Re: [Cooker] Another wrong dependency ?

2003-07-03 Thread Michael Scherer
On Friday 04 July 2003 01:30, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On 04 Jul 2003 00:36:48 +0200
>
> Teletchéa Stéphane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] stephane]# urpmi imagemagic
> > Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être
> > installés (26 Mo):
> > ImageMagick-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
> > abiword-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
> > abiword-plugin-imagemagick-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
> > libMagick5.5.4-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
> > libwmf-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
> > libwmf0.2_7-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
> > Est-ce correct ? (O/n)
>
> There is no dependency problem.
>
> Use urpmi ImageMagick.
>
> Calling it as imagemagic results in urpmi selecting all matches,
> ImageMagic and abiword-plugin-imagemagick.
> abiword-plugin-imagemagick would then of course require abiword and
> its associated depends.

Then this is a urpmi bug.

If i do urpmi mysql, it doesn't install ( or at least , it shouldn't ) 
each package with mysql, such as php-mysql.
It install mysql, and the real name is MySQL.

I always thinked that urpmi was case insensitive, and that it was a good 
thing, so, clearly,this is is a bug. It should only install 
ImageMagick. And, if more than one package match a name( such as vim ), 
it should provides a selection.

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Bret Baptist ha scritto:
The above information was not correct, from the amavisd.conf:

# Here is an overall picture (sequence of events) of how pieces fit together
# (only virus controls are shown, spam controls work the same way):
#
#   bypass_virus_checks? ==> PASS
#   no viruses?   ==> PASS
#   log virus if $log_templ is nonempty
#   quarantineif $virus_quarantine_to is nonempty
#   notify admin  if $virus_admin (lookup) nonempty
#   notify recips if $warnvirusrecip and (recipient is local or $warn_offsite)
#   add address extensions if adding extensions is enabled and virus will pass
#   send non-delivery notifications
#  to sender if DSN needed (BOUNCE) or ($warn_virus_sender and D_PASS)
#   virus_lovers or final_destiny==D_PASS  ==> PASS
#   DISCARD (2xx) or REJECT (5xx) (depending on final_*_destiny)
It will only send to non-local if $warn_offsite is set to on.
So $warn_offsite=undef; ?




regardless of local user or not. So the easyest way is to use different
mailserver for sending out and receiving in.
Why a different mail server? One needs that the mail Sent containing
a virus should be blocked, but the LAN sender should be warned that
he was sending a virus...; Indeed this should be done in a
more powerful way because generally if the Sender takes a virus
(like SoBig,BugBear, etc.), generally it would fake addresses
even if coming from LAN. So an effective way for doing this would
a double checking:


For the spoofed viruses a map can be set up to not warn at all:
Yes, but the sending user of the LAN won't know he has taken a virus...

# Treat envelope sender address as unreliable and don't send sender
# notification / bounces if name(s) of detected virus(es) match the list.
# Note that virus names are supplied by external virus scanner(s) and are
# not standardized, so virus names may need to be adjusted.
# See README.lookups for syntax.
#
That's suppose there is a list of virus faking address, but
is "$warn_offsite" applying also to this?
$viruses_that_fake_sender_re = new_RE(
  qr'nimda|hybris|klez|bugbear|yaha|braid|sobig|palyh|inor|fizzer'i );
I don't understand. IMHO there is no need to warn the sender if external, as the
sending address can be always forged (and maybe this also would
unveil attacker your kind of virus scanner and maybe whether it's
not updated or not able to maybe recognize a certain virus). IMHO the needing
could be to warn the sending user only if it's in the locale
address and he is sending trough the MTA. But there is no way to know
the REAL address without a MAP of mail<=>IP? suppose there are two users: "foo"
and "bar" at mydomain.com: "foo" has virus and send it trough the postfix
SMTP of "mydomain.com" as if mail was appearing "From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>".
Now if I understand right, you are saying that amavis-new understands that
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is a FAKE address and then doesn't send any bounced "warning"
message. What I'm asking here is: "what to do if I want that <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
will receive a mail from the SMTP that he was trying to sending a VIRUS mail with
address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

- let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time
collect all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes
learning.
Tis is done by default if you configure final_spam_destiny as D_PASS.
every spam mail over the sa_kill_level_deflt value will be copied to
/var/spool/amavisd/viruses
Yes, but for viruses the Warning messages doesn't contain the
ID of the file, like it happens in amavis-0.3.12.


I am not entirely sure what you mean, this is a virus message from 
amavisd-new:

--
A virus (PE_Magistr.B.Dam) was found.
Scanner detecting a virus: Trophie

The mail originated from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at:
   pppdslh205.mpls.uswest.net (HELO Bed) (216.160.26.205)
The message WILL NOT BE delivered to:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   550 5.7.1 Message content rejected, id=20707-06 - VIRUS: PE_Magistr.B.Dam
Virus scanner output:
   1:PE_Magistr.B.Dam
The message has been quarantined as:
   /var/lib/amavis/virusmails/virus-20030703-093755-20707-06
Good. What I wasn't obtaining was this last line..., I got, trying the EICAR test:

=
VIRUS ALERT
Our content checker found
virus: EICAR_Test_File
in your email to the following recipient:
-> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please check your system for viruses,
or ask your system administrator to do so.
Delivery of the email was stopped!
---
For your reference, here are headers from your email:
==
Bye.
Giuseppe.





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.2mdk-1-1mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Sefer Tov
Definitely same here.

Kernel 2421-2 dies with panic during boot, shortly after scanning the IDE 
devices, and the partial stack trace I get on my screen has some inode 
functions in it, which makes me believe it's either a problem in the ext2 
layer or other lower level ide layers.

All previous versions of the kernel worked just fine, so it must be a change 
done here which causes it to fail (maybe omitting the stack frame pointer 
wasn't a good idea, perhaps some processes depend on it).

Is there a way I could collect the stack trace after I hard-boot my computer 
when it panics (it happened to me on my Linux laptop)? So I could send you 
guys some more clues into this.

Thanks,
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[Cooker] [Bug 3196] [kdebase-servicemenu] Problems with convertpstopdf.desktop and compress-zip.desktop

2003-07-03 Thread [arnld23]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3196


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Right clicking on a postscript file gives the message: 
The desktop entry file  
/usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/convertpstopdf.desktop 
has an invalid menu entry convertpstopdf 
 
The problem is that Actions=convertpstopdf doesn't match 
[Desktop Action convertpdftops]. 
 
Also,  
Exec=ps2pdf %f.ps %f.pdf  
should read  
Exec=ps2pdf %f %f.pdf.  
Otherwise, it's looking for a file that probably doesn't exist (e.g., 
myfile.ps.ps instead of myfile.ps). 
 
I'm also having trouble with 
/usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/compress-zip.desktop. 
The problem is that zip expects an archive name as the first 
argument, to which it then appends .zip. Giving it a url (e.g., 
'./Documents' as opposed to Documents) causes it to fail with: 
zip error: Zip file structure invalid (./.Documents) 
 
Changing  
Exec=zip -r %u %u  
to  
Exec=zip -r %u.zip %u  
solves the problem. 
 
Note: I'm using cooker SRPMs rebuilt for 9.0, but that shouldn't 
affect the validity of the report.



Re: [Cooker] kernel rebuild

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Varaine
2.4.21-2 and gcc3.3

select P4 as processor cause an automatic reboot
select i586 cause a kernel panic...

standard 2.4.21-2  does work fine (but I need ot recompile for ACPI
issues at least)

well I am back to my 2.4.21-16mdkcustom (old numbering way)

and the new alpha release of VMWare do compile well with gcc3.3 despite
the warning message

Bernard

Thomas Backlund wrote:
> From: "Bernard Varaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>>Try to recompile kernel last night,
>>changed the processor type to P4
>>
> 
> 
> Wich kernel version?
> Wich gcc version?
> 
> 
>>run the usual dep bzImage etc
>>
> 
> 
> Did you also do mrproper?
> 
> 
>>but kernel doesn't boot properly.. start the process and then reboot tht
>>computer.
>>
>>changed back to i586 i686 as default and works fine..
>>
>>I recompiled a kernel from Gentoo on the same computer recently and was
>>fine with the P4 processor setting.
>>
>>
>>the box is a Compaq Presario 2800 with a Mobile P4 2ghz
>>
>>ANy idea or am I missing something somewhere ?
>>
>>BErnard
>>
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Jul 03 13:39 +0200, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote:
> - let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time 
> collect
> all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes learning.

Collecting SA mails to a bayesian system is beyond stupid, as far as I
can tell.  You go through all the computational expense of bayesian to
essentially duplicate the SpamAssassin rules..

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Re: [Cooker] Another wrong dependency ?

2003-07-03 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le ven 04/07/2003 à 01:30, Charles A Edwards a écrit :
> On 04 Jul 2003 00:36:48 +0200
> Teletchéa Stéphane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] stephane]# urpmi imagemagic
> > Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être
> > installés (26 Mo):
> > ImageMagick-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
> > abiword-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
> > abiword-plugin-imagemagick-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
> > libMagick5.5.4-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
> > libwmf-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
> > libwmf0.2_7-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
> > Est-ce correct ? (O/n) 
>  
> 
> There is no dependency problem.
> 
> Use urpmi ImageMagick.
> 
> Calling it as imagemagic results in urpmi selecting all matches,
> ImageMagic and abiword-plugin-imagemagick.
> abiword-plugin-imagemagick would then of course require abiword and its
> associated depends.
> 
> BTW, don't know what mirror you are using but current version is 
> ImageMagick-5.5.4.4-8plf 
> 
> 
> 
> Charles 

OK, i'll close my mouth next time. Thank you for the answer BTW.
Stef

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Re: [Cooker] Congratulations

2003-07-03 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 03 July 2003 03:03 pm, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
> Yes, I do work for HP on the deskjet linux team. I am the inkjet support
> person for HP. Trying to do lasers too.
>
> Anyway, also wanted to mention... Not sure if this is confidential or not
> but... Word inside for HP/Compaq laptops is the majority of the platforms
> will be Linux certified, but will not be preinstalled.
>
This is fantastic news.  I will be in the market for a laptop shortly and I 
have been leaning towards Dell because there seems to be some success with 
them, but if HP/Compaq laptops will be Linux certified, that means there is a 
good chance there will be no ACPI problems and things liek modems and nics 
should work easily.  I will keep my eye out and if this is true, I will be 
the first in line to buy one.

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Re: [Cooker] Another wrong dependency ?

2003-07-03 Thread Charles A Edwards
On 04 Jul 2003 00:36:48 +0200
Teletchéa Stéphane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] stephane]# urpmi imagemagic
> Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être
> installés (26 Mo):
> ImageMagick-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
> abiword-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
> abiword-plugin-imagemagick-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
> libMagick5.5.4-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
> libwmf-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
> libwmf0.2_7-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
> Est-ce correct ? (O/n) 
 

There is no dependency problem.

Use urpmi ImageMagick.

Calling it as imagemagic results in urpmi selecting all matches,
ImageMagic and abiword-plugin-imagemagick.
abiword-plugin-imagemagick would then of course require abiword and its
associated depends.

BTW, don't know what mirror you are using but current version is 
ImageMagick-5.5.4.4-8plf 



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Re: [Cooker] E16.6 or E17

2003-07-03 Thread phriedrich
> ps. some rpms for e17 (which don't work for me) 
> https://people.mandrakesoft.com/~lenny/e/

Ok I downloaded the all the rpms so far and installed them...but i doesn't work.
efsd says he couldn't connect to fam, but I believe fam is working...I'm confused!

Friedrich





Re: [Cooker] Fast user switching in KDE

2003-07-03 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 03 July 2003 12:20 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> We have discussed this feature before, and it seems it is trivial to get
> this to work, since kdm seems to support it if the xdm config files are
> right.
>
> Credit for finding this goes to Texstar, who posted it here:
> 
http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=1691&forum=18
>
> Here is the detail, taken from the post and some replies:

This is really awesome.  Way to go Tex.

