Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
--- Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No offense, but > there already is a > distribution (several) like this, why do we want to > create another one? They are not free (as in freedom) Ok, as I've said in the original mail, it's a community decision and if any of my ideas is accepted, I'll be happy. It seems that at least some will be. > I don't want it to > be like Windows where I > have to spend an hour or four on configuration and > software/driver > installation after the OS install is done. Funny, I spend the same amount of time tweaking Linux systems... Perhaps autoinstall can solve both our problems? > BTW, I like your interface, I think the layout is > quite nice, but I don't > think qt is going to be an option since all the mdk > tools are built on gtk. Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk like Qt Designer? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
I just hope that others don't find this little discussion of ours boring. if you do, please yell :) --- illogic-al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's a typical windows user. mdklinux is not > > > windows and users installing > > > linux know that (at least most of them do). > > > > It's the argument of "never change anything, make > > people learn our ways instead". > Not never change anything, never change anything > that doesn't need to be > changed. It's the argument of "if it ain't broke, > don't fix it" I just don't think that applies to interfaces. I.e. where I work it's a rule to change the webpage design every ~18 months. It doesn't matter that the old one was perfectly fine. "Change is good", says marketing people. > No. and i'm serious here. Ok, you have a right to an opinion. > > So > > basically, why don't we just scrap the group > selection > > screen and just install the whole 3 CDs? > ok that's sarcasm, i'm guessing It is... English is not my native lang :( > > This goes to prove that the present way is > > meaningless. Not to you because you're used to > either > > install everything or go directly to detailed > package > > selection. You're not a newbie. > but i used to be a newbie, and newbillogic-al loved > those menus because it > meant he didn't have to spend time sifting through > packages that he had no > clue what they did. And imagine if the packages were presented in a familiar way? In such a way that you could have easily had a clue? (eh this is about as far as my knowledge of english goes ;) > > No. I'll use all of these, but not all office > packages > > (just one), not all games (just a few), not all > net > > apps (just one browser, one e-mail client)... > > blahblah. You get my point. > but did you know which one you wanted to use when > you started w/ linux. I > didn't so two choices were great. I tried koffice > and it had a nice > interface, but office compatibility sucked. So then > i went to oo.o but it was > slow as hell and ugly but it had great office > compatibility. eventually i > chose function over form. but if the two weren't > installed i would think "oh, > there's only one word processor and it doesn't work > with word. this sucks > i'll have to boot into windows to use word now." > I had konq and mozilla, etc. having more than one > choice allowed me to know > what i wanted. once i got comfortable and > reinstalled then i knew what i > wanted and could pick and choose as i please. Agreed! So why don't we present them to users as what they are? Why dont we offer two checkboxes that say OpenOffice.org and KOffice, rather then just "Office tools" and then, upon clicking on details, hundreds of packages with cryptic names which are rather unusable by themselves? > if you select gnome package then eog comes w/ it. as > for the others there > isn't one thing in that list that i would typically > use. And that's probably > why they're not shown. the typical user goes > looking for chromium the game > not the setup utility, and etc You're right about eog, but I still disagree. > That's just personal preference. i don't think > fonts should be installed by fontdrake. the rpm > installation works just fine, galaxy should not be > installed by a theme manager, but maybe a theme > group could be created w/ gnome, flux and kde > themes. as for ami and chinput, why should they be > installed by keyboarddrake, is there even such a > thing? the same goes w/ fonts. These are all rpms, > rpmdrakes so purpose in life is to install those > things and it should remain it and only it's > purpose. Which reiterates my point. Linux is notorious for showing the system inside details in your face. Would you fly an airplane that has wires hanging all over the place, engines wide open, no compartment between pilots room and the rest etc? Well you might find it cool if you were an airplane mechanic. Most people are afraid of computers just as they are afraid of flying. That's why they need to feel perfectly safe and using a well rounded product. So Mandrake was the first that successfully hidden some details while maintaining functionality. Why not push it further? "Package" means nothing to a person that doesn't want to learn how their computer works, but "program" is fine. Note that I'm not requesting that RpmDrake should be killed. It should remain as an admins' tool. Also you still have urpmi and plain old rpm if you like. > Making a separate, keyboard and theme app only > introduces more bug reports unduly. They already exist. Keyboarddrake is used for selecting international keyboard layouts, you probably don't use it if you're from US or UK. Theme manager is a part of Mandrake first time wizard. > No but even those popups at install time when I > initially install linux gives a bad impression and > i don't want to deal with them that soon. there > are enough pop-ups in the install system (liek the > ones for dependencies). And le
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Vedran Ljubovic wrote: --- Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW, I like your interface, I think the layout is quite nice, but I don't think qt is going to be an option since all the mdk tools are built on gtk. Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk like Qt Designer? Not AFAIK, but perl-Qt is finally in contribs now, with a nice new pqt-designer. But that (Qt) is probably not on the cards - it would require a lot of rework. Jaco
[Cooker] setting most recently used menu
Somehow I lost the most recent programs used in the menu - kde 31 from cooker. I then tried to restore this, but I could not find it in the configuration of the desktop, which is the kde control center. Trying mcc, I could not execute mcc as a normal user, although it told me to just ignore getting root privilegies - it repetedly asked me to do that. (furthermore "keeping root passwd" does not work either, the root setting is still just ignored). I then went on to edit the system menu via menudrake, as root. But I could not find a place to add the most recently used programs to the menu. oI found out that I could enter menudrak for my normal user by right-clicking the kde start button, but still I could not find anything to add to my menu for the most recently programs. Then under right-click kde-start -> panel menu -> configure panel -> menues I finally found it, but it seems illogical to do it here. I noticed that the default was 0 entrances, I think it used to be 5. I have the problem in both my systems, and I am sure that I had a functioning "recent ..." menu in mdk 9.2 beta 2. So it looks like somewhere between 9.2ß2 and current cooker the default for the "recent" menu changed from 5 to 0. Also I then noticed in the kde control center that there was a looknfeel section with a panel editing posibility, but that did not include editing this item. I find it strange that the kde control module is not available from the kde control center. Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] Misleading Gentoo vs. Mandrake 9.1 performance
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, texstar wrote: > I thought you could blacklist libraries and binaries based on using the -b > prefix in your /etc/prelink.conf file: > yes probably, but as all kde/qt apps load libGL it would be nice to have that one prelinked as well. d.
