Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Andrey Borzenkov

 I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me the
 9.1 distro kernel does not include APM support -- is this correct?

no.

 If so, does it mean I _must_ build a custom kernel for a laptop?

it depends. For a start you may try to boot with acpi=off.

-andrey




[Cooker] For 9.2 - automatic update notification

2003-07-15 Thread Andrey Borzenkov


found on a.o.l.m. Should not be as hard to implement - basically
amounts to urpmi.update + check if urpmi --auto-select returns
anything + special check for new kernel. This all could definitely
be packed in one perl script

==

Is there a way to get Mandrake Update to automatically check for updates 
  and then display a notification or send a mail/message to tell me. It 
gets a bit boring running M.U. only to find nothing there ;-)  The 
RedHat notification tool is a perfect example but I haven't seen 
anything similar for MDrake





Re: [Cooker] [BUG?] gcc-3.3.1-0.2mdk breaks kernel

2003-07-15 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
Hi,

More info: 2.4.22-pre5 hangs the same, but it works compiled just
at -O1 optimization level. So it all smells to a bug in current gcc
optmizer, -O2 breaks and -O1 works.
Try to build with -fno-vrp and/or -fno-strict-aliasing.

Bye,
Gwenole.



[Cooker] [Bug 4188] [file] Needs rebuild for devel provides

2003-07-15 Thread [ben]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4188


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This package doesn't require any devel packages.  Requires would be exactly the
same if rebuilt.

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[Cooker] resend:Re: [CHRPM] metacity-2.5.2-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Draheim
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:30:52 +0200 (CEST)
Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --=-=-=
 Name: metacity Relocations: (not
 relocateable) Version : 2.5.2 Vendor:

forgive my ignorance, but is there any way to get around that topborder
constraint without patching the thing? If yes, please enlighten me. If
no, could that please be patched or at least could a patch be included
in the src.rpm so that people can get rid of that rather unusual
feature? I did patch metacity some months ago and told so on the list,
now people ask /me/ for patches. But I'm not into wm coding, so I'm
rather reluctant to give away patches that I made up in a hurry. I
honestly admit that I have no idea what I'm doing with these patches.

Nevertheless, I attach my own petty attempt at restoring expected wm
behaviour. I'd be glad, if someone would review it and tell me how to
improve it. The patch works okay here, and it enables me to use metacity
on my 800x600 laptop LCD.

Mark


--- metacity-2.5.2/src/constraints.c.sani   2003-05-16 17:52:43.0 +0200
+++ metacity-2.5.2/src/constraints.c2003-07-11 20:24:55.0 +0200
@@ -360,7 +360,7 @@
 *rightmost_x = info-se_x - MIN (TITLEBAR_LENGTH_ONSCREEN, orig-width);
 
   if (topmost_y)
-*topmost_y = info-nw_y + info-fgeom.top_height;
+*topmost_y = info-nw_y - orig-height + 5 ;
 
   if (bottommost_y)
 {



[Cooker] OpenOffice.org 1.1 RC

2003-07-15 Thread Levi Ramsey
Is there any timeframe on when we'll be seeing OO.org 1.1 (which has
support for new gcc) in cooker?

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[Cooker] auto-login paints me into an IceWM corner

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy

I selected autologin (since it's a personal laptop) and I selected
IceWM, but this seems to have painted me into a corner -- DrakConf
lets me select autologin to Gnome, but the configuration change
has no effect, autologin still goes into IceWM.

A possible oversight in the config? How do I switch back to Gnome?

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Re: [Cooker] PCMCIA Linksys WPC11 should be a prism2_cs

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy

Even with the change to set that signature to prism2_cs and adding
alias wlan0 prism2_cs to /etc/modules.conf, the prism2_cs module will
load, but stays inactive and does not create the wlan0 interface.

Also, swapping the card out and re-inserting it does not trigger
cardmgr to re-load.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4144] [lbreakout2] Binaries in wrong location

2003-07-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4144


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fixed in 3mdk

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Re: [Cooker] auto-login paints me into an IceWM corner

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
The fix is to hand-edit ~/.desktop to set the desk to GNOME, but I
think it's still a bug if people can't do this through the normal
admin tools.

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Re: [Cooker] resend:Re: [CHRPM] metacity-2.5.2-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:41:28 +0200, Mark Draheim wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 
 --Multipart_Tue__15_Jul_2003_08:41:28_+0200_08367b48
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:30:52 +0200 (CEST)
 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 --=-=-=
 Name: metacity Relocations: (not
 relocateable) Version : 2.5.2 Vendor:
 
 forgive my ignorance, but is there any way to get around that topborder
 constraint without patching the thing? If yes, please enlighten me. If
 no, could that please be patched or at least could a patch be included
 in the src.rpm so that people can get rid of that rather unusual
 feature? I did patch metacity some months ago and told so on the list,
 now people ask /me/ for patches. But I'm not into wm coding, so I'm
 rather reluctant to give away patches that I made up in a hurry. I
 honestly admit that I have no idea what I'm doing with these patches.

I don't think it is possible without patching and I won't integrate such a
patch.. If you want the feature, fill a bug on bugzilla.gnome.org and see
what Havoc has to say about it..

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Strange Perl-GTK2 packages

2003-07-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thierry was going to post a new rpmdrake ported to perl-Gtk2 last
 week, I guess he didn't finish.  It shouldn't be too long.

well, as you can see in latest drakxtools changelog, i was busy on
other subjects :-)

don't worry, i've worked on rpmdrake too




Re: [Cooker] Error in kdesdk-3.1.2-6mdk.src.rpm spec file when building for 9.1 (Second Try)

2003-07-15 Thread Laurent Montel
Le Tuesday 15 July 2003 05:10, AAW a écrit :
 Reposted due to server being down.

 Rebuild fails when rebuilding for slightly cooked 9.1 system:
 kbabelsplash.cpp:61:28: kbabelsplash.moc: No such file or directory
 make[4]: *** [kbabelsplash.o] Error 1
 make[4]: Leaving directory
 `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2/kbabel/kbabeldict'
 make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2/kbabel/kbabeldict'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2/kbabel'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 error: Bad exit status from /home/one/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.12005 (%build)


 RPM build errors:
 Bad exit status from /home/one/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.12005 (%build)

 Solution:
 Change line 105 of the spec file from:
 %if %buildfor9_2
 to
 %if %buildfor9_2 || %buildfor9_1

 Arn

Ok I will fix it.
Regards.



[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] file-4.03-2mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:45:24AM +0200, Götz Waschk wrote:
 --=-=-=
 Name: file Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 4.03  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 2mdk  Build Date: Tue Jul 15 09:46:41 2003
 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: klama.mandrake.org
 Group   : File toolsSource RPM: (none)
 Size: 303962   License: BSD
 Packager: Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL : ftp://ftp.gw.com/mirrors/pub/unix/file/
 Summary : A utility for determining file types.
 Description :
 The file command is used to identify a particular file according to the
 type of data contained by the file.  File can identify many different
 file types, including ELF binaries, system libraries, RPM packages, and
 different graphics formats.
 
 You should install the file package, since the file command is such a
 useful utility.
 
 
 --=-=-=
 
 * Tue Jul 15 2003 Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.03-2mdk
 
 - rebuild for new rpm

Why'd you rebuild this?  I'm pretty sure it didn't need rebuilding.
Maybe I missed something.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] file-4.03-2mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:21:47AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
 Why'd you rebuild this?  I'm pretty sure it didn't need rebuilding.
 Maybe I missed something.

nm.  I missed that libmagic is built out of the same SRPM.

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[Cooker] Evolution 1.4.3? Two things . . .

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Fox
The Cooker version of Evolution is 1.40 and the latest release is 1.43

Also, after a fresh Cooker install - the URL links in an e-mail don't
launch a browser anymore.  I tried going into Gnome and setting the
default browser application without success.

Thx,
R.Fox

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[Cooker] [Bug 4188] [file] Needs rebuild for devel provides

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4188


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-07 09:32 ---
$ rpm -V libmagic1-devel-4.03-1mdk
Unsatisfied dependencies for libmagic1-devel-4.03-1mdk: libz.so

Did I use the wrong terminology?  Requires versus provides?

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[Cooker] [Bug 4188] [file] Needs rebuild for devel provides

2003-07-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4188


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No, you're right. Fixed in 2mdk.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4192] [xscreensaver] New: Package contains docs for hacks not included.

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4192

   Product: xscreensaver
 Component: packaging
   Summary: Package contains docs for hacks not included.
   Product: xscreensaver
   Version: 4.11-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


/usr/X11R6/man/man1/extrusion.1.bz2
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/xjack.1.bz2
/usr/share/control-center/screensavers/extrusion.xml
/usr/share/control-center/screensavers/xjack.xml

Since those hacks have been removed, these should be as well.

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Re: [Cooker] resend:Re: [CHRPM] metacity-2.5.2-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Draheim
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:02:20 +0200
Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I must have pushed the wrong button in sylpheed
sorry for spamming Frederic Crozat with this

 I don't think it is possible without patching and I won't integrate
 such a patch..

okay. I actually didn't expect it to get into cooker. Well, at least I
tried...

 If you want the feature, fill a bug on
 bugzilla.gnome.org and see what Havoc has to say about it..

sigh maybe I'll try this, but I just hate discussing policies. I think
it's a rather strange feature and people who've mailed me used much
stronger terms. The metacity guys obviously think it is an essential
feature, otherwise they wouldn't have hardcoded it into the wm.

