Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Han Boetes]

Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 01:15:07AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote:
   Heck, I'm all for it and agree with all your reasons. But the
   example is a touch out... wu-ftpd hasn't been in main since 8.2
   (last version it shipped in main).
  
   Hey, while we're at it, can we throw sendmail in contribs? =)
  
   (Serious about killing wu-ftpd altogether, semi-serious about
   sendmail)
 
  To give a serious answer (like I got any authority in this :) No we
  can't ditch sendmail. Too many people rely and like sendmail. And
  it's not that evil. I mean there are some periods in which no
  exploits are found in sendmail.

 The same could be said of wu-ftpd, tho. There was the one issue in
 July, and previous to that was Nov 2001. So from 11/01-07/03 it was
 pretty quiet. I guarantee you in that timeframe sendmail has had more
 security issues.

hmmm, I don't know how many people still insist on using wu.


  But what we can do is keeping a close eye or even import the
  sendmail in OpenBSD-cvs which is audited. Same thing goes for BIND.
  I don't know how practical this is but it sounds like something to
  contemplate.

 Is openbsd using bind9 yet? Or are they still on bind4? If they are
 using bind9, I have my doubts that it's been audited... that's a lot
 of code to audit so quickly, especially considering how long they left
 bind4 in there.

BIND 9.2.2

I aught to ask around.

 On the sendmail side, I'm not sure. Is it up to date? We won't win any
 friends by regressing to an older-but-openbsd-audited version.
 
Sendmail: version.m4,v 8.92.2.15 2003/03/19 21:19:52 ca Exp 

Not that that is really important. But they also had to fix the recent
thing in sendmail. Though the default sendmail only listens on
localhosts so that's not a remote.



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[Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[Laurent Montel]

Hi,
I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test.
For the moment MDK menu doesn't work.
I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400.
I will apply them after.

There is some update problem:
- kmail, knode, korn moved from kdenetwork to kdepim
- split is not again perfect (so report all split problem please)
- mdk menu not supported
- there is a problem with mandrake-galaxy program it frozes kwin (I don't 
know why :( = I add a conflict and uninstall it please before to launch kde)

I ported galaxy theme to kwin 3.

MDK menu entry exists but they don't use by kde3.2

I compile all with --enable-debug=full = -g3

News in KDE 3.2 see http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-
features.html

Big improvment of kmail/knodes
Support SVG format (static and dynamic SVG)
Add new program:
- kpdf = frontend to xpdf
- ksvg
- kontact see http://kontact.kde.org/
- kopete now it's into kdenetwork
- kwallet gestion of passwd

So report bugs found please.
KDE config bugs please (config upgrade) etc.

Regards.

For the moment this packages is not into cooker, so you can download it from 
http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/

PS: save your config file 
PS2: save your mail

BECAREFULL it's package for test .

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Vincent Danen]

On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 10:33:35PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:

Heck, I'm all for it and agree with all your reasons. But the example
is a touch out... wu-ftpd hasn't been in main since 8.2 (last version
it shipped in main).
   
Hey, while we're at it, can we throw sendmail in contribs? =)
   
(Serious about killing wu-ftpd altogether, semi-serious about
sendmail)
   
   To give a serious answer (like I got any authority in this :)
   No we can't ditch sendmail. Too many people rely and like sendmail. And
   it's not that evil. I mean there are some periods in which no exploits
   are found in sendmail.
  
  The same could be said of wu-ftpd, tho.  There was the one issue in July,
  and previous to that was Nov 2001.  So from 11/01-07/03 it was pretty
  quiet.  I guarantee you in that timeframe sendmail has had more security
  issues.
  
   But what we can do is keeping a close eye or even import the sendmail in
   OpenBSD-cvs which is audited. Same thing goes for BIND. I don't know how
   practical this is but it sounds like something to contemplate.
  
  Is openbsd using bind9 yet?  Or are they still on bind4?  If they are using
  bind9, I have my doubts that it's been audited... that's a lot of code to
  audit so quickly, especially considering how long they left bind4 in there.
 
 One of the reasons the update took so long is that they are auditing the
 code *grin*  I checked 3.2 OpenBSD and it does run 9.21  I'm told that
 the do do a legit cheat when auditing.  They first recheck the code
 that didn't change and then repair.  Then audit what is left.  However I
 don't know enough about the process there to comment beyond this.

Hmmm.. that sounds interesting.  I wonder if the bind folks know about
this... I'm sure it would be nice to have whatever fixes are commited to
openbsd-cvs put back into bind itself.

  On the sendmail side, I'm not sure.  Is it up to date?  We won't win any
  friends by regressing to an older-but-openbsd-audited version.
 
 They don't have sendmail in the files list.  It's postfix there.

Well at least they're doing that right... =)

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Han Boetes]

Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Of course, I still don't get why we're jumping all over proftpd. It
 isn't really *that* insecure. As I pointed out to Han regarding wu-
 ftpd, proftpd is in a similar boat. There is this hole, which should
 be available in updates RSN, but the last one was in Jan 2002... over
 a year and a half ago. Again, comparing to sendmail, this sucker is
 pretty secure. Heck, compare it to openssh! How many updates for
 openssh have there been in the same timespan?

 We can't just throw stuff out the window because it has a hole today
 and has had one over a year or two years ago. That's just silly. Why
 aren't we jumping up and down about ditching php? Or apache? Or cups?
 Or XFree86? Or bind? Or openldap? The list goes on. All of those have
 been updated within the last 1-2 years as well, some many many times.

It's also about the magnitude of the hole. How big are the chances they
will be found again. The recent ssh-hole was technically speaking a
remote crash, not nice but nothing dramatic. You still have to patch it
but that's something I can live with.
On the other hand a remote root is a remote root and that is something
I really would like to avoid.

Once more. The size of the hole is more important than how often people
require you to patch.



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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Han Boetes]

Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 07:59:30PM -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote:
  I think the policy should be that anything which listens on a port
  should not, under any circumstances, be in contribs, as contribs are
  not generally updated; I'm sure that someone will come along with a
  sendmail repository and do the updates themselves.

 I disagree. A lot of nice network-type software would be missing and I
 sure as heck don't want them all in main. What's wrong with having
 them in contribs? They aren't officially maintained... so what? Having
 them in contribs, joe sysadmin can grab the src.rpm for what he has
 installed, grab the new version or patch, and roll his own. It's still
 convenient for him to have it in contribs even if he doesn't get it
 via MandrakeUpdate.

I does make sense if we have a note attached on them they can pose a
security risk and if people use them they should take care they are up
to date. Some sort of mechanism that keeps people informed about
updates. For example xmule which was found to be exploitable
recently. I expect more troubles from that program. A simple warning
after installing wont even do... Can somebody come up with a decent
solution to this problem?



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[Cooker] How to write a Mandrake HOWTO ?

[Svetoslav Slavtchev]

Hi,
i have in mind to write a simplified mandrake HOWTO 
on my beloved thema multi user 
so i wanted to ask whether there are some
specifications, docbook xml templates specific 
to  a Mandrake HOWTO

for simplication it will be only for dual-user,
the major points will probably be:

* configure XFree to use Xinerama using XFdrake
* add two independent layouts for both cards
* install the XFree  kernel rpms from http://...
* configure display manager
* reboot  enjoy

* doesn't work? or need more tweaks, more users
 - check the big HOWTO @ tldp.org

svetljo

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Han Boetes]

James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They don't have sendmail in the files list. It's postfix there.

I am sorry, you are mistaken. Theo swears to sendmail.



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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Luca Berra]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:06:30AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote:
The same could be said of wu-ftpd, tho. There was the one issue in
July, and previous to that was Nov 2001. So from 11/01-07/03 it was
pretty quiet. I guarantee you in that timeframe sendmail has had more
security issues.
hmmm, I don't know how many people still insist on using wu.
well, i still do, since i have a system that relies on some
configuration options in wu-ftpd that i don't know how to reproduce
with other daemons :(
oh, and before you ask, it is wrapped with capsel, so i don't believe
you can remote root it, even if it were unpatched.
anyway for the distro i'd use vsftpd as the main ftp server, and
pure/pro as an option.
i don't like proftpd, but it is just me.
A pity vsftpd does not do ftp-ssl.
regards,
L.
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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Han Boetes]

Luca Berra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Han Boetes wrote:
 hmmm, I don't know how many people still insist on using wu.

 well, i still do, since i have a system that relies on some
 configuration options in wu-ftpd that i don't know how to reproduce
 with other daemons :(
 oh, and before you ask, it is wrapped with capsel, so i don't believe
 you can remote root it, even if it were unpatched.

Is the default wu wrapped like that? Or can you adjust the default wu
so that it is wrapped like that?



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[Cooker] When rsync'ing I seem to be getting these files over and over

[John Allen]

Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-DocBook-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-Frontend-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-doc-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakfirsttime-0.92-3mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakwizard-2.5-1mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-de-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-es-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-fr-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-es-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-fr-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-it-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-ru-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_theme-0.1.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm
Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mkcd-3.6.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm

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Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome

[Götz Waschk]

Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2003, 20:48:11 Uhr MET, schrieb Toni Hermoso:
 Ups! Sorry for not having answered before:
 rpm -qa | grep pygtk 
 pygtk-0.6.11-4mdk
 pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk
 pygtk-libglade-0.6.11-3mdk
 pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk
 pygtk-glarea-0.6.11-4mdk
 pygtk2.0-wrapper-2.0.0-2mdk

It seems fine, but the error message suggests that the gnome-python
apps can't find pygtk2.0. Have you compiled that packages yourself
against the old python version? 

Can you please test this:
/usr/share/doc/pygtk2.0-2.0.0/examples/simple/hello.py

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Luca Berra]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 09:21:37AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote:
oh, and before you ask, it is wrapped with capsel, so i don't believe
you can remote root it, even if it were unpatched.
Is the default wu wrapped like that? Or can you adjust the default wu
so that it is wrapped like that?
well, no,
capsel is not even in Mandrake, i rebuilt the module from source.
probably better effect can be obtained by using grsecurity, but i never
had the time to learn that.
regards,
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Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome

[Toni Hermoso]

/usr/share/doc/pygtk2.0-2.0.0/examples/simple/hello.py

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Event'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Font' ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Color'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Cursor'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Rectangle'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Colormap' ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Device'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.DragContext' ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Drawable' ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Window'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Pixmap'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.GC'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Image'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Keymap'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Pixbuf'
ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.PixbufAnimation' ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.PixbufAnimationIter' ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.PixbufLoader' ready

** (hello.py:19297): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Visual'
ready
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/doc/pygtk2.0-2.0.0/examples/simple/hello.py, line 5,
in ?
import gtk
  File
/home/goetz/tmp/pygtk2.0-2.0.0-root/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py,
 line 43, in ?

I have not compiled this myself.
I do not know, maybe I will try urpme all concerning packages and
install them again...

CU
El dv, 26-09-2003 a las 09:40, Götz Waschk escribió:
 Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2003, 20:48:11 Uhr MET, schrieb Toni Hermoso:
  Ups! Sorry for not having answered before:
  rpm -qa | grep pygtk 
  pygtk-0.6.11-4mdk
  pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk
  pygtk-libglade-0.6.11-3mdk
  pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk
  pygtk-glarea-0.6.11-4mdk
  pygtk2.0-wrapper-2.0.0-2mdk
 
 It seems fine, but the error message suggests that the gnome-python
 apps can't find pygtk2.0. Have you compiled that packages yourself
 against the old python version? 
 
 Can you please test this:
 /usr/share/doc/pygtk2.0-2.0.0/examples/simple/hello.py
 
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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Guillaume Rousse]

Ainsi parlait Han Boetes :
 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 07:59:30PM -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote:
   I think the policy should be that anything which listens on a port
   should not, under any circumstances, be in contribs, as contribs are
   not generally updated; I'm sure that someone will come along with a
   sendmail repository and do the updates themselves.
 
  I disagree. A lot of nice network-type software would be missing and I
  sure as heck don't want them all in main. What's wrong with having
  them in contribs? They aren't officially maintained... so what? Having
  them in contribs, joe sysadmin can grab the src.rpm for what he has
  installed, grab the new version or patch, and roll his own. It's still
  convenient for him to have it in contribs even if he doesn't get it
  via MandrakeUpdate.