[Cooker] New ATi drivers 3.2.8 solve KT400 incompatibility
ATi has just released new ATi drivers. 3.2.5 drivers have been packaged for 9.2 in the commercial rpms section, but 3.2.8 offer a lot of enhancements, and especially compatibility with kernel 2.6 and VIA KT400. Will they be packaged for 9.2 and put in the commercial downloads ? thanks Eric
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 23:53 schrieb Thierry Vignaud: > Pierre Jarillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ > > > > > > Cool. Something to play with in future :) . As said before, I > > > can't really afford to work on/with cooker, this way might be a > > > lot better solution for me to contribute to Mandrake > > > > Good conception. It looks faster than bugzilla, but it is empty. > > Bugzilla is too slow : to display a bug such as > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5066 has a weight of > > 438084 bytes. This is mainly due to the great number of in > > the markup. > > > > With a 56k modem, at least100 seconds are necessary to load this > > page, and 15s with an ADSL 512k. This is too much. > > vote for #5809 then :-) > and spam warly about it :-) Done. Hope bugzilla becomes usable sometimes in future. - page size - DrakConf vs. drakconf => both get checked with the vote for this bug link=> results in 11() votes for this bug , same for bugzilla vs. BugZilla - after back and uncheck one of the entries i get an exception , another step back and click on the button finally saves the vote. This all results in 5 steps or the like for each bug (including that he asks me everytime for login). So i have 5 minutes to work on each bug. (including 2minutes for load the page, hopefully only once otherwise i would need maybe 10-15 minutes per bug) maybe use mod_gzip for the page containig all the packages ? lzs_comp saves me a lot of time if i can use it (once i have 9.2 installed) Steffen
Re: [Cooker] Misleading Gentoo vs. Mandrake 9.1 performance
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: I have been sent a package by someone that uses (AFAICT) two approaches, running at install time, and running via cron. I will upload to contrib (unless there is vehement opposition ...) this evening (I can't get to klama from the university at present). It actually only runs from the cron. The spec is MDK'ified RH spec, so that is basically taking their approach. This would be interesting to have a look at it but the only reason why I haven't uploaded any prelink package yet is because (i) this is indeed something to be run better through cron (daily for new installs, weekly to reprelink) The way the RH spec (and the prelim spec I sent to Buchan) is that this is configurable. At present it runs once daily, performing a full prelink every 14 days. (This is configurable for your system, you can make it do a full run every day.) (ii) prelink'ing all fail because libqt depends on libGL which requires PIC to be prelink. There is a way around that but this requires things to supported in our kernel yet. I saw that on my test install. - Jaco
[Cooker] [Bug 6056] [urpmi] urpmi.update and local mirror for updates (mdk 9.1)
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6056 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 09:09 --- With perl-URPM-0.94-6_91mdk and urpmi-4.4-38_91mdk URPMI works if environment http_proxy is set, but no urpmi proxy is set. Except I have problems if the name of update source is 'update_source' (as set by default). The problem is as follows: urpmi.addmedia update_source ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz added medium update_source examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "update_source"... ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hdlist.cz found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as ../base/hdlist.cz ...retrieving done examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz] unable to parse hdlist file of "update_source" examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium "update_source" unable to update medium "update_source" As you can see from the last two lines, there are some problems. But if the name of update source is other than 'update_source' (eg. 'updates'), then everything works fine. I wonder if that new packages will also be an official update? And one suggestion: To benefit from both internet and intranet it would be nice to have proxy setting (because of internet) and additional NO PROXY settings (because of intranet) to have both internet urpm sources and also urpm sources from internal network to work together. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: "urpmi.update --update" takes a lot of time to work (cca. 5-10 minutes) if URMP has no proxy settings (file /etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg is empty), but there is environment 'http_proxy' variable set (file /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh has proxy definition). That kind of configuration is needed because we have firewall, but Mdk updates mirror location is on the local network (local mirror ftp server for Mandrake updates). I think that the problem is in calling 'culr' command, if there is no proxy settings in file '/etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg'. Urmpi.update calls curl as follows: /usr/bin/curl 0-s -I ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hd I think that there is invalid parameter '0-s', which maybe? it should be '-0 -s', but I can not see the whole command line with parameters of the running process to see the whole picture. In this situation probably curl uses parameter '0-s' as an URL, which must be found, but '0-s' URL doesn't exist. There is no problem to make 'urpmi.update', if URPMI update source resides on the internet (e.g. ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/...). In this situation URPM http proxy must be set because of the firewall. Maybe there is a bug in vendor perl module 'urpm.pm'?