Does this raise the possibility of two users simultaneously using a machine.  
Imagie this, a dual-head machine with two usb mice and two usb keybaords.  My 
wife and I are happily sitting in the same room both using the same computer.

These incredibly fast macines have way more than enough power for many 
standard home users, wouldn't this be cool.

I seem to recall somebody hacking a solution like this into XFree 4.0.x

...

Okay I'm back from googling and it is even better than I thought.  Svetoslav 
Slavtchev just wrote a HOWTO on this very topic.  Here is the link: 

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/

This would be an absolutely fantastic feature to have available.  For small 
environments, one could skip the additional machine to be a remote X-server, 
and just do a local multiuser.
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Re: [Cooker] PLEASE address build/install problems

2003-07-03 Thread Frank Griffin
Warly wrote:

Yes and I replied that I tried to fix it.

Have you tried again?

 

The bug you replied about was a different one, where MakeCD would 
immediately error out without creating images.  That one was fixed, and 
I closed the Bugzilla report for it.

4057 is different, in that the ISO images are built without error, but 
either stuff is missing or the dependencies are screwed, because the 
install hangs or loops at "looking for available packages".  I have 
re-tried this every day or every other day since you fixed the first bug.

Thanks,
Frank



[Cooker] Thanks, Cory and Hewlett Packard

2003-07-03 Thread Leon Brooks
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:49, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
>   I just wanted to say congrats on getting HP to distribute MDK 9.1 on
> new systems we're selling. Now we have the best distro on the best
> hardware... (j/k on the second part).

Thanks, Cory, this sort of encouragement is rare which of course makes 
it valuable.

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Luca Berra
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:39:41PM +0200, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote:
http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/amavisd-new-0.20030616-1mdk.src.rpm
:!wget ...

But, before posting to contrib, I'm currently trying to find how to modify 
amavisd.conf so that:

- local "recipient" users is warned about receiving virus mail (with virus 
ID)
- sender is warned about sending a mail with virus, but only if sender
is relaying from LAN (it's a nonsense to warn non-local sender because
99.9% in case of virus, the sender is fake).
bret answered those two, i'd like the list of worm that fake sender to
be loaded from an external file to make it easy to modify for lusers.
- let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time 
collect
all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes learning.

well you get this free with spamassassin
see auto_learn, auto_learn_threshold_nonspam, auto_learn_threshold_spam
in Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf (it is enabled by default)
Any quick hints welcome...

Furthermore I still need to add a %post script so to set $mydomain in 
/etc/amavisd.conf.
i'd also like for the rpm to provide a modified master.cf with all
goodies described in README.postfix (the part below the ascii art
diagram i mean)
regards,
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Luca Berra
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:25:25AM +0200, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
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Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer:
> So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat
> I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few
> messages per hour. But else, the overhead is to much. A daemon
> talking smtp is prefered (and that is waht amavisd-new does).
But, IIRC, amavis forks a new spamassasin in the backgroung for each
message, so, this is almost the same ?
No, amavisd-new runs as a daemon and is written in perl. It loads the 
Mail::Spamassassin perl module at starttime. No external process is started 
(besides the virus scanner not speaking smtp).

well,
this is not actually true if $bypass_decode_parts is not defined it does
run external programs to extract the mime content and pass it to the
antivirus.
I believe the heavier thing is that it runs file(1) on each part to
determine the filetype, but i believe this can be easily replaced by
File::MMagic perl module (if i am able to test it successfully will
forward a patch upstream)
Regards,
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Re: [Cooker] E16.6 or E17

2003-07-03 Thread phriedrich
> e17 is as different from e16 as kde1 was from kde2, maybe even more.
I knew, I allready tried it on an test-system.

> It would surprise me if you can install them next to eachother
So I will again try it on my second system...
 
> ps. some rpms for e17 (which don't work for me) 
> https://people.mandrakesoft.com/~lenny/e/
I will do some experiments within the next days...thanks for the link> 


Are there allready some themes avalible for E17?

Friedrich




Re: [Cooker] compilation error (orbitcpp)

2003-07-03 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone know what this error means?
> This should only depend on libORBit2 and gcc, so one of them must be at fault.
> Any ideas?

welcome to the wonderful stl world ...




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] arts-1.1.2-4mdk

2003-07-03 Thread David Walser
Charles A Edwards wrote:
> Rpm bug is still with us. 
> Installation of arts causes kdemultimedia to be removed.

Why?




[Cooker] Another wrong dependency ?

2003-07-03 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] stephane]# urpmi imagemagic
Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être
installés (26 Mo):
ImageMagick-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
abiword-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
abiword-plugin-imagemagick-1.0.4-5mdk.i586
libMagick5.5.4-5.5.4.4-7plf.i586
libwmf-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
libwmf0.2_7-0.2.8-2mdk.i586
Est-ce correct ? (O/n) 

No, it is not, but why should i need abiword for this purpose ?

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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] arts-1.1.2-4mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu,  3 Jul 2003 16:15:18 +0200 (CEST)
Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Name: arts Relocations: (not
> relocateable) Version : 1.1.2 Vendor:
> MandrakeSoft Release : 4mdk  Build Date:
> Wed Jul  2 21:21:30 2003 Install date: (not installed)  
> Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group   : Graphical desktop/KDE   
>  Source RPM: (none)
> Size: 1113771  License: ARTISTIC BSD
> GPL_V2 LGPL_V2 QPL_V1.0 Packager: Mandrake Linux KDE Team
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.arts-project.org


Rpm bug is still with us. 
Installation of arts causes kdemultimedia to be removed.


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Re: [Cooker] Making DVD's of cooker?

2003-07-03 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:13:38AM +0200, Warly wrote:
> Dalton Calford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On July 1, 2003 06:35 am, Warly wrote:
> >> Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Is making a cooker DVD as easy as using the cd-rom image to make the DVD
> >> > bootable and just straight putting the i586 contents on the DVD (with the
> >> > RPMS2, or course)?
> >> >
> >> > Previously I've used mkcd, and just got a DVD recorder.
> >>
> >> with mkcd just add --disksize 4.3g
> >
> > Can you post a link to the full steps or post the complete command line?
> > I have a full mirror of cooker (updated daily) and I have tried the gendistrib 
> > and mkcd commands in /misc to try to generate a dvd version of cooker but it 
> > always errors out.
> >
> > I am following the steps from mandrakes cooker page, are there any newer 
> > how-to's or README's for this?
> 
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MakeCD
> 

I'm trying to build my own cooker CDs on a 9.1 box. This MakeCD procedure
doesn't work. 

I get:

./MakeCD --discsize 700m -a

ERROR auto: 1

usage
auto... 
Auto mode configuration

options:

--noisolinux
Do not use a isolinux boot
-c, --cd 
Max number of discs
-h, --help
Display help, eg. auto -h option_X suboption_Y.
-s, --sources
Create SRPMS discs too
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Is there an easy way to get this to work on 9.1 or should I try "upgrading"
from a 9.0/9.1 install using urpmi?

I'd like to try the CD install method, since that doesn't work for my laptop
with 9.1. And I don't have a floppy for my LT.

Cheers

Simon



[Cooker] pcre doesn't have UTF-8 support?

2003-07-03 Thread Steve Fox
I'm trying to build regexxer  and it's
spewing errors. Anyone know if pcre can be rebuild with UTF-8 support
for cooker please?

checking for pcre-config... /usr/bin/pcre-config
checking for libpcre >= 3.4... yes
checking PCRE_CFLAGS...
checking PCRE_LIBS... -L/usr/lib -lpcre
checking whether libpcre was compiled with UTF-8 support... no
configure: error:
*** Sorry, the PCRE library installed on your system doesn't support
*** UTF-8 encoding.  Please install a libpcre package which includes
*** support for UTF-8.  Note that if you compile libpcre from source
*** you have to pass the --enable-utf8 flag to its ./configure script.

Using these packages:
libpcre0-4.3-2mdk
libpcre0-devel-4.3-2mdk
pcre-4.3-2mdk

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Re: [Cooker] Fast user switching in KDE

2003-07-03 Thread Blindauer Emmanuel
Le Jeudi 3 Juillet 2003 18:20, Buchan Milne a écrit :
> > The only thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is if another
> > user logs in on top of you, the arts server doesnt want to start for
> > that person.
>
> ranger (me)
>
> > A cleaner method may be to do something like this ... in
>
> /etc/security/console/perms, change:
> > 0600 0600 root.audio
> > to
> > 0660 0660 root.audio
> >
> > Add the relevant users to the audio group, and then try logging
>
> everyone out, and back in again.
>
> (this works for me, KDE does not complain any more, but my cooker box
> has no speakers, so I am not sure if sound actually works)

Newest driver can be used by several program at the same time.
I have xmms playing, while playing Enemy terroirory, and OSS application 
can play sound too. but arts fails to  play sound. Does arts lock the 
device in exclusive mode ?
If this is disabled, users sohould be able to use their own artsd daemon at 
the same time 

Emmanuel




Re: [Cooker] Fast user switching in KDE

2003-07-03 Thread andre
Does that work on all videocards. Couldn't the i810 only handle 1 X screen or 
has that been fixed?




[Cooker] [Bug 2712] [gnome-applets] Gnome Keyboard Layout Selector disable my numeric keypad

2003-07-03 Thread [oliv.blin]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2712





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-07 22:35 ---
this bug is still valid

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When I change my keyboard layout with the Gnome Keyboard Layout Selector applet
(gkb), I can't use anymore my numeric keypad, I can't even lock or unlock the
numlock.
This happens whatever keyboard layout I choose.
If I come back to Gnome default keyboard layout, I can't still use my numeric
keypad.

Olivier



Re: [Cooker] E16.6 or E17

2003-07-03 Thread andre
On Thursday 03 July 2003 19:19, phriedrich wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> does anybody out there has any experiences with enlightenment 16.6 or 17 on
> mandrake 9.1? Or does someone know some special tips?
>
> Because I use Enlightenment always I don't want to replace my existing one
> (16.5) with one that doesn't work...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Friedrich Preuss
e17 is as different from e16 as kde1 was from kde2, maybe even more. It would 
surprise me if you can install them next to eachother

ps. some rpms for e17 (which don't work for me) 
https://people.mandrakesoft.com/~lenny/e/




[Cooker] compilation error (orbitcpp)

2003-07-03 Thread Austin
Anyone know what this error means?
This should only depend on libORBit2 and gcc, so one of them must be at fault.
Any ideas?
i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I. -I../.. -
DORBIT2=1 -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-
2.0/include -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=i586 -mcpu=pentiumpro -g -c 
orbitcpp_poa.cc  -fPIC -DPIC -DPIC -o orbitcpp_poa.o
../../orbitcpp/orb-cpp/orbitcpp_simple_seq.h: In instantiation of `_orbitcpp::
SimpleUnboundedSeq<_orbitcpp::seq_traits::CORBA_octet_>':
orbitcpp_poa.cc:152:   instantiated from here
../../orbitcpp/orb-cpp/orbitcpp_simple_seq.h:48: error: `typedef ULong 
_orbitcpp::SimpleSeqBase<_orbitcpp::seq_traits::CORBA_octet_>::size_t' is 
private

etc. etc. etc.

Thanks,
Austin
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Re: [Cooker] kernel rebuild

2003-07-03 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: "Bernard Varaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Try to recompile kernel last night,
> changed the processor type to P4
> 

Wich kernel version?
Wich gcc version?

> run the usual dep bzImage etc
> 

Did you also do mrproper?