 I does make sense if we have a note attached on them they can pose a
 security risk and if people use them they should take care they are up
 to date. Some sort of mechanism that keeps people informed about
 updates. For example xmule which was found to be exploitable
 recently. I expect more troubles from that program. A simple warning
 after installing wont even do... Can somebody come up with a decent
 solution to this problem?
Actually, there is no point just explaining servers in contrib are not 
updated. A real explanation of mandrake policy would be far better:
- what is main, what is contrib, and what is update ?
- what does get updated ?
etc...
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[Cooker] latest dhcp-server won't start if ddns updates are turned on

[John Allen]

Sep 26 08:44:15 typhoon dhcpd: old name service update routine line 11: illegal 
expression relating different types
Sep 26 08:44:15 typhoon dhcpd: if (defined (ddns-fwd-name) and ddns-fwd-name !=
Sep 26 08:44:15 typhoon dhcpd:   ^
Sep 26 08:44:15 typhoon dhcpd: can't parse standard ddns updater!
Sep 26 08:44:15 typhoon dhcpd: 
Sep 26 08:44:15 typhoon dhcpd: If you did not get this software from ftp.isc.org, 
please
Sep 26 08:44:15 typhoon dhcpd: get the latest from ftp.isc.org and install that before
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Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome

[Toni Hermoso]

:-(

---

urpme pygtk2.0
Per a complir les dependències, s'eliminaran els següents paquets (8
MB):
dia-0.91-8mdk.i586 (degut a que falten pygtk2.0)
gdesklets-0.21.2-1mdk.i586 (degut a que falten gnome-python, degut a que
falten gdesklets-display)
gdesklets-cornerxmms-0.0.4-1mdk.noarch (degut a que falten gdesklets)
gdesklets-sysinfo-0.11-1mdk.noarch (degut a que falten gdesklets)
gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch (degut a que falten gdesklets)
gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a pygtk2.0 = 2.0.0 no satisfetes,
degut a que falten gnome-python-bonobo)
gnome-python-applet-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a gnome-python == 2.0.0-2mdk
no satisfetes)
gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a gnome-python-canvas ==
2.0.0-2mdk no satisfetes)
gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a pygtk2.0 = 2.0.0 no
satisfetes, degut a gnome-python == 2.0.0-2mdk no satisfetes)
gnome-python-nautilus-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a gnome-python ==
2.0.0-2mdk no satisfetes)
mdk-check-update-gnome-0.1.0-1mdk.i586 (degut a que falten
gnome-python-canvas, degut a que falten gnome-python)
nautilus_thumbnailers-0.0.1-2mdk.noarch (degut a que falten dia)
pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a pygtk2.0 == 2.0.0-2mdk no
satisfetes)
à  s correcte? (S/n) S

s'està eliminant dia-0.91-8mdk.i586 gdesklets-0.21.2-1mdk.i586
gdesklets-cornerxmms-0.0.4-1mdk.noarch
gdesklets-sysinfo-0.11-1mdk.noarch gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch
gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 gnome-python-applet-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
gnome-python-nautilus-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
mdk-check-update-gnome-0.1.0-1mdk.i586
nautilus_thumbnailers-0.0.1-2mdk.noarch pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
[10:30:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~]$ urpmi gdeskl  
Els paquets següents contenen gdeskl: 
gdesklets
gdesklets-acpi
gdesklets-bugzilla
gdesklets-clock
gdesklets-cornerxmms
gdesklets-externalsensor
gdesklets-linuxtag
gdesklets-starterbar
gdesklets-sysinfo
gdesklets-weather
gdesklets-wireless
[10:30:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~]$ urpmi gdesklets gdesklets-weather
Per complir les dependències, s'instal·laran els paquets següents (3
MB):
gdesklets-0.22-1mdk.i586
gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch
gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
à  s correcte? (S/n) S

   
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
   
[10:35:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~]$ urpmi gdesklets gdesklets-weather
Per complir les dependències, s'instal·laran els paquets següents (3
MB):
gdesklets-0.22-1mdk.i586
gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch
gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
à  s correcte? (S/n) S

   
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
   
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
   
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/gdesklets-0.22-1mdk.i586.rpm
   
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm
   
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
Els paquets següents tenen signatures
incorrectes:
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gdesklets-0.22-1mdk.i586.rpm: Falta la signatura
(sha1 md5 OK)
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm: Falta la
signatura (sha1 md5 OK)
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm: Falta la
signatura (sha1 md5 OK)
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm: Falta la
signatura (sha1 md5 OK)
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm: Falta la
signatura (sha1 md5 OK)
Voleu continuar la instal·lació ? (s/N) s
s'està instal·lant
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gdesklets-0.22-1mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
S'està preparant...   
##
   1:pygtk2.0  
##
   2:gnome-python  
##
   3:gnome-python-bonobo   
##
   4:gnome-python-canvas   
##
   5:gdesklets-weather 
##
   

Re: [Cooker] drakxtools-newt is a bad rpm?

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 urpmi, rpm, and MCC, are giving an error on this package from:
 
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 
 and:
 
 ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS

Local copy:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] md5sum /RPMS/drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm 
f7d9056e8010e3eb6b9a192689c65e27  /RPMS/drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] rpm -qp /RPMS/drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm 
drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk

From mandrake.redbox.cz:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] md5sum drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
f7d9056e8010e3eb6b9a192689c65e27  drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] rpm -qp drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk

From mirrors.secsup.org:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] md5sum drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1
eef5fbfefa491f4b8fe87b5b7a94d674  drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] rpm -qp drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1
error: drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 70771ff3


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome

[Götz Waschk]

Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 10:39:27 Uhr MET, schrieb Toni Hermoso:
 in ?
 import gtk
   File
 /home/goetz/tmp/pygtk2.0-2.0.0-root/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py,
  line 43, in ?
 ImportError: No module named _numpy
Hi,

I guess your python-numeric wasn't updated. Do you still have
 /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/Numeric/_numpy.so instead of
/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Numeric/_numpy.so ?
-- 
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the
homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War

Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome

[Toni Hermoso]

Now I have tried to compile myself gDesklets from project page but I end
up with the same problem:

gdesklets

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Event'
ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Font'
ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Color'
ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Cursor'
ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: could not get type `gtk.gdk.Rectangle'
ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Colormap' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Device' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.DragContext' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Drawable' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Window' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Pixmap' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.GC'
ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type `gtk.gdk.Image'
ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Keymap' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Pixbuf' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.PixbufAnimation' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.PixbufAnimationIter' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.PixbufLoader' ready

** (gdesklets:24931): WARNING **: couldn't make the type
`gtk.gdk.Visual' ready
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/bin/gdesklets, line 4, in ?
from main import HOME
  File /usr/local/share/gdesklets/main/__init__.py, line 39, in ?
import gnome.ui
ImportError: could not import bonobo.ui



El dv, 26-09-2003 a las 10:39, Toni Hermoso escribió:
 :-(
 
 ---
 
 urpme pygtk2.0
 Per a complir les dependències, s'eliminaran els següents paquets (8
 MB):
 dia-0.91-8mdk.i586 (degut a que falten pygtk2.0)
 gdesklets-0.21.2-1mdk.i586 (degut a que falten gnome-python, degut a que
 falten gdesklets-display)
 gdesklets-cornerxmms-0.0.4-1mdk.noarch (degut a que falten gdesklets)
 gdesklets-sysinfo-0.11-1mdk.noarch (degut a que falten gdesklets)
 gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch (degut a que falten gdesklets)
 gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a pygtk2.0 = 2.0.0 no satisfetes,
 degut a que falten gnome-python-bonobo)
 gnome-python-applet-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a gnome-python == 2.0.0-2mdk
 no satisfetes)
 gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a gnome-python-canvas ==
 2.0.0-2mdk no satisfetes)
 gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a pygtk2.0 = 2.0.0 no
 satisfetes, degut a gnome-python == 2.0.0-2mdk no satisfetes)
 gnome-python-nautilus-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a gnome-python ==
 2.0.0-2mdk no satisfetes)
 mdk-check-update-gnome-0.1.0-1mdk.i586 (degut a que falten
 gnome-python-canvas, degut a que falten gnome-python)
 nautilus_thumbnailers-0.0.1-2mdk.noarch (degut a que falten dia)
 pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 (degut a pygtk2.0 == 2.0.0-2mdk no
 satisfetes)
 Ã s correcte? (S/n) S
 
 s'està eliminant dia-0.91-8mdk.i586 gdesklets-0.21.2-1mdk.i586
 gdesklets-cornerxmms-0.0.4-1mdk.noarch
 gdesklets-sysinfo-0.11-1mdk.noarch gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch
 gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 gnome-python-applet-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586 gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 gnome-python-nautilus-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 mdk-check-update-gnome-0.1.0-1mdk.i586
 nautilus_thumbnailers-0.0.1-2mdk.noarch pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 [10:30:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~]$ urpmi gdeskl  
 Els paquets següents contenen gdeskl: 
 gdesklets
 gdesklets-acpi
 gdesklets-bugzilla
 gdesklets-clock
 gdesklets-cornerxmms
 gdesklets-externalsensor
 gdesklets-linuxtag
 gdesklets-starterbar
 gdesklets-sysinfo
 gdesklets-weather
 gdesklets-wireless
 [10:30:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~]$ urpmi gdesklets gdesklets-weather
 Per complir les dependències, s'instal·laran els paquets següents (3
 MB):
 gdesklets-0.22-1mdk.i586
 gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch
 gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 Ã s correcte? (S/n) S
 

 ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586.rpm

 [10:35:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~]$ urpmi gdesklets gdesklets-weather
 Per complir les dependències, s'instal·laran els paquets següents (3
 MB):
 gdesklets-0.22-1mdk.i586
 gdesklets-weather-0.2-1mdk.noarch
 gnome-python-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 gnome-python-bonobo-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 gnome-python-canvas-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk.i586
 Ã s correcte? (S/n) S
 

 

Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[Laurent Montel]

Le Friday 26 September 2003 10:33, s a écrit :
 sent to list, but didn't cc you.  so here's a copy.  I hope it's at
 least a little help.

 --

 On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:09 am, Laurent Montel wrote:
  Hi,
  I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test.
  For the moment MDK menu doesn't work.
  I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400.
  I will apply them after.

 I tested these packages just now on an updated cooker partition.  The
 output of urpmi is as follows:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:kde-3.2-alpha2$ urpmi *rpm
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kdeaddons-3.1.92-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libnoatun.so.1)
 kdeaddons-noatun-3.1.92-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libnoatun.so.1)
 kdebase-3.1.92-2mdk.i586
 kdemultimedia-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
 kdemultimedia-noatun[== 3.1.92-1mdk])
 kdemultimedia-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to missing
 libkdemultimedia1-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586)
 kdepim-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
 kdeutils-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
 libkdeaddons1-noatun-3.1.92-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
 libnoatun.so.1)
 libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
 devel(libnoatunarts))
 libkdemultimedia1-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
 libnoatunarts.so)
 libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to missing
 libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586) (Y/n)n

known bug.
I will try to fix it.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:kde-3.2-alpha2$ urpmi *rpm --allow-nodeps
 --allow-force
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kdebase-3.1.92-2mdk.i586
 kdegraphics-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
 kdenetwork-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
 libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 (Y/n)

 Installation failed:
 devel(libnoatunarts) is needed by
 libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.92-1mdk
 devel(libnoatunarts) is needed by
 libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk
 Try installation without checking dependencies? (y/N) y

 Installation failed:
 file /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/Plastik.kcsrc from
 install of kdebase-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from
 package kdemoreartwork-plastik-0.3.3-1mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from
 package bittorrent-gui-3.2.1b-6mdk
 Try installation even more strongly (--force)? (y/N) y

I will add a conflict with kdemoreartwork-plastik

 So as you can see, I ended up forcing them on.  It did boot i to kde
 (cool splash screen btw :D  ), I had a panel and complete desktop
 (minus wallpaper), but the most noticable problem was that the mouse
 and keyboard were not responsive.  So wasn't able to test much.  :P  I
 had rm .kde prior to startx.

 after sending original note to list, I then went back and rpm -Uvh
 kdebase-3.1.92-2mdk.i586  kdegraphics-3.1.92-3mdk.i586

 the kdenetwork conflicted with kdenetwork-kmail  knode

It's right a problem, I forgot to add %version-%release.

 the libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 didn't go either.

 I didn't observe any changes tho.

 I originally tried to urpme the old kde packages, but it wanted to
 take out so much other stuff that I just urpmi'd it.  I hope this is
 some help.  I'll install a clean cooker system later today minus kde
 for your next round.

Thanks for your report.
Regards.

 thanks,
 -srlinuxx

Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[s]

On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:09 am, Laurent Montel wrote:
 Hi,
 I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test.
 For the moment MDK menu doesn't work.
 I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400.
 I will apply them after.

I tested these packages just now on an updated cooker partition.  The 
output of urpmi is as follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:kde-3.2-alpha2$ urpmi *rpm
Some package requested cannot be installed:
kdeaddons-3.1.92-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libnoatun.so.1)
kdeaddons-noatun-3.1.92-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libnoatun.so.1)
kdebase-3.1.92-2mdk.i586
kdemultimedia-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied 
kdemultimedia-noatun[== 3.1.92-1mdk])
kdemultimedia-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to missing 
libkdemultimedia1-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586)
kdepim-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
kdeutils-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
libkdeaddons1-noatun-3.1.92-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied 
libnoatun.so.1)
libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied 
devel(libnoatunarts))
libkdemultimedia1-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied 
libnoatunarts.so)
libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586 (due to missing 
libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586) (Y/n)n


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:kde-3.2-alpha2$ urpmi *rpm --allow-nodeps 
--allow-force
Some package requested cannot be installed:
kdebase-3.1.92-2mdk.i586
kdegraphics-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
kdenetwork-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 (Y/n)

Installation failed:
devel(libnoatunarts) is needed by 
libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.92-1mdk
devel(libnoatunarts) is needed by 
libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk
Try installation without checking dependencies? (y/N) y

Installation failed:
file /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/Plastik.kcsrc from 
install of kdebase-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from 
package kdemoreartwork-plastik-0.3.3-1mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop from 
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from 
package bittorrent-gui-3.2.1b-6mdk
Try installation even more strongly (--force)? (y/N) y


So as you can see, I ended up forcing them on.  It did boot into kde 
(cool splash screen btw :D  ), I had a panel and complete desktop 
(minus wallpaper), but the most noticable problem was that the mouse 
and keyboard were no responsive.  So wasn't able to test much.  :P  I 
had rm .kde prior to startx.