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : > A request here: the screenshots should be in the local language, if > possible. To newbies, it is important that the interfaces are in their > native language. And this is furthermore one of Mandrakes strengths, > Mandrake is more translated into native languages than MS windows. why not. But this need to be done by users/contributor/clubers/... and so you may have apps_screenshot-fr and apps_screenshot ( en ) and so on. The right is installed depending on your language. > Nah, I think installing programs based on the menu is much more > user friendly. I note that right-clicking in the menu is currently not > used, and thus free for perusal for new functionality. No please. because : 1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for the user 2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right click and then install ? see point 1 --- Les hommes se contentent de tuer le temps en attendant que le temps les tue. Simone De Beauvoir
Re: [Cooker] setting most recently used menu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > Somehow I lost the most recent programs used in the menu - kde 31 from > cooker. > > I then tried to restore this, but I could not find it in the > configuration of the desktop, which is the kde control center. > > Trying mcc, I could not execute mcc as a normal user, although it told > me to just ignore getting root privilegies - it repetedly asked me to do > that. At present, Mandrake Control Center is for root. Some drakxtools can be run as non-root, but more of them should be in the menus (but how to seperate them yet make them easily accessible?). > > (furthermore "keeping root passwd" does not work either, the root > setting is still just ignored). I think there is a bug for that one somewhere ... > I then went on to edit the system menu via menudrake, as root. > But I could not find a place to add the most recently used programs to > the menu. Yes, menudrake isn't the tool to use to change options on the KDE desktop, only to edit the menu entries themselves ... > oI found out that I could enter menudrak for my normal user by > right-clicking the kde start button, but still I could not find anything > to add to my menu for the most recently programs. > > Then under right-click kde-start -> panel menu -> configure panel > -> menues I finally found it, but it seems illogical to do it here. > I noticed that the default was 0 entrances, I think it used to be 5. > I have the problem in both my systems, and I am sure that I had a > functioning "recent ..." menu in mdk 9.2 beta 2. So it looks like > somewhere between 9.2ß2 and current cooker the default for the "recent" > menu changed from 5 to 0. Probably an "interface team" request. IIRC it changed about the same time the "Super User mode" menu entries disappeared, probably for the same reason. /me considers making a "kde-superuser-menus" package to put them back ... since I actually filed bugs to get some of them to work better than on 9.1 ... > Also I then noticed in the kde control center that there was a looknfeel > section with a panel editing posibility, but that did not include > editing this item. I find it strange that the kde control module is not > available from the kde control center. It is there, KDE Control Center->LookNFeel->Panels->Menus (tab) Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hTc3rJK6UGDSBKcRAqbMAJ42aN8aXtnvc0FVDnZyyRxP2cwTvgCcC4ni BK3wjfTwSc9G6wVBtcdAEUM= =O0qv -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
> Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : > > > A request here: the screenshots should be in the local language, if > > possible. To newbies, it is important that the interfaces are in their > > native language. And this is furthermore one of Mandrakes strengths, > > Mandrake is more translated into native languages than MS windows. > > why not. But this need to be done by users/contributor/clubers/... > and so you may have apps_screenshot-fr and apps_screenshot ( en ) and so > on. The right is installed depending on your language. > > > Nah, I think installing programs based on the menu is much more > > user friendly. I note that right-clicking in the menu is currently not > > used, and thus free for perusal for new functionality. > > No please. because : > 1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install > automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for > the user > 2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he > clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right > click and then install ? see point 1 3°/ (hi hi) it could be in a sub menu "install more software", which uses the menu structure of the main menu, has nice icons, and a good description svetljo -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
[Cooker] kde styles...
Hi, I figure I have to be doing something wrong, but I was looking to change the KDE style last night and the only styles I see are Liquid and the default QT styles. I installed all the kdemoreartwork packages and the .so files are in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins but KDE is not noticing. I do get some messages when running kcmshell style from the command prompt about some of the files being linked against incompatible QT version (3.1.2) I have libqt3-3.1.2-14mdk installed, which I think is the latest. thanks, scott
[Cooker] [Bug 6109] [OpenOffice.org] New: OpenOffice can't start when connected to internet through a firewall
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6109 Product: OpenOffice.org Component: program Summary: OpenOffice can't start when connected to internet through a firewall Product: OpenOffice.org Version: 1.1-0.rc4.1mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenOffice can't start when I'm connected to Internet through the firewall. When I disconnect from Internet, I could then lounch OpenOffice. The firewall still remains active. Then is only happend when I connect to Internet. If I stop the firewall an I do a connection with Internet then OpenOffice can start. The same problem arrive under the 9.1 version. To connect to Internet I have the wanadoo pack with the alcatel speedtouch modem. That means tha my connection is a pppoa. No messages error are given. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.2 update policy (was: gaim 0.69 and 0.70 are out )
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > Ok, I must admit, I missed the first time wizzard on 9.2 (and was not a > > clubmember yet when I installed 9.1), for X crashes badly with my dual > > screen setup. (A known bug in the Matrox driver) After I finished > > hacking, the first time wizzard has long forgotten that it ever existed > > (and me too). > > You can easily access it after installation. > Start->Configuration->Other->Discover Custom Services (yes, that is a bad > place to put it, file a bug if you want). If you have better place, i wait for your proposal ;p [...] > Must I post screenshots?? > > If you missed it, just run 'drakfw' from the command line, and this is the > same thing you see on first login (if you haven't run it before). The binary name is _drakclub_ (specific part for the club account + urpmi sources managements). _drakfw_ is the whole wizard which is not suited to be started from command line. > The first page is default window manager, the 2nd page is email > client settings, the 3rd is the user survey, and the 4th is the Club > registration page, which does list the benefits a bit better, and > has the following options: -I have a product Key and I want to > register -I am already a member -No thanks. Yes this is drakfw which is a concatenation of smaller wizards which can be reused through menus or from command line (drakmail and drakclub respectively to setup mail accounts and club accounts/club urpmi sources)
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.2 update policy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daouda LO wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [...] > > >>>Ok, I must admit, I missed the first time wizzard on 9.2 (and was not a >>>clubmember yet when I installed 9.1), for X crashes badly with my dual >>>screen setup. (A known bug in the Matrox driver) After I finished >>>hacking, the first time wizzard has long forgotten that it ever existed >>>(and me too). >> >>You can easily access it after installation. >>Start->Configuration->Other->Discover Custom Services (yes, that is a bad >>place to put it, file a bug if you want). > > > If you have better place, i wait for your proposal ;p > Configuration->Packaging->Access Commercial packages or Configuration->Packaging->Mandrake Club packages (or something like that?) Now that we look at it (and regarding the rpmdrake thread), maybe "Packaging" is a bad name for this section? Maybe it should be "Software managemnet" or something (similar to the section in Mandrake Control Center). Speaking of which, maybe drakclub needs an entry in MCC also (in the sofware management section)? Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hUwJrJK6UGDSBKcRAjDQAJ9LwRPANvSZpuCXLDAFhyX3F+rLFgCcC5zp rUNx4UnZb1iliDq9gHqokaM= =ZUOH -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Encrypted partitions : why /var cannot be encrypted?