> 
> but kernel doesn't boot properly.. start the process and then reboot tht
> computer.
> 
> changed back to i586 i686 as default and works fine..
> 
> I recompiled a kernel from Gentoo on the same computer recently and was
> fine with the P4 processor setting.
> 
> 
> the box is a Compaq Presario 2800 with a Mobile P4 2ghz
> 
> ANy idea or am I missing something somewhere ?
> 
> BErnard
> 

Regards

Thomas




RE: [Cooker] Congratulations

2003-07-03 Thread MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1)
Yes, I do work for HP on the deskjet linux team. I am the inkjet support
person for HP. Trying to do lasers too.

Anyway, also wanted to mention... Not sure if this is confidential or not
but... Word inside for HP/Compaq laptops is the majority of the platforms
will be Linux certified, but will not be preinstalled.

Cory


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:49 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [Cooker] Congratulations


Hi Guys,
I just wanted to say congrats on getting HP to distribute MDK 9.1 on
new systems we're selling. Now we have the best distro on the best
hardware... (j/k on the second part). Anyway, keep up the good work and I'll
continue support for HP inkjets. Go Till!

Cory Meisch
CPEA Test Technician
Hewlett-Packard Vancouver
(360) 212-7009
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[Cooker] [Bug 2642] [XFree86] keyboard (win, menu keys)

2003-07-03 Thread [wamb4060]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2642





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-07 21:07 ---
yes the problem is still valid..I'm using the Belgium layout. 

I will check it with xev, but what is weird: In kde the right window-key doesn't
work, while in Gnome, the left-window-key doesn't work. So I suppose it's
recieved by X11, but even if I try to assign the right-win-key in kde, it won't
show up
I haven't tried yet in Gnome.

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In Mandrake9.0 all the keys on my keyboard worked immediatley, including the
win- and menu-key. Now the win- and menukey don't work (the rest works).
They have a meaning, I checked.

I jus t counted:):My keyboard has 109 keys. It is a normal win-keyboard. Not a
special brand as far as I know. I choose the generic 105-driver...Maybe thi is
the problem, but in Mandrake 9.0 it was ok.

Some "extra"-keys on my keyboard that never worked(also not on windows...) are:
Power, Wleep, Wake Up, (not suer of this one:)SysRg. It is an azerty-keyboard.



[Cooker] [Bug 2642] [XFree86] keyboard (win, menu keys)

2003-07-03 Thread [pablo]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2642


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

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Product|Hardware|XFree86
Summary|keyboard|keyboard (win, menu keys)
Version|9.2-0.3mdk  |4.3-4mdk




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-07 20:56 ---
Is this problem still valid?

If yes, please run "xev" (it comes with X11R6-contrib package) and tell us
what is reported for those keys; and also the keyboard map you are using.

Run xev from an xterm (otherwise you won't see the messages).

here is an exemple of what the ouput looks like when pressing the left windows
key:

KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x37, subw 0x0, time 84005365, (58,106), root:(64,132),
state 0x10, keycode 115 (keysym 0xffca, F13), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  ""
 
what is interesting is the keysym sent (here, "F13").
in my case right windows sends "Multi_key" and right menu sends "Menu"

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They have a meaning, I checked.

I jus t counted:):My keyboard has 109 keys. It is a normal win-keyboard. Not a
special brand as far as I know. I choose the generic 105-driver...Maybe thi is
the problem, but in Mandrake 9.0 it was ok.

Some "extra"-keys on my keyboard that never worked(also not on windows...) are:
Power, Wleep, Wake Up, (not suer of this one:)SysRg. It is an azerty-keyboard.



Re: [Cooker] Congratulations

2003-07-03 Thread Jaroslaw Zachwieja
On czw 3. lipca 2003 17:49, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>   I just wanted to say congrats on getting HP to distribute MDK 9.1 on
> new systems we're selling. 

Me too [TM]

By the way, wasn't HP/COMPAQ selling some Alpha based workstations? *grin*

I know this might be silly, but well, you know Alpha port is alive and 
kicking ;)))

Back on the subject, I've already spread the good news around and people 
seem to open their eyes to Mandrake. Even thou they've been running it on 
their workstations for the past 6 months and it behaved flawlessly 
(almost:), there was still a bit of disbelief for Mandrake being pro 
enough. Now I have a killer argument in my hand ;) HP can't be wrong. 
Well, not that much.

Last 2 days have been really nice for every Mandrake enthusiast ;)

Anyway, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations!
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[Cooker] kernel rebuild

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Varaine
Try to recompile kernel last night,
changed the processor type to P4

run the usual dep bzImage etc


but kernel doesn't boot properly.. start the process and then reboot tht
computer.

changed back to i586 i686 as default and works fine..

I recompiled a kernel from Gentoo on the same computer recently and was
fine with the P4 processor setting.


the box is a Compaq Presario 2800 with a Mobile P4 2ghz

ANy idea or am I missing something somewhere ?

BErnard

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[Cooker] The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded...

2003-07-03 Thread Bjørn
The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
gaim-0.64-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied perl-base == 5.8.0)
gimp-1.2.5-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libgimp1.2 == 1.2.5-2mdk)
gimp-perl-1.2.5-2mdk.i586 (due to missing perl(Gimp::basewidget), due to 
unsatisfied gimp == 1.2.5-2mdk, due to missing perl(Gimp::Feature), due to 
missing perl(Gimp::Fu), due to missing perl(Gimp::Data), due to missing 
perl(Gimp::UI), due to missing perl(Gimp::Net), due to missing 
perl(Gimp::Util), due to missing perl(Gimp))
mozilla-1.4-0.beta.1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libnss3 == 1.4-0.beta.1mdk)
mozilla-mail-1.4-0.beta.1mdk.i586 (due to missing libmsgbaseutil.so) (y/N)


Bjørn Jørgensen




Re: [Cooker] Congratulations

2003-07-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Guys,
>   I just wanted to say congrats on getting HP to distribute MDK 9.1 on
> new systems we're selling. Now we have the best distro on the best
> hardware... (j/k on the second part). Anyway, keep up the good work and I'll
> continue support for HP inkjets. Go Till!

Thanks :).

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Re: [Cooker] Congratulations

2003-07-03 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 12:49, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>   I just wanted to say congrats on getting HP to distribute MDK 9.1 on
> new systems we're selling. Now we have the best distro on the best
> hardware... (j/k on the second part). Anyway, keep up the good work and I'll
> continue support for HP inkjets. Go Till!
> 
> Cory Meisch
> CPEA Test Technician
> Hewlett-Packard Vancouver
> (360) 212-7009
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Seconded.  Cory, you have a rather personal involvement with this do you
not, since you actually *work* for HP? :)

This is a good thing to have happened, especially in light of Wal-Mart
having gone traitor and signed up SUSE.  

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Re: [Cooker] PLEASE address build/install problems

2003-07-03 Thread Warly
Frank Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been building and testing cooker systems for over a year,
> primarily by creating ISOs with MakeCD and burning them.  I've tried
> harddrive and network installs, but they don't work for me (as
> documented in bug 3295).
>
> Recently, as documented in bug 4057, burning ISOs stopped working as
> well, and a previous comment in this list drew a response that
> indicates that at least one other person is having the same problem
> with MakeCD.

Yes and I replied that I tried to fix it.

Have you tried again?

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[Cooker] [Bug 4137] [initscripts] New: failure message on success of ifplugd command

2003-07-03 Thread [oliv.blin]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4137

   Product: initscripts
 Component: initscripts
   Summary: failure message on success of ifplugd command
   Product: initscripts
   Version: 7.06-9mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: initscripts
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


There may be a bug in /etc/init.d/network, lines 144-145 :
IFPLUGD_ARGS="${IFPLUGD_ARGS=-w -b}"
action "Bringing up interface %s: " $i /sbin/ifplugd IFPLUGD_ARGS 
-i $DEVICE

ifplugd is called with -w option, which makes it return 1 on success.

>From the man :
   -w | --wait-on-fork

   When  daemonizing,  wait  until the background process finished
  with the initial link beat detection. When this is enabled,  the
  parent process will return the link status on exit. 1 means link
  beat detected, 2 stands for link beat not  detected,  everything
  else is an error.

So on success, the result of initlog -c "/sbin/ifplugd IFPLUGD_ARGS -i $DEVICE"
is 1, and a failure message is diplsayed.

I haven't found any proper way to make initlog return 0 on success of ifplugd
with -w option.

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Re: [Cooker] Install error - turba-1.2-1mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Pixel
Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > # rpm -q --whatprovides 'perl(Getopt::Std)'
> > no package provides perl(Getopt::Std)
> > 
> > # locate Getopt
> > /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Long.3pm.bz2
> > /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Std.3pm.bz2
> > /usr/share/pear/.registry/Console_Getopt.reg
> > /usr/share/pear/Console/Getopt.php
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long.pm
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Std.pm
> > 
> >   Any ideas why this is happening?

try "rpm -q perl", i believe you don't have the latest release.

> 
> Another flaw in the autorequires/autoprovides...

nope ;p



Re: [Cooker] Network sharing tool (nfs & smb) by right click bug

2003-07-03 Thread Pixel
"Cosmic Flo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> if you delete a shared folder, the config files are not updated (the entry in
> config file isn't deleted).

fill 2 bug reports, one for nautilus, one for kdebase



[Cooker] Re: Fast user switching in KDE

2003-07-03 Thread David Walser
Buchan Milne wrote:
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> We have discussed this feature before, and it seems it is trivial to get
> this to work, since kdm seems to support it if the xdm config files are
> right.
> 
> Credit for finding this goes to Texstar, who posted it here:
> http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=1691&forum=18
> 
> Here is the detail, taken from the post and some replies:

Are you all still having that Reply-To-All e-mail discussion?  I seem to have dropped 
out of that.

> > Texstar:
>> KDE has the ability to start a new Xsession from the KDE menu. Here is
> how to set it up.
>>
>> Edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers with your favorite text editor in su (root)
>> mode and add the following lines at the bottom of the file:
>>
>> :1 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt8
>> :2 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :2 vt9
>> :3 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :3 vt10
>> :4 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :4 vt11
>> :5 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :5 vt12
>>
>> Save the file, exit out of kde and restart your Xserver. Log back in
>> and in the kde menu you should see start new session.
>>
>>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/screenshots/newsession.jpg
>>
>> The only thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is if another
>> user logs in on top of you, the arts server doesnt want to start for
>> that person.
> 
> 
> ranger (me)
>> A cleaner method may be to do something like this ... in
> /etc/security/console/perms, change:
>> 0600 0600 root.audio
>> to
>> 0660 0660 root.audio
>>
>> Add the relevant users to the audio group, and then try logging
> everyone out, and back in again.
> 
> (this works for me, KDE does not complain any more, but my cooker box
> has no speakers, so I am not sure if sound actually works)
> 
> ranger (me)
>> It gets better ...
>>
>> Lock your screen from within KDE, and now instead of the dialog just
>> showing a password textbox, it also has a button for starting a new
>> session.
>>
>> How cool is that?
>>
>> Let me see if I can make a screenshot ...
>>
>> ... done:
>>
>>
> http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/kdm-newsession-screensaver_s.png
> 
> 
> 
> So, what are the consequences of doing this (besides losing a VT to
> something else?). Would it be possible to have at least one reserve
> server set up by default? It might be an idea to have XFdrake or drakdm
> or whatever handle this, and be able to adjust the number of reserves,
> otherwise if it's not an issue, why not ship with about 4 working reserves?
> 
> If a new X server is started up, and not used in a minute or so, kdm
> closes it down.
> 
> BTW, AFAIK SuSE ships with the "new session" working, and I think adds
> all users to audio group by default (among others) and allows audio
> group to write to sound devices.
> 
> Regards
> Buchan

This would be a cool feature to have.

The main problem with SuSE's implementation is, once you've started a new session, 
when you're done with it and log out, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't kill it, it respawns. 
 Having that work to kill, as well as a button on KDM for those who don't know about 
CAB, would be good.