I originally tried to urpme the old kde packages, but it wanted to 
take out so much other stuff that I just urpmi'd it.  I hope this is 
some help.  I'll install a clean cooker system later today minus kde 
for your next round.  

thanks,
-srlinuxx

[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] samba3-3.0.0-2mdk

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maybe next time I should rather not do that and fix silly little things
like this in the spec file (which take care of themself anyway).

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Buchan Milne]

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Han Boetes wrote:
 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We can't just throw stuff out the window because it has a hole today
and has had one over a year or two years ago. That's just silly. Why
aren't we jumping up and down about ditching php? Or apache? Or cups?
Or XFree86? Or bind? Or openldap? The list goes on. All of those have
been updated within the last 1-2 years as well, some many many times.

 It's also about the magnitude of the hole. How big are the chances they
 will be found again. The recent ssh-hole was technically speaking a
 remote crash, not nice but nothing dramatic. You still have to patch it
 but that's something I can live with.
 On the other hand a remote root is a remote root and that is something
 I really would like to avoid.

 Once more. The size of the hole is more important than how often people
 require you to patch.

Well, then by it's history over the past year, sendmail should be the
first kicked out the distro (3 potential remote root vulnerabilities
plus another 2 DOS vulnerabilities). And I don't think there is much
reason feature-wise to choose sendmail over postfix.

I think second on the list would be samba, but I don't suppose anyone is
going to propose a replacement ... (no, samba-tng doesn't count ...).

BTW, a lot of the issues could be resolved if there were a standard
mechanism for contrib updates. Vince, I think this was about the time
you said we could start discussing it?

Regards,
Buchan
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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] samba3-3.0.0-2mdk

[Thomas Backlund]

From: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thomas Backlund wrote:
Name: samba3   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 3.0.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 2mdk  Build Date: Thu Sep 25

[...]
 
  Since it's final, shouldn't you drop the note ??

 I didn't want to mess with the spec file, but see what happens if you
 use --with system:

[...]

 This will happen when it goes into main and I have had it in production
 for a few weeks ...

 I had prepared for a tight samba-3.0.0-main schedule, so made provision
 for that. Since it didn't go into main, I will take my time on the rest
 ... (except for initial packages for older releases which are almost
done).


Ah, Ok...
No problem then ;-)
It just caught my attention...

Keep up the good work..

Regards

Thomas

Re: [Cooker] Post 9.2 urpmi security suggestion/question

[John Keller]

Duncan wrote:
 With that in mind, I've become increasingly uncomfortable running urpmi,
 downloads and all, from root.  I don't surf the web as root, and for good
 reason, I expect most will agree.  I understand the need for root for the
 installation steps, but why must the files be downloaded as root?  That
 seems like far less than a secure solution, from here.  Having been on
 this list a bit over a full release cycle now, I've waited for this to
 come up, as I was SURE I was missing something obvious and if I just kept
 quite someone else would raise the issue and I'd be able to learn..
 However, that hasn't happened, and at the expense of looking foolish for
 overlooking the obvious, I'm now raising the issue, as I'm becoming
 increasingly uncomfortable with the current situation.

This might be a good thing to add to the Wiki. It could help avoid losing it
in the shuffle.

Do you have an account? I cna post it, but if you need access you can ask
Warly.

- John

[Cooker] k3b : icon missing in the menu ?

[Eric Fernandez]

I use the latest contrib k3b (_010cvs) and the icon is missing in my K menu.
Is it a packaging problem or a personal config issue ?
Thanks

Re: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs has been sent

[Eric Fernandez]

LACROIX Pascal wrote:

That RH announce should be a mistake, I realy think it's better if users can 
see Mandrake in some stores, not especialy in super market, but in some 
computers-stores.
So, only avalable by net and visa : THIS E-STORE IS NOT FOR ME !!!

Mandrakestore accepts paypal, transfers and cheques, no ?

Eric

[Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Luca Landi]

.. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3?!?!)...

- GCC 3.3.2 or better GCC 3.4.x
- Linux Kernel 2.6.x
- New KDE 3.2.x
- New Lib QT 3.2.x
- improved ACPI support! (Now is very bad!)
- improved Notebook/Laptop support with hibernate/suspend native support
(for me is very very important!!!)
- Support for new PCI-X bus
- improved support for USB-2
- improved support for S-ATA 1 and S-ATA 2 (with hardware RAID support)!!!
- Special support for new CPU: Amd-K8, Amd-Athlon64, Amd Athlon64FX, Intel
Centrino, new evolutions of Intel P4?!?
- Special Kernel support for HyperTrading Tecnology.???

- New Samba 3!! See: http://de.samba.org/samba/whatsnew/samba-3.0.0.html (24
September 2003)
- Kdevelop 3.0
- Gnome 2.3.x or if available... 2.4
- Mplayer 1.x
- Mozilla 1.5
- K3B 0.10 or 0.11 with new cdrtools  cdrdao (with DVD support)...
- Eroaster 2.2.0..
- improved support for new Graphics Card. (see new ATI (and IGP),
S3-Via, GeForce4/5)
- if available XFree 4.4.0, see: http://www.xfree.org/develsnaps/
- FreeType2 2.1.5
- glibc 3.2.3. or better...
- Gimp 1.3.20 See: http://www.gnome.org/~drc/gimp-rpms/
- Stable Release Perl 5.8.1
- PHP 4.3.4 if available...
- New PostgreSQL 7.4 if available...
- New Stable Release of Python 2.3.1... See: http://www.python.org/2.3.1/
- WINE 20030911 or better
- Stable version of Sine-Lib 1.0 if available...
... anb more other fix to other small utils

Bye,
Luca Landi

Re: [Cooker] My name is: localhost.

[Damien Chaumette]

guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi
 
 Hd.img installation from uninett VERSION:
 Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030924 21:50
 /ChangeLog/1.847/Tue Sep 23 09:45:58 2003//
 
 I did an automatic installation of lan and only added the name 'Freedom'. The 
 firewall is a mdk 9.1.
 
 This is from /var/log/messages:
 ...
 Sep 25 14:15:26 localhost tmdns[1511]: enter main loop
 Sep 25 14:15:26 localhost tmdns: tmdns start succeeded
 Sep 25 14:15:27 localhost tmdns[1511]: claim name Freedom.local, type 1
 ...
 
 ...
 Sep 25 14:15:33 localhost postfix: Startar postfix:
 Sep 25 14:15:33 localhost postfix: postalias: warning: My hostname localhost 
 is not a fully qualified name
  - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf
 Sep 25 14:15:33 localhost postfix: postmap: warning: My hostname localhost is 
 not a fully qualified name -
  set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf
 Sep 25 14:15:34 localhost last message repeated 4 times
 Sep 25 14:15:35 localhost postfix:  succeeded
 ...
 
 I find that I have no freedom to add my own name.
 guran
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 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth
 can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.

Your network has to be rightly configured so that your IP will be resolved
and you'll get back a FQHN.

We don't let user choose hostname randomly in DHCP mode.

-- 
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MandrakeSoft

Re: [Cooker] My name is: localhost.

[John Allen]

On Friday 26 September 2003 11:49, Damien Chaumette wrote:
 guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hi
 

[snipped]


 Your network has to be rightly configured so that your IP will be resolved
 and you'll get back a FQHN.

 We don't let user choose hostname randomly in DHCP mode.

This is not correct, you have a choice to use DHCP allocated name, or specify 
your own.

-- 
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MandrakeClub Silver Member.

Re: [Cooker] My name is: localhost.

[Buchan Milne]

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Damien Chaumette wrote:

 Your network has to be rightly configured so that your IP will be resolved
 and you'll get back a FQHN.

Yes, this is the job of drakconnect (to ensure that whatever the user
chooses, they have working name resolution etc).

 We don't let user choose hostname randomly in DHCP mode.

Damien, can you please discuss with us the exact design spec for
drakconnect, so that the issue is fixed for 10.0?

rant
At present, drakconnect makes it excessively easy to stuff up a network
configuration. If the user uses no advanced buttons, they end up with:

1)Hostname = localhost
(I have already mentioned why this is idiotic, you haven't answered why
you think it is a good idea for all the daemons to be using localhost
as their hostname, why samba, postfix and cups should be broken
out-the-box due to this)

2)tmdns advertising a hostname which the rest of the system doesn't know
about

3)In networks with DDNS, the wrong hostname is used, and the DHCP server
won't setup DNS entries for the machine.

In short, the current handling of drakconnect is useless for any
business network (I can't judge it on DSL etc).

Please, stop breaking other packages. Maybe in future I will make the
default netbios name drakconnectsux so at least Windows machines can
connect to a Mandrake machine via samba out-the-box. It's easier and
more maintainable than fixing the same issue the way Till fixed CUPS.
/rant

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] kernel-mm rpm

[danny]

Hi Warly,
any idea why the mirrors refuse to update to 
kernel-multimedia-source-2.4.22.10mm-1mdk-1-1mdk ?
The kernels are there on all mirrors, but the source is still at 9mm-1mdk. 
Is it because I provided kernel-source and some script disallows that?

d.

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Buchan Milne]

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Luca Landi wrote:
 .. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3?!?!)...

 - GCC 3.3.2 or better GCC 3.4.x

Requesting a specific version is pointless. What if 3.5 is stable alredady?

 - Linux Kernel 2.6.x

What if 2.6.0 isn't out yet?

 - New KDE 3.2.x
 - New Lib QT 3.2.x
 - improved ACPI support! (Now is very bad!)

It's better than nothing

 - improved Notebook/Laptop support with hibernate/suspend native
support
 (for me is very very important!!!)
 - Support for new PCI-X bus
 - improved support for USB-2
 - improved support for S-ATA 1 and S-ATA 2 (with hardware RAID support)!!!
 - Special support for new CPU: Amd-K8, Amd-Athlon64, Amd Athlon64FX, Intel
 Centrino, new evolutions of Intel P4?!?
 - Special Kernel support for HyperTrading Tecnology.???

Basic HT is in 2.4.2x, real HT will be in 2.6.


 - New Samba 3!! See:
http://de.samba.org/samba/whatsnew/samba-3.0.0.html (24
 September 2003)

Look in contrib (you obviously don't read the changelog list). Look on
ftp.samba.org in 12 hours, or http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake now
(such as http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/9.1/samba-3.0.0/)

 - Kdevelop 3.0
 - Gnome 2.3.x or if available... 2.4
 - Mplayer 1.x
 - Mozilla 1.5
 - K3B 0.10 or 0.11 with new cdrtools  cdrdao (with DVD support)...
 - Eroaster 2.2.0..
 - improved support for new Graphics Card. (see new ATI (and IGP),
 S3-Via, GeForce4/5)
 - if available XFree 4.4.0, see: http://www.xfree.org/develsnaps/
 - FreeType2 2.1.5
 - glibc 3.2.3. or better...
 - Gimp 1.3.20 See: http://www.gnome.org/~drc/gimp-rpms/
 - Stable Release Perl 5.8.1
 - PHP 4.3.4 if available...
 - New PostgreSQL 7.4 if available...
 - New Stable Release of Python 2.3.1... See: http://www.python.org/2.3.1/
 - WINE 20030911 or better
 - Stable version of Sine-Lib 1.0 if available...
 ... anb more other fix to other small utils

The majority of these issues have nothing to do with Mandrake, but the
release schedule of the other projects. If you want kernel-2.6.0, go out
and help fix it so it's out in time.

I could request samba4, but that's not going to mean anoyone is going to
do anything about it or take me seriously.

Instead of discussing version numbers, maybe you would like to discuss
things we actually have control over?

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Eric Fernandez]

Buchan Milne wrote:

Instead of discussing version numbers, maybe you would like to discuss
things we actually have control over?
 

A better draksound : I proposed already an automatic serial test of OSS 
and ALSA drivers.

Drakxservices : sort them by themes, and add more precise help to 
indicate when it is necessary (basic, networking, file monitoring, 
etc...) and warning about how safe it can be

A better access to source management : integrate urpmi.setup in the 
software manager, probably by merging it with the source update. Make an 
automatic (but optional) update of the sources when you want to install 
a package and it fails because urpmi detects the source is outdated, and 
also using anacron (for example).

Other ideas will come with time :)

Eric

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Eric Fernandez]

Eric Fernandez wrote:

Buchan Milne wrote:

Instead of discussing version numbers, maybe you would like to discuss
things we actually have control over?
 

A better draksound : I proposed already an automatic serial test of 
OSS and ALSA drivers.

Drakxservices : sort them by themes, and add more precise help to 
indicate when it is necessary (basic, networking, file monitoring, 
etc...) and warning about how safe it can be

A better access to source management : integrate urpmi.setup in the 
software manager, probably by merging it with the source update. Make 
an automatic (but optional) update of the sources when you want to 
install a package and it fails because urpmi detects the source is 
outdated, and also using anacron (for example).

Other ideas will come with time :)

Eric


I meant :
how safe it can be to turn it off (or on) on your system.
Eric

[Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test

[Götz Waschk]

http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/

 * Fr Sep 26 2003 Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.3-2gpw

- remove broken donation nag message
- use transparent icons without text
- include debian man pages

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homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War

Re: [Cooker] kernel-mm rpm

[Thomas Backlund]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Warly,
 any idea why the mirrors refuse to update to
 kernel-multimedia-source-2.4.22.10mm-1mdk-1-1mdk ?
 The kernels are there on all mirrors, but the source is still at 9mm-1mdk.
 Is it because I provided kernel-source and some script disallows that?

 d.