pplf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > During installation (using 9.1), when you create the partitions it is > possible to choose the option "encrypted" for some partitions like /home > or /tmp, but it is not possible to choose /var (an error says something > like : "/var cannot be located on an encrypted partition"). > > Why /var cannot be on an encrypted partition ? I see no reason > preventing to do that... well, the encrypted partitions must not be be important for booting. The boot will timeout if no password is given, and then... You can say /home *is* important for booting, so maybe it's not a good reason.
[Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Robert L martin posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:30:01 -0400: > what i would like to see is a way to right click on a loose rpm and see > whats inside (isn't there someway to do this with the rpm cli??) In X, kPackage can do this. kPackage is now a separate install as kdeadmin-kpackage, I believe. In console mode, mc of course does this (well, sort of, not exactly right click, but..) and all sorts of other stuff, using a curses interface. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] Encrypted partitions : why /var cannot be encrypted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pixel wrote: > pplf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>During installation (using 9.1), when you create the partitions it is >>possible to choose the option "encrypted" for some partitions like /home >>or /tmp, but it is not possible to choose /var (an error says something >>like : "/var cannot be located on an encrypted partition"). >> >>Why /var cannot be on an encrypted partition ? I see no reason >>preventing to do that... > > > well, the encrypted partitions must not be be important for booting. > The boot will timeout if no password is given, and then... And if /var isn't mounted, most server applications won't start, since they cannot write log files or access the data they need, the initscripts can't touch the files in /var/lock/subsys. It would be a very bad idea on a server, if the server is booted remotely, or by a UPS after power returns, nothing would work, and it would probably be very difficult to do anything remotely (unless via another machine and a serial cable). Maybe this is feasible if absolutely no deamons are installed (not even cron, syslog). And if this is the case, why would you want to encrypt /var? > You can say /home *is* important for booting, so maybe it's not a good > reason. /home isn't needed for booting. Only for a user to log in to X. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hVCErJK6UGDSBKcRAqYUAKDDRPf8ezr/lIdeSzhWxCHnGdvcxwCdHtk3 wx6jC6hA6ToLA6+fKhr4jII= =ZXiR -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > There would take very much diskspace, especially screenshots! And > > what about the time needed to do all the screenshots, list > > plugins.. > > Well obviously screenshots should be made while packaging. Apart > from distributing the workload, this has another benefit of > requiring packagers to test their packages. And also, screenshot > would be present only for "programs" (e.g. packages that are listed, > which usually are rather large anyway). Noone said that screenshots > need to be up-to-date! I think most users would be satisfied with > something a few versions back. Finally, those screenshot can be low > res, as suggested by Olivier. So I could give up on the "Click here > to enlarge" part :) then screenshots can be 8-bit PNGs constrained > to 200x150 pixels. That shouldn't be larger than 20-30 kB. what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different themes, with different fonts, ...
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
> Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk > like Qt Designer? yes, try glade2 :) urpmi glade2 and then use glade-2 -- Olivier Blin
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Le jeu 09/10/2003 à 12:15, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would > come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different > themes, with different fonts, ... this is not a problem. What you want to see is what the app look like. Now concerning colors/fonts, this is subsidiary. Of course you can always set polices ( take screenshot off the apps on default desktop install and configuration and take only app window screenshot ) I remember that when I want to test an app under windows I was first trying to see a screenshot and the GUI could make me do my choice. That's why on most windows site you have screenshots ( cf telecharger.com or clubic.com ). When I hear about a new apps on linux, my reflexe is going to the site and look at the screenshot and depending on the screenshot ( and of courses of the features ) I can decide if the app is interesting for a desktop usage. --- La science des occasions et des temps est la principale partie des affaires. -- Bossuet
[Cooker] [Bug 6110] [ncftp] New: Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6110 Product: ncftp Component: program Summary: Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit Product: ncftp Version: 3.1.5-3mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When pressing an accuentuated character, ncftp exit with code 0. Tested on 2 cooker machines. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>>There would take very much diskspace, especially screenshots! And >>>what about the time needed to do all the screenshots, list >>>plugins.. >> >>Well obviously screenshots should be made while packaging. Apart >>from distributing the workload, this has another benefit of >>requiring packagers to test their packages. And also, screenshot >>would be present only for "programs" (e.g. packages that are listed, >>which usually are rather large anyway). Noone said that screenshots >>need to be up-to-date! I think most users would be satisfied with >>something a few versions back. Finally, those screenshot can be low >>res, as suggested by Olivier. So I could give up on the "Click here >>to enlarge" part :) then screenshots can be 8-bit PNGs constrained >>to 200x150 pixels. That shouldn't be larger than 20-30 kB. > > > what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would > come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different > themes, with different fonts, ... > Make the policy that all application screenshots should: - -be of only the application (no desktop) - -not have window decorations - -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable I tried one just to see what it would look like: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hVYUrJK6UGDSBKcRAl3yAJwNjVezuTBfPHzB15kk+K3pbn9LPQCfUgcs VDNRuJmJsZMQQi+1segYcno= =8PzN -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > Le jeu 09/10/2003 à 12:15, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > > >>what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would >>come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different >>themes, with different fonts, ... > > > this is not a problem. What you want to see is what the app look like. > Now concerning colors/fonts, this is subsidiary. > Of course you can always set polices ( take screenshot off the apps on > default desktop install and configuration and take only app window > screenshot ) > > I remember that when I want to test an app under windows I was first > trying to see a screenshot and the GUI could make me do my choice. > That's why on most windows site you have screenshots ( cf > telecharger.com or clubic.com ). > When I hear about a new apps on linux, my reflexe is going to the site > and look at the screenshot and depending on the screenshot ( and of > courses of the features ) I can decide if the app is interesting for a > desktop usage. /me does 'urpmq -i ' ... Now, if urpmq could display a screenshot ;-) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hVZprJK6UGDSBKcRAi37AKCoGX7ZpOMluBwQw79o8R4cdfylogCgxi9P 8de50qH3sbgH/0jV/Qfw6LE= =yAoL -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BTW, I like your interface, I think the layout is quite nice, but > > I don't think qt is going to be an option since all the mdk tools > > are built on gtk. > > Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk > like Qt Designer? glade2 and glade-perl (plus some manul changes due to new perl-Gtk2)