Also, with true multiuser systems, at least on 8.1, pam_console doesn't work reliably 
for sound anyway because of arts, so I've made the same change you mentioned above.  
It seems to work ok most of the time on 9.1.  There are unfortunately some security 
implications of letting the whole audio group have full access all the time.  Also, 
having multiple arts processes running is less than ideal (one is bad enough!).  Maybe 
there's some way we could get a sort of system-wide artsd that any locally logged in 
users could connect to?




[Cooker] E16.6 or E17

2003-07-03 Thread phriedrich
Hallo,

does anybody out there has any experiences with enlightenment 16.6 or 17 on mandrake 
9.1?
Or does someone know some special tips?

Because I use Enlightenment always I don't want to replace my existing one (16.5) with 
one
that doesn't work...

Thanks,

Friedrich Preuss




[Cooker] Congratulations

2003-07-03 Thread MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1)
Hi Guys,
I just wanted to say congrats on getting HP to distribute MDK 9.1 on
new systems we're selling. Now we have the best distro on the best
hardware... (j/k on the second part). Anyway, keep up the good work and I'll
continue support for HP inkjets. Go Till!

Cory Meisch
CPEA Test Technician
Hewlett-Packard Vancouver
(360) 212-7009
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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] crossfire-server-1.5.0-1mdk

2003-07-03 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
On 2003-07-03(Thu) 17:15:59 +0200, Austin Acton wrote:
> Name: crossfire-server Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 1.5.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Thu Jul  3 16:48:43 2003
> --=-=-=
> * Thu Jul 03 2003 Austin Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.5.0-1mdk
> 
> - prereq rpm-helper

Austin, actually it's intentional that I don't add it; this dependency
was not necessary. rpm already prereq'ed rpm-helper, that means
basesystem has already included it.

Actually I'd suggest flepied to remove this warning in rpmlint...

Abel


> - from Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   - 1.5.0
>   - Update init script (use gprintf)
>   - Update patch0
>   - Rename this package to crossfire-server to avoid confusion
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[Cooker] [Bug 4120] [mandrake-mime] No default handler for .ZIP files

2003-07-03 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4120


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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  Component|program |program
Product|nautilus|mandrake-mime
 Resolution||FIXED
Version|2.3.4-2mdk  |0.3-1mdk




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Good catch.. it was in fact a bug in mandrake-mime package..

Fixed with mandrake-mime-0.4-1mdk

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.jar files, but if you double-click on a .zip file, it tells you there is no
viewer associated with the file type.



Re: [Cooker] [Bug 2995] [xsane] Help docs default to using netscape

2003-07-03 Thread Daouda LO
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> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2995

@resolution=fixed

fixed in latest xsane.
You have to set your $$BROWSER (this is usually set by the system)
to one of your installed browser (mozilla, galeon, konquero...)


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[Cooker] [Bug 2105] [kernel] supermount allows mounting same dir twice in mdk-9.1rc1/9.1rc2

2003-07-03 Thread [ndeb]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2105





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This bug will stay valid until a kernel update fixes it. 

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First, I umount /mnt/cdrom. Then I mount /mnt/cdrom TWICE and the system indicates no 
error !! The "Used by" field of lsmod for supermount also goes up by one everytime I 
mount 
thus showing that supermount is aware of it. 
How can a cd devicd be mounted more than once to the same mount point ? This is very 
ridiculous.



[Cooker] Fast user switching in KDE

2003-07-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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We have discussed this feature before, and it seems it is trivial to get
this to work, since kdm seems to support it if the xdm config files are
right.

Credit for finding this goes to Texstar, who posted it here:
http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=1691&forum=18

Here is the detail, taken from the post and some replies:


Texstar:
> KDE has the ability to start a new Xsession from the KDE menu. Here is
how to set it up.
>
> Edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers with your favorite text editor in su (root)
> mode and add the following lines at the bottom of the file:
>
> :1 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt8
> :2 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :2 vt9
> :3 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :3 vt10
> :4 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :4 vt11
> :5 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :5 vt12
>
> Save the file, exit out of kde and restart your Xserver. Log back in
> and in the kde menu you should see start new session.
>
>
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/screenshots/newsession.jpg
>
> The only thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is if another
> user logs in on top of you, the arts server doesnt want to start for
> that person.


ranger (me)
> A cleaner method may be to do something like this ... in
/etc/security/console/perms, change:
> 0600 0600 root.audio
> to
> 0660 0660 root.audio
>
> Add the relevant users to the audio group, and then try logging
everyone out, and back in again.

(this works for me, KDE does not complain any more, but my cooker box
has no speakers, so I am not sure if sound actually works)

ranger (me)
> It gets better ...
>
> Lock your screen from within KDE, and now instead of the dialog just
> showing a password textbox, it also has a button for starting a new
> session.
>
> How cool is that?
>
> Let me see if I can make a screenshot ...
>
> ... done:
>
>
http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/kdm-newsession-screensaver_s.png



So, what are the consequences of doing this (besides losing a VT to
something else?). Would it be possible to have at least one reserve
server set up by default? It might be an idea to have XFdrake or drakdm
or whatever handle this, and be able to adjust the number of reserves,
otherwise if it's not an issue, why not ship with about 4 working reserves?

If a new X server is started up, and not used in a minute or so, kdm
closes it down.

BTW, AFAIK SuSE ships with the "new session" working, and I think adds
all users to audio group by default (among others) and allows audio
group to write to sound devices.

Regards
Buchan

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[Cooker] [Bug 4135] [libext2fs2-devel] New: file conflict with krb5-devel

2003-07-03 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4135

   Product: libext2fs2-devel
 Component: packaging
   Summary: file conflict with krb5-devel
   Product: libext2fs2-devel
   Version: 1.32-3mdk
  Platform: Sun
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]$ rpm -Uhv --test libext2fs2* 
Preparing...### [100%]
file /usr/lib/libcom_err.so from install of libext2fs2-devel-1.33-1mdk
conflicts with file from package krb5-devel-1.2.7-4mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]$ 


The new version 1.33-1mdk has a shared version of libcom_err, the old one only
had a static version.

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
 to
> > /var/spool/amavisd/viruses
>
> Yes, but for viruses the Warning messages doesn't contain the
> ID of the file, like it happens in amavis-0.3.12.

I am not entirely sure what you mean, this is a virus message from 
amavisd-new:

--
A virus (PE_Magistr.B.Dam) was found.

Scanner detecting a virus: Trophie

The mail originated from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at:
   pppdslh205.mpls.uswest.net (HELO Bed) (216.160.26.205)

The message WILL NOT BE delivered to:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   550 5.7.1 Message content rejected, id=20707-06 - VIRUS: PE_Magistr.B.Dam

Virus scanner output:
   1:PE_Magistr.B.Dam

The message has been quarantined as:
   /var/lib/amavis/virusmails/virus-20030703-093755-20707-06

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> Bye.
> Giuseppe.

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
 to
> > /var/spool/amavisd/viruses
>
> Yes, but for viruses the Warning messages doesn't contain the
> ID of the file, like it happens in amavis-0.3.12.

I am not entirely sure what you mean, this is a virus message from 
amavisd-new:

--
A virus (PE_Magistr.B.Dam) was found.

Scanner detecting a virus: Trophie

The mail originated from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at:
   pppdslh205.mpls.uswest.net (HELO Bed) (216.160.26.205)

The message WILL NOT BE delivered to:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   550 5.7.1 Message content rejected, id=20707-06 - VIRUS: PE_Magistr.B.Dam

Virus scanner output:
   1:PE_Magistr.B.Dam

The message has been quarantined as:
   /var/lib/amavis/virusmails/virus-20030703-093755-20707-06

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> Bye.
> Giuseppe.

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[Cooker] [Bug 389] [Bugzilla] Titles of Mandrake Bugzilla pages are badly chose

2003-07-03 Thread [bugzilla-mandrake]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=389


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I'm reporting this here, because bug reporting for Bugzilla is broken
(I submitted a bug about that).

The Bugzilla web pages could use some work.

For example, the first page reads
 "Bugzilla Main Page - Netscape"
This is poor.  The title should identify the page to the user, for use
in their bookmarks.  The above would be better as
 "MandrakeSoft Bugzilla Main Page"

This problem is common to many pages on the site.



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] octave-2.1.50-1mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
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On Thursday 03 July 2003 16:19, Buchan Milne wrote:
> David Coe wrote:
> > Whow .. the RPM for this is 32M in size, compared with 7.2M for the
> > earlier version in MDK 9.1 contrib and 7.9M for a local rebuild using
> > the stock MDK 9.1 compilers and libraries.
> >
> > What gives with the cooker build environment?
>
> gcc-3.3 generates huge binaries with debug flag enabled (which I had
> never consciously checked before). My source/bin on compiling samba3 was
>
> > 600MB until I removed -g from the flags.
>
> Regards,
> Buchan
should'nt -g be removed from %optflags when we're not building -debug 
packages..?
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 3 juli 2003 15.24 skrev Frederic Crozat:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 15:14:31 +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > torsdagen den 3 juli 2003 12.30 skrev Frederic Crozat:
> >
> > On 9.1:
>
> I don't support 9.1 :))

I want it to work as the versions in 9.1 won't.

> > Executing(0nstall): /bin/bash -e /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500
> > + umask 022
> > + cd /home/oden/RPM/BUILD
> > + cd pwlib-1.5.0
> > + rm -rf /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root
> > + install -d /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/lib
> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptclib
> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptlib/unix/ptlib
> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/bin
> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/share/pwlib
> > + make PREFIX=/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr install
> > make/ptlib.mak:42: /usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak: No such file or
> > directory make: *** No rule to make target
> > `/usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak'.  Stop. error: Bad exit status from
> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500 (0nstall)
>
> It build fine here... Did you have an old version of pwlib installed on
> your system or not ?

No.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:08:51 +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:

>> > Executing(0nstall): /bin/bash -e /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500
>> > + umask 022
>> > + cd /home/oden/RPM/BUILD
>> > + cd pwlib-1.5.0
>> > + rm -rf /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root
>> > + install -d /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/lib
>> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptclib
>> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptlib/unix/ptlib
>> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/bin
>> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/share/pwlib
>> > + make PREFIX=/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr install
>> > make/ptlib.mak:42: /usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak: No such file or
>> > directory make: *** No rule to make target
>> > `/usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak'.  Stop. error: Bad exit status from
>> > /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500 (0nstall)
>>
>> It build fine here... Did you have an old version of pwlib installed on
>> your system or not ?
> 
> No.

Ok, I can reproduce it here.. Checking..

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Getting closer!

2003-07-03 Thread magic
Buchan Milne wrote:

I don't have much time to look at all of this, so if you can get
something together it would help. Something like that can be added quite
easily late in the dev cycle, but we can't wait much longer to switch to
openldap-2.1.x and dumping sasl2, so I will spend what time I have on
getting postfix to auth to openldap via sasl2 ... until it works.
Buchan,

  Just wanted to let you know I believe I'm making progress with the 
postfix, saslauthd, pam, openldap stuff.

  I spent all day yesterday tracking down auth errors, rebuilding and 
installing rpms, and as of this morning actually have postfix auth'ing 
against saslauthd using pam for system users. I wanted to take 
everything one step at a time, and figured that postfix -> saslauthd was 
the best place to start. (Although installed, I don't have the openldap, 
pam_ldap stuff configured yet.)

  The problem is, now I need to be able to reproduce. As I was trying 
to isolate issues as I encountered them, I didn't write anything down 
:'( ...  I won't have much time to work on this until the end of next 
week (will be out of town) but wanted to provide you with as much 
help/hints as I can.  My goal is to do another rebuild (starting with 
base mdk91), and document what needs to happen to bring all the pieces 
together (step-by-step).

  (As I recall) I started with db41, then rebuilt your openldap srpm, 
and installed. Then I had to install openssl 0.9.7b, and all the other 
deps required to rebuild postfix. After rebuilding postfix, configured 
and Hmmm, it's working. (Geez, sounds so simple when I put it like that, 
but it wasn't...) 