I think I'll throw out a modified testing src.rpm first in order to
build my case. When discussing policies, and I fear the problem is
because of policy, there's nothing more convincing than dl numbers.

Mark







Re: [Cooker] squid-2.5.STABLE3

2003-07-15 Thread Florin
Norman Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 The latest squid-2.5.STABLE3 from http://www.squid-cache.org/ allows users
 to tied authentication with winbind for selective usergroups to access the
 web. This can be compiled
 with --enable-external-acl-helpers=winbind_group. Unfortunately this not
 available for squid-2.5.STABLE2-2 from cooker. Are there plans to upgrade
 the RPM in cooker with this particular option enabled?
 
 Regards,
 Norman

sure, I'll do it ASAP, 

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Re: [Cooker] Requires cyrus-sasl

2003-07-15 Thread Florin
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There are some packages that have a Requires: cyrus-sasl, but don't those things 
 really only require libsasl2?  cyrus-sasl would only actually be needed if you're 
 actually gonna use sasl authentication right?  Even in that case, would it even need 
 to be on every machine using sasl authentication?
 

Right ... you only need the libsasl requires ... 

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[Cooker] [Bug 4191] [man-pages] New: rpcgen.1.bz2 also belongs to glibc-2.3.2-5mdk

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4191

   Product: man-pages
 Component: packaging
   Summary: rpcgen.1.bz2 also belongs to glibc-2.3.2-5mdk
   Product: man-pages
   Version: 1.56-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


/usr/share/man/man1/rpcgen.1.bz2 belongs to both man-pages-1.56-2mdk and 
glibc-2.3.2-5mdk.

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xmmsao-0.6-1mdk

2003-07-15 Thread David Walser
Levi Ramsey wrote:
 For what it's worth, there seems to be a problem with ao and aRts
 (detailed in another thread), which causes crashes after a certain
 number of plays (even if you're outputting through, say, esd).  A
 stopgap solution seems to be to rm /usr/lib/libao2/libarts.*, though
 this will disable aRts output.

The problem isn't with them though.  It works fine on older Cooker, and I imagine 9.1. 
 I suspect glibc, but haven't verifyed that.  I'm going to try building libao as a 
static library and linking it into mpg321 and compiling it all with -g to see if gdb 
can help me (any better ideas?).




[Cooker] StarDict 2.2.1 released (but nonworking Stardict 1.31 in cooker)

2003-07-15 Thread Helge Hielscher
Hello,

I have read at http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1202 that a 
new version of Stardict has been released. Are there any planes to 
update stardict-1.31-4mdk.i586.rpm?

It might also be a good idea to put the GPLed dictionaries (available at 
http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php) into cooker too.

Regards,
Helge



[Cooker] [Bug 4194] [gimp1_3] New: Does not provide gimp

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4194

   Product: gimp1_3
 Component: packaging
   Summary: Does not provide gimp
   Product: gimp1_3
   Version: 1.3.9-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The form does not show the latest version, but this is valid in gimp1_3-1.3.14-2mdk.

Shouldn't this package provide gimp for things like xpcd-gimp-2.08-18mdk?
Unsatisfied dependencies for xpcd-gimp-2.08-18mdk: gimp = 1.2

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[Cooker] [Bug 4193] [faces] New: Bad perms on /usr/bin/faces

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4193

   Product: faces
 Component: packaging
   Summary: Bad perms on /usr/bin/faces
   Product: faces
   Version: 1.6.1-17mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


/usr/bin/faces does not have the read bit for all set.

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[Cooker] VMware 4.0 problems

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Fox
Lastest Cooker install.  After compiling the VMware stuff - I get the
following when I try to start it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ vmware
Found a previous instance of lock file
/tmp/vmware-rfox-4091.log.WRITELOCK. It will be removed automatically.
/usr//bin/vmware: line 185:  6010 Floating point exception(core dumped)
$binary $@


Thx,
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Re: [Cooker] Evolution 1.4.3? Two things . . .

2003-07-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:48:03 +0100, Robert Fox wrote:

 The Cooker version of Evolution is 1.40 and the latest release is 1.43

And what do you thing we were doing last week ? Rebuilding cooker to allow
packages to be updated, such as evolution, which can't be built at the
moment..

 Also, after a fresh Cooker install - the URL links in an e-mail don't
 launch a browser anymore.  I tried going into Gnome and setting the
 default browser application without success.

Known.. There is even a bug on qa.mandrakesoft.com

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Re: [Cooker] resend:Re: [CHRPM] metacity-2.5.2-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:48:41 +0200, Mark Draheim wrote:

 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:02:20 +0200
 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 If you want the feature, fill a bug on
 bugzilla.gnome.org and see what Havoc has to say about it..
 
 sigh maybe I'll try this, but I just hate discussing policies. I think
 it's a rather strange feature and people who've mailed me used much
 stronger terms. The metacity guys obviously think it is an essential
 feature, otherwise they wouldn't have hardcoded it into the wm.

I asked you to fill a bug report because this behaviour is not part of
rationnale.txt file from metacity which links to most of the features
requested by some users.. So it seems it hasn't been dealt with (or I
haven't found the bug number..)

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[Cooker] [Bug 4192] [xscreensaver] Package contains docs for hacks not included.

2003-07-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4192


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fixed in 3mdk.

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/usr/X11R6/man/man1/extrusion.1.bz2
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/xjack.1.bz2
/usr/share/control-center/screensavers/extrusion.xml
/usr/share/control-center/screensavers/xjack.xml

Since those hacks have been removed, these should be as well.



[Cooker] [Bug 4196] [mozilla] New: mozilla-livehttpheaders needs to be rebuilt against this

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4196

   Product: mozilla
 Component: packaging
   Summary: mozilla-livehttpheaders needs to be rebuilt against this
   Product: mozilla
   Version: 1.4-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sorry, but mozilla-livehttpheaders was not in the package list.

Anyway, mozilla-livehttpheaders requires mozilla = 1.4-1mdk.  Needs a rebuild.

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Re: [Cooker] VMware 4.0 problems

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Picton
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:47, Robert Fox wrote:
 Lastest Cooker install.  After compiling the VMware stuff - I get the
 following when I try to start it:
 
No problems here - vmware runs fine:

aleph-null:~# urpmi --auto-select --auto
Everything already installed

aleph-null:~# rpm -qa | grep kernel
kernel-source-2.4.21-3mdk
kernel-2.4.21.3mdk-1-1mdk
kernel-doc-2.4.21-3mdk

aleph-null:~# rpm -qa | grep -i vmware
VMwareWorkstation-4.0.0-4460



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[Cooker] Re: [Maintainers] packages to move from contrib to main

2003-07-15 Thread Warly
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 11:45:26PM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
 I'd like to propose that we start operating this distro in WiKi mode.
 
 IMHO these access controll restrictions are causing more trouble 
 (friction) than they do good.
 
 What we need is clear reporting on what has been going on (auditability) 
 and let people make the changes that are needed. Nobody benefits from 
 these requests being echoed in lists (first cooker, now maintainers) 
 untill some demi-god finally has the time to pick it up and execute the 
 change. We are not 4-year-olds anymore. Nobody that has access to these 
 systems is here to break things. In principle everything everybody does 
 on these systems is meant in a positive way.

 For that matter the separation between main and contrib is completely
 arbitrary and not useful anymore.  The only place the separation has any
 effect is on security updates.  And that is easily handled by just
 saying that only packages shipped on the CDs are supported for security
 updates.  But then as far as I'm concerned there should also be a way
 for contributors to update their packages for security issues (and no
 the club is not a solution to that).

IMNSHO:

- Separation between contrib and main is good.

It provides a clear way to separate packages by quality, usability and
usefulness.

- Restrictions in uploading/moving packages.

Most of the troubles you are talking about are my fault, not being
able to handle requests in time.

However, rpmctl should be my answer to this problem, it is currently
only in beta version but already allow packages removal from the
contributors, next step will be to do the upload part.

But, I do still have the weakness to think that in some way some 
kind of centralized power is good.

I agree that the contributors are not children and do not want in any
way anyhting but the good of the distro. However at some point someone
must have a overview of the distro and be in charge of maintaining the
whole thing in the good direction.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4194] [gimp1_3] Does not provide gimp

2003-07-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4194


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No, gimp and gimp1_3 are incompatible. xpcd-gimp needs the old gimp and doesn't
work with gimp1_3.

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The form does not show the latest version, but this is valid in gimp1_3-1.3.14-2mdk.

Shouldn't this package provide gimp for things like xpcd-gimp-2.08-18mdk?
Unsatisfied dependencies for xpcd-gimp-2.08-18mdk: gimp = 1.2



[Cooker] [Bug 4196] [mozilla] mozilla-livehttpheaders needs to be rebuilt against this

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4196


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Oops.  Adding CC to mozilla-livehttpheaders package maintainer...

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Sorry, but mozilla-livehttpheaders was not in the package list.

Anyway, mozilla-livehttpheaders requires mozilla = 1.4-1mdk.  Needs a rebuild.



Re: [Cooker] StarDict 2.2.1 released (but nonworking Stardict 1.31 in cooker)

2003-07-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-07-15(Tue) 11:07:33 +0200, Helge Hielscher wrote:
 
 I have read at http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1202 that a 
 new version of Stardict has been released. Are there any planes to 
 update stardict-1.31-4mdk.i586.rpm?