Shouldn't be since my kernel provides it too:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] thomas]$ urpmq -r kernel-source --media contrib
kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-10.tmb.4mdk


Thomas

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 11:37, Luca Landi wrote:
 .. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3?!?!)...
 
 - GCC 3.3.2 or better GCC 3.4.x
 - Linux Kernel 2.6.x
 - New KDE 3.2.x
 - New Lib QT 3.2.x
 - improved ACPI support! (Now is very bad!)

Um. MDK doesn't write acpi support. acpi4linux write that. MDK just
patch it into the kernel. We already use their latest code, there's
nothing else we can do.

 - improved Notebook/Laptop support with hibernate/suspend native support
 (for me is very very important!!!)

Again. Out of MDK's hands. We already have the best support available -
latest APM, ACPI and pmsuspend code.

 - Support for new PCI-X bus
 - improved support for USB-2
 - improved support for S-ATA 1 and S-ATA 2 (with hardware RAID support)!!!

Nothing to do with MDK. This is kernel code.

 - Special support for new CPU: Amd-K8, Amd-Athlon64, Amd Athlon64FX, Intel
 Centrino, new evolutions of Intel P4?!?

There's already an AMD64 Cooker branch. Check the mirrors. What special
support would you need for Centrino? Centrino is marketing hype, it's
the the Pentium-M processor, which is perfectly well supported already.
What special support would future revisions of the P4 need?

 - Special Kernel support for HyperTrading Tecnology.???

Um. HT is already perfectly well supported in the kernel, has been for
ages.

 - New Samba 3!! See: http://de.samba.org/samba/whatsnew/samba-3.0.0.html (24
 September 2003)

Already in contrib.

 - Kdevelop 3.0
 - Gnome 2.3.x or if available... 2.4

Already in 9.2.

 - Mplayer 1.x

Already in contrib.

 - Mozilla 1.5

Will be coming as soon as we unfreeze, I expect. Fred's fast.

 - improved support for new Graphics Card. (see new ATI (and IGP),
 S3-Via, GeForce4/5)

Not MDK's code. That's XFree's job.

 - Gimp 1.3.20 See: http://www.gnome.org/~drc/gimp-rpms/

Already in.

snip more pointless lists of new releases which will of course be
included - look, all this stuff is already in Mandrake. OF COURSE 9.3 /
10 will have the new versions of it, what do you expect, no updates?
This email was practically pointless. Honestly.
-- 
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[Cooker] Xmule

[Michael Lothian]

I know Xmule isn't offically part of Mandrake and only available from 
plf but...

Has any one got it working with cooker?

I got a screen full of error messages when I try and run it. (I'll post 
them as soon as I'm back on my own PC)

I'm using the latest cooker, using plf cooker and installing using urpmi.

Any ideas? Or is anyone else experiencing the same problems?

Thanks

Mike

Re: [Cooker] Xmule

[Götz Waschk]

Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 13:02:25 Uhr MET, schrieb Michael Lothian:
 I know Xmule isn't offically part of Mandrake and only available from 
 plf but...

PLF has it's own list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
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Re: [Cooker] Xmule

[Guillaume Rousse]

Ainsi parlait Götz Waschk :
 Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 13:02:25 Uhr MET, schrieb Michael Lothian:
  I know Xmule isn't offically part of Mandrake and only available from
  plf but...

 PLF has it's own list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And has _nothing_ to do with mdk, as everyone knows :-P
-- 
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manual is directly proportional to its importance
-- Mechanical General Shefields Corollaries n°2

Re: [Cooker] Xmule

[Buchan Milne]

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Guillaume Rousse wrote:
 Ainsi parlait Götz Waschk :

Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 13:02:25 Uhr MET, schrieb Michael Lothian:

I know Xmule isn't offically part of Mandrake and only available from
plf but...

PLF has it's own list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 And has _nothing_ to do with mdk, as everyone knows :-P

Well, by the recent trend in discussions, it has more to do with Debian,
Redhat, and Nasgaia than Mandrake :-/

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Luca Landi]

Sorry...  I was just talking about the future features the next version
should have had in my opinion...

I know that most of my advises are not involved to your work.
I hope a part of them will be realized by developers, so MDK will be able to
integrate them in the next release.

Best regards,
Luca

- Original Message - 
From: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...


 On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 11:37, Luca Landi wrote:
  .. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3?!?!)...
 
  - GCC 3.3.2 or better GCC 3.4.x
  - Linux Kernel 2.6.x
  - New KDE 3.2.x
  - New Lib QT 3.2.x
  - improved ACPI support! (Now is very bad!)

 Um. MDK doesn't write acpi support. acpi4linux write that. MDK just
 patch it into the kernel. We already use their latest code, there's
 nothing else we can do.

  - improved Notebook/Laptop support with hibernate/suspend native
support
  (for me is very very important!!!)

 Again. Out of MDK's hands. We already have the best support available -
 latest APM, ACPI and pmsuspend code.

  - Support for new PCI-X bus
  - improved support for USB-2
  - improved support for S-ATA 1 and S-ATA 2 (with hardware RAID
support)!!!

 Nothing to do with MDK. This is kernel code.

  - Special support for new CPU: Amd-K8, Amd-Athlon64, Amd Athlon64FX,
Intel
  Centrino, new evolutions of Intel P4?!?

 There's already an AMD64 Cooker branch. Check the mirrors. What special
 support would you need for Centrino? Centrino is marketing hype, it's
 the the Pentium-M processor, which is perfectly well supported already.
 What special support would future revisions of the P4 need?

  - Special Kernel support for HyperTrading Tecnology.???

 Um. HT is already perfectly well supported in the kernel, has been for
 ages.

  - New Samba 3!! See: http://de.samba.org/samba/whatsnew/samba-3.0.0.html
(24
  September 2003)

 Already in contrib.

  - Kdevelop 3.0
  - Gnome 2.3.x or if available... 2.4

 Already in 9.2.

  - Mplayer 1.x

 Already in contrib.

  - Mozilla 1.5

 Will be coming as soon as we unfreeze, I expect. Fred's fast.

  - improved support for new Graphics Card. (see new ATI (and IGP),
  S3-Via, GeForce4/5)

 Not MDK's code. That's XFree's job.

  - Gimp 1.3.20 See: http://www.gnome.org/~drc/gimp-rpms/

 Already in.

 snip more pointless lists of new releases which will of course be
 included - look, all this stuff is already in Mandrake. OF COURSE 9.3 /
 10 will have the new versions of it, what do you expect, no updates?
 This email was practically pointless. Honestly.
 -- 
 adamw

Re: [Cooker] k3b : icon missing in the menu ?

[Marcel Pol]

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:06:16 +0100
Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I use the latest contrib k3b (_010cvs) and the icon is missing in my K menu.
 Is it a packaging problem or a personal config issue ?

Works For Me.
/usr/lib/menu/k3b should list k3b.png as icon, which should exist as
/usr/share/icons/k3b.png
Does running update-menus list it again?



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[Cooker] [Bug 5088] [drakxtools] Cannot import Windows fonts

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I've just performed a clean install, and used the fixed drakfont. Works 
perfectly. 

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Keld Jørn Simonsen]

My 2 øre for mdk 10:

better drakbakup support (it has already be greatly improved), including
wizard setup for automatic backup (to disk)

better ntp support, configurable out of mcc

better setup for terminal-server, and this setup included in mcc
pxe supported directly with terminal-server.

configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX

installing out of a disk .img with all boot facilities as a standard
install way.

integration of spamassassin with postfix

possiblity to nuke files with standard virus extension in postfix (.exe,
.pif..)

Some more security features that are easy to set up for novices, with a
home LAN. This could include enhanced visibility and ease of configuring
backup and security patches, in post-install mode of drakx and mcc.

harmonization of drakx and mcc - using the same wizards etc.

Maybe more later
Keld

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Stew Benedict]

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote:

 My 2 øre for mdk 10:
 
 better drakbakup support (it has already be greatly improved), including
 wizard setup for automatic backup (to disk)
 

I've got your notes on this one.  Will look at it.

 better setup for terminal-server, and this setup included in mcc
 pxe supported directly with terminal-server.
 

Could you expand on this one a little?  I'd like the integrate pxe, my 
problem is lack of pxe enabled hardware.

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Götz Waschk]

Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 15:14:50 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen:
 configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX

This is a good idea. I hope the suits don't decide against this to
protect the added value of their powerpack DVDs.

 possiblity to nuke files with standard virus extension in postfix (.exe,
 .pif..)

I somehow misread this for plf :-)


Which leads me to another problem: backported packages: Projects like
plf sometimes need to backport cooker or contrib packages to the
stable distribution. This can lead to problems when upgrading to the
next stable distribution, when the release number of the package
didn't change. Here's an example:

- install foobar-1.2-3mdk backported from cooker to Mandrake
9.1, obviously based on libbaz2.
- upgrade the distribution to 9.2. 9.2 has libbaz3 and
foobar-1.2.3mdk based on libbaz3
- as the version and release numbers stay the same, the foobar package
doesn't get updated to the version linked against libbaz3

It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a
package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the
same version and release tags.
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[Cooker] [Bug 5932] [mailman] group conflicts with latest postfix

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http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5932





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OK, sonow I am more confused. I repoerted the bug against mailman 2.1.2-9 and 
I guess 2.1.2-7 is correct? Which one works correctly with postfix 2.0.13-3?

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-mm rpm

[Austin]

On 09/26/2003 07:44:17 AM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Warly,
 any idea why the mirrors refuse to update to
 kernel-multimedia-source-2.4.22.10mm-1mdk-1-1mdk ?
 The kernels are there on all mirrors, but the source is still at 9mm-1mdk.
 Is it because I provided kernel-source and some script disallows that?

 d.

Danny, are you on the maintainers list?
You're getting 'you have not included changes from previous version in  
changelog error'.  Rediff your changelog against the CVS.

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Buchan Milne]

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Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
 My 2 øre for mdk 10:



 configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX

I would like to be able to specify an update source (since we have a
local internal mirror, and bandwidth to official mirrors is both slow
and expensive).

 installing out of a disk .img with all boot facilities as a standard
 install way.

Can you explain this one more?


 integration of spamassassin with postfix

 possiblity to nuke files with standard virus extension in postfix (.exe,
 .pif..)

This shouldn't be done out-the-box without user intervention. We need a
drakmailserver or something.


 Some more security features that are easy to set up for novices, with a
 home LAN. This could include enhanced visibility and ease of configuring
 backup and security patches, in post-install mode of drakx and mcc.

 harmonization of drakx and mcc - using the same wizards etc.

AFAIK this is mostly done.

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] Re: Aaarrgghhh!!!^%$#%^%$%^%^

[Duncan]

Greg Meyer posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below,  on Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:22:31 -0400:

 On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:09 am, Han Boetes wrote:
 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Fresh install, log into fluxbox, no [EMAIL PROTECTED] terminal.
 
 Can you debug that?
 
 Yeah.  I can't start a terminal because there is no menu entry for a
 terminal. Since I can't start a terminal to get a CLI, I can't start a
 terminal from the CLI.
 
 No menu entry for rxvt and no menu entry in fluxbox menus for konsole.

Does fluxbox not have a run dialog then?  Even without a menu entry for
a terminal, a run dialog should be usable to start one -- unless of course
you don't know the actual command name, but anyone that actually misses a
terminal should be able to figure /that/ out.  Of course, no run dialog
and..

Or.. start up a file browser and launch it by clicking on the file there..
Or.. start up Konqueror and use the launch terminal command there, or
activate its builtin terminal pane, or use its shell command function
(basically a run dialog).  Of course, if the konsole entry is missing,
kdebase-konsole may not be installed, and I'm not sure if those entries
will work.  Still, the shell command function should.

Someone mentioned mcc/drakconf still has a shell function..  Of course,
that does require root..

I'm sure there are probably many other apps that can launch either a shell
directly, or a run dialog from which one can be launched.  As I was just
reading in the sudo documentation the other day, it can be difficult to
restrict a user who want to launch a shell from doing so, unless you
restrict him from running all the various apps that have that
functionality as well.

Oh.. another one.. menudrake.. then create your menu entry, and run it..
assuming of course that IT'S in the menu (and that fluxbox uses the Mdk
menu system, but I'd guess it does).

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[Cooker] [Bug 5979] [urpmi] New: urpmi problem--strange output

[[c335347]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5979

   Product: urpmi
 Component: urpmi
   Summary: urpmi problem--strange output
   Product: urpmi
   Version: 4.4-37mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: urpmi
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


the following output is repeated (10-20 lines) when using urpmi to upgrade
packages: rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format
this does not prevent upgrade/install, but is rather disconcerting

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Re: [Cooker] How to write a Mandrake HOWTO ?

[Austin]

Yes, there is a big problem with writing docs now that Mandrake is more  
community-based... as GC and I discussed a month or two ago.

Old corporate style is official and looks nice (use XML-related format or  
whatever), and can be edited with your favorite editor, but can't be  
transferred easily to the wiki, where most docs should reside IMHO.  At the  
very least, it draws people to the wiki.