  Note: I needed to take postfix out of chroot (master.cf):
   smtpinetn   -   n   -   -   smtpd
  I saw where there were some work-arounds for this but they weren't 
pretty, and had issues of there own.

  My next step is to configure openldap, get that into pam, so 
saslauthd will use. If all goes well there, postfix, cyrus-imap (and 
others?) should be able to authenticate system & ldap users (with no 
difference). I think we are getting very close!

  The rpms I currently have installed (mdk9.1 based) include:
# rpm -qa '*postfix*'
postfix-2.0.12-3mdk
# rpm -qa '*sasl*'
libsasl2-plug-login-2.1.13-2mdk
libsasl2-2.1.13-2mdk
libsasl2-devel-2.1.13-2mdk
libsasl2-plug-plain-2.1.13-2mdk
cyrus-sasl-2.1.12-1mdk
libsasl7-1.5.28-5mdk
# rpm -qa '*ldap*'
nss_ldap-204-1.1mdk
openldap-servers-2.1.22-1mdk
openldap-2.1.22-1mdk
openldap-clients-2.1.22-1mdk
libldap2-devel-2.1.22-1mdk
php-ldap-4.3.0-3mdk
libldap2-2.1.22-1mdk
openldap-migration-2.1.22-1mdk
# rpm -qa '*ssl*'
libopenssl0.9.7-devel-0.9.7b-2mdk
libopenssl0-0.9.6i-1.1mdk
openssl-0.9.7b-2mdk
libopenssl0.9.7-0.9.7b-2mdk
  Hope all this helps! - I'm just excited to finally be able to auth 
with postfix. (Trying to walk before I run.)

  Scott





[Cooker] [Bug 4106] [gnomemeeting] Problem installing gnomemeeting

2003-07-03 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4106


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gnomemeeting-0.96.1-2mdk.i586 (libpt.so.1 non satisfait)
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Mail Scanning

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:59 pm, magic wrote:
> magic wrote:
> > Bret Baptist wrote:
> >>Bret Baptist wrote:
> >>I would like to second the use of amavisd-new.  I use it for our
> >> mailserver and it is awesome.  We do about 100,000 messages a day, not
> >> that high volume, but enough.  I have never had a problem with
> >> amavisd-new.
> >>
> >>http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/
> >>
> >>I have recommended this in the past.  I still recommend it!
> >
> >To be honest, I haven't looked at it. What are the pros/cons
> > compared to using Spamassassin & razor as I have it configured. I read
> > where it was written in perl, is that the daemon, the client or both?
> >
> >Whatever is settled on, it is my opinion that it needs to run as a
> > daemon. The overhead saved is returned in performance.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >S
>
> Actually I took a second look, and I believe that MailScanner appears to
> be the way to go.
>
> They have rpms, srpm, and spec file for download. Now I haven't built
> rpms before, but that seems to be everything we would need to start a
> mdk build.
> http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/downloads.shtml
>
> * Support for 15 virus scanners:
>   Sophos, McAfee, Command, Kaspersky, Inoculate, Inoculan, Nod32,
>   F-Secure, F-Prot, Panda, RAV, AntiVir, Clam, Bitdefender and Vscan.
> * Direct support for sendmail, Postfix, Exim and ZMailer mail systems.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> S

In addition to what Chris wrote:

*  It can be configured with a MySQL backend.  This can control things such 
as:
1.  Per recipient scanning policies.
2.  Per recipient white/black lists.
3.  Other things I am forgetting right now. :-)
*  It is extremely fast.  As a daemon you only have to parse the perl once, 
after that it is loaded in memory.

*  Just check this out, better worded than I could ever do:  
http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/#features


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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Florin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oden Eriksson) writes:

> torsdagen den 3 juli 2003 15.24 skrev Frederic Crozat:
> > On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 15:14:31 +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > > torsdagen den 3 juli 2003 12.30 skrev Frederic Crozat:
> > >
> > > On 9.1:
> >
> > I don't support 9.1 :))
> 
> I want it to work as the versions in 9.1 won't.

you're trying to say that gnomemeeting doesn't work on 9.1 ? 

> 
> > > Executing(0nstall): /bin/bash -e /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500
> > > + umask 022
> > > + cd /home/oden/RPM/BUILD
> > > + cd pwlib-1.5.0
> > > + rm -rf /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root
> > > + install -d /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/lib
> > > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptclib
> > > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptlib/unix/ptlib
> > > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/bin
> > > /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/share/pwlib
> > > + make PREFIX=/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr install
> > > make/ptlib.mak:42: /usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak: No such file or
> > > directory make: *** No rule to make target
> > > `/usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak'.  Stop. error: Bad exit status from
> > > /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500 (0nstall)
> >
> > It build fine here... Did you have an old version of pwlib installed on
> > your system or not ?
> 
> No.

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Re: [Cooker] isdn - damien chaumatte somewhere ?

2003-07-03 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 14:46 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 11:23 schrieben Sie:
> >> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >> > HI!
> >> >
> >> > I just want to ask. Is Damien away again ? Havent got any response
> >> > since some days now.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone a clue ?
> >>
> >> If it has something to do with isdn, I might maybe help. Send me the
> >> problem description, I'll try to figure out
> >
> > Hi Dams (Damian ?)
> >
> > I mailed with damien chaumette a while ago about isdn4net/isdn-light. As
> > isdn is not the best maintained thing we agreed that to packages for isdn
> > configuration are overkill. I have taken over the development of isdn4net
> > a while ago and as isdn-light can not take care of all options of isdn we
> > decided that isdn4net should be the only package. Thats the history.
>
> Ok :) I wrote isdn-light because I found isdn4net was bloated (at the
> time), and I needed a simple package that works similary to an ethernet
> interface, and also a simple way to handle firmware loading in the isdn
> cards. But if you have taken over the development of isdn4net, isdn-light
> can be dropped, now that cooker has you :)

isdn4linux scripts will allways be bloated once you have the most common 
options running. Its a common flaw of isdn4linux. Once you beginn with a 
small script and you add this and that, you will have in the and again a 
bloated script or you do not support the most common uses of isdn4linux. 
Further it is a pain to support isdn under mandrake if you first have to 
determine which version the people have running. (I mean support on 
mandrakeexpert here)

[ ... ]

> besides these modifications, are the mdk isdn4net script correct? do they
> work with drakconnect correctly? Is there a list of supported isdn cards by
> drakconnect+isdn4net ?

Beside that drakconnect and isdn4net should work without problems.

 I could try to figure out wich cards should work with isdn4net and 
drakconnect, faster I could make a list of supported cards of isdn4net alone. 
Am I right that all modules that van be found in ldetect-lst with "ISDN:*" 
should be known to isdn4net to support all cards ? 

 If there were cards that worked with isdn-light and not with isdn4net i would 
like to know about it, so i can support it with isdn4net. For me isdn4net 
worked allways better then isdn-light. Further I have added an option to fast 
add unsupported cards. 

As you know the scripts I guess you understand the following. 

'ippp*')
echo "Loading driver defined in modules.conf ..."
/sbin/modprobe -v $I4L_MODULE >/dev/null
if test $? -ne 0; then
  cleanup
fi
;;

A driver ippp0 can be added with an alias to the correct driver in 
modules.conf. 

> If it works as good as it worked with isdn-light, I'll do the modifications

Again if there were known problems with isdn4net that i do not know about i 
would love to hear about it, so i can fix it. I would say it works as good as 
isdn-light. I haven't heard the opposite. 

I will send the src.rpm to you per PM 

Regards 

Steffen





[Cooker] [Bug 3020] [initscripts] shutdown aborting with a bash syntax error

2003-07-03 Thread [sergei]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3020





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Works fine now for me. Thanks! 

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Hello,

I'm using 9.1 RC2.

Here's what I get when I run `shutdown -r|-h now' or `init 6'
from a console session([Ctrl][Alt][F1]):

...
INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal
;2R
 -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'

This happens with or without ACPI set at boot time.

Is there a syntax error in init scripts?

Here's my hardware configuration (Keynux Agora eV laptop):

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 11)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 11)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM SMBus (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio (rev 02)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon
Mobility 9000 M9] (rev 01)
02:04.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000
Controller (PHY/Link)
02:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
02:07.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller
02:0a.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50)
02:0a.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50)
02:0a.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51)

Don't hesitate to get back to me!
Thank you for your support.

Cheers,

Mike.



Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto:

Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 13:39 schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò:

Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto:

Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer:

So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat
I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few
messages per hour. But else, the overhead is to much. A daemon
talking smtp is prefered (and that is waht amavisd-new does).
But, IIRC, amavis forks a new spamassasin in the backgroung for each
message, so, this is almost the same ?
No, amavisd-new runs as a daemon and is written in perl. It loads the
Mail::Spamassassin perl module at starttime. No external process is
started (besides the virus scanner not speaking smtp).
Martin
I've currently packaged that here:

http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/amavisd-new-0.20030616-1mdk.src.rpm



looks nice. I will it test tomorrow.


But, before posting to contrib, I'm currently trying to find how to modify
amavisd.conf so that:
- local "recipient" users is warned about receiving virus mail (with virus
ID) - sender is warned about sending a mail with virus, but only if sender
is relaying from LAN (it's a nonsense to warn non-local sender because
99.9% in case of virus, the sender is fake).


There is a flag called warnvirusrecip. But this will warn all recipients 
That's bad, because remote user shouldn't be warned because
generally address are FAKE, so you'll send the mail
to the wrong person, or you'll have the queue full
of non deliverable mails. Plain amavis-0.3.12 (in contrib)
can do this, simply placing the localdomain into
/etc/amavis-localdomains.conf.
regardless of local user or not. So the easyest way is to use different 
mailserver for sending out and receiving in.
Why a different mail server? One needs that the mail Sent containing
a virus should be blocked, but the LAN sender should be warned that
he was sending a virus...; Indeed this should be done in a
more powerful way because generally if the Sender takes a virus
(like SoBig,BugBear, etc.), generally it would fake addresses
even if coming from LAN. So an effective way for doing this would
a double checking:
a) Send Warning Mail to Sender address only if the address is in the
local domain (at most this will warn wrong user but not to wrong domain)
b) Have a MAP between client IP addresses and client mail, so to
warn the right user.
Maybe this could be a feature request for Amavis-new authors...



- let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time
collect all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes learning.


Tis is done by default if you configure final_spam_destiny as D_PASS. every 
spam mail over the sa_kill_level_deflt value will be copied to 
/var/spool/amavisd/viruses
Yes, but for viruses the Warning messages doesn't contain the
ID of the file, like it happens in amavis-0.3.12.
Bye.
Giuseppe.



Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Mail Scanning

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:59 pm, magic wrote:
> magic wrote:
> > Bret Baptist wrote:
> >>Bret Baptist wrote:
> >>I would like to second the use of amavisd-new.  I use it for our
> >> mailserver and it is awesome.  We do about 100,000 messages a day, not
> >> that high volume, but enough.  I have never had a problem with
> >> amavisd-new.
> >>
> >>http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/
> >>
> >>I have recommended this in the past.  I still recommend it!
> >
> >To be honest, I haven't looked at it. What are the pros/cons
> > compared to using Spamassassin & razor as I have it configured. I read
> > where it was written in perl, is that the daemon, the client or both?
> >
> >Whatever is settled on, it is my opinion that it needs to run as a
> > daemon. The overhead saved is returned in performance.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >S
>
> Actually I took a second look, and I believe that MailScanner appears to
> be the way to go.
>
> They have rpms, srpm, and spec file for download. Now I haven't built
> rpms before, but that seems to be everything we would need to start a
> mdk build.
> http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/downloads.shtml
>
> * Support for 15 virus scanners:
>   Sophos, McAfee, Command, Kaspersky, Inoculate, Inoculan, Nod32,
>   F-Secure, F-Prot, Panda, RAV, AntiVir, Clam, Bitdefender and Vscan.
> * Direct support for sendmail, Postfix, Exim and ZMailer mail systems.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> S

In addition to what Chris wrote:

*  It can be configured with a MySQL backend.  This can control things such 
as:
1.  Per recipient scanning policies.
2.  Per recipient white/black lists.
3.  Other things I am forgetting right now. :-)
*  It is extremely fast.  As a daemon you only have to parse the perl once, 
after that it is loaded in memory.