I'm working on that right now, and hopefully can submit them within 1-2
days, to anybody who has the power to upload packages.

Abel


 
 It might also be a good idea to put the GPLed dictionaries (available at 
 http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php) into cooker too.
 
 Regards,
 Helge
 
 

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[Cooker] [Bug 4195] [xpcd-gimp] New: Bad permissions on file

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4195

   Product: xpcd-gimp
 Component: packaging
   Summary: Bad permissions on file
   Product: xpcd-gimp
   Version: 2.08-18mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
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/usr/lib/gimp/1.2/plug-ins/xpcd-gate does not have the read bit set.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4196] [mozilla] mozilla-livehttpheaders needs to be rebuilt against this

2003-07-15 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4196


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-07 10:45 ---
This has nothing to do with mozilla package.

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Anyway, mozilla-livehttpheaders requires mozilla = 1.4-1mdk.  Needs a rebuild.



Re: [Cooker] Problem using smbmount since I updated my cooker

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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Pascal Terjan wrote:
 Hi, when mounting a shared directory I get :

 3443: session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad password -
 name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.)
 SMB connection failed

 I'm sure the password is right and it used to work until yesterday
 evening, when I updated my cooker. Any idea what could I do to find out
 the problem ?


Seems my original reply either got lost or is stuck in a mail queue
somewhere.

Yes, I tested with samba-client-2.2.8a-5mdk, which worked, upgraded to
2.2.8a-6mdk, which broke it. I will investigate.

In the meantime, install samba3-client from contrib, and you should be
able to:
smbmount3 //server/share mount point

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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 I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me the
 9.1 distro kernel

Of course, this is the wrong list for this question ...

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[Cooker] resend: New broadcom drivers

2003-07-15 Thread Jose Antonio Becerra Permuy
Broadcom is publishing some drivers in its website now.
The url is http://www.broadcom.com/docs/driver-download.html
The latest linux drivers in that page are:

BCM570x 6.2.11 (latest mandrake kernel has 6.0.2)
BCM4401 2.0.2 (latest mandrake kernel has 2.0.0)

I attached changelog for both.
Regards.




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Re: [Cooker] Error in kdebase-3.1.2-27mdk.src.rpm spec file (Second Try)

2003-07-15 Thread Laurent Montel
Le Tuesday 15 July 2003 05:28, Texstar a écrit :
 In addition source300 is listed twice

 install -m 0755 %SOURCE300 %buildroot/%_bindir/kdesktop-links --here

 install -m 0755 %SOURCE301 %buildroot/%_bindir/ArrangeIcons

 install -m 0755 %SOURCE302 %buildroot/%_bindir/test-windows-key

 install -m 0755 %SOURCE303 %buildroot/%_bindir/kdesktop-network

 install -m 0755 %SOURCE300 %buildroot/%_bindir/kdesktop-links --here


Fixed in new kdebase (not again uploaded)
Regards.

 Can someone also confirm that konqueror will not play a locally stored
 flash file?

I will look at it.


 Laurent will be back on Tuesday.




Re: [Cooker] VMware 4.0 problems

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Fox
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 10:09, Chris Picton wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:47, Robert Fox wrote:
  Lastest Cooker install.  After compiling the VMware stuff - I get the
  following when I try to start it:
  
 No problems here - vmware runs fine:
 
 aleph-null:~# urpmi --auto-select --auto
 Everything already installed
 
 aleph-null:~# rpm -qa | grep kernel
 kernel-source-2.4.21-3mdk
 kernel-2.4.21.3mdk-1-1mdk
 kernel-doc-2.4.21-3mdk
 
 aleph-null:~# rpm -qa | grep -i vmware
 VMwareWorkstation-4.0.0-4460

Strange - I have the exact same files as you - and on two different machines I get the 
same error as previously posted.

Thx anyway,
Robert




[Cooker] [Bug 2839] [skobo] Unneeded directory in package

2003-07-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2839


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-07 11:01 ---
fixed in 8mdk, please test

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separately (per user) in /var/lib/games/skobo/.
Example: /var/lib/games/skobo/LNK.502 and /var/lib/games/skobo/RHR.501



Re: [Cooker] Error in kdesdk-3.1.2-6mdk.src.rpm spec file when building for 9.1 (Second Try)

2003-07-15 Thread Laurent Montel
Le Tuesday 15 July 2003 05:10, AAW a écrit :
 Reposted due to server being down.

 Rebuild fails when rebuilding for slightly cooked 9.1 system:
 kbabelsplash.cpp:61:28: kbabelsplash.moc: No such file or directory
 make[4]: *** [kbabelsplash.o] Error 1
 make[4]: Leaving directory
 `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2/kbabel/kbabeldict'
 make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2/kbabel/kbabeldict'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2/kbabel'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/one/rpm/BUILD/kdesdk-3.1.2'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 error: Bad exit status from /home/one/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.12005 (%build)


 RPM build errors:
 Bad exit status from /home/one/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.12005 (%build)

 Solution:
 Change line 105 of the spec file from:
 %if %buildfor9_2
 to
 %if %buildfor9_2 || %buildfor9_1

 Arn

Fixed thanks



[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdemultimedia-3.1.2-8mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Laurent,

Are you aware that the (non-devel) kdemultimedia package still has some 
devel() Requires? Users that are installing will be forced to install 
these devel packages, which can comsume quite some disk space.

$ rpm -qpR 
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdemultimedia-3.1.2-8mdk.i586.rpm  | 
grep devel
devel(libX11)
devel(libXext)
devel(libdl)
devel(libgcc_s)
devel(libm)
devel(libmpeg-0.3.0)
devel(libogg)
devel(libstdc++)
devel(libvorbis)
devel(libvorbisfile)

Can you consider moving the .so files that are a symlink to the -devel 
package? Same applies to other KDE packages.

with kind regards,

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gtkglarea2-1.99.0-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:01:12 +0200 (CEST)
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --=-=-=
 Name: gtkglarea2   Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 1.99.0Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 3mdk  Build Date: Tue Jul 15 10:45:44 2003
[...]

 Related project which may iterest those who use GTK-- is GtkGLArea--.

There is a typo in the description, s/iterest/interest.
This sentence may have to be rewritten a bit, for example : A related project which 
may interest GTK-- users is GtkGlArea--.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4196] [mozilla] mozilla-livehttpheaders needs to be rebuilt against this

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4196





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-07 11:16 ---
I'm well aware that this has nothing to do with the mozilla package.  As I said, 
mozilla-livehttpheaders is not in the package list.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4197] [ntp] New: add pool.ntp.org to /etc/ntp.conf (and /etc/ntp/step-tickers)

2003-07-15 Thread [Christian]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4197

   Product: ntp
 Component: packaging
   Summary: add pool.ntp.org to /etc/ntp.conf (and /etc/ntp/step-
tickers)
   Product: ntp
   Version: 4.1.1-4mdk
  Platform: All
   URL: http://fortytwo.ch/time/
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


pool.ntp.org is a round-robin-DNS address for public NTP servers.
You may even use continental zone aliases like: ch.pool.ntp.org or
europe.pool.ntp.org

see attached URL for more details

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] drwright-0.17-1mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-07-15(Tue) 12:30:39 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 [Contrib-RPM]
 Name: drwright Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 0.17  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Tue Jul 15 12:01:46 2003
 --=-=-=
 * Tue Jul 15 2003 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 0.17-1mdk

Fred, this package can be retired now, or just wait till cooker has newer
gnome-control-center?

Abel


 
 - Release 0.17
 - Patch0 (CVS): fix compilation with gcc 3.3
 

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Re: [Cooker] resend:Re: [CHRPM] metacity-2.5.2-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Draheim
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:57:50 +0200
Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I asked you to fill a bug report because this behaviour is not part of
 rationnale.txt file from metacity which links to most of the features
 requested by some users.. So it seems it hasn't been dealt with (or I
 haven't found the bug number..)

alright, thanks

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-October/msg00281.html

since that time metacity and especially the contraints code has been
changed significantly. The constraint itself is still there and pretty
much obvious to see for anybody.

Even if the behaviour was as Havoc thought it was, ie windows should be
allowed to go off the top screen until the lower end of the window is
visible, it's still takes away the option to move windows
wherever the user wants. One of the people requesting a patch just
wanted to place two xterms on top of each other. They almost fit the
screen but for the titlebar of the upper xterm. In that case metacity
would prevent moving the window off the top because the window is
already completely on screen. Anyway, in my experience metacity
prevented going off top regardless of how big the window was.

Sorry to bother you with speeches. I know I should post this to the
metacity folks. It's just that I still get mad at that feature.

 PS: please, don't cc people when responding on list..

I didn't cc, it was an error (wrong button), sorry for this

Mark





Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4197] [ntp] New: add pool.ntp.org to /etc/ntp.conf (and /etc/ntp/step-tickers)

2003-07-15 Thread Christian Bricart
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 05:38:17AM -0400, [Christian] wrote:
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4197
 
Product: ntp
  Component: packaging
Summary: add pool.ntp.org to /etc/ntp.conf (and /etc/ntp/step-
 tickers)
Product: ntp
Version: 4.1.1-4mdk
   Platform: All
URL: http://fortytwo.ch/time/

How do I link this issue both to ntp and DrakX, as
gi/perl-install/timezone.pm handles /etc/ntp.conf, too..?