[Cooker] [Bug 6056] [urpmi] urpmi.update and local mirror for updates (mdk 9.1)
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6056 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 11:56 --- Adding proxy per media will be done for next distributions, but I wonder if it works or not, your report is not clear, it does'nt work if given on command line or in proxy environment ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: "urpmi.update --update" takes a lot of time to work (cca. 5-10 minutes) if URMP has no proxy settings (file /etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg is empty), but there is environment 'http_proxy' variable set (file /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh has proxy definition). That kind of configuration is needed because we have firewall, but Mdk updates mirror location is on the local network (local mirror ftp server for Mandrake updates). I think that the problem is in calling 'culr' command, if there is no proxy settings in file '/etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg'. Urmpi.update calls curl as follows: /usr/bin/curl 0-s -I ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hd I think that there is invalid parameter '0-s', which maybe? it should be '-0 -s', but I can not see the whole command line with parameters of the running process to see the whole picture. In this situation probably curl uses parameter '0-s' as an URL, which must be found, but '0-s' URL doesn't exist. There is no problem to make 'urpmi.update', if URPMI update source resides on the internet (e.g. ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/...). In this situation URPM http proxy must be set because of the firewall. Maybe there is a bug in vendor perl module 'urpm.pm'?
[Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Svetoslav Slavtchev posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:58:46 +0200: >> Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : >> >> No please. because : >> 1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install >> automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for >> the user >> 2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he >> clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right >> click and then install ? see point 1 > > 3°/ (hi hi) > it could be in a sub menu "install more software", > which uses the menu structure of the main menu, > has nice icons, and a good description I like this idea. Have one entry on the menu that leads to another copy of the menu, as suggested. Note that menu right-clicking would be a function of the environment used. KDE, the Mdk default, may well (probably will, as the current menu is comparable to the Win95 menu at this point, and folks used to W98+ functionality with dynamic right-clickable reorganizeable menus would find it useful) include right click functionality of their own at some point. I don't believe patching Mdk's KDE to include install, therefore, is a very good idea. However, having as one entry a nested copy of the main menu layout, with all possible entries on it, for (un)installation, would be manageable using the current interface. All it would require would be some more text format .mnu files under /usr/lib/menu, and perhaps loading a few more icons, tho not many as many of them are used multiple times as is. Item entries on this new menu would call up a tool that would see if it was installed already or not. If so, it would offer the user the option of uninstalling it. If not, it would offer the user the option of installing it. Alternatively, packages could be modified to change this menu entry upon installation, and change it back upon uninstall. In this way, the entry could display say an x if uninstalled, or a plus if installed, making it immediately obvious what was installed from the installer menu, without having to take a trip back out to the main menu to look again, if in doubt. The core Mdk installation would include a mandrake-installer-menu package, with the installer/uninstaller app, and possibly the additional menu layout (which would otherwise be packaged and installed with the standard menu package). A separate package, say mandrake-installer-menu-screenshots, could be made optional. I haven't actually run a full distrib install since 8.1 (as I urpmi upgrade instead), but if a fairly standard normal vs. custom/minimal install option is used, normal would include the screenshots package by default, but custom/minimal would not. As for space, yes, the screenshots package WOULD take a non-trivial amount of additional space, but if done right, I believe it would be well worth the cost in terms of trading out another package to include it. I'd suggest putting screenshots on disk 2 (or even 3), but the installer menu on disk one, if possible, or in place of rpmdrake or whatever, whichever disk that's on. (Rpmdrake and anything else it replaced could then be put on disk 3, or later (left off the disks, as many apps, on the mirrors and in packaged sets, if the d/l edition remains @ 3 disks), rather than removed entirely, if so desired.) As well, low rez or highly compressed jpgs could be used, helping to control space use. Again, yes, this WOULD mean a trade-off, but I expect newbies would more than appreciate the additional ease of use, making it well worth it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
[Cooker] [Bug 6110] [ncftp] Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6110 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 13:49 --- With http://fasmz.org/tmp/ncftp-3.1.6-1mdk.i586.rpm the problem does not occur, but I didn't rebuilding the current package. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: When pressing an accuentuated character, ncftp exit with code 0. Tested on 2 cooker machines.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /me does 'urpmq -i ' ... > > Now, if urpmq could display a screenshot ;-) Such screenshot should be available in the package header at least, but it could be a bit too large, anyway an icon is maybe available to visualize instead of screenshot, that's not the best but you will see a picture furthermore problably nice but small :-) François.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Le Jeudi 9 Octobre 2003 14:50, Duncan a écrit : > Svetoslav Slavtchev posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > A separate package, say mandrake-installer-menu-screenshots, could be made > optional. IMHO, the best is a separate, optional and localized package, including the description, the snapshot, the localized URL Anything which is not absolutely necessary but useful. -- Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/ Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org/
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.2 update policy