*  Just check this out, better worded than I could ever do:  
http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/#features


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[Cooker] [Bug 1837] [Hardware] D-Link DWL-650+

2003-07-03 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1837


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what do you mean by wrong identification ?
what reports lspcidrake -v ?
and what should it have reported firt ?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] octave-2.1.50-1mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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> Whow .. the RPM for this is 32M in size, compared with 7.2M for the
> earlier version in MDK 9.1 contrib and 7.9M for a local rebuild using
> the stock MDK 9.1 compilers and libraries.
>
> What gives with the cooker build environment?
>

gcc-3.3 generates huge binaries with debug flag enabled (which I had
never consciously checked before). My source/bin on compiling samba3 was
> 600MB until I removed -g from the flags.

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] TOSHIBA Laptop Keyboards

2003-07-03 Thread Linux
Hi all,

Sorry if I use this list not as it's planned, but I'm not a developper,
just a simple user.
I would like to higlight a problem I have with my Mandrake 9.1 installed
on a brand new TOSHIBA laptop, (Satellite 2410-514).
Everything if fine except my keyboard under KDE, wich do double letters.
KDE control panel or kbdrate did not correct the problem.
Gnome keyboard control panel did, because you have mor parameter and the
double letter delay can be reduced below 100ms (not with KDE)

The only solution I found is to use a suZe program called xbounce, wich
worked perfectly-no more problems. Unfortunately this soft is not free.
Do you think it could be possible to correct the specific TOSHIBA
problem in the 9.2 ??

Thanks a lot for your job.

Manuel PAULIN (France)




Re: [Cooker] Checking version being updated in postinstall

2003-07-03 Thread Thierry Vignaud
"Andrey Borzenkov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there generic way to check old version in postinstall during
> update? I need to do action either on new install or on update from
> "really old version".

just use a trigger




[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] octave-2.1.50-1mdk

2003-07-03 Thread David Coe
Whow .. the RPM for this is 32M in size, compared with 7.2M for the 
earlier version in MDK 9.1 contrib and 7.9M for a local rebuild using 
the stock MDK 9.1 compilers and libraries.

What gives with the cooker build environment?




Re: [Cooker] Feature request for drakbackup

2003-07-03 Thread Stew Benedict

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:

> Le mer 02/07/2003 à 22:24, Stew Benedict a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
> > > There should be an entry that will allow you to check current
> > > configuration and at least say if last schedule backup was has been
> > > done.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Actually there is a screen to see your configuration, but perhaps it needs 
> > to be more readily accessible.
> > 
> > Backup Now | View Backup Configuration
> 
> indeed. Sometimes I don't know if the backup setup is right, or if the
> backup as been correctly done. Of course there's the mail, but I send
> the mail to someone else and I don't check if the mails are right and if
> the backup is done. And I don't knwo if I can put a CC, or a second user
> in the To field.
> In order not to clutter to much the UI, you can make the following
> entries :
> 
> 
>   |-> Manual // specify files/dir+dest & backup
> Quick Backup -> |
>   |-> Auto  // make backup from config
> 
> 

This would be a significant change.  I don't know that I can implement 
that now.  I did put the "View" on the first screen now also. There really 
isn't anything setup atm to do an "on the fly" backup.

> Restore
> 
> 
>   |-> View Backup configuration // view backup conf
> Manage Backup ->|-> View backup log   // view backup log
>   |-> Configure Backup// configure backup
> 
> 
> 
> > You can also have the result mailed to the user of your choice, but I'll 
> > look at saving a log for viewing, as well as the issues posted earlier as 
> > to no units on the max size (not sure that this is even abided by), and 
> > consuming /var on a small partition.
> 
> That's true concerning the units as we don't know the unit. On top of
> that there's a bug in backup size. I used to backup on a 20/40 GB tape.
> The pb is that I can't specify the right size and it default to old
> size. So I just hope that it will be able to backup up everything.
> 

Doesn't even really apply to tape.  In all regards, this number isn't evne 
utilized.  I'm trying to do something now at least to honor it on HD, as 
well as set a sane default for a given system.  Part of drakbackup's 
problems is it tried to be too much, too soon.  A lot of features were 
partially implemented in the GUI, with no backend support.  I inherited it 
from the previous developer and I'm trying to bring it up to snuff.

> Concerning /var space consuming, what about make one tar.gz and copy it,
> delete it, and so on ? Or give the ability to specify a different
> directory ?
> 

Well you can change directories.  Incremental or differential backups 
mimimize the space consumed on subsequent backups.

> > The other discussion on smart trash etc. is interesting, but I don't know 
> > that I'll be able to get into that.
> 
> You should wait for 10 release as it won't be easy to implement and used
> by the user
> 
> 

Yes, in reality feature additions aren't part of the spec at all for 9.2 
afaik.

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[Cooker] KOffice -- no MS-Word import filter

2003-07-03 Thread Andy Neitzke
Hello,

Since switching to the KOffice 1.3 beta series (currently 
koffice-1.3-0.beta2.1mdk) I have no MS-Word import filter -- shouldn't this 
be there?  It used to work in 1.2, and looking around the KOffice web sites I 
don't see any sign that it has been removed, or any bug reports from people 
who are missing it.

-Andy




Re: [Cooker] uhci controller detection broken

2003-07-03 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The detection of my uhci controller seems broken in kernel-smp and
> kernel-enterprise.
> It lists the controller twice in lspcidrake -v: 
> usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 USB [SERIAL_USB]
> (vendor:8086 device:7112) 
> unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor:
> device:) 



no, the first one is pci device of the usb controller (its
"frondend"), the second one being the usb device part of your usb
controller (its "backend")

 PCI BUS +---
 |
 USB CONTROLLER CARD   \
 | | all of this is the usb controller
   USB HUB /
 |
 USB BUS +---

> The second time it has broken vendor and device ids, which are also
> broken in /proc/bus/usb/devices:

this is quite common.




[Cooker] USB CD burner, load sg module on hotplug?

2003-07-03 Thread Adam Williamson
Just a minor request...I've been using my Dad's USB2 CD-RW, a Philips
Jackrabbit, and was rather impressed that it worked just fine in
Mandrake. However, at first it didn't, and it took me quite a lot of
Google digging to find out (from an old Mandrake list post, as it
happens) that you have to do "modprobe sg" before the CD writing apps
will find the drive. Would it be possible to load this module for USB CD
writers when they're plugged in? if that's done, they should work
perfectly transparently - just plug in, run a CD burning app and go.
This is the lsusb output for this particular drive:

Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0471:0811 Philips
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake pre-installed on HP desktops

2003-07-03 Thread magic
John Keller wrote:

Since there was a thread recently about Mandrake seeming a quiet in the face
of SUSE's announcements, I thought it interesting to find this article on
The Register:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/51/31547.html

Hopefully, this kind of positioning and visibility will translate into a
steady source of income for the distro. It does seem to indicate that
desktop Linux is a viable product. The desktop-user-oriented features that
are so hotly discussed on Cooker should continue to be discussed (though
maybe a bit less hotly?). Obviously no distro has ironed everything out, but
by "actively thinking" I think that Mandrake can arrive there sooner.
Mandrake has done a great job with the desktop & usability.

I would also like to see Mandrake advance their server offerings (like 
the ongoing mail server discussions).

'Hats-off' to Mandrake (pardon the pun!)

  Cheers!

  S





[Cooker] [Bug 2203] [Installation] Sound chip identified but not correctly installed on Acer laptop

2003-07-03 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2203


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could you give us the result of the following commands:
lspcidrake -v
/sbin/lsmod

does it works better if you switch from trident OSS driver to the snd-ali5451
ALSA driver in draksound ?

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On my Acer Travelmate 521 TE the sound chip (Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali
5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version 0.14.10h according to dmesg) seems to
be correctly identified at installation time, but the relative module fails at
boot time: insmod failed.

Syslog says:

kernel: Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali 5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version
0.14.10h
kernel: PCI: Guessed IRQ 10 for device 00:06.0
kernel: trident: ALi Audio Accelerator found at IO 0x 9000, IRQ 10
kernel: ALi 5451 did not come out of reset
kernel: trident_ac97_init: error resetting 5451
modprobe: Hint: [usual message about insmod errors]
modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz:
init_module: No such device
modprobe: modprobe: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz failed

Note: always installed with no problems using Mandrake Linux 8.1, 8.2, 9.0.



Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 15:14:31 +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:

> torsdagen den 3 juli 2003 12.30 skrev Frederic Crozat:
> 
> On 9.1:

I don't support 9.1 :))


> Executing(0nstall): /bin/bash -e /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500
> + umask 022
> + cd /home/oden/RPM/BUILD
> + cd pwlib-1.5.0
> + rm -rf /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root
> + install -d /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/lib 
> /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptclib 
> /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptlib/unix/ptlib 
> /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/bin 
> /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/share/pwlib
> + make PREFIX=/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr install
> make/ptlib.mak:42: /usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak'.  Stop.
> error: Bad exit status from /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500 (0nstall)

It build fine here... Did you have an old version of pwlib installed on
your system or not ?
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[Cooker] more messed up dependencies

2003-07-03 Thread Adam Williamson
on urpmi --auto-select this afternoon:

Some package requested cannot be installed:
drakfirsttime-0.91-13mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(Request))
zapping-0.6.7-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied liblirc_client.so) (Y/n) y
The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
frozen-bubble-1.0.0-2mdk.i586 (due to missing perl(fbsyms))
net-rhythmbox-0.4.8-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied gstreamer-mad >=
0.6.1) (y/N) y
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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk

2003-07-03 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 3 juli 2003 12.30 skrev Frederic Crozat:

On 9.1:

Executing(%install): /bin/bash -e /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500
+ umask 022
+ cd /home/oden/RPM/BUILD
+ cd pwlib-1.5.0
+ rm -rf /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root
+ install -d /home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/lib 
/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptclib 
/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/include/ptlib/unix/ptlib 
/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/bin 
/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr/share/pwlib
+ make PREFIX=/home/oden/RPM/temp/pwlib-1.5.0-9mdk-root/usr install
make/ptlib.mak:42: /usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak: No such file or directory
make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/pwlib/make/common.mak'.  Stop.
error: Bad exit status from /home/oden/RPM/temp/rpm-tmp.23500 (%install)



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[Cooker] [Bug 3934] [drakxtools] drakconnect failled to handle package installation faillure

2003-07-03 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3934


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network::network does install some packages (through
interactive::do_pkgs->install that is pkgs_interactive) but it silently failled
to install them is something happen such as a wrong rpm signature.

one only see the preparing installation windows then drakconnect go to next step.
one can see some urpmi error message on the console if he runned drakconnect
from the console. eg:

"The following packages have bad signatures
 //C/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/tmdns-0.1-11mdk.i586.rpm"

either standalone module or drakconnect should be fixed to handle such basic errors.

at least, the error should be reported to the user. ->install() return value is
*not* checked



[Cooker] [Bug 1075] [cups] incorrect colors on HP Deskjet 832 C

2003-07-03 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1075


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I am running current cooker and I have set up my HP Deskjet 832C as an available
printer. 
I was given the choice between 
HP Deskjet Series CUPS v. 1.1
HP New Deskjet Series CUPS v. 1.1
and I chose the former since it seemed to be the default.
I also chose the colormodel to be CMYK because it was the default.
Then I printed the test page and all the black colors (the borders and the text)
were blue instead of black.
The resolution in the colored graphics seemed to be much below the 300 DPI that
I had specified.