New community style is to write the doc on the wiki.  Problem is editing a  
large document in a web browser, no syntax highlighting, etc.  Does anyone  
know of an editor for wiki markup?  Also, the document is then not easily  
published elsewhere.  Is there an easy way to convert wiki markup to pure  
HTML, or PDF, or some other publishing format?

This is something that should be sorted out, as doc writing is an amazing  
source of free labour, and allows not-so-technical people to help out too.

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[Laurent Montel]

Le Friday 26 September 2003 18:01, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit :
 Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 16:09, Laurent Montel a écrit :
  Hi,
  I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test.
  For the moment MDK menu doesn't work.
  I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400.
  I will apply them after.
 
  There is some update problem:
  - kmail, knode, korn moved from kdenetwork to kdepim
  - split is not again perfect (so report all split problem please)
  - mdk menu not supported
  - there is a problem with mandrake-galaxy program it frozes kwin (I
  don't know why :( = I add a conflict and uninstall it please before to
  launch kde)

 Note : I don't delete my old ~/.kde.

 I copy all the file in a directory and add it as a urpmi source.
 I unistall first kdepim and kdenetwork packages ( kmail, korganizer, ...
 libkde... ), then urpmi kdebase.

 1°/ conflict with kmplayer + mandrake-mime + kdemoreartwork-plastik

 file /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/Plastik.kcsrc from
 install of kdebase-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 kdemoreartwork-plastik-0.3.3-1mdk

There is a mandrake-mime-0.4-4mdk into this directory

 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/pgp.desktop from install of
 kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-php.desktop from install
 of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/model/vrml.desktop from install of
 kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/video/x-ms-asf.desktop from install of
 kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk

 file /usr/share/mimelnk/video/x-ms-wmv.desktop from install of
 kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 kmplayer-0.7.4c-2mdk

 2°/ I remove kmplayer + kdemoreartwork-plastik but I force for
 mandrake-mime

 3°/ dependence problem for koffice :
 libvcard.so.0 is needed by (installed)
 libkoffice2-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 libvcard.so.0 is needed by (installed) koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk

 + conflict with koffice :

 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/mathml+xml.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.palm.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-kudesigner.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-magicpoint.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-vnd.kde.kexi.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 file
 /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-vnd.kde.kugar.mixed.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-vnd.adobe.photoshop.desktop from
 install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
 koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-vnd.trolltech.qpicture.desktop
 from install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from
 package koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk

I must rebuild a specific koffice package for kde3.2

 4°/ so urpme koffice ... and force for mandrake-mime. urpme kopete.
 Then urpmi qt3 kdepim-kontact kdemultimedia-common kdenetwork-kopete :

 Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
 1- libkdepim2-3.1.3-8mdk.i586
 2- libkdepim_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk.i586
 3- libkdepim2-common-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
 Que choisissez-vous ? (1-3)3
 Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
 1- libkdepim_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk.i586
 2- libkdepim2-kpilot-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
 Que choisissez-vous ? (1-2)2
 Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
 1- libkdepim_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk.i586
 2- libkdepim2-korganizer-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
 Que choisissez-vous ? (1-2)2
 Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
 1- libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
 2- libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
 Que choisissez-vous ? (1-2)1
 Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
 kdemultimedia-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
 (libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 absent)
 libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
 (libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 absent)
 libkdemultimedia1-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
 (libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 absent)
 libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586
 (libkdemultimedia1-noatun[== 3.1.3-16mdk] non satisfait) (O/n)
 Afin de poursuivre la mise à jour, les paquetages 

Re: [Cooker] kernel-mm rpm

[Buchan Milne]

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Austin wrote:
 On 09/26/2003 07:44:17 AM, Thomas Backlund wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hi Warly,
  any idea why the mirrors refuse to update to
  kernel-multimedia-source-2.4.22.10mm-1mdk-1-1mdk ?
  The kernels are there on all mirrors, but the source is still at
 9mm-1mdk.
  Is it because I provided kernel-source and some script disallows that?
 
  d.
 


 Danny, are you on the maintainers list?
 You're getting 'you have not included changes from previous version in
 changelog error'.  Rediff your changelog against the CVS.



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- - sync with latest tmb
- - correct changelog versioning
- - provide kernel-source
- - really fix lowlat (Duane)

The 2nd entry here could be the problem. According to earlier painful
experiments by others, you can't change the previous changelog (you can
change the older ones though).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[FACORAT Fabrice]

Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 16:09, Laurent Montel a écrit : 
 Hi,
 I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test.
 For the moment MDK menu doesn't work.
 I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400.
 I will apply them after.
 
 There is some update problem:
 - kmail, knode, korn moved from kdenetwork to kdepim
 - split is not again perfect (so report all split problem please)
 - mdk menu not supported
 - there is a problem with mandrake-galaxy program it frozes kwin (I don't 
 know why :( = I add a conflict and uninstall it please before to launch kde)

Note : I don't delete my old ~/.kde.

I copy all the file in a directory and add it as a urpmi source.
I unistall first kdepim and kdenetwork packages ( kmail, korganizer, ...
libkde... ), then urpmi kdebase.

1°/ conflict with kmplayer + mandrake-mime + kdemoreartwork-plastik

file /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/Plastik.kcsrc from
install of kdebase-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
kdemoreartwork-plastik-0.3.3-1mdk

file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/pgp.desktop from install of
kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-php.desktop from install
of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/model/vrml.desktop from install of
kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/video/x-ms-asf.desktop from install of
kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
mandrake-mime-0.4-3mdk

file /usr/share/mimelnk/video/x-ms-wmv.desktop from install of
kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
kmplayer-0.7.4c-2mdk

2°/ I remove kmplayer + kdemoreartwork-plastik but I force for
mandrake-mime

3°/ dependence problem for koffice :
libvcard.so.0 is needed by (installed)
libkoffice2-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
libvcard.so.0 is needed by (installed) koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk

+ conflict with koffice :

file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/mathml+xml.desktop from
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.palm.desktop from
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-kudesigner.desktop from
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-magicpoint.desktop from
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-vnd.kde.kexi.desktop from
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
file
/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-vnd.kde.kugar.mixed.desktop from
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-vnd.adobe.photoshop.desktop from
install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from package
koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk
file /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-vnd.trolltech.qpicture.desktop
from install of kdelibs-common-3.1.92-2mdk conflicts with file from
package koffice-1.3-0.beta3.6mdk

4°/ so urpme koffice ... and force for mandrake-mime. urpme kopete.
Then urpmi qt3 kdepim-kontact kdemultimedia-common kdenetwork-kopete :

Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
1- libkdepim2-3.1.3-8mdk.i586
2- libkdepim_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk.i586
3- libkdepim2-common-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
Que choisissez-vous ? (1-3)3
Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
1- libkdepim_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk.i586
2- libkdepim2-kpilot-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
Que choisissez-vous ? (1-2)2
Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
1- libkdepim_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk.i586
2- libkdepim2-korganizer-3.1.92-3mdk.i586
Que choisissez-vous ? (1-2)2
Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire :
1- libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
2- libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
Que choisissez-vous ? (1-2)1
Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
kdemultimedia-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
(libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 absent)
libkdemultimedia1-common-devel-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
(libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 absent)
libkdemultimedia1-noatun-3.1.92-1mdk.i586
(libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 absent)
libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586
(libkdemultimedia1-noatun[== 3.1.3-16mdk] non satisfait) (O/n)
Afin de poursuivre la mise à jour, les paquetages suivants doivent être
désinstallés :
kdemultimedia-noatun-3.1.3-16mdk.i586 (libkdemultimedia1-noatun ==
3.1.3-16mdk non satisfait) (o/N) o
Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être
installés (290 Mo):
kdemultimedia-common-3.1.92-1mdk.i586

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Brook Humphrey]

On Thursday 25 September 2003 06:31 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:

 Heck, I'm all for it and agree with all your reasons.  But the example is a
 touch out... wu-ftpd hasn't been in main since 8.2 (last version it shipped
 in main).

 Hey, while we're at it, can we throw sendmail in contribs?  =)

 (Serious about killing wu-ftpd altogether, semi-serious about sendmail)

I'm with you vincent sendmail is well it's. I wont say it would not be nice 
but I would not mind seeing it go. Postfix is more than good enough to take 
it's place for those that choose it as are many other options out there.
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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Austin]

On 09/26/2003 09:38:37 AM, Götz Waschk wrote:
It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a
package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the
same version and release tags.
Hmmm, this is a neat idea.  At present, any mdk rpm you grab off the net, you  
have no idea what mandrake release it is built for.

Would that work, having epoch: 9.2 in every package?  We use epoch so rarely  
that it might be okay, and we could use 9.2.1 if we REALLY needed a new epoch,  
right?

Of course this would require a total rebuild of the distro, edited by hand...  
no small task.  Maybe this could be done at the same time that we switch to a  
full-distro rebuild robot that would force everyone to fix their buildrequires  
(me especially).

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[Cooker] [Bug 4858] [kdeartwork] XScreensaver hacks are missing from the KDE screensaver list

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http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4858





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list of available screensavers. All of the hacks are available in GNOME and in
XScreensaver configuration utility. Also if I install KDE 3.1.3 from Texstar it
displays all the XScreensaver hacks, It appears that only Mandrake KDE doesn't
show them all.

[Cooker] [Bug 5977] [fontconfig] font cache files need to be removed and fc-cache run for each user

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The postinstall script of fontconfig has this:
postinstall scriptlet (using /bin/sh):
/usr/bin/fc-cache -f /dev/null


I'm sure there's also some script that starts fontconfig for the user, maybe an
X startup script?

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In one of my machines, where I ran ML 9.0, then 9.1 and now current cooker,  
I had a longstanding problem with fonts. I could get them to work fine under 
KDE (antialiased fonts), but then Gnome apps and Mozilla had ugly fonts, etc. 
Even DrakConf had ugly fonts. 
 
Long story short. I deleted all the ~/.font* files and I ran fc-cache as a 
normal user, and I fixed most of the problems. Except for DrakConf, that is 
ran as root. Then I deleted /root/.font* and run fc-cache as root and now 
everything is ok. It looks like I had some old crap in these files ruining 
my xfs behavior. 
 
Shouldn't this processed be done automatically by some postinstall script 
after installing fontconfig, a new Xserver o new fonts ?  
 
Also, there was a problem with KDE previews a month ago or so, that was solved 
by running fc-cache as root. fc-cache runs very fast, so it's not an issue to 
include it in post-install scripts IMHO ...

[Cooker] [Bug 5745] [xfce] Netscape, rather than Mozilla, still on the toolbar

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Hey, XFce 4 was released today!:-) Just in time to make it into the 9.2 distro -
or...?

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too). Should be updated to use/link to Mozilla instead.

Re: [Cooker] How to write a Mandrake HOWTO ?

[Svetoslav Slavtchev]

 On Friday 26 September 2003 06:09, Austin wrote:
  markup?  Also, the document is then not easily published
  elsewhere.  Is there an easy way to convert wiki markup to
  pure HTML, or PDF, or some other publishing format?
 
 If you're using Twiki, they have a publishing plugin that 
 converts an entire wiki to interlinked static HTML files.  It 
 looks better and needs a lot less work and server load than 
 trying something with wget.  I have it set up on the wiki for 
 Gambas to generate once a day (since the Gambas wiki has kinda 
 gotten a little complicated to do it on demand.)  See the front 
 page of http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/ for a link to the 
 static version, and www.twiki.org (uh, somewhere within it... 
 the whole thing's a wiki) for the plugin.
 
 I haven't figured out a way to convert to PDF *usefully*, but the 
 quick and dirty method would be to take the static files 
 generated by the above method and oowriter --print them to a pdf 
 file.  I don't think that would look very good though.
 
 Despite this shortcoming, I think wikis are the way to go for 
 community based documentation as long as someone sets up a 
 document hierarchy when the wiki's put in place (in Gambas' 
 case, I converted some documentation in a SXW file and wrote a 
 program to pull class documentation out of the IDE, but people 
 are free to add stuff outside those initial structures as well.)

i think i read smth about a wiki that supports docbook xml,
(but i can not find the mail right now, 
and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ml server gives error on searching :( )

 from docbook xml you can really easy create pdf, html, 
for dynamic conversation apache + cocoon is a good solution i think
(at least for smaller documents, with my ~100page howto is a bit of pain)
see

http://www.xml-dev.com:8080/cocoon/mount/docbook/linux-faq.html
http://www.xml-dev.com:8080/cocoon/mount/docbook/Apache-WebDAV-LDAP-HOWTO.html
for pdf just replace the .html extension with .pdf

svetljo

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[Cooker] Silicon Image SATA Controler

[Francois RUNAVOT]

Hello.



I have an Abit NF7-S motherboard, 2 HD drives on the
SATA controller (Silicon Image 31112).

I have made install with linux noacpi apic=off.


When I try to install Mandrake Linux 9.2RC2 i have some
errors when install try to make some partitions or format the drive :

hdg sata_error = 0x , watchdog = 0 ,
siimage_mmio_ide_dma_test_irq

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Teletchéa Stéphane]

Le ven 26/09/2003 à 12:32, Austin a écrit :
 On 09/26/2003 09:38:37 AM, Götz Waschk wrote:
  It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a
  package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the
  same version and release tags.
 
 Hmmm, this is a neat idea.  At present, any mdk rpm you grab off the net, you  
 have no idea what mandrake release it is built for.
 