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[Cooker] [Bug 2839] [skobo] Unneeded directory in package

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2839





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-07 12:36 ---
For some reason, it won't even run now:
WARNING: Failed to get hardware screen surface.Switching to SINGLE buffer mode.
Loaded script /usr/share/games/kobo-deluxe/sfx/sfx.agw. (Handle 0
Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)

How did the binary name change, anyway?  It's still the same tarball, right?

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Example: /var/lib/games/skobo/LNK.502 and /var/lib/games/skobo/RHR.501



[Cooker] apache user not created by default

2003-07-15 Thread lamikr_mdk
Hi

I installed yesterday a fresh cooker by using network installation
method. While I tried to start apache daemon, I get following error:
# /etc/init.d/httpd start
Starting httpd2: httpd2: bad user name apache
I checked the list of users (and system users) and there was not an user
called apache. So it seems that the Mandrake/apache installation did not
create an apache-user. rpm -qa | grep apache will give following output.
# rpm -qa | grep apache
apache2-mod_ssl-2.0.47-1mdk
apache2-2.0.47-1mdk
apache2-common-2.0.47-1mdk
apache2-mod_perl-2.0.47_1.99_09-1mdk
apache-conf-2.0.47-2mdk
apache2-mod_suexec-2.0.47-1mdk
apache2-modules-2.0.47-1mdk
If I create apache user manually, what should I set for the home
location and shell?
Mika





[Cooker] /etc/init.d/saslauthd script error

2003-07-15 Thread lamikr_mdk
While installing postfix, saslauthd and cyrus-imap I noticed one
error in the /etc/init.d/saslauthd which prevents it to start.
It seems that saslauthd-daemon does not understand parameter -T.
man pages say, that this parameter is optional and only some systems
support it.
I believe that the error can be fixed/worked around by removing the
following lines from the /etc/init.d/saslauthd (lines 27 - 30)
if echo $SASL_TIME_OF_DAY_LOGIN_RESTRICTIONS \
| grep -q '^[Yy][Ee]\?[Ss]\?$' ; then
SASLAUTHD_OPTS=$SASLAUTHD_OPTS -T
fi
The version of saslauthd I have is saslauthd 2.1.13.

#rpm -qa | grep sasl
cyrus-sasl-2.1.13-2mdk
libsasl2-plug-sasldb-2.1.13-3mdk
libsasl2-2.1.13-3mdk
libsasl2-plug-login-2.1.13-3mdk
libsasl7-1.5.28-7mdk
libsasl2-plug-plain-2.1.13-3mdk
Mika





Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gtkglarea2-1.99.0-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003, 12:52:07 Uhr MET, schrieb Olivier Blin:
 There is a typo in the description, s/iterest/interest.
 This sentence may have to be rewritten a bit, for example : A related project which 
 may interest GTK-- users is GtkGlArea--.

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Re: [Cooker] VMware 4.0 problems

2003-07-15 Thread Bernard Varaine
Do you have  galaxy-gnome installed ?

It did cause me problems, removed it and works fine..

did not really have time to investigate further..

BErnard

Robert Fox wrote:
 Lastest Cooker install.  After compiling the VMware stuff - I get the
 following when I try to start it:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ vmware
 Found a previous instance of lock file
 /tmp/vmware-rfox-4091.log.WRITELOCK. It will be removed automatically.
 /usr//bin/vmware: line 185:  6010 Floating point exception(core dumped)
 $binary $@
 
 
 Thx,
 R.Fox

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[Cooker] glibc not building on alpha bug in rpm -qpR

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Glibc is holding back quite some builds on the alpha. What do you make 
of the errors in this buildoutput?

http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/alpha/glibc-2.3.2-5mdk

I don't have a comparison on i586.

rpm -qpR glibc-2.3.2-5mdk.src.rpm doesn't include gd-devel, while at 
build time it is required. That's why:
http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/i586/glibc-2.3.2-5mdk

I guess some bug in the mechanism to get the BuildRequires out of a 
package with rpm -qpR. Where is gd-devel?:

$ rpm -qpR /mirrors/cooker/SRPMS/glibc-2.3.2-5mdk.src.rpm | sort
binutils = 2.13.90.0.18-2mdk
gcc = 2.96-0.50mdk
gettext
patch
perl
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1
tetex
tetex-latex
texinfo
But there in glibc.spec:

# Define to bootstrap new glibc
%define build_bootstrap 0
%define build_profile   1
%define build_nscd  1
%define build_doc   1
*%define build_utils1*
%define build_i18ndata  1
%define build_timezone  1
# Disable a few defaults when cross-compiling a glibc
%if %{name} != glibc
%define build_doc   0
%define build_pdf_doc   0
%define build_biarch0
%define build_check 0
%define build_debug 0
%define build_nscd  0
%define build_profile   0
*%define build_utils0*
%define build_i18ndata  0
%define build_timezone  0
%endif
# Allow --with[out] feature at rpm command line build
%{expand: %{?_without_PDF:  %%global build_pdf_doc 0}}
%{expand: %{?_without_CHECK:%%global build_check 0}}
*%{expand: %{?_without_UTILS:   %%global build_utils 0}}*
%{expand: %{?_without_BOOTSTRAP:%%global build_bootstrap 0}}
%{expand: %{?_with_PDF: %%global build_pdf_doc 1}}
%{expand: %{?_with_CHECK:   %%global build_check 1}}
*%{expand: %{?_with_UTILS:  %%global build_utils 1}}*
%{expand: %{?_with_BOOTSTRAP:   %%global build_bootstrap 1}}
I guess rpm -qpR takes the define from the cross-compiling section...

regards,

Stefan


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Re: [Cooker] /etc/init.d/saslauthd script error

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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lamikr_mdk wrote:
 While installing postfix, saslauthd and cyrus-imap I noticed one
 error in the /etc/init.d/saslauthd which prevents it to start.

 It seems that saslauthd-daemon does not understand parameter -T.
 man pages say, that this parameter is optional and only some systems
 support it.

 I believe that the error can be fixed/worked around by removing the
 following lines from the /etc/init.d/saslauthd (lines 27 - 30)

 if echo $SASL_TIME_OF_DAY_LOGIN_RESTRICTIONS \
 | grep -q '^[Yy][Ee]\?[Ss]\?$' ; then
 SASLAUTHD_OPTS=$SASLAUTHD_OPTS -T
 fi


Or, you could just change:
SASL_TIME_OF_DAY_LOGIN_RESTRICTIONS=yes
to
SASL_TIME_OF_DAY_LOGIN_RESTRICTIONS=no
(or anything besides yes/Yes/YEs/YES/yES/yeS/ etc really) in
/etc/sysconfig/saslauthd

The fact that provision was made for the flag means it probably worked
at some time, which means that it would be more productive to get it
fixed instead ...

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdemultimedia-3.1.2-8mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Laurent Montel
Le Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:22, Stefan van der Eijk a écrit :
 Laurent,

 Are you aware that the (non-devel) kdemultimedia package still has some
 devel() Requires? Users that are installing will be forced to install
 these devel packages, which can comsume quite some disk space.

Yes I know
See all other kde commit.
But I have a problem with kdemultimedia.
Not fixed for the moment.

 $ rpm -qpR
 /mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdemultimedia-3.1.2-8mdk.i586.rpm  |
 grep devel
 devel(libX11)
 devel(libXext)
 devel(libdl)
 devel(libgcc_s)
 devel(libm)
 devel(libmpeg-0.3.0)
 devel(libogg)
 devel(libstdc++)
 devel(libvorbis)
 devel(libvorbisfile)

 Can you consider moving the .so files that are a symlink to the -devel
 package? Same applies to other KDE packages.

 with kind regards,

 Stefan van der Ejk



Re: [Cooker] VMware 4.0 problems

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Misner
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 07:14 am, Robert Fox wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 10:09, Chris Picton wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:47, Robert Fox wrote:
   Lastest Cooker install.  After compiling the VMware stuff - I get the
   following when I try to start it:
 
  No problems here - vmware runs fine:
 
  aleph-null:~# urpmi --auto-select --auto
  Everything already installed
 
  aleph-null:~# rpm -qa | grep kernel
  kernel-source-2.4.21-3mdk
  kernel-2.4.21.3mdk-1-1mdk
  kernel-doc-2.4.21-3mdk
 
  aleph-null:~# rpm -qa | grep -i vmware
  VMwareWorkstation-4.0.0-4460

 Strange - I have the exact same files as you - and on two different
 machines I get the same error as previously posted.

 Thx anyway,
 Robert

I believe the problem is compiling the VMWare interface with the latest GCC.  
If you didn't need to compile it (run vmware-config.pl) after the update, 
then you don't see the problem.  My computer has this error currently.

Paul Misner




Re: [Cooker] split lists?

2003-07-15 Thread Warly
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Warly, you have mentioned this before, is it worthwhile doing?

IMNSHO:

- I have no problem with the current cooker.

- 500 mails a day is about 2 MB, which represents 5 min of a 56k modem
connection. However the bandwith argument is still valid to my mind.

- I agree that some people have various interests and are not
interested in such or such topics.

- You are the guys who participate to cooker freely as an help to
Mandrakesoft, and it should be at your convenience to decide what to
do (however we can consider that this a community stuff that should be
decided by all the active contributors)

- I agree that multiple list will favor crosspost of people not knowing
where to ask.