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Daouda LO wrote: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > >>>Ok, I must admit, I missed the first time wizzard on 9.2 (and was not a > >>>clubmember yet when I installed 9.1), for X crashes badly with my dual > >>>screen setup. (A known bug in the Matrox driver) After I finished > >>>hacking, the first time wizzard has long forgotten that it ever existed > >>>(and me too). > >> > >>You can easily access it after installation. > >>Start->Configuration->Other->Discover Custom Services (yes, that is a bad > >>place to put it, file a bug if you want). > > > > > > If you have better place, i wait for your proposal ;p > > > > Configuration->Packaging->Access Commercial packages > or > Configuration->Packaging->Mandrake Club packages > (or something like that?) Drakclub is aimed at first to create a one-month-free-trial-account, adding urpmi sources is one feature amongst others. I personnaly don't think that it belongs to Packaging :( Maybe it should be put on the desktop as before. Ok, i finished discussing with David and it's highly probable that we put it in 'Mandrake Galaxy Welcome Screen'. For the menu entry, we have to find a better location. > Now that we look at it (and regarding the rpmdrake thread), maybe > "Packaging" is a bad name for this section? Maybe it should be "Software > managemnet" or something (similar to the section in Mandrake Control > Center). > > Speaking of which, maybe drakclub needs an entry in MCC also (in the > sofware management section)? Yes, but not in the software management section.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:35, Buchan Milne wrote: > Make the policy that all application screenshots should: > - -be of only the application (no desktop) > - -not have window decorations > - -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png I think the lack of window decorations might be a little confusing to the kind of users who'd benefit most from screenshots. Maybe require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window decorations too? I probably shouldn't argue for this because I don't have a dedicated system to make RPM's and damned if I'm going to use the 1998-looking MandrakeGalaxy just so I can make screenshots (I'm a Keramik guy all the way, sorry) but if it's going to be made into a policy, might as well do it in such a way to benefit people the most... I also think maintaining them separately in a database online somewhere seems like a better idea, but that's only because I thought it up. Rob
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob wrote: > On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:35, Buchan Milne wrote: > >>Make the policy that all application screenshots should: >>- -be of only the application (no desktop) >>- -not have window decorations >>- -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable >>http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png > > > I think the lack of window decorations might be a little > confusing to the kind of users who'd benefit most from > screenshots. Maybe require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window > decorations too? But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that has MandrakeGalaxy decorations ... Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the mainstream screenshot tools has an option to not use the decorations) to include them. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hXOvrJK6UGDSBKcRAhmPAJ4oXx2DKHUt8hm+C6Q6traqGkh+/QCeMZlL T4s9j02rq9z1fMFHbP2tsI4= =ht// -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
[Cooker] [Bug 6110] [ncftp] Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6110 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 14:20 --- from 3.1.6 changelog: " + Re-fixed a problem where high ASCII characters at the NcFTP prompt could cause it to exit." will be fixed once cooker is unfreezed (that is once the amd64 port is completed) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: When pressing an accuentuated character, ncftp exit with code 0. Tested on 2 cooker machines.
[Cooker] [Bug 6111] [openobex-apps] New: Openobex library is not compiled with bluetooth support
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6111 Product: openobex-apps Component: openobex-apps Summary: Openobex library is not compiled with bluetooth support Product: openobex-apps Version: 1.0.0-1mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: openobex-apps AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We cannot use obex to push things to bluetooth devices because bluetooth support was not added at compile time. I'm submiting this tied to the openobex-apps package because libopenobex is not in the list of packages. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6112] [initscripts] New: service network restart should not disable non ON_BOOT=yes interfaces
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6112 Product: initscripts Component: initscripts Summary: service network restart should not disable non ON_BOOT=yes interfaces Product: initscripts Version: 7.06-32mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: initscripts AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: = "service network restart" shut down net interfaces that do not have ON_BOOT=yes in / etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/icfg- but does not restart them due to the ON_BOOT filter: if LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C egrep -q -L "^ONBOOT=['\"]?[Nn][Oo]['\"]?" ifcfg-$i; then # this loads the module, to preserve ordering is_available $i continue fi suggestion: = make start() and stop() out of case/esac code and make restart state call "start();stop();;" then: - either add a parameter to start() that tell it we're not at boot and really want all interfaces to come up - or get the list of active interfaces before stoping them and pass it again to start() -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Buchan Milne posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:41:52 +0200: > Rob wrote: >> On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:35, Buchan Milne wrote: >> >>>Make the policy that all application screenshots should: >>>- -be of only the application (no desktop) >>>- -not have window decorations >>>- -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable >>>http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png >> >> >> I think the lack of window decorations might be a little >> confusing to the kind of users who'd benefit most from >> screenshots. Maybe require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window >> decorations too? > > But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that has > MandrakeGalaxy decorations ... > > Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the mainstream > screenshot tools has an option to not use the decorations) to include them. IMO, application window only, but submitter's choice of window decorations are fine. Screen shots at the various Linux sites use various decorations, and it doesn't seem to cause any problems. The same goes for color scheme. Any scheme should be allowed. Linux isn't Windows, where there's only one shipped window manager, and even Windows has color schemes. Therefore, it shouldn't be a problem. Anyone confused by it, well, this is Linux, not Windows. One of the benefits of Linux is the amount of customization one can do. In fact, before I moved from MSWormOS myself, that was one of the things that impressed me with Linux -- the huge amount of customization visible in the various screen shots I laid eyes on. In fact, I'm guessing what could actually happen is that users may see decorations they like and club, etc. may need to dedicate a new forum to questions about how to get the effect seen in screenshot X. One interesting possibility would be to collect this information and make it available at an appropriate club or whatever URL, where one could take a look at the screenshots online as well, even if included in the distrib. Thus, we'd have for a description of a shot, say, of kmail, if I took it: KMail, main screen, KDE environment, Custom color scheme, Keramik style, Redmond decorations. This online version would be quite handy for folks wishing to take a look at what was available with Mandrake before switching, as well, and could produce a substantial number of new users! I know I'd like to send a couple folks to visit, as they consider me a computer guru, but are a bit hesitant to take up Linux currently. That might get them interested, then I could let them borrow a "live" CD, then.. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
[Cooker] The idnkit, something for Mandrake 10 or aware ISP's?