 Would that work, having epoch: 9.2 in every package?  We use epoch so rarely  
 that it might be okay, and we could use 9.2.1 if we REALLY needed a new epoch,  
 right?
 
 Of course this would require a total rebuild of the distro, edited by hand...  
 no small task.  Maybe this could be done at the same time that we switch to a  
 full-distro rebuild robot that would force everyone to fix their buildrequires  
 (me especially).
 
 Austin

BTW, why not putting what is not working correctly on a wiki page : it
seems to me that this versioning problem is just a part of the iceberg,
so like this everyone can complain, and a better solution can come from
having a better view of common/concurrent problems for urpmi.

For example in the specific case cited above, it shows the limiting
numbering philosophy OR may be one rule could be applied : when two
packages have the same name, only the main one should be used.

This leads to the second question : why is this happening, should all
contrib packages named as it (ctb instead of mdk for example, like plf
...) or another info in the package itself.

Or : since the package can be buitl with version 2 and 3, any indication
of this ...

Just some thoughts ...

Stef


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Re: [Cooker] Silicon Image SATA Controler

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Francois RUNAVOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello.
 
  
 
 I have an Abit NF7-S motherboard, 2 HD drives on the SATA controller
 (Silicon Image 31112).
 
 I have made install with linux noacpi apic=off. 

you mixed them :)

use acpi=off noapic

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Brook Humphrey]

On Thursday 25 September 2003 09:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
 I don't mind pure-ftpd being default, although it we want secure I still
 maintain that vsftpd is what we want.  Can't beat it for security.  Of
 course, it's a little spartan on the feature side as well.

I'll admit here that I'm not very familiar with vsftpd but I can say pure-ftpd 
is not spartan at all and is constantly being maintained. 

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Brook Humphrey]

On Thursday 25 September 2003 09:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:

 Personally, if pure-ftpd can't authenticate against LDAP (like proftpd
 can), I'm not overly interested.  =)  proftpd may have some issues
 periodically, but you can't beat it for configurability.

Here is only a small portion of the features. I did not do the whole thing as 
it is much longer than this list.

- FTP accounts can be distinct from system accounts, stored in an independant 
database. Multiple accounts can share the same system id. A built-in indexing 
database allows very fast lookups. It is sucessfully running with over 1.5 
million accounts on the same server. System accounts can be copied to virtual 
FTP accounts, so that users can have different passwords for shell access and 
FTP access.

- LDAP authentication is also fully supported. Plaintext, Crypt, MD5, SMD5, 
SHA and SSHA crypto hash functions are implemented. Pure-FTPd was 
successfully tested with OpenLDAP and iPlanet Directory Server. It uses 
standard posixAccounts classes.

- Built-in secure cryptographic hashes (SMD5, SSHA) can be used with any LDAP 
server, even those that are lacking support for these hashes.

- User info can also be centralized in MySQL databases, with or without 
transactions. All queries are fully customizable, and requests can be built 
with user names, remote client addresses, local IP addresses and ports. That 
way, complex hosting rules can be easily implemented, even with multiple 
virtual servers on the same host, and multiple virtual domains with many 
users.

- Multiple authentication methods can be chained in any order. For instance, 
SQL accounts, LDAP directories and system accounts can be used at the same 
time.

- Custom authentication methods can easily be added. Pure-FTPd supports 
external authentication modules, and writing a new backend can be as simple 
as a few lines of shell script.

- Pure-FTPd supports a virtual quota system : accounts can have individual 
quota (max number of files, max total size) even when they share the same 
system uid.

- Bandwidth throttling is supported, with distinct settings for upload and 
download.

- Every user can be assigned individual quota, ratio and bandwidth.

- Every user can be allowed to connect only from a specific range on IP 
address, or only to its own virtual host.

- Every user can be individually restricted to his home directory or not.

- Every user can be allowed to connect only during configured time-ranges 
(e.g. only during business hours).

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[Cooker] [Bug 5957] [rpm] 9.2RC2 - Package installs fails to update menues

[[fcrozat]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5957


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Product|menu|rpm
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rpm bug..

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kdegames 
kdemultimedia 
openoffice 
 
In the case of openoffice, when the user had relogged in twice, the menu 
updated. The others failed to update.

[Cooker] pcmcia.img doesn't boot

[Mark Draheim]

it won't even show the first boot screen. I tried several floppies and
even burnt the image to CD to make sure that my floppy drive isn't
faulty. I downloaded the img again just in case the file was corrupted
at download.

This is on an old Pentium 233 laptop. The network.img boots just fine
but it doesn't have the module for my pcmcia ethernet card.

Mark

Re: [Cooker] When rsync'ing I seem to be getting these files over and over

[Brook Humphrey]

On Friday 26 September 2003 03:27 am, John Allen wrote:
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-DocBook-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.r
pm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-Frontend-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.
rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-doc-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noar
ch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakfirsttime-0.92-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakwizard-2.5-1mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.9mdk.noa
rch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-de-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.
rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.9
mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-es-9.2-0.9
mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-fr-9.2-0.9
mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.
rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-es-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.
rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-fr-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.
rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-it-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.
rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-ru-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.
rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_theme-0.1.1-1mdk.noarch.r
pm Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mkcd-3.6.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm


I get these same files also. Over and over and over. For about 5 or 6 days 
now.
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[Cooker] [Bug 5977] [fontconfig] font cache files need to be removed and fc-cache run for each user

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It is not needed, fontconfig apps dynamically update their own cache (as user)
if they are not consistent. And each time new fonts are added by a package,
fc-cache is called on the system.

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In one of my machines, where I ran ML 9.0, then 9.1 and now current cooker,  
I had a longstanding problem with fonts. I could get them to work fine under 
KDE (antialiased fonts), but then Gnome apps and Mozilla had ugly fonts, etc. 
Even DrakConf had ugly fonts. 
 
Long story short. I deleted all the ~/.font* files and I ran fc-cache as a 
normal user, and I fixed most of the problems. Except for DrakConf, that is 
ran as root. Then I deleted /root/.font* and run fc-cache as root and now 
everything is ok. It looks like I had some old crap in these files ruining 
my xfs behavior. 
 
Shouldn't this processed be done automatically by some postinstall script 
after installing fontconfig, a new Xserver o new fonts ?  
 
Also, there was a problem with KDE previews a month ago or so, that was solved 
by running fc-cache as root. fc-cache runs very fast, so it's not an issue to 
include it in post-install scripts IMHO ...

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It is not needed, fontconfig apps dynamically update their own cache (as user)
if they are not consistent. And each time new fonts are added by a package,
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I had a longstanding problem with fonts. I could get them to work fine under 
KDE (antialiased fonts), but then Gnome apps and Mozilla had ugly fonts, etc. 
Even DrakConf had ugly fonts. 
 
Long story short. I deleted all the ~/.font* files and I ran fc-cache as a 
normal user, and I fixed most of the problems. Except for DrakConf, that is 
ran as root. Then I deleted /root/.font* and run fc-cache as root and now 
everything is ok. It looks like I had some old crap in these files ruining 
my xfs behavior. 
 
Shouldn't this processed be done automatically by some postinstall script 
after installing fontconfig, a new Xserver o new fonts ?  
 
Also, there was a problem with KDE previews a month ago or so, that was solved 
by running fc-cache as root. fc-cache runs very fast, so it's not an issue to 
include it in post-install scripts IMHO ...

Re: [Cooker] pcmcia.img doesn't boot

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Mark Draheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 it won't even show the first boot screen. I tried several floppies and
 even burnt the image to CD to make sure that my floppy drive isn't
 faulty. I downloaded the img again just in case the file was corrupted
 at download.

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6f0dcf4e4bc72d347a05fee4e9471a6a  /c/cooker/images/pcmcia.img
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp] md5sum /dev/fd0
6f0dcf4e4bc72d347a05fee4e9471a6a  /dev/fd0

On my test machine, shows the splash screen, white progressbar
progresses, kernel boot (2.4.22-10mdkBOOT), stage1 starts.

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[Cooker] [Bug 5980] [drakxtools] New: generate bad init order with laptop

[[fbourgeois]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5980

   Product: drakxtools
 Component: DrakConnect
   Summary: generate bad init order with laptop
   Product: drakxtools
   Version: 9.2-16mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: minor
  Priority: P4
 Component: DrakConnect
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ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


just a little improvement for laptop owners with pcmcia network device :

when drackconnect configure the network interface, it generate the network init
startup script before the pcmcia configuration device one. It was the same in
previous Mandrake versions. It causes the internet connection to be inactive at
startup. 

Personnaly i modified the startup scripts order by hand in '/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/'
but i think it could be a small job for a good improvement (mostly for newbies).

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Buchan Milne]

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Austin wrote:
 On 09/26/2003 09:38:37 AM, Götz Waschk wrote:

 It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a
 package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the
 same version and release tags.


 Hmmm, this is a neat idea.  At present, any mdk rpm you grab off the
 net, you  have no idea what mandrake release it is built for.

At one stage, I had:
%distribution Mandrake Linux %distro_rel

(and a bit before it - which is still there since I use it in other
macros - :
%distro_rel %(awk '{print $4}' /etc/mandrake-release)
)

But rpmlint doesn't like this.


 Would that work, having epoch: 9.2 in every package?  We use epoch so
 rarely  that it might be okay, and we could use 9.2.1 if we REALLY
 needed a new epoch,  right?

 Of course this would require a total rebuild of the distro, edited by
 hand...  no small task.  Maybe this could be done at the same time that
 we switch to a  full-distro rebuild robot that would force everyone to
 fix their buildrequires  (me especially).

I don't know if automatic rebuilds can easily (and reliably) change
version numbers or release numbers. Epoch numbers would have to be
evaluated at build time, adding the packages own Epoch number, without
having a recursive macro (which rpm doesn't like).

For the meantime, decrementing the release number by decimals may be a
better idea.

BTW, I actually need a solution for this too. At present, all samba
builds from the source release get identical %{version}-%{release} which
is probably a bad thing ...

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] [Bug 5981] [kernel] New: supermount failure for bad cdrom

[[udo]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5981

   Product: kernel
 Component: program
   Summary: supermount failure for bad cdrom
   Product: kernel
   Version: 2.4.22-10mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


If I try to mount bad cdrom's with via supermount, I have a very strange effect
in /mnt.

here's what I do:

1. insert bad cd

2. % mount
[...]
none on /mnt/floppy type supermount
(rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=utf8,umask=0)
none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount
(ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=utf8,umask=0)
[...]

3. % cd /mnt

4. % ls -la
drwxr-xr-x7 root root 4096 Sep 21 23:08 ./
drwxr-xr-x   21 root root 4096 Sep 26 08:35 ../
drwxrwxrwx0 root root0 Sep 26 12:23 cdrom/
drwxrwxrwx0 root root0 Sep 26 08:35 floppy/

5. % ls -la cdrom
-bash: cd: cdrom/: Input/output error

6. % ls -la cdrom/
ls: cdrom/: Not a directory

7. % ls -la
drwxr-xr-x7 root root 4096 Sep 21 23:08 ./
drwxr-xr-x   21 root root 4096 Sep 26 08:35 ../
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Sep  7 19:25 camera/
--1 root root0 Sep 26 12:23 cdrom

8. % rm -rf cdrom
rm: remove.c:995: remove_dir: Assertion `saved_errno == 1' failed.
Aborted (core dumped)

... what has happened to my cdrom directory?

Workaround is to umount /mnt/cdrom and mount it again.

The system is in sync with current cooker and no manual modifications in
/etc/fstab (if that matters).

and another comment: bugzilla has 2.4.22-3 as current kernel, though there is a
2.4.22-10 in the list ...

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Re: [Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test

[Götz Waschk]

Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 11:49:44 Uhr MET, schrieb jokerman64:
 conflicts exist between your bittorrent-gui and and kdelibs-common for 3.2 
 alpha 2.

For which file?
I guess it's this one:
/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop

 I don't know what the common practice is but one of them needs to be removed 
 (probably yours at some point in time). I don't know if you got my last 
 message but 3.3-1gpw worked just fine

I think so. I haven't received your message about 3.3-1gpw. 

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[Cooker] SATA Controler Silicon Image 3112

[Francois RUNAVOT]

Hello.

( I had made an error in my old mail)

I have an Abit NF7-S motherboard, 2 HD drives on the
SATA controller (Silicon Image 3112).

I have made install with linux acpi=off noapic.


When I try to install Mandrake Linux 9.2RC2 i have
some errors when install try to make some partitions or format the drive :

hdg sata_error = 0x , watchdog = 0 ,
siimage_mmio_ide_dma_test_irq

Re: [Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test

[Götz Waschk]

  (probably yours at some point in time). I don't know if you got my last 
  message but 3.3-1gpw worked just fine
OK nevermind, I've found it, it was just another thread.
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Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[obennett]

On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:09, Laurent Montel wrote:
 Hi,
 I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test.
 For the moment MDK menu doesn't work.
 I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400.
 I will apply them after.

 There is some update problem:
 - kmail, knode, korn moved from kdenetwork to kdepim
 - split is not again perfect (so report all split problem please)
 - mdk menu not supported
 - there is a problem with mandrake-galaxy program it frozes kwin (I don't
 know why :( = I add a conflict and uninstall it please before to launch
 kde)

 I ported galaxy theme to kwin 3.