- I agree that more mails will be missed because KDE team will not go
the installation list checking if there is some stuff for them and
vice et versa (bad example ? :).

- I do not agree with the bugzilla mails having a special list, nobody
will cc to the bug nor read the bugs ml, even if the bug is first sent
to cooker. I think that the bugs comments are part of the general
discussion on the developement, and should be considered as equivalent
to cooker thread.

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[Cooker] [Bug 2839] [skobo] Unneeded directory in package

2003-07-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2839





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-07 13:15 ---
I think I've fixed the problem in 10mdk. sfx.agw contains and include directive
for the header file I've removed in 8mdk.
The binary name changed on the move to dir /usr/games, because the spec file
contained a command to rename something in /usr/bin. I'll just leave it as it is.

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Example: /var/lib/games/skobo/LNK.502 and /var/lib/games/skobo/RHR.501



[Cooker] Re: Requires cyrus-sasl

2003-07-15 Thread David Walser
Florin wrote:
 David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 There are some packages that have a Requires: cyrus-sasl, but don't those things 
 really only require libsasl2?  cyrus-sasl would only actually be needed if you're 
 actually gonna use sasl authentication right?  Even in that case, would it even 
 need to be on every machine using sasl authentication?
 
 
 Right ... you only need the libsasl requires ... 

Thanks Florin.  Well I know at the least postfix and sendmail need to be fixed.

Anyone know of any others?




Re: [Cooker] VMware 4.0 problems - CONFIRMED solution

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Fox
I confirm that after removing galaxy-gnome package the VMware works now!


Thx,
R.Fox


On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:42, Bernard Varaine wrote:
 Do you have  galaxy-gnome installed ?
 
 It did cause me problems, removed it and works fine..
 
 did not really have time to investigate further..
 
 BErnard
 
 Robert Fox wrote:
  Lastest Cooker install.  After compiling the VMware stuff - I get the
  following when I try to start it:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ vmware
  Found a previous instance of lock file
  /tmp/vmware-rfox-4091.log.WRITELOCK. It will be removed automatically.
  /usr//bin/vmware: line 185:  6010 Floating point exception(core dumped)
  $binary $@
  
  
  Thx,
  R.Fox




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] drwright-0.17-1mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:44:14 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote:

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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Disposition: inline
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 On 2003-07-15(Tue) 12:30:39 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 [Contrib-RPM]
 Name: drwright Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 0.17  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Tue Jul 15 12:01:=
 46 2003
 --=3D-=3D-=3D
 * Tue Jul 15 2003 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 0.17-1mdk
 
 Fred, this package can be retired now, or just wait till cooker has newer
 gnome-control-center?

drwright is still not fully merged in control-center..

But don't worry, I'll obsolete it when it is done..

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[Cooker] gphoto2 broken?

2003-07-15 Thread Michael Reinsch
Hi!

Currently my digital camera (Kodak CX4230, USB) is no longer detected by
gphoto2. This used to work quite well, but stopped a few days ago. Can
someone confirm this? Or is this working for everybody else?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Requires cyrus-sasl

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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David Walser wrote:

 Thanks Florin.  Well I know at the least postfix and sendmail need to
be fixed.

 Anyone know of any others?


AFAIK, postfix and sendmail should work as soon as openldap is built
against sasl2, which IIRC requires openldap-2.1.x (but I could be wrong).

$ rpm -qRp libldap2-2.0.27-8mdk.i586.rpm |grep sasl
libsasl.so.7

$ rpm -qRp postfix-2.0.12-3mdk.i586.rpm |grep sasl
cyrus-sasl
libsasl2.so.2

Sendmail -4mdk should be linked to sasl2.so.2 if I read Oden's changelog
right.

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] Re: Re: Requires cyrus-sasl

2003-07-15 Thread David Walser
Buchan Milne wrote:

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 David Walser wrote:
 
 Thanks Florin.  Well I know at the least postfix and sendmail need to
 be fixed.

 Anyone know of any others?

 
 AFAIK, postfix and sendmail should work as soon as openldap is built
 against sasl2, which IIRC requires openldap-2.1.x (but I could be wrong).
 
 $ rpm -qRp libldap2-2.0.27-8mdk.i586.rpm |grep sasl
 libsasl.so.7
 
 $ rpm -qRp postfix-2.0.12-3mdk.i586.rpm |grep sasl
 cyrus-sasl

That shouldn't be there.

 libsasl2.so.2
 
 Sendmail -4mdk should be linked to sasl2.so.2 if I read Oden's changelog
 right.

Well that's good, but this isn't what I was talking about here.

postfix and sendmail (and maybe others?) have Requires: cyrus-sasl in their spec 
files.  This is incorrect and needs to be removed.




[Cooker] [Bug 2839] [skobo] Unneeded directory in package

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2839





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-15-07 14:30 ---
It's still broken.  I went to see if there's some issue with it possibly related to 
our new gcc and found the url has changed.  http://olofson.net/kobodl
Anyway, I know you are busy and this is only a game.  I'll see what I can do...

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Example: /var/lib/games/skobo/LNK.502 and /var/lib/games/skobo/RHR.501



Re: [Cooker] glibc not building on alpha bug in rpm -qpR

2003-07-15 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mardi 15 Juillet 2003 13:36, Stefan van der Eijk a écrit :
 Glibc is holding back quite some builds on the alpha. What do you make
 of the errors in this buildoutput?

I have another error on ppc, it seems memusage during %install stage.
Else all other things works fine.


 http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/alpha/glibc-2.3.2-5mdk

 I don't have a comparison on i586.

 rpm -qpR glibc-2.3.2-5mdk.src.rpm doesn't include gd-devel, while at
 build time it is required. That's why:
 http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/i586/glibc-2.3.2-5mdk

 I guess some bug in the mechanism to get the BuildRequires out of a
 package with rpm -qpR. Where is gd-devel?:

 $ rpm -qpR /mirrors/cooker/SRPMS/glibc-2.3.2-5mdk.src.rpm | sort
 binutils = 2.13.90.0.18-2mdk
 gcc = 2.96-0.50mdk
 gettext
 patch
 perl
 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1
 rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1
 tetex
 tetex-latex
 texinfo


 But there in glibc.spec:

 # Define to bootstrap new glibc
 %define build_bootstrap   0

 %define build_profile 1
 %define build_nscd1
 %define build_doc 1
 *%define build_utils  1*
 %define build_i18ndata1
 %define build_timezone1

 # Disable a few defaults when cross-compiling a glibc
 %if %{name} != glibc
 %define build_doc 0
 %define build_pdf_doc 0
 %define build_biarch  0
 %define build_check   0
 %define build_debug   0
 %define build_nscd0
 %define build_profile 0
 *%define build_utils  0*
 %define build_i18ndata0
 %define build_timezone0
 %endif

 # Allow --with[out] feature at rpm command line build
 %{expand: %{?_without_PDF:%%global build_pdf_doc 0}}
 %{expand: %{?_without_CHECK:  %%global build_check 0}}
 *%{expand: %{?_without_UTILS: %%global build_utils 0}}*
 %{expand: %{?_without_BOOTSTRAP:%%global build_bootstrap 0}}
 %{expand: %{?_with_PDF:   %%global build_pdf_doc 1}}
 %{expand: %{?_with_CHECK: %%global build_check 1}}
 *%{expand: %{?_with_UTILS:%%global build_utils 1}}*
 %{expand: %{?_with_BOOTSTRAP: %%global build_bootstrap 1}}


 I guess rpm -qpR takes the define from the cross-compiling section...

 regards,

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[Cooker] Resend: Unbootable System since latest cooker updates

2003-07-15 Thread Serge Pluess
Sent this orignally on friday but it never made it through:

Hi

Current cooker system booted fine this morning.
then did my usual morning urpmi --auto-select ...  update of my 
cooker system and now I can't get it to boot regularly anymore. Lot's 
of error messages scrolling by and then the system just hangs. Just 
rebooted into failsafe mode and looking at the messages file.

bootsplash: Using deprecated v1 header. Updating your splash utility 
recommended
bootsplash: Find the latest version at 
ftp.suse.com/pub/people/stepan/bootsplash/

This following devfsd error message actually is re-occuring during 
that boot session

devfsd: Started device management daemon v1.3.25 for /dev
devfsd: error loading: 
/lib/security/pam_console_apply_devfsd.so^I/lib/security/pam_console_apply_devfsd.so: 
undefined symbol: pam_set_data

saslauthd: invalid option --T

numlock: /etc/rc3.d/S85numlock: line 25: /dev/tty[1-8]: No such file 
or directory

/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty1: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty2: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty3: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty4: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty5: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty6: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty1: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty2: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty3: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty4: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty5: No such file or directory
init: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty2: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty3: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty4: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty5: No such file or directory
/sbin/mingetty[17xx]: /dev/tty6: No such file or directory
init: Id 2 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
init: Id 3 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
init: Id 4 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
init: Id 5 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
init: Id 6 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
Greetings and thanks for any info/help.