Hi. I'm evaluating IDN (international domain names) right now and made a rediffed patch for latest bind. The patch makes host, nslookup and dig IDN aware and links against the libidnkit1 library from contribs. Here's packages: http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/idnkit-tools-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/libidnkit1-devel-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/libidnkit1-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-devel-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.i586.rpm http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-utils-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.i586.rpm http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.i586.rpm http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/SRPMS/bind-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.src.rpm http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/SRPMS/idnkit-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm Here's output from the bind stuff: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# nslookup www.räksmörgås.se Server: 192.168.100.1 Address:192.168.100.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: www.räksmörgås.se canonical name = ext.nic-se.se. Name: ext.nic-se.se Address: 212.247.3.81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# host www.räksmörgås.se www.räksmörgås.se is an alias for ext.nic-se.se. ext.nic-se.se has address 212.247.3.81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# dig www.räksmörgås.se ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3rc4 <<>> www.räksmörgås.se ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42689 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.räksmörgås.se. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.räksmörgås.se. 33468 IN CNAME ext.nic-se.se. ext.nic-se.se. 2615IN A 212.247.3.81 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: nic-se.se. 3359IN NS dns5.telia.com. nic-se.se. 3359IN NS orebro.dns.swip.net. nic-se.se. 3359IN NS ns.nic-se.se. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns.nic-se.se. 3359IN A 212.247.3.78 dns5.telia.com. 83136 IN A 194.22.190.13 orebro.dns.swip.net.4889IN A 192.71.180.45 ;; Query time: 2 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.100.1#53(192.168.100.1) ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 9 16:56:53 2003 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# nslookup www.gällivare.se 194.117.184.29 Server: 194.117.184.29 Address:194.117.184.29#53 Name: www.gällivare.se Address: 194.117.184.29 Quite funny! Here's output of idnconv from the idnkit: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# echo "www.räksmörgås.se" | idnconv www.xn--rksmrgs-5wao1o.se You should also be able to surf to "htp://www.räksmörgås.se" with Mozilla v1.4. I think this is interesting as it seems we now have some sort of a established standard for international domain names..., that wasn't true when I tried this last time (maybe 2 years ago?). Cheers. -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:58:46PM +0200, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: > > Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : > > > > > A request here: the screenshots should be in the local language, if > > > possible. To newbies, it is important that the interfaces are in their > > > native language. And this is furthermore one of Mandrakes strengths, > > > Mandrake is more translated into native languages than MS windows. > > > > why not. But this need to be done by users/contributor/clubers/... > > and so you may have apps_screenshot-fr and apps_screenshot ( en ) and so > > on. The right is installed depending on your language. Oh, well, however, I think localized menus could be generated also by mandrakesoft, maybe even automatically. It is the same screenshots that need to be generated, and im many cases it is just the front GUI that you would need to show. That is pretty easy to generate automatically for eg all items that are installable on the menu, I think. > > > Nah, I think installing programs based on the menu is much more > > > user friendly. I note that right-clicking in the menu is currently not > > > used, and thus free for perusal for new functionality. > > > > No please. because : > > 1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install > > automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for > > the user I did not want to clutter the menu. There should be just a few choices available in each menu, that is the recommended Mandrake choices for the specific menu. The additions could then be done by right-clicking the menu category, such as "office applications" - here a number of applications could then be shown, for installation. Furthermore to help in diminishing clutterization of the menus, one could restrict the menu to some shown items that have been used, and then a "more..." item to list more installed programs. (This idea is directly stolen from some MS Windows menu.) > > 2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he > > clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right > > click and then install ? see point 1 yes, I agree that this would not be good, but this was not what I intended. > 3°/ (hi hi) > it could be in a sub menu "install more software", > which uses the menu structure of the main menu, > has nice icons, and a good description That is another way to do it. Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think the lack of window decorations might be a little confusing > > to the kind of users who'd benefit most from screenshots. Maybe > > require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window decorations too? > > But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that > has MandrakeGalaxy decorations ... which of course would more consistent with the fact most end users use kde or gnome with the default theme (anti-troll warning: cooker people are by no way real end users as those one can found in real shops :-)). > Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the > mainstream screenshot tools has an option to not use the > decorations) to include them. gimp do has it. xwd too (xwd -nobdrs vs xwd) i guess others have it too.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 05:50:42AM -0700, Duncan wrote: > Svetoslav Slavtchev posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > below, on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:58:46 +0200: > > > 3°/ (hi hi) > > it could be in a sub menu "install more software", > > which uses the menu structure of the main menu, > > has nice icons, and a good description > > I like this idea. Have one entry on the menu that leads to another copy > of the menu, as suggested. > > Note that menu right-clicking would be a function of the environment used. > KDE, the Mdk default, may well (probably will, as the current menu is > comparable to the Win95 menu at this point, and folks used to W98+ > functionality with dynamic right-clickable reorganizeable menus would > find it useful) include right click functionality of their own at some > point. I don't believe patching Mdk's KDE to include install, therefore, > is a very good idea. Well, mdk could coperate with kde on this menu functionality enhancement. And kde could make an API or wrapper so that urpmi or apt-get or what-have-you could be used for installation. As I wrote, a number of things could be available by right-clicking in the menu. One thing I miss, is deletion from the menu, or uninstallation. I think there are too many items in some of the menus, and would like to get rid of some of them. This could also actually be done by a "del" button hit, and additon could also be done by an "insert" maybe at the menu category name. However, this should not become too obscure. Best regards Keld
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>>I think the lack of window decorations might be a little confusing >>>to the kind of users who'd benefit most from screenshots. Maybe >>>require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window decorations too? >> >>But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that >>has MandrakeGalaxy decorations ... > > which of course would more consistent with the fact most end users use > kde or gnome with the default theme (anti-troll warning: cooker people > are by no way real end users as those one can found in real shops > :-)). But people taking screenshots might be non-real end users (ie cookers ;-)). >>Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the >>mainstream screenshot tools has an option to not use the >>decorations) to include them. > gimp do has it. I thought it did, but checked in 1.3.x, which does not (I looked now in 1.2.x and it does, but who wants GTK1 stuff when GTK2 stuff is available ;-). Maybe I should file a bug on gimp1.3 ;-). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hY3HrJK6UGDSBKcRAlGAAKCRu7SgPIjOhA0ur4kgUDwSj05d7gCfSHHc 81vMwDFHYQ+2BjGy/gmTpmI= =FCeP -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
[Cooker] [Bug 6111] [openobex-apps] Openobex library is not compiled with bluetooth support
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:00 --- Which additional BuildRequires should be added so that this will work? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: We cannot use obex to push things to bluetooth devices because bluetooth support was not added at compile time. I'm submiting this tied to the openobex-apps package because libopenobex is not in the list of packages.