 MDK menu entry exists but they don't use by kde3.2

 I compile all with --enable-debug=full = -g3

 News in KDE 3.2 see http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-
 features.html

 Big improvment of kmail/knodes
 Support SVG format (static and dynamic SVG)
 Add new program:
 - kpdf = frontend to xpdf
 - ksvg
 - kontact see http://kontact.kde.org/
 - kopete now it's into kdenetwork
 - kwallet gestion of passwd

 So report bugs found please.
 KDE config bugs please (config upgrade) etc.

 Regards.

 For the moment this packages is not into cooker, so you can download it
 from http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/

 PS: save your config file
 PS2: save your mail

 BECAREFULL it's package for test .
would've sent this last night but kmail settings got mangled and I had to hunt 
down the prob.

kdeaddons requires libkdemultimedia-common-devel or 
libkdemultimedia-noatun-devel  
libkdeaddons also requires libkdegames

Re: [Cooker] How to write a Mandrake HOWTO ?

[Buchan Milne]

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Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
On Friday 26 September 2003 06:09, Austin wrote:

markup?  Also, the document is then not easily published
elsewhere.  Is there an easy way to convert wiki markup to
pure HTML, or PDF, or some other publishing format?

If you're using Twiki, they have a publishing plugin that
converts an entire wiki to interlinked static HTML files.  It
looks better and needs a lot less work and server load than
trying something with wget.  I have it set up on the wiki for
Gambas to generate once a day (since the Gambas wiki has kinda
gotten a little complicated to do it on demand.)  See the front
page of http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/ for a link to the
static version, and www.twiki.org (uh, somewhere within it...
the whole thing's a wiki) for the plugin.

Speaking of gambas, why isn't it in contrib yet? (I had meant to try and
work on this, but ran out of time ...).


I haven't figured out a way to convert to PDF *usefully*, but the
quick and dirty method would be to take the static files
generated by the above method and oowriter --print them to a pdf
file.  I don't think that would look very good though.

htmldoc may be better for this specific case.


Despite this shortcoming, I think wikis are the way to go for
community based documentation as long as someone sets up a
document hierarchy when the wiki's put in place (in Gambas'
case, I converted some documentation in a SXW file and wrote a
program to pull class documentation out of the IDE, but people
are free to add stuff outside those initial structures as well.)


 i think i read smth about a wiki that supports docbook xml,
 (but i can not find the mail right now,
 and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ml server gives error on searching :( )

There are two perl tools, wt2db and db2omf that could theoretically be
useful, but they don't seem to generate anything useful from the twiki
stuff I tried.

http://tldp.org/wt2db/
http://tldp.org/db2omf/

BTW, the issue isn't only generating documentation, but also ensuring
that it is easy to access (and I mean easier to access than the HTML
HOWTOs etc). That's where db2omf would come in, and should allow
searching and display with yelp and khelpcenter.


  from docbook xml you can really easy create pdf, html, 
 for dynamic conversation apache + cocoon is a good solution i think
 (at least for smaller documents, with my ~100page howto is a bit of pain)
 see

The other issue is maybe conglomerate is about ready for use for
large-scale editing of docbook? It would just need use to have some
versioning system (which the wiki currently provides).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Vincent Danen]

On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 08:14:36AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote:

  Of course, I still don't get why we're jumping all over proftpd. It
  isn't really *that* insecure. As I pointed out to Han regarding wu-
  ftpd, proftpd is in a similar boat. There is this hole, which should
  be available in updates RSN, but the last one was in Jan 2002... over
  a year and a half ago. Again, comparing to sendmail, this sucker is
  pretty secure. Heck, compare it to openssh! How many updates for
  openssh have there been in the same timespan?
 
  We can't just throw stuff out the window because it has a hole today
  and has had one over a year or two years ago. That's just silly. Why
  aren't we jumping up and down about ditching php? Or apache? Or cups?
  Or XFree86? Or bind? Or openldap? The list goes on. All of those have
  been updated within the last 1-2 years as well, some many many times.
 
 It's also about the magnitude of the hole. How big are the chances they
 will be found again. The recent ssh-hole was technically speaking a
 remote crash, not nice but nothing dramatic. You still have to patch it
 but that's something I can live with.
 On the other hand a remote root is a remote root and that is something
 I really would like to avoid.
 
 Once more. The size of the hole is more important than how often people
 require you to patch.

Very true.  But every openssh vuln hasn't been a crash or DoS.  Mind you,
with openssh a DoS is bad enough.  Need to remote admin servers?  What
happens if the server goes down and you're stuck driving a long time to get
to the machine?  (It's happened).

A DoS in apache is one thing... ssh in and restart.  A DoS in ssh is
another...  how do you ssh in to fix it if ssh doesn't work?

So don't think of it in technical terms...  put it in real-world situations
and then re-evaluate how bad the problem is.

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Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[jokerman64]

On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:09, Laurent Montel wrote:
 Hi,
 I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test.
 For the moment MDK menu doesn't work.
 I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400.
 I will apply them after.

 There is some update problem:
 - kmail, knode, korn moved from kdenetwork to kdepim
 - split is not again perfect (so report all split problem please)
 - mdk menu not supported
 - there is a problem with mandrake-galaxy program it frozes kwin (I don't
 know why :( = I add a conflict and uninstall it please before to launch
 kde)

 I ported galaxy theme to kwin 3.

 MDK menu entry exists but they don't use by kde3.2

 I compile all with --enable-debug=full = -g3

 News in KDE 3.2 see http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-
 features.html

 Big improvment of kmail/knodes
 Support SVG format (static and dynamic SVG)
 Add new program:
 - kpdf = frontend to xpdf
 - ksvg
 - kontact see http://kontact.kde.org/
 - kopete now it's into kdenetwork
 - kwallet gestion of passwd
unfortunate kopete and kwallet don't work well together
should i report these (app related) bugs here or on kde bugzilla?
 So report bugs found please.
 KDE config bugs please (config upgrade) etc.

 Regards.

 For the moment this packages is not into cooker, so you can download it
 from http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/

 PS: save your config file
 PS2: save your mail

 BECAREFULL it's package for test .
more little packaging errors:
kppp and ksirc entries show up in the internet menu but i don't have them 
installed.
for kppp an icon is there too, 
/usr/share/applications/kde/Kppp.desktop
/usr/share/applications/kde/kppplogview.desktop
/usr/share/applications/kde/ksirc.desktop
are all from kdenetwork-common

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Vincent Danen]

On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 11:12:26AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

  Once more. The size of the hole is more important than how often people
  require you to patch.
 
 Well, then by it's history over the past year, sendmail should be the
 first kicked out the distro (3 potential remote root vulnerabilities
 plus another 2 DOS vulnerabilities). And I don't think there is much
 reason feature-wise to choose sendmail over postfix.
 
 I think second on the list would be samba, but I don't suppose anyone is
 going to propose a replacement ... (no, samba-tng doesn't count ...).
 
 BTW, a lot of the issues could be resolved if there were a standard
 mechanism for contrib updates. Vince, I think this was about the time
 you said we could start discussing it?

Ugh.  Ok, yes, it needs to be dealt with.  I'm just not sure of the best way
to handle it.  Does klama have chroots for older versions?  I'd think for
contribs, you only really need to worry about the last one, maybe two,
versions.  Ie. right now, contribs updates should be limited to 9.2,
possibly 9.1.

I do not want contribs in the official updates tree.  No discussion on that.
It will give the false illusion that contribs is supported, and updates to
contribs will be entirely user-driven.

So we can either make a new tree for the mirrors for contribs (I wouldn't be
adverse to a updates/contribs/[arch]/[ver], but that would preclude me
getting involved to some degree.

In my mind, the best solution is to put updates in Club.  That way they make
it to the Club mirrors and everyone can take advantage of them since
non-Club members can also access them.  That would be my best solution and
my preference.  Then I don't have to get involved at all.

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Re: [Cooker] How to write a Mandrake HOWTO ?

[Svetoslav Slavtchev]

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 Hash: SHA1
 
 Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
 On Friday 26 September 2003 06:09, Austin wrote:
 
 markup?  Also, the document is then not easily published
 elsewhere.  Is there an easy way to convert wiki markup to
 pure HTML, or PDF, or some other publishing format?
 
 If you're using Twiki, they have a publishing plugin that
 converts an entire wiki to interlinked static HTML files.  It
 looks better and needs a lot less work and server load than
 trying something with wget.  I have it set up on the wiki for
 Gambas to generate once a day (since the Gambas wiki has kinda
 gotten a little complicated to do it on demand.)  See the front
 page of http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/ for a link to the
 static version, and www.twiki.org (uh, somewhere within it...
 the whole thing's a wiki) for the plugin.
 
 Speaking of gambas, why isn't it in contrib yet? (I had meant to try and
 work on this, but ran out of time ...).
 
 
 I haven't figured out a way to convert to PDF *usefully*, but the
 quick and dirty method would be to take the static files
 generated by the above method and oowriter --print them to a pdf
 file.  I don't think that would look very good though.
 
 htmldoc may be better for this specific case.
 
 
 Despite this shortcoming, I think wikis are the way to go for
 community based documentation as long as someone sets up a
 document hierarchy when the wiki's put in place (in Gambas'
 case, I converted some documentation in a SXW file and wrote a
 program to pull class documentation out of the IDE, but people
 are free to add stuff outside those initial structures as well.)
 
 
  i think i read smth about a wiki that supports docbook xml,
  (but i can not find the mail right now,
  and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ml server gives error on searching :( )

think it was this :
http://www.docbook.org/wiki/moin.cgi/
but having 2 sorts of wiki ? 

 There are two perl tools, wt2db and db2omf that could theoretically be
 useful, but they don't seem to generate anything useful from the twiki
 stuff I tried.
 
 http://tldp.org/wt2db/
 http://tldp.org/db2omf/
 
 BTW, the issue isn't only generating documentation, but also ensuring
 that it is easy to access (and I mean easier to access than the HTML
 HOWTOs etc). That's where db2omf would come in, and should allow
 searching and display with yelp and khelpcenter. 
 
   from docbook xml you can really easy create pdf, html, 
  for dynamic conversation apache + cocoon is a good solution i think
  (at least for smaller documents, with my ~100page howto is a bit of
 pain)
  see
 
 The other issue is maybe conglomerate is about ready for use for
 large-scale editing of docbook? It would just need use to have some
 versioning system (which the wiki currently provides).

isn't versioning supported by all wiki's ?

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Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[FACORAT Fabrice]

Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 16:09, Laurent Montel a écrit :
 I compile all with --enable-debug=full = -g3

I don't know if this is related but quanta is pretty unusable !
I have a big 3000+ lines PHP file, and quanta eat 99% CPU, is
sloo and when I write something it takes more than 10 seconds to
write it in editor ( Athlon XP 1900+, 256Mo ).
On top of that it forgets my old syntax highlighting settings. 

 - kpdf = frontend to xpdf

[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]$ rpm -q kdegraphics-kpdf
kdegraphics-kpdf-3.1.92-3mdk

but I don't have kpdf binary file.

 - kontact see http://kontact.kde.org/

contact is very slow. And the UI need to e improved.

 - kwallet gestion of passwd

icons were 48x48 so I had to set them to 32x32. Note : i don't delete my
~/.kde so I expect kde to take my old icon size.

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Vincent Danen]

On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 03:38:37PM +0200, Götz Waschk wrote:

  configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX
 
 This is a good idea. I hope the suits don't decide against this to
 protect the added value of their powerpack DVDs.
 
  possiblity to nuke files with standard virus extension in postfix (.exe,
  .pif..)
 
 I somehow misread this for plf :-)
 
 
 Which leads me to another problem: backported packages: Projects like
 plf sometimes need to backport cooker or contrib packages to the
 stable distribution. This can lead to problems when upgrading to the
 next stable distribution, when the release number of the package
 didn't change. Here's an example:
 
 - install foobar-1.2-3mdk backported from cooker to Mandrake
 9.1, obviously based on libbaz2.
 - upgrade the distribution to 9.2. 9.2 has libbaz3 and
 foobar-1.2.3mdk based on libbaz3
 - as the version and release numbers stay the same, the foobar package
 doesn't get updated to the version linked against libbaz3
 
 It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a
 package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the
 same version and release tags.

Start doing what I'm doing for updates.

If you backport 1.2-3mdk from cooker (and we'll asusme 1.2-2mdk or lower is
in 9.2), drop the version to 1.2-2.1mdk or, what I'm starting to do,
something like 1.2-2.1.92mdk.

This then makes it implicit for 9.2, the version is dropped so it's higher
than what is in 9.2 (2mdk) but lower than what is currently in cooker
(3mdk).