SP

P.S. These are the packages that got updated this morning:

Jul 11 10:18:45 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libglib2.0_0-2.2.2-3mdk installed
Jul 11 10:18:59 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] 
libgnomeprintui2-2_0-2.2.1.3-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:01 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] pam-0.77-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:02 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libxine1-1-0.beta12.6mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:05 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gnome-desktop-2.3.3.1-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:06 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libsoup-1.99.23-2mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:07 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libwnck-2.3.1-2mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:08 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] glib-gettextize-2.2.2-3mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:11 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libglib2.0_0-devel-2.2.2-3mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:15 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] xine-plugins-1-0.beta12.6mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:16 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] xine-dvdnav-1-0.beta12.6mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:16 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libwnck-1_4-2.3.1-2mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:17 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libsoup-2.0_0-1.99.23-2mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:17 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] 
libgnome-desktop-2_2-2.3.3.1-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:20 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gnome-session-2.3.3.1-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:21 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gnome-audio-extra-2.0.0-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:22 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] xine-alsa-1-0.beta12.6mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:23 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] chkconfig-1.3.8-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:23 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] chkfontpath-1.9.10-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:24 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gnome-audio-2.0.0-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:24 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] ifplugd-0.15-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:25 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] 
kdebase-kdm-config-file-3.1.2-27mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:29 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] drakxtools-newt-9.2-0.13mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:29 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libgal2.0_3-1.99.8-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:31 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.13mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:33 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gal2.0-1.99.8-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:50 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] kdebase-3.1.2-27mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:51 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libgtkhtml-3.0_2-3.0.7-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:51 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] kdebase-kdm-3.1.2-27mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:53 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gtkhtml3.0-3.0.7-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:55 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gdm-2.4.2.96-1mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:57 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] harddrake-ui-9.2-0.13mdk installed
Jul 11 10:19:58 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] 
kdebase-kdm-config-file-3.1.2-26mdk removed
Jul 11 10:19:58 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libgal2.0_3-1.99.7-2mdk removed
Jul 11 10:20:00 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] gnome-desktop-2.3.3-3mdk removed
Jul 11 10:20:01 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] libglib2.0_0-2.2.2-2mdk removed
Jul 11 10:20:01 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] 

Re: [Cooker] Apache2-2.0.46 redirect

2003-07-15 Thread J.P. Pasnak
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  On June 20, 2003 15:14 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote:
   Has anyone else noticed that Apache2-2.0.46 does not redirect,
   specifically with 'mantis' - http://mantisbt.sourceforge.net
  
   Any hints?
 
  Well, I step back to 2.0.44, apply 2.0.45 updates, and all is
  well.   I guess 2.0.46 will have to stay off my dev box...

 Hi.

 Could you provide a working example where this fails?

I got it working now. It seems that Apache 2.0.46 (and 47) are a little 
more strict on header errors.   I didn't go down that path, since it 
was working in 2.0.45, I didn't figure it for a code error in mantis.

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Re: [Cooker] Resend: Unbootable System since latest cooker updates

2003-07-15 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
 devfsd: Started device management daemon v1.3.25 for /dev
devfsd: error loading: 
 /lib/security/pam_console_apply_devfsd.so^I/lib/security/pam_console_apply_devfsd.so:
  
 undefined symbol: pam_set_data

 numlock: /etc/rc3.d/S85numlock: line 25: /dev/tty[1-8]: No such file or directory

sure, without devfsd ...

 P.S. These are the packages that got updated this morning:

[...]
 Jul 11 10:19:01 athlon-sp perl: [RPM] pam-0.77-1mdk installed
[...]

thierry, fredl, does the devfsd_pam_console_apply patch no more applies? Or devfsd 
just has to be rebuilt with new pam?






[Cooker] [Bug 4189] [aspell] Needs a rebuild for devel provides

2003-07-15 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4189


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Fixed with aspell 0.50.3-3mdk

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Re: [Cooker] Resend: Unbootable System since latest cooker updates

2003-07-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 thierry, fredl, does the devfsd_pam_console_apply patch no more
 applies? Or devfsd just has to be rebuilt with new pam?

fred has released a broken pam, then a fixed pam.
i guess serge did an installation just between the two :-(

too sad ...




[Cooker] Re: Resend: Unbootable System since latest cooker updates

2003-07-15 Thread Serge Pluess
Hi again

I just want to report that after the newest urpmi --auto-select of 
this morning the system boots up normally again. Thank you.

Thought I would list here a couple of the error/warning messages that 
appear in the /var/log/messages file. Not sure what (if any) impact 
they have, but here they are for your information:

Jul 15 06:44:00 athlon-sp kernel: Looking for splash picture 
found (800x600, 25593 bytes, v1).
Jul 15 06:44:00 athlon-sp kernel: bootsplash: Using deprecated v1 
header. Updating your splash utility recommended.
Jul 15 06:44:00 athlon-sp kernel: bootsplash: Find the latest version 
at ftp.suse.com/pub/people/stepan/bootsplash/

This one has crept his way back. I know it was gone a while ago 
(Using Alsa with SB Live) Will search for that one in the 
archives/google :

Jul 15 06:44:01 athlon-sp alsa:  succeeded
Jul 15 06:44:01 athlon-sp modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-1
Jul 15 06:44:02 athlon-sp modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-2
Jul 15 06:44:02 athlon-sp modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-3
Jul 15 06:44:02 athlon-sp modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-4
Jul 15 06:44:02 athlon-sp modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-5
Jul 15 06:44:02 athlon-sp modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-6
Jul 15 06:44:02 athlon-sp modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-7
I read how to prevent the next one so will try that next:

Jul 15 06:44:04 athlon-sp saslauthd: saslauthd: invalid option -- T
Jul 15 06:44:04 athlon-sp saslauthd: usage: saslauthd [options]
Haven't looked for these ones yet:

Jul 15 06:44:13 athlon-sp xinetd[1283]: Service ftp: attribute 
already set: disable [line=16]

Jul 15 06:44:24 athlon-sp devfsd[89]: Caught SIGHUP
Jul 15 06:44:24 athlon-sp devfsd[89]: unknown group: video, 
defaulting to GID=0

Jul 15 06:44:27 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]: [2003/07/15 06:44:27, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235)
Jul 15 06:44:27 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]:   find_response_record: 
response packet id 932 received with no matching record.
Jul 15 06:44:27 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]: [2003/07/15 06:44:27, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235)
Jul 15 06:44:27 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]:   find_response_record: 
response packet id 933 received with no matching record.

Jul 15 06:46:12 athlon-sp /etc/hotplug/net.agent: register event not handled
Jul 15 06:46:12 athlon-sp /etc/hotplug/net.agent: register event not handled
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]: [2003/07/15 06:46:29, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235)
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]:   find_response_record: 
response packet id 949 received with no matching record.
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]: [2003/07/15 06:46:29, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235)
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]:   find_response_record: 
response packet id 950 received with no matching record.
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]: [2003/07/15 06:46:29, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235)
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]:   find_response_record: 
response packet id 943 received with no matching record.
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]: [2003/07/15 06:46:29, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235)
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]:   find_response_record: 
response packet id 944 received with no matching record.
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]: [2003/07/15 06:46:29, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235)
Jul 15 06:46:29 athlon-sp nmbd[1666]:   find_response_record: 
response packet id 945 received with no matching record.

Hope this is helpful

Serge

At 7:00 AM -0700 7/15/03, Serge Pluess wrote:
Sent this orignally on friday but it never made it through:

Hi

Current cooker system booted fine this morning.
then did my usual morning urpmi --auto-select ...  update of my 
cooker system and now I can't get it to boot regularly anymore. 
Lot's of error messages scrolling by and then the system just hangs. 
Just rebooted into failsafe mode and looking at the messages file.



Re: [Cooker] split lists?

2003-07-15 Thread Austin
On 2003.07.15 08:00, Warly wrote:
IMNSHO:
- I have no problem with the current cooker.
Word up.
Warly, you are (as usual), the cool-headed voice of reason.
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[Cooker] [Bug 1148] [ggv] ggv pdf rendering under gnome 2.2 looks terrible

2003-07-15 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148


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Closing as won't fix.. ggv no longer supports pdf viewing.. Use gpdf instead.

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rendering is almost illegible. This seems to be a font aa problem of some sort.

thanks,
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[Cooker] [Bug 2839] [skobo] Unneeded directory in package

2003-07-15 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2839





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Example: /var/lib/games/skobo/LNK.502 and /var/lib/games/skobo/RHR.501



Re: [Cooker] resend:Re: [CHRPM] metacity-2.5.2-3mdk

2003-07-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 09:02, Frederic Crozat wrote:

  forgive my ignorance, but is there any way to get around that topborder
  constraint without patching the thing? If yes, please enlighten me. If
  no, could that please be patched or at least could a patch be included
  in the src.rpm so that people can get rid of that rather unusual
  feature? I did patch metacity some months ago and told so on the list,
  now people ask /me/ for patches. But I'm not into wm coding, so I'm
  rather reluctant to give away patches that I made up in a hurry. I
  honestly admit that I have no idea what I'm doing with these patches.
 
 I don't think it is possible without patching and I won't integrate such a
 patch.. If you want the feature, fill a bug on bugzilla.gnome.org and see
 what Havoc has to say about it..

argh - really bad decision. Havoc won't implement it for his own reasons
(he thinks it's too confusing, or something). This way I'll never be
able to use metacity on my laptop, even though it'd be a good fit (the
laptop badly needs efficient programs - only 128MB RAM). Without being
able to drag windows off the top of the screen, Linux is utterly
unusable on a 480 high display, so I'm stuck with sawfish on the laptop
for ever.
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[Cooker] terminus-font vote for another ``a''

2003-07-15 Thread Han Boetes

Hi,

The terminus-font author, Dimitar Zhekov, is being plagued by requests
for another ``a'', because you couldn't distuingish it from an ``o'', so
he made a patch.