Re: [Cooker] Gxine has no sound when viewing Quicktime clips
Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyone has the same problem? I created 3 ISOs from cooker couple days > ago. I could watch other sites (CNN, CNET news) no problem but when > wacthing any Quicktime clip (pixar.com, quicktime.com) I got no sound. > > Soundcard is SBLive! using emu10k1 module. bug in quicktime lib?
Re: [Cooker] setting most recently used menu
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:23:51PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > > > Also I then noticed in the kde control center that there was a looknfeel > > section with a panel editing posibility, but that did not include > > editing this item. I find it strange that the kde control module is not > > available from the kde control center. > > It is there, KDE Control Center->LookNFeel->Panels->Menus (tab) I cant find it there, I looked all over again. Current cooker. There is no menus tab under panels (or the one that is there, is only for setting the background for the menus.) best regards keld
[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] New: OpenOffice.org mime types missing
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 Product: apache-conf Component: packaging Summary: OpenOffice.org mime types missing Product: apache-conf Version: 2.0.47-8mdk Platform: Sun OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from /etc/httpd/conf/apache-mime.types Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file). -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] Ideas for MDK 10
How much desire would there be for multi head configuration support in Harddrake? I recently connected an external monitor to my laptop and now I have dual displays. It took me a couple of days of digging but I got the "how to" for Xinerama and configured it successfully. I think it would be a nice feature. Plus, I'd like to figure out how to have applications open on the main display by default... Cory Meisch Thursday Oct 09 2003 09:59:52 AM PDT You will step on the night soil of many countries.
Re: [Cooker] Gxine has no sound when viewing Quicktime clips
I have same problem... I thought it was just lack of QT support in Linux or the format my camera encodes QT. But yeah, I have same problem. Cory On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 08:03, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anyone has the same problem? I created 3 ISOs from cooker couple days > > ago. I could watch other sites (CNN, CNET news) no problem but when > > wacthing any Quicktime clip (pixar.com, quicktime.com) I got no sound. > > > > Soundcard is SBLive! using emu10k1 module. > > bug in quicktime lib? Cory Meisch Thursday Oct 09 2003 10:04:22 AM PDT "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense."
[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:11 --- Created an attachment (id=916) --> (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=916&action=view) OOo-most-common-mimetypes.patch -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from /etc/httpd/conf/apache-mime.types Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).
[Cooker] [Bug 6114] [mailman] New: conflict in gid with postfix
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6114 Product: mailman Component: program Summary: conflict in gid with postfix Product: mailman Version: 2.1.2-9mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The version of postfix currently included with mdk9.1 uses group "mail" to run pipe commands. However mailman 2.1.2-9 is configured to only run as "nogroup". Apart from ensuring that the latest postfix's default group is nogroup (which I haven't checked), maybe add a dependency to indicate incompatibility with older postfix. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:24 --- I don't see the spreadsheet types (sxc) in the patch. A full list of OOo/SO MIME types is on http://framework.openoffice.org/documentation/mimetypes/mimetypes.html -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from /etc/httpd/conf/apache-mime.types Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).
[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:30 --- I don't use that spreadsheet and was lazy :-) Feel free to attach a better patch. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from /etc/httpd/conf/apache-mime.types Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).
[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:36 --- Hmmm... I would like to see a more intelligent way to generate this file. Once I found all the MS extenssions with descriptive text and all at the MS site. Maybe someone should make a script that constructed the mime types file from online resources? It was a dread for me updating the file manually last time... Any takers? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from /etc/httpd/conf/apache-mime.types Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).
[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:50 --- There are already mime resources in mandrake-mime, try to import that instead. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from /etc/httpd/conf/apache-mime.types Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).
[Cooker] [Bug 6112] [initscripts] service network restart should not disable non ON_BOOT=yes interfaces
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6112 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:51 --- The second solution would be better, since it would also solve the problem where PCMCIA devices (which are now correctly not started at boot, so they are started by PCMCIA instead, avoiding the error message before PCMCIA is started) are not restarted by 'service network restart'. When restarting the network, one expects all devices that were running before to be running after ... -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: description: = "service network restart" shut down net interfaces that do not have ON_BOOT=yes in / etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/icfg- but does not restart them due to the ON_BOOT filter: if LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C egrep -q -L "^ONBOOT=['\"]?[Nn][Oo]['\"]?" ifcfg-$i; then # this loads the module, to preserve ordering is_available $i continue fi suggestion: = make start() and stop() out of case/esac code and make restart state call "start();stop();;" then: - either add a parameter to start() that tell it we're not at boot and really want all interfaces to come up - or get the list of active interfaces before stoping them and pass it again to start()
[Cooker] [Bug 5980] [initscripts] generate bad init order with laptop
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