I tried to switch to a grayscale colormodel and printed the test page, but it
looked the same as with the CMYK colormodel.



[Cooker] [Bug 2187] [Hardware] sis usb2.0 controler not recognized

2003-07-03 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2187


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in lspcidrake i got this...
unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|7002 USB 2.0 Controller
I got external usb2.0 hard disk, and when connected to this only works on
usb1.1...the strangest thing, it worked on mandrake9.1 beta 3...



Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select

2003-07-03 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Jul 03  3:07 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> The thing is.. they aren't TOTALLY broken.  Most of that "brokenness" can be 
> fixed with a one-time force-upgrade.

I'm not strictly talking about urpmi... all I've urpmi'd lately is urpmi
and it's dependencies.  Basically, I judge whether or not to even
attempt an upgrade by the dependency errors found by gendistrib, which
may or may not have anything to do with errors returned by urpmi.

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Re: [Cooker] isdn - damien chaumatte somewhere ?

2003-07-03 Thread dams
Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 11:23 schrieben Sie:
>> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> > HI!
>> >
>> > I just want to ask. Is Damien away again ? Havent got any response since
>> > some days now.
>> >
>> > Anyone a clue ?
>>
>> If it has something to do with isdn, I might maybe help. Send me the
>> problem description, I'll try to figure out
>
> Hi Dams (Damian ?)
>
> I mailed with damien chaumette a while ago about isdn4net/isdn-light. As isdn 
> is not the best maintained thing we agreed that to packages for isdn 
> configuration are overkill. I have taken over the development of isdn4net a 
> while ago and as isdn-light can not take care of all options of isdn we 
> decided that isdn4net should be the only package. Thats the history. 

Ok :) I wrote isdn-light because I found isdn3net was bloated (at the time),
and I needed a simple package that works similary to an ethernet interface, and
also a simple way to handle firmware loading in the isdn cards. But if you have
taken over the development of isdn4net, isdn-light can be dropped, now that
cooker has you :)


[...]

>
> I have a ready src-rpm for it i can send you. The next plans are to make a 
> manpage for isdn4net and make a web-page ready and release the new version on 
> the project page. The new location for isdn4net is http://isdn4net.berlios.de 
> . I mailed this URL allready to Stein Vrale, so he will add this information 
> to his isdn4net site . 

great!

>
> The next issue I have is that drakconnect/DrakX should have better defaults. 
> Currently the default is to have ONBOOT=no for configured connections 
> (/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ippp0) and to have 
> ifup=ippp0 
> isdnctrl dial ippp0
> in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_up. 
> A better way would be to have as default for a configured connection 
> ONBOOT=yes. This way the pseudo-network-device is up and running on 
> startup.(net_cnx_up should have then only isdnctrl dial ippp0 ofcourse ) The 
> dial up is a bit faster and it is more compatible with tools for dial up. The 
> common solution/workaround till now was to put a /sbin/ifup ippp0 in the 
> rc.local script (see http://mandrakeuser.org). 

besides these modifications, are the mdk isdn4net script correct? do they work
with drakconnect correctly? Is there a list of supported isdn cards by
drakconnect+isdn4net ?

If it works as good as it worked with isdn-light, I'll do the modifications

>
> I know a bit longish mail, but i wanted to summarize it a bit :)
np

>
> I put too a CC to cooker in, hope you don't mind
np :)

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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4134] [man-pages-fr] New: file conflict

2003-07-03 Thread Thierry Vignaud
"[manu]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the 0.9.7-13 package has a file conflict with  rpm-4.2-8mdk:: 
>  
>  file /usr/share/man/fr/man8/rpm.8.bz2 from install of rpm-4.2-8mdk conflicts with 
> file 
> from package man-pages-fr-0.9.7-13mdk

@resolution=fixed

alread fixed (and fixed a long time ago)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mdk/gi/perl-install # rpm -q rpm man-pages-fr
rpm-4.2-8mdk
man-pages-fr-0.9.7-17mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mdk/gi/perl-install #  rpm -e man-pages-fr
 urpmi man-pages-fr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mdk/gi/perl-install #  urpmi man-pages-fr

installing //C/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/man-pages-fr-0.9.7-17mdk.noarch.rpm
Préparation...  ##
   1:man-pages-fr   ##

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mdk/gi/perl-install # rpm -q --changelog man-pages-fr|head -11
* mer Mae  14 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9.7-17mdk

- fix #3828
- new: dga.1x, xvinfo.1x
- update: dhcpd.conf.5

* mer Ebr  30 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9.7-16mdk

- new or previouly missing: gpg.1, gpgv.1, sshd_config.5, frozen-bubble.6,
  gnupg.7, arp.8
- fix conflict with new rpm-4.2




Re: [Cooker] Feature request for drakbackup

2003-07-03 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mer 02/07/2003 à 22:24, Stew Benedict a écrit :
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
> > There should be an entry that will allow you to check current
> > configuration and at least say if last schedule backup was has been
> > done.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Actually there is a screen to see your configuration, but perhaps it needs 
> to be more readily accessible.
> 
> Backup Now | View Backup Configuration

indeed. Sometimes I don't know if the backup setup is right, or if the
backup as been correctly done. Of course there's the mail, but I send
the mail to someone else and I don't check if the mails are right and if
the backup is done. And I don't knwo if I can put a CC, or a second user
in the To field.
In order not to clutter to much the UI, you can make the following
entries :


|-> Manual // specify files/dir+dest & backup
Quick Backup -> |
|-> Auto  // make backup from config


Restore


|-> View Backup configuration // view backup conf
Manage Backup ->|-> View backup log // view backup log
|-> Configure Backup// configure backup



> You can also have the result mailed to the user of your choice, but I'll 
> look at saving a log for viewing, as well as the issues posted earlier as 
> to no units on the max size (not sure that this is even abided by), and 
> consuming /var on a small partition.

That's true concerning the units as we don't know the unit. On top of
that there's a bug in backup size. I used to backup on a 20/40 GB tape.
The pb is that I can't specify the right size and it default to old
size. So I just hope that it will be able to backup up everything.

Concerning /var space consuming, what about make one tar.gz and copy it,
delete it, and so on ? Or give the ability to specify a different
directory ?

> The other discussion on smart trash etc. is interesting, but I don't know 
> that I'll be able to get into that.

You should wait for 10 release as it won't be easy to implement and used
by the user




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 13:39 schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò:
> Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto:
> > Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer:
> >>>So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat
> >>>I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few
> >>>messages per hour. But else, the overhead is to much. A daemon
> >>>talking smtp is prefered (and that is waht amavisd-new does).
> >>
> >>But, IIRC, amavis forks a new spamassasin in the backgroung for each
> >>message, so, this is almost the same ?
> >
> > No, amavisd-new runs as a daemon and is written in perl. It loads the
> > Mail::Spamassassin perl module at starttime. No external process is
> > started (besides the virus scanner not speaking smtp).
> >
> > Martin
>
> I've currently packaged that here:
>
> http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/amavisd-new-0.20030616-1mdk.src.rpm
>

looks nice. I will it test tomorrow.

> But, before posting to contrib, I'm currently trying to find how to modify
> amavisd.conf so that:
>
> - local "recipient" users is warned about receiving virus mail (with virus
> ID) - sender is warned about sending a mail with virus, but only if sender
> is relaying from LAN (it's a nonsense to warn non-local sender because
> 99.9% in case of virus, the sender is fake).

There is a flag called warnvirusrecip. But this will warn all recipients 
regardless of local user or not. So the easyest way is to use different 
mailserver for sending out and receiving in.

> - let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time
> collect all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes learning.

Tis is done by default if you configure final_spam_destiny as D_PASS. every 
spam mail over the sa_kill_level_deflt value will be copied to 
/var/spool/amavisd/viruses

>
> Any quick hints welcome...
>
> Furthermore I still need to add a %post script so to set $mydomain in
> /etc/amavisd.conf.
>
> Bye.
> Giuseppe.

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[Cooker] Mandrake pre-installed on HP desktops

2003-07-03 Thread John Keller
Since there was a thread recently about Mandrake seeming a quiet in the face
of SUSE's announcements, I thought it interesting to find this article on
The Register:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/51/31547.html

Hopefully, this kind of positioning and visibility will translate into a
steady source of income for the distro. It does seem to indicate that
desktop Linux is a viable product. The desktop-user-oriented features that
are so hotly discussed on Cooker should continue to be discussed (though
maybe a bit less hotly?). Obviously no distro has ironed everything out, but
by "actively thinking" I think that Mandrake can arrive there sooner.

John




Re: [Cooker] cooker traffic

2003-07-03 Thread dams
"Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:25:20 +0200, dam wrote:
>
>> 
>> Proposal : what about setting up a cooker traffic? like kernel traffic? It
>> would be imho very interesting to summarize decisions, important changes, and
>> so on.
>
> It has been tried by GC some time ago (Cooker Weekly News) but it is very
> time consuming..

afaik it was written by mandrake employees only. I'm sure if 10 cooker people
are writing 5 lines each, on a particular topic, plus 5 people to do some
translation, it could be much less time consuming.

My request here is not to overload the mdk employees, but to set up a cooker
traffic, written by and for cooker users

that said, I don't know if it' feasable

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Re: [Cooker] cooker traffic

2003-07-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> > Warly and me, actually. FYI I stopped because of the too little
> > positive feedback received (that's also what builds up
> > motivation),
> 
> Well, before I was active on cooker, it was very much appreciated.

Thanks.
 
> Also, members on MandrakeClub I am sure would appreciate it:
> 
> http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=9311&forum=16

Yes..
 
> > and too little spontaneous information received from
> > other developers on what important things they did in the past
> > week.
> 
> What kind of info do you want?

Basically I would have liked to not be obliged to go "itching"
information. Important packages uploads, important mandrake
software milestones, were the info put in MCWN and if
responsible for them would have sent me the information (as I had
requested) it would have been a far easier and more pleasant job.
 
> > Hum, no, cooker traffic would be a little bit different I think.
> > Like Todd did once, or like kernel traffic can be. Sticking to
> > talking about important threads of discussion, rather than
> > announcing new features and important packages changes.
> 
> I think important package changes might be worth a mention, but also

Yes of course - just wanted to underline that it's out of a
"traffic" scope, in theory.

> summary of some big threads may be worthwhile, and if the news is placed
> somewhere comments are posible (like MandrakeClub), then it would be
> easy to get feedback from non-cooker users.
> 
> IMHO, if people will contribute, and the person responsible only needs
> to collate and spellcheck, it can be done with less work. Doing it via

Well talking about important threads need be "written" anyway..

> MandrakeClub may also provide an easy way for translations to be done,
> after which they could be mailed out (but someone like Reinout will know
> more about that).
> 
> Regards
> Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin & Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto:

Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer:

So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat
I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few
messages per hour. But else, the overhead is to much. A daemon
talking smtp is prefered (and that is waht amavisd-new does).
But, IIRC, amavis forks a new spamassasin in the backgroung for each
message, so, this is almost the same ?


No, amavisd-new runs as a daemon and is written in perl. It loads the 
Mail::Spamassassin perl module at starttime. No external process is started 
(besides the virus scanner not speaking smtp).

Martin
I've currently packaged that here:

http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/amavisd-new-0.20030616-1mdk.src.rpm

But, before posting to contrib, I'm currently trying to find how to modify amavisd.conf so that:

- local "recipient" users is warned about receiving virus mail (with virus ID)
- sender is warned about sending a mail with virus, but only if sender
is relaying from LAN (it's a nonsense to warn non-local sender because
99.9% in case of virus, the sender is fake).
- let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time collect
all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes learning.
Any quick hints welcome...

Furthermore I still need to add a %post script so to set $mydomain in /etc/amavisd.conf.

Bye.
Giuseppe.




Re: [Cooker] isdn - damien chaumatte somewhere ?