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] screem0.7.1-0.7.1-1mdk

[FACORAT Fabrice]

Le dim 03/08/2003 à 21:00, Charles A Edwards a écrit :
 [Contrib-RPM]
 
 --=-=-=
 Name: screem0.7.1  Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 0.7.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Sun Aug  3 22:50:29 2003

[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]# urpmi screem0.7.1

   
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/screem0.7.1-0.7.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
Les paquetages suivants ont des signatures non valides:
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/screem0.7.1-0.7.1-1mdk.i586.rpm: Signature absente
(sha1 md5 OK)
Voulez-vous continuer l'installation ? (o/N) o
installation de /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/screem0.7.1-0.7.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
L'installation a échoué:
screem  0.7.1 conflicts with screem0.7.1-0.7.1-1mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]# rpm -qa | grep screem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]#

[Cooker] [Mandrake 10] more ideas for next MDK

[Diego Iastrubni]

I always see Mandrake as a desktop distro, so my wishes are from that side.

mcc:
* bring back capabilities for changing the lilo/grub theme
* real support for linmodems (even if the drivers will not be on the d/l 
edition)
* in 8.2 it had themes, where did they go?
* lirc mcc module

mdk-kdm:
* if could not bring X up, write a messages in console like gdm does
* full screen greeter (again gdm like)
* if no key pressed in X secs, log in as ... (again from gdm)
* avility to run some program for changing the background (roottv for example)

misc:
* add the mouse cursors packages to main
* l10n for Mozilla
* l10n for OO.org
* bring FireBird to main instead of Mozilla
* use also apt-get (with the same repositories, IMHO this can be done no?), 
let the user which app use to install rpms.
* bring sim to main
* patch wine to be able to use mono's winforms
* mono in mdk out of the box! (if sharp develop will run on mono bring it on 
baby!)

IMHO gcc and glibc  can stay at thecurrent version, unless the bugs in gcc 
will be fixed and glibc will not break anything like 2.3 did :)

- diego

Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

[jokerman64]

On Friday 26 September 2003 14:16, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
 Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 16:09, Laurent Montel a écrit :
  I compile all with --enable-debug=full = -g3

 I don't know if this is related but quanta is pretty unusable !
 I have a big 3000+ lines PHP file, and quanta eat 99% CPU, is
 sloo and when I write something it takes more than 10 seconds to
 write it in editor ( Athlon XP 1900+, 256Mo ).
 On top of that it forgets my old syntax highlighting settings.
yeah, syntax highlighting is gone but i think it's cause you have to download 
them. Check out configure  editor  highlighting. There is a download button 
there that automatically download  whichever highlighting schemes you select
  - kpdf = frontend to xpdf

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]$ rpm -q kdegraphics-kpdf
 kdegraphics-kpdf-3.1.92-3mdk

 but I don't have kpdf binary file.
Yup it is indeed missing
  - kontact see http://kontact.kde.org/

 contact is very slow. And the UI need to e improved.
i don't know speed seems ok to me on an athlon 2000+ (but downclocked to 1800
+) w/ 256 MB ram.
  - kwallet gestion of passwd

 icons were 48x48 so I had to set them to 32x32. Note : i don't delete my
 ~/.kde so I expect kde to take my old icon size.

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Vincent Danen]

On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 03:29:28AM -0400, Brook Humphrey wrote:

  Heck, I'm all for it and agree with all your reasons.  But the example is a
  touch out... wu-ftpd hasn't been in main since 8.2 (last version it shipped
  in main).
 
  Hey, while we're at it, can we throw sendmail in contribs?  =)
 
  (Serious about killing wu-ftpd altogether, semi-serious about sendmail)
 
 I'm with you vincent sendmail is well it's. I wont say it would not be nice 
 but I would not mind seeing it go. Postfix is more than good enough to take 
 it's place for those that choose it as are many other options out there.

Well, let's put it this way.  For about 2 years now I've wanted sendmail in
contribs and if we really needed another MTA alternative to postfix, I have
very nice exim packages on rpmhelp.net and exim is a really nice MTA.

Not that this is a plug to put exim in main (doesn't matter to me... it's
available via rpmhelp.net), but a definite looking forward to not having
sendmail in main anymore.

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

[Vincent Danen]

On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 05:57:52PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

  It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a
  package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the
  same version and release tags.
 
 
  Hmmm, this is a neat idea.  At present, any mdk rpm you grab off the
  net, you  have no idea what mandrake release it is built for.
 
 At one stage, I had:
 %distribution Mandrake Linux %distro_rel
 
 (and a bit before it - which is still there since I use it in other
 macros - :
 %distro_rel %(awk '{print $4}' /etc/mandrake-release)
 )
 
 But rpmlint doesn't like this.
 
 
  Would that work, having epoch: 9.2 in every package?  We use epoch so
  rarely  that it might be okay, and we could use 9.2.1 if we REALLY
  needed a new epoch,  right?
 
  Of course this would require a total rebuild of the distro, edited by
  hand...  no small task.  Maybe this could be done at the same time that
  we switch to a  full-distro rebuild robot that would force everyone to
  fix their buildrequires  (me especially).
 
 I don't know if automatic rebuilds can easily (and reliably) change
 version numbers or release numbers. Epoch numbers would have to be
 evaluated at build time, adding the packages own Epoch number, without
 having a recursive macro (which rpm doesn't like).
 
 For the meantime, decrementing the release number by decimals may be a
 better idea.
 
 BTW, I actually need a solution for this too. At present, all samba
 builds from the source release get identical %{version}-%{release} which
 is probably a bad thing ...

%define version 3.0
%define release 1
%define distro 92 

Version: %version
Release: %release.%distromdk

so you end up with 3.0-1.92mdk

umm.. untested.  =)  But you get the idea.

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[Cooker] [Bug 5980] [drakxtools] generate bad init order with laptop

[[lamikr_mdk]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5980





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-26-09 12:57 ---
This explains the problems I have had with the xircom network card and HP
laptop. Please fix this before releasing 9.2! I have previously talked from
this problem in the thread Xircom PCMCIA driver loading problem couple of days ago.

As I have reported in that discussion thread, I have eth0 used by the XIRCOM up
but I need to run ifcontif eth0 ... and route add default gateway ...
command by hand as a root to get everything working.

Here are my syslog and dmesg logs displaying the problem.

1) Syslog

Sep 20 17:55:34 ling2 keytable:  succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:35 ling2 rc.sysinit: Enabling swap space:  succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:38 ling2 mandrake_everytime: Building Window Manager Sessions succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:39 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:39 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:39 ling2 mandrake_everytime: Starting netprofile:  succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:39 ling2 init: Entering runlevel: 5
Sep 20 17:55:39 ling2 rc: Starting switchprofile:  succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:41 ling2 service_harddrake[541]: ### Program is starting ###
Sep 20 17:55:48 ling2 service_harddrake[541]: created file
/etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/previous_hw
Sep 20 17:55:48 ling2 harddrake:  succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:48 ling2 network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:49 ling2 network: Bringing up loopback interface:  succeeded
Sep 20 17:55:49 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:49 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[672]: Using interface eth0
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:50 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:56 ling2 kernel: eth0: MII link partner: 0021
Sep 20 17:55:56 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[820]: Using interface eth0/00:10:A4:E5:2E:3C
with driver xirc2ps_cs (version: )
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation
not permitted
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: eth0: MII selected
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[820]: Using detection mode: SIOCDEVPRIVATE
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 modprobe: modprobe: insmod eth0 failed
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: eth0: media 10BaseT, silicon revision 4
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[820]: ifplugd 0.15 successfully initialized,
link beat detected.
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[672]: Failed to find working plug detection
mode for eth0
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:08.0
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[820]: Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action
eth0 up'.
Sep 20 17:55:51 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[672]: Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action
eth0 up'.
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:07.2
Sep 20 17:55:52 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[672]: client: xi
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: maestro: Configuring ESS Maestro 2E found at IO
0xF800 IRQ 10
Sep 20 17:55:52 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[672]: Program execution failed, return value
is 1.
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: maestro:  subvendor id: 0x000a103c
Sep 20 17:55:52 ling2 ifplugd(eth0)[672]: Exiting.
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: maestro: not attempting power management.
Sep 20 17:55:52 ling2 network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
Sep 20 17:55:57 ling2 kernel: maestro: AC97 Codec detected: v: 0x83847609 caps:
0x6940 pwr: 0xf
Sep 20 17:55:52 ling2 internet: Checking internet connections 

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?

[Vincent Danen]

On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 10:31:58AM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

   On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 07:59:30PM -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote:
I think the policy should be that anything which listens on a port
should not, under any circumstances, be in contribs, as contribs are
not generally updated; I'm sure that someone will come along with a
sendmail repository and do the updates themselves.
  
   I disagree. A lot of nice network-type software would be missing and I
   sure as heck don't want them all in main. What's wrong with having
   them in contribs? They aren't officially maintained... so what? Having
   them in contribs, joe sysadmin can grab the src.rpm for what he has
   installed, grab the new version or patch, and roll his own. It's still
   convenient for him to have it in contribs even if he doesn't get it
   via MandrakeUpdate.
 
  I does make sense if we have a note attached on them they can pose a
  security risk and if people use them they should take care they are up
  to date. Some sort of mechanism that keeps people informed about
  updates. For example xmule which was found to be exploitable
  recently. I expect more troubles from that program. A simple warning
  after installing wont even do... Can somebody come up with a decent
  solution to this problem?

Hmmm... didn't see this one.  I've got a solution.  Subscribe to
full-disclosure.  You'll see what other vendors are putting out and you'll
be able to see what needs fixing.

 Actually, there is no point just explaining servers in contrib are not 
 updated. A real explanation of mandrake policy would be far better:
 - what is main, what is contrib, and what is update ?
 - what does get updated ?
 etc...

Good grief.. everyone wants policy policy policy... =)

Main is what is in the main tree.  You know, what comes in the download
edition.  The stuff that is labelled not contribs.  The meat of the
distro.  The equivilant of Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS

Contribs is contribs.  It's labelled as such.

updates?  Should be pretty obvious.  Updates are stuff in main that need
fixing for whatever reason.

Main gets updated.  contribs doesn't.

I don't see what is so difficult about this.  This is how it has *always*
been.  It hasn't changed.  No need for a policy regarding it.  This is just
how it's done.

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Re: [Cooker] When rsync'ing I seem to be getting these files over and over

[Nora Etukudo]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 04:49:10AM -0400, Brook Humphrey wrote:

 I get these same files also. Over and over and over. For about 5 or 6
 days now.

May be, these file are particularly important ;-)

Liebe Grüße, Nora.
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[Cooker] [Bug 4858] [kdeartwork] XScreensaver hacks are missing from the KDE screensaver list

[[waschk]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4858





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-26-09 13:01 ---
xscreensaver shouldn't be installed by default in a KDE-only environment, but
the kde screensaver should be available by default.

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If you open the KDE Control Center and go to the module for configuring
screensaver and have XScreensaver installed hacks from it are missing from the
list of available screensavers. All of the hacks are available in GNOME and in
XScreensaver configuration utility. Also if I install KDE 3.1.3 from Texstar it
displays all the XScreensaver hacks, It appears that only Mandrake KDE doesn't
show them all.

[Cooker] [Bug 5662] [kdebase] suspend to disk either restart the X server or restart the system

[[jerome.bouat]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5662





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-26-09 13:54 ---
I expect for the suspend functionnality to appear for years. I would be
frustrated in some way if there would be always no suspend support in this
Mandrake Linux Release !

I already appreciated the CPU acpi management.

I wish you some courage for this _very_ expected functionnality.

Thanks.

Jérôme

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I saw the bug #4902 on this subject.

I installed Linux Mandrake 9.2 rc2. I found several bugs with the suspend to
disk KDE functionnality.

First bug
-
1. Under KDE, I selected the menu entry K-Suspend To Disk.
2. I got a window which asked me Do you really want to suspend to disk?. I
choosed OK.
3. The screen became black. The hard disk worked a little. I heard the same
noise as when the computer is restarting. Then I saw the mdkkdm login prompt.
4. I logged again in and I retried a second time (steps 1, 2) but my screen
stayed black. When mouving the mouse, I saw the password prompt (as when locking
the screen). I typed my user password and I logged again in KDE. I retrieved the
applications I was previously working on.

This bug looks like:
- a X restart while performing the copy of the memory to the disk.
- a reboot runlevel instead of the halt one.

Second bug
--
Wrong english message:
Do you really want to suspend to disk?
instead of:
Do you really want to suspend to disk ?

Third bug
-
I used a french install.
Some messages were not translated in french.

[Cooker] [MyODBC] src.rpm does not compiling

[Antonio Augusto Todo Bom Neto]

The package found in contrib dirs named MyODBC-2.50.39-1mdk.src.rpm
doesn´t compiles on Mdk9.1 standard instalation. See the error below:

checking for SQLSMALLINT... yes
checking for SQLUSMALLINT... yes
checking for SQLPOINTER... yes
checking for SQLHWND... yes
checking for SQLRETURN... yes
checking for SQLCHAR... yes
updating cache ./config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating myconf.h
+ make
cd .  aclocal
cd .  automake --foreign Makefile
Makefile.am: required file `./depcomp' not found
make: ** [Makefile.in] Erro 1
erro: Código de saída inválido do /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.42184 (%build)


Erros de criação do RPM:
Código de saída inválido do /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.42184 (%build)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# 
-


This is the last step to my experience with OpenOffice as client to
MySQL.
I just installed unixODBC sucessfully.


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Re: [Cooker] When rsync'ing I seem to be getting these files over and over

[Nora Etukudo]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:27:18AM +0100, John Allen wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Cooker] When rsync'ing I seem to be getting these files over and over

Yes, same for me!

 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-DocBook-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-Frontend-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-doc-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakfirsttime-0.92-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakwizard-2.5-1mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-de-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-es-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-fr-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-es-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-fr-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-it-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-ru-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_theme-0.1.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm
 Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mkcd-3.6.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm

But there was possibly only a change in time and / or permissions. Only
few bytes were transferred.

Liebe Grüße, Nora.
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