If you are using the terminus-font please try the new package:

This one contains the patched version:
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/rpms/terminus-font-4.03-2mdk.noarch.rpm

And for your comfort here is the old version:
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/rpms/terminus-font-4.03-1mdk.noarch.rpm

After that you can vote which version you like best here:
  http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/jimmy-en.html#vote


Here are two screenshots:

  With the old ``a'':
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/pictures/screenshot2.png

  And here is the new ``a'':
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/pictures/screenshot_aaa.png



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Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
B == Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 B Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
  I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me
  the 9.1 distro kernel

 B Of course, this is the wrong list for this question ...

 Even if we're building cooker with options incompatible with laptops?

Well, asking on a list where more people run the affected kernel
(2.4.21.0.13mdk or 2.4.21.0.18mdk) may help ensure the validity of your
claim.

FYI, my Thinkpad 600X runs either acpi or apm just fine on
2.4.21.0.13mdk (sorry, can't give definitive answers for other kernels,
as I have so many installed on it now for other reasons).


 Maybe I'm mistaken. I thought the purpose of cooker was to ensure a
 consistent and robust distribution through massively parallel
 debugging under wide user circumstances -- unless there's good reason
 to believe this subsystem has changed, aren't the lessons of
 installing the just-prior release in unusual circumstance suitable
 topics for discussion?

 For example, does the cooker list not care if the pcmcia_cs *.conf
 files mistakenly assign prism2 wireless cards to hermes chipsets or
 that the prism2_cs module, according to Google search results on
 mandrake prism2_cs has _never_ been successfully configured?  If you
 ask me, we'll never get a distro 'perfect', but it still makes us look
 bad if we include dysfunctional parts

Of course it is all valid, but the points you are missing out are:
1)What relevance is a bug in the previous ditro to the next one if it's
already fixed in cooker?
2)Cooker can't support people running a mix of a stable release and cooker

So, if you are running full cooker, and you have problems, file a bug.
If you are running 9.1, check first with another list (expert, a.o.l.m
etc), and then file a bug for 9.1 (there is no official procedure for
this though ... I think the current method is to abuse mandrakeexpert
for this). If you are absolutely sure (ie it's a config file, and you
have checked Mandrake's latest package in cvs) it's still applicable in
cooker, then file a bug in bugzilla.

For the kernel, and only the kernel, it may be valid to run the current
cooker kernel (kernel-2.4.21.3mdk-1-1mdk) on 9.1, but you better be sure
 of your stuff if you do things this way. If it's any other package,
rebuild it on your stable release, send any changes required to the
maintainer, and hope he's interested in having the packages build on
older releases (it is quite a bit of work).

Sorry, but it's just too difficult to debug cross-release stuff, for
instance there was someone who complained that libsmbclient packages
were wrong (since it wanted him to install samba-common-2.2.7a-8mdk and
uninstall libsmbclient0). But 2.2.7a-8mdk *is* only in 9.1, and in 9.1
there *is* no libsmbclient package. Having to track this down only to
find what the user has done is simply a waste of time ...

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
 B == Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

B Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
 I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me
 the 9.1 distro kernel

B Of course, this is the wrong list for this question ...

Even if we're building cooker with options incompatible with laptops?

Maybe I'm mistaken. I thought the purpose of cooker was to ensure a
consistent and robust distribution through massively parallel
debugging under wide user circumstances -- unless there's good reason
to believe this subsystem has changed, aren't the lessons of
installing the just-prior release in unusual circumstance suitable
topics for discussion?

For example, does the cooker list not care if the pcmcia_cs *.conf
files mistakenly assign prism2 wireless cards to hermes chipsets or
that the prism2_cs module, according to Google search results on
mandrake prism2_cs has _never_ been successfully configured?  If you
ask me, we'll never get a distro 'perfect', but it still makes us look
bad if we include dysfunctional parts

Maybe no one can do anything about it (esp the prism2 issue), but if
it's mentioned in the cooker, then at least the next random user who
slams into the bug and asks Google, maybe they will find the cooker
alert and realize it's an 'issue' -- 99% of the issues we see here
every day never make it into the official 'errata' ;)

Is it inappropriate to the future release to ensure we distribute
packages compatible with the kernel we're including?  In my case here,
if APM _is_ disabled in the kernel, that's ok, but then the apmd kit
being shipped with the cooker should be dropped because it's
incompatible: If people can recompile their own kernel to gain APM
support, you can be pretty certain they know how to download the apmd
software; if APM _is_ included in the kernel, then maybe this issue
points to an essential incompatibility with the kernel settings.

The thing is, unless someone reports it, how will we know?

Just my opinion of course ;)

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Requires cyrus-sasl

2003-07-15 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 15 juli 2003 14.36 skrev Buchan Milne:
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 David Walser wrote:
  Thanks Florin.  Well I know at the least postfix and sendmail need to

 be fixed.

  Anyone know of any others?

 AFAIK, postfix and sendmail should work as soon as openldap is built
 against sasl2, which IIRC requires openldap-2.1.x (but I could be wrong).

 $ rpm -qRp libldap2-2.0.27-8mdk.i586.rpm |grep sasl
 libsasl.so.7

 $ rpm -qRp postfix-2.0.12-3mdk.i586.rpm |grep sasl
 cyrus-sasl
 libsasl2.so.2

 Sendmail -4mdk should be linked to sasl2.so.2 if I read Oden's changelog
 right.

Yes it is.

But i strongly suspect applications needing libsasl will have to be rebuilt 
when we have openldap 2.1.x? ie, when sasl and openldap has been built 
against each other an unknown amount of times...


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Re: [Cooker] PCMCIA Linksys WPC11 should be a prism2_cs

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
 A == Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

A prism2_cs and orinoco_cs are essentially competitors

The docs say they apply to different chipsets.  Orinoco describes
itself as a driver for the hermes chipset, prism2_cs is for Intersil
Prism2.  I have no idea what that means (maybe Hermes _is_ Prism2?)
but I do know that these wireless modules have been in the cooker
since at least 8.0 and they have never worked with my Prism2 linksys
cards.

According to the google results, the orinoco_cs module crashes
everyone else's machines too -- mine locks so hard I have to remove
the battery to reboot.

A - they support the same cards. I think we favour putting
A orinoco_cs as the default, as it complies with the kernel
A wireless standards, whereas linux-wlan-ng doesn't.

Curious and interesting -- again, the google usenet search results end
in replies recommending remove the Mandrake modules and install
linux-wlan-ng from the sources ... which is not really an option for
many enterprise and non-technical users.

If anyone /has/ successfully run the orinoco_cs drivers on a Prism2.5
card, we should get them to post a testimony somewhere to balance out
google's picture ;) -- it's certainly never worked for me.

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kmldonkey-0.8-2plf

2003-07-15 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le sam 12/07/2003 à 09:00, Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
 [Contrib-RPM]
 
 --=-=-=
 Name: kmldonkeyRelocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 0.8   Vendor: Penguin Liberation Front
 Release : 2plf  Build Date: Sat Jul 12 10:54:51 2003

1°/ why this package in contrib rpm ?

2°/ file conflick with mldonkey-ed2k_submit

file /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol from install of
kmldonkey-0.8-2plf conflicts with file from package
mldonkey-ed2k_submit-2.5.3-2plf





Re: [Cooker] split lists?

2003-07-15 Thread dams
Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 On 2003.07.15 08:00, Warly wrote:
 IMNSHO:
 - I have no problem with the current cooker.

 Word up.
 Warly, you are (as usual), the cool-headed voice of reason.


Should we initiate a vote?



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RE: [Cooker] OT: MSVC

2003-07-15 Thread Evan Waite

Is there anyone on this list who has a running copy of MS visual C who
would 
be kind enough to compile a little (very small) application for me?
For some 
reason it was sent to me without a binary.

I'll be your best friend... 

Austin

I've got VS.NET 2002 installed if that will work.  One of the guys here
also has VS6 if it needs to be compiled with an older version.  Let me
know if you need me to compile it for you.

-Evan



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kmldonkey-0.8-2plf

2003-07-15 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mardi 15 Juillet 2003 19:11, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit :
 Le sam 12/07/2003 à 09:00, Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
  [Contrib-RPM]
 
  --=-=-=
  Name: kmldonkeyRelocations: (not
  relocateable) Version : 0.8   Vendor:
  Penguin Liberation Front Release : 2plf 
  Build Date: Sat Jul 12 10:54:51 2003

 1°/ why this package in contrib rpm ?

 2°/ file conflick with mldonkey-ed2k_submit

 file /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol from install of
 kmldonkey-0.8-2plf conflicts with file from package
 mldonkey-ed2k_submit-2.5.3-2plf

I allready replied when cooker list was broken !

- my fault, I used the wrong script on my computer
- upload script is buggy because buildhost is nit valid
- warly allready deleted it.