2003-07-03 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 11:23 schrieben Sie:
> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > HI!
> >
> > I just want to ask. Is Damien away again ? Havent got any response since
> > some days now.
> >
> > Anyone a clue ?
>
> If it has something to do with isdn, I might maybe help. Send me the
> problem description, I'll try to figure out

Hi Dams (Damian ?)


I mailed with damien chaumette a while ago about isdn4net/isdn-light. As isdn 
is not the best maintained thing we agreed that to packages for isdn 
configuration are overkill. I have taken over the development of isdn4net a 
while ago and as isdn-light can not take care of all options of isdn we 
decided that isdn4net should be the only package. Thats the history. 

I have made a mainly bugfix release of isdn4net :

- integrating the patches from the rpm
- deleted timru options as it is obsolete
- added an option for configuring dialmode of the slave and set it default to 
auto, since ibod will not work otherwise and dialmode auto is recommended for 
the slave by isdn-faq
- added isdn link add/remove  for easier setup of multiple isp's 
- isdn link list will now list only active connections instead of all profiles 
in /etc/isdn/profile/link/
- reactivated isdnlog in the rpm
- added two additional driver as known driver to the startup script 
(capi4linux and hisax_fcpcipnp)

I have a ready src-rpm for it i can send you. The next plans are to make a 
manpage for isdn4net and make a web-page ready and release the new version on 
the project page. The new location for isdn4net is http://isdn4net.berlios.de 
. I mailed this URL allready to Stein Vrale, so he will add this information 
to his isdn4net site . 

The next issue I have is that drakconnect/DrakX should have better defaults. 
Currently the default is to have ONBOOT=no for configured connections 
(/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ippp0) and to have 
ifup=ippp0 
isdnctrl dial ippp0
in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_up. 
A better way would be to have as default for a configured connection 
ONBOOT=yes. This way the pseudo-network-device is up and running on 
startup.(net_cnx_up should have then only isdnctrl dial ippp0 ofcourse ) The 
dial up is a bit faster and it is more compatible with tools for dial up. The 
common solution/workaround till now was to put a /sbin/ifup ippp0 in the 
rc.local script (see http://mandrakeuser.org). 

I know a bit longish mail, but i wanted to summarize it a bit :)

I put too a CC to cooker in, hope you don't mind

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] isdn - damien chaumatte somewhere ?

2003-07-03 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 10:06 schrieb Frederic Crozat:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:46:44 +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> > Le Mercredi 02 Juillet 2003 23:49, Steffen Barszus a écrit :
> >> HI!
> >>
> >> I just want to ask. Is Damien away again ? Havent got any response since
> >> some days now.
> >>
> >> Anyone a clue ?
> >
> > He still works at mdk, but he is notorius to not take to his packages !
> > I don't know a good way to get an answer or an action from this guys.
> >
no , see Frederics answer

> > Can someone at mdk verify he his alive and he get and read his mails ?
>
> Damien is a trainee.. He is not working 1000f his time in MandrakeSoft
> office.. Currently, he is at school, not in our office..

Yep i know that, and i just wanted to know the status where he is. If i know 
it right he is away now for 2 months, so my mails are for /dev/null for a 
long time ;) 

Thanks for the insight :D

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select

2003-07-03 Thread Duncan
On Thu 03 Jul 2003 02:17, Levi Ramsey posted as excerpted below:
> On Wed Jul 02 19:54 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> > I understand those creating mdk rpm packages can't do this, and that's a
> > fair portion of the regulars on this list, but here, I always use
> > --allow-force and --noclean.
>
> Even if I wasn't making mdk rpms, I'd never do this.  Having to use
> either option indicates a bug (especially when its use is required for
> an extended period of time... we've had totally broken perl dependencies
> because of rpm-4.2 for at least a month now).

The thing is.. they aren't TOTALLY broken.  Most of that "brokenness" can be 
fixed with a one-time force-upgrade.  That one-time is sort of a 
"bite-the-bullet" upgrade, because it's a move to a new dependency system.  
Once it is done, the dependencies, with a few exceptions, then resolve 
themselves with new versions, because it is again set up in a self-consistent 
manner.

In regard to perl in particular, I'm not sure that an initial force upgrade 
from what was to the new dependencies system will ever not be necessary.  
However, once it's done, as I said, the system is again set up for self 
consistency again.  The new system was described at implementation as a bit 
of serious pain one time, but resolving a low but constant pain with a better 
approach.  That seems to be indeed what happened, as once I forced the single 
mail perl package, everything else fell into place without issue, because the 
new package had the provides straight that were handled differently in the 
old system with resulting conflicts when you tried to move from one to the 
other.  Once the key package was upgraded, the other conflicts resolved 
themselves, as those on the group said they would.

There are a few other temporary conflicts, but they tend to be temporary and 
fairly minor.  These I can see waiting on, but the perl system conflicts.. 
you might be waiting in vain due to the dependencies system change requiring 
a single forced upgrade. to resolve the issue during the switch.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin




Re: [Cooker] cooker traffic

2003-07-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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Hash: SHA1

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> "Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:25:20 +0200, dam wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Proposal : what about setting up a cooker traffic? like kernel
traffic? It
>>>would be imho very interesting to summarize decisions, important
changes, and
>>>so on.
>>
>>It has been tried by GC some time ago (Cooker Weekly News) but it is very
>>time consuming..
>
>
> Warly and me, actually. FYI I stopped because of the too little
> positive feedback received (that's also what builds up
> motivation),

Well, before I was active on cooker, it was very much appreciated.

Also, members on MandrakeClub I am sure would appreciate it:

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=9311&forum=16

> and too little spontaneous information received from
> other developers on what important things they did in the past
> week.
>

What kind of info do you want?

> Hum, no, cooker traffic would be a little bit different I think.
> Like Todd did once, or like kernel traffic can be. Sticking to
> talking about important threads of discussion, rather than
> announcing new features and important packages changes.
>

I think important package changes might be worth a mention, but also
summary of some big threads may be worthwhile, and if the news is placed
somewhere comments are posible (like MandrakeClub), then it would be
easy to get feedback from non-cooker users.

IMHO, if people will contribute, and the person responsible only needs
to collate and spellcheck, it can be done with less work. Doing it via
MandrakeClub may also provide an easy way for translations to be done,
after which they could be mailed out (but someone like Reinout will know
more about that).

Regards
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] cooker traffic

2003-07-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:25:20 +0200, dam wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Proposal : what about setting up a cooker traffic? like kernel traffic? It
> > would be imho very interesting to summarize decisions, important changes, and
> > so on.
> 
> It has been tried by GC some time ago (Cooker Weekly News) but it is very
> time consuming..

Warly and me, actually. FYI I stopped because of the too little
positive feedback received (that's also what builds up
motivation), and too little spontaneous information received from
other developers on what important things they did in the past
week.

Hum, no, cooker traffic would be a little bit different I think.
Like Todd did once, or like kernel traffic can be. Sticking to
talking about important threads of discussion, rather than
announcing new features and important packages changes.

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Re: [Cooker] cooker traffic

2003-07-03 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:25:20 +0200, dam wrote:

> 
> Proposal : what about setting up a cooker traffic? like kernel traffic? It
> would be imho very interesting to summarize decisions, important changes, and
> so on.

It has been tried by GC some time ago (Cooker Weekly News) but it is very
time consuming..

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[Cooker] cooker traffic

2003-07-03 Thread dams

Proposal : what about setting up a cooker traffic? like kernel traffic? It
would be imho very interesting to summarize decisions, important changes, and
so on.

We could also add a status sections, which tells if cooker is installable, mkcd
is working, urpmi is working, ...

It would be also usefull for the guys going in vacations and coming back with
1000 cooker mails to read.

The bad news is that I personnally don't have enough time to handle this :/ We
should find 1 or 2 people responsible of it, and some people per sections of
this mailing.

well, ideas and volunteers welcomed...

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Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select

2003-07-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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Levi Ramsey wrote:
> On Wed Jul 02 19:54 -0700, Duncan wrote:
>
> Even if I wasn't making mdk rpms, I'd never do this.  Having to use
> either option indicates a bug

I agree. At present the only packages that you should have forced are
the gcc-3.3 related packages if you had OpenOffice.org installed.

BTW, my machine is mostly up-to-date with the local mirror, by running
my update script from cron, which you can find somewhere on my site
(http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake).

> (especially when its use is required for
> an extended period of time... we've had totally broken perl dependencies
> because of rpm-4.2 for at least a month now).
>

I don't agree. rpm has found a lot of perl packages that were in contrib
and used by some other package that is in main.

The regex is bad, and needs to be fixed, but there really aren't that
many packages that have non-existent perl requires. It is worthwhile
filing bugs on these packages so we know which ones need to be rebuilt
when the find-requires is updated (unless someone can show how to do it
with urpm?).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] libre software meeting

2003-07-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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Levi Ramsey wrote:
> On Wed Jul 02 23:55 -0400, Austin wrote:
>
>>On 2003.07.02 20:30, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
>>
>>>Next year, july 2004, Libre Software Meeting come back to Bordeaux
>>>where it is born in 2000. (This was my idea in late 1999 and we did it !)
>>>It could be an official cooker meeting.
>>
>>That would be cool.  If I have a year to plan for it, I might be able to
>>make it.  I should be getting my Ph.D. around that time, and Bordeaux
>>sounds like a great place to celebrate... :-)
>
>
> Looks like I'll be spending a lot of time in Europe next year... ;o)
>

I will miss this year's by a good couple of weeks, but I should be able
to make next year's ... if we can plan far ahead enough (a month or 3).

Regards,
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Re: [Cooker]

2003-07-03 Thread Duncan
On Sat 28 Jun 2003 19:07, Han Boetes posted as excerpted below:
> Hi,
>
> Incase you missed it:
>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3509550&thesection=technology&thesubsection=comment&thesecondsubsecti

FWIW, everything past the storyID number in the URL is extraneous, so it can 
be omitted for a shorter link:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3509550

Interesting "Linux Newbie from MS" story.  Short and sweet.  Not to heavy on 
detail, but makes the point that Linux (Mandrake) is worth a second look, 
both because it's free to try, and because of all the free apps that come 
with it.  It'd be interesting to see what he thinks 30, 90, and 180 days in.  
Will he take to it easily, or reject it at some point as the novelty wears 
off and he goes back to what is familiar and therefore easy for him?  Will 
he, as I did by 90 days, find Windows is now the one he feels limited in?

He did make the point that it's nice to have a "Linux missionary" lighting the 
way for first install, and that if you are on MS and don't know what Defrag 
is, Linux may not be for you.  I'd add that in that case, neither is 
MSWormOS, really, as you could be SOL if something goes wrong pretty easily 
on either, unless you are just a user and someone else is doing the admin, in 
which case it doesn't make much difference as you can be a simple user on 
either with little difference in difficulty, at that level.  I'd also add 
that if you are installing MSWormOS and trying to make IT dual boot, you will 
need an even BETTER missionary helping you with it.  The only way MSWormOS is 
easier to install any more is if you don't HAVE to, which as luck would have 
it is the case in the majority of instances, but that's beginning to change, 
slowly, as Linux machines are available off the shelf, now, in a significant 
number of stores, at least, meaning we've already come a long way in that 
regard.

What gets me is the prediction (not in the article, but since the topic is 
going this way) that Linux will surpass Mac this year or early next.  That's 
a pretty big step, right there, if you think about it.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4134] [man-pages-fr] New: file conflict

2003-07-03 Thread [manu]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4134

   Product: man-pages-fr
 Component: packaging
   Summary: file conflict
   Product: man-pages-fr
   Version: 0.9.7-13mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


the 0.9.7-13 package has a file conflict with  rpm-4.2-8mdk:: 
 
 file /usr/share/man/fr/man8/rpm.8.bz2 from install of rpm-4.2-8mdk conflicts with 
file 
from package man-pages-fr-0.9.7-13mdk

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