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk - files conflictwith gnome-applet

2003-07-15 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le ven 11/07/2003 à 17:01, Austin Acton a écrit :
 [Contrib-RPM]
 
 --=-=-=
 Name: sticky-notes-applet  Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 1.0.11Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Fri Jul 11 18:29:35 2003

file /usr/lib/stickynotes_applet from install of
sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package
gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk
file
/usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/applet_menu.png from
install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from
package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk
file
/usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/note_menu.png from
install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from
package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk
file
/usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/preferences_dialog.png from install 
of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package 
gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk
file
/usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/stickynotes_applet.png from install 
of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package 
gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk
file
/usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/stickynotes_applet.xml from
install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from
package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk





[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.14mdk

2003-07-15 Thread FACORAT Fabrice

[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]# rpm -q drakxtools harddrake userdrake
drakxtools-9.2-0.14mdk
harddrake-9.2-0.14mdk
userdrake-0.92-10mdk


1°/ diskdrake :
when I launch from mcc ( edit partition table part ), If I click on OK
when it advise me to save my partition table, it quit diskdrake as if I
had click on cancel. Clicking on cancel still quit diskdrake of course.

2°/ UI pb :
there should have a guideline for OK/Cancel position.
For example in draksec : Cancel - left side, Ok - right side
drakperm : Cancel - Right side, Ok - left side
disturbing and dangerous as if you click too fast, you may click on ok
when you were expecting to click on cancel.

Most of the time, validation is on the right side and cancellation on
the left side, or at the middle if you have a third button (
Advanced/Preferences )

apps needing fix : drakperm, clock.pl/timedrake, logdrake

3°/ Menudrake ( mcc part, first screen )

4°/ userdrake : gtk-ok/gtk-cancel button. Need lastest patch.

It should use the gtk stock icons  quit button

5°/ another UI pb :
The quit/finish button. Need also a standard position.
left ? middle ? right side ?
drakbackup - left side
drakfont - right side
harddrake - right side, different button ( quit and not finish )

6°/ XFdrake :
not using stock icons for quit in XFdrake ( XFree server configuration
), i.e where you can change graphic card, monitor, test config, etc ...
)




Re: [Cooker] Re: Requires cyrus-sasl

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
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Oden Eriksson wrote:
 tisdagen den 15 juli 2003 14.36 skrev Buchan Milne:

 Yes it is.


Sorry, my mistake, this thread is about removing the requirement for the
cyrus-sasl package, which I am still not sure about, since any server
using sasl is going to need *something* to authenticate against, either
saslauthd, sasldb, or a plugin, but I guess David is happy to tell users
to install cyrus-sasl all the time (instead of just telling some to
install plugins) ;-). And it's a very small package (300k installed).

 But i strongly suspect applications needing libsasl will have to be
rebuilt
 when we have openldap 2.1.x? ie, when sasl and openldap has been built
 against each other an unknown amount of times...

One rebuild of sasl against new openldap should do. Everything else
building against openldap should also be rebuilt after that, even though
the major did not change, there are some differences which could cause
problems or disable certain features.

But we need to consider removing libsasl7 (or moving it to contrib) ...
once everything is built against sasl2.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] gphoto2 broken?

2003-07-15 Thread Till Kamppeter
Can you check with the lsmod command whether the dc240 (or similar 
name) kernel module is loaded? If so, pleas unload it with rmmod 
dc240. This module blocks the USB access to the camera by gphoto2.

   Till

Michael Reinsch wrote:
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi!

Currently my digital camera (Kodak CX4230, USB) is no longer detected by
gphoto2. This used to work quite well, but stopped a few days ago. Can
someone confirm this? Or is this working for everybody else?




Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
 B == Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

B FYI, my Thinkpad 600X runs either acpi or apm just fine on
B 2.4.21.0.13mdk (sorry, can't give definitive answers for other
B kernels, as I have so many installed on it now for other
B reasons).

Good -- that's what I needed to know ;)

B Of course it is all valid, but the points you are missing out
B are: 1)What relevance is a bug in the previous ditro to the
B next one if it's already fixed in cooker?  

ah, yes, but, that assumes it _is_ 'fixed' in the cooker.

If we only depend on cooker-members to test the cooker, we're doomed,
we've reduced our quality control to the same inadequate model used by
proprietary software and we will fail to find most bugs.  This gets
back to Warly's comments about the bug-reports --- even if it's a bug
being reported on 6.0 ... if we've been overlooking it for a dozen
releases, that doesn't mean we shouldn't fix it, it means that someone
finally found it.

B 2)Cooker can't support people running a mix of a stable release
B and cooker

True; my question was if an option was off (which it could because
it's an old technology) and you confirmed by your experience that it
is not.  _Now_ it becomes an installation issue ;)

B ... If you are absolutely sure (ie it's a config file, and you
B have checked Mandrake's latest package in cvs) it's still
B applicable in cooker, then file a bug in bugzilla.

I disagree; that model always leads to such bug-bloat, no one ever
goes in because they have to wade through so much garbage.  If someone
reports an issue, our first responsibility is to ensure it's not a
design problem with the cooker we'd just released as stable; if
someone can confirm that it's not a flaw, then it becomes an install
issue, an issue of educating the customer in how to properly configure
an otherwise essentially correct distribution component.  If these
(volunteer) customer service reps cannot resolve the issue _then_
it's a bug and needs to be logged so it's not forgotten.

if you reverse that process, dump everything in the bug-jar by
default, the bug-jar becomes so muddied, you might as well be working
on Mozilla ;)

B Sorry, but it's just too difficult to debug cross-release
B stuff, for instance there was someone who complained that
B libsmbclient packages were wrong (since it wanted him to
B install samba-common-2.2.7a-8mdk and uninstall
B libsmbclient0). But 2.2.7a-8mdk *is* only in 9.1, and in 9.1
B there *is* no libsmbclient package. Having to track this down
B only to find what the user has done is simply a waste of time

Disagree with you there -- in this case, the proper customer education
is not to throw their report away, but to have told them when they
downloaded cooker RPMs that there may be problems; it is extremely
useful for many people to have the option to pick from the cooker, I
have clients who only use Mandrake because the cooker saved their skin
_but_ as you point out, _our_ response to missing packages is so
cryptic, it confuses those who have not been following the
discussions.

What the pre-install scripts of the samba-common needed to do was to
_tell_ them what it wanted (fyi, Dykstra would fail anyone who used
anthropomorphisms about computers such as feeding a computer data)

The error was not with the user, but with the package, so his reporting
the glitch to the cooker is a Good Thing -- you're under no obligation
to help him, but as you illustrate above, the /story/ of the situation
is generally instructive and belongs in the archives.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk - files conflict

2003-07-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:09:43 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:

 Le ven 11/07/2003 à 17:01, Austin Acton a écrit :
 [Contrib-RPM]
 
 --=-=-=
 Name: sticky-notes-applet  Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 1.0.11Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Fri Jul 11 18:29:35 2003
 
 file /usr/lib/stickynotes_applet from install of
 sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package
 gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk

Ok, I'll obsolete it..

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[Cooker] [Bug 2839] [skobo] Unneeded directory in package

2003-07-15 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2839





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It works again.  Thanks.  I had just compiled it (non rpm) and it worked fine, and I 
was about to build the package without that patch just as your email came in.

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Re: [Cooker] rpm madness

2003-07-15 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mardi 15 Juillet 2003 17:58, Pascal Cavy a écrit :
 Hemm I have some problems understanding these new dependencies on cooker
 ...

 Anyone has a clue ?

Yes wait, I will run my bot to warn packager about thoses kind of issue.

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Re: [Cooker] split lists?

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
 w == warly  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

w - I agree that some people have various interests and are not
w interested in such or such topics.

They can always filter on the [topic] strings to downgrade messages
they don't want to see.  As for the bandwidth issue, if you ask me,
I'd say someone on 56k dialup who's participating in a project which
requires the routine download of 2.5Gb of ISO images probably knows
how to manage their bandwidth ;)

w - I agree that multiple list will favor crosspost of people not
w knowing where to ask.

It's always a fuzzy question with free software: Is the product
broken, or am I just misunderstanding something?  This is especially
true for something as leading-edge addicted as Mandrake ;) -- every
new release contains revolutionary components (eg zeroconf) that are
not expected and not well documented online (ie, unknown to google) so
there's going to be confusion, even from old unix-hacks (like me) who
just missed the discussion.

But _we_ are supposed to be the experts: If we invite messages into
the cooker and someone posts an obvious installation/configuration
issue or an issue more appropriate to another list, maybe what we need
is a process to forward the message from here in the kitchen to
where-ever.  

I'm not at all sure how that could work without twenty of us
forwarding the same email to the KDE team or whatever

here's a really crazy idea; maybe teams could appoint someone as their
cooker-watcher (keeping in mind that Watts' pots never Boyle'd) and we
parallel-distributed watchers could adopt a convention that when you
see a message belonging elsewhere, to post an empty followup with the
target group name as a [topic] in the subject line, for example, if we
see a message

Subject: Re: [Cooker] split lists?

the cooker community can 'vote' it elsewhere by followups editing the
subject line (remember that the References: header keeps messages
threaded if your email software is suitably intelligent ;) so most
readers would create a thread that looked like

Subject: Re: [Cooker] split lists?
   Subject: [cooker.list.admin]
   Subject: [cooker.kde]

If you see someone has already 'tagged' an issue, you don't bother,
so we don't get long lists of this belongs elsewhere messages.

Using their normal email filtering, people interested in those
taxonomy terms would immediately see the empty followup, so all they
have to do is fetch the messages above that point in the thread.

of course, this would be _much_ easier if the cooker was a newsgroup :)

w I think that the bugs comments are part of the general
w discussion on the developement, and should be considered as
w equivalent to cooker thread.

Totally agreed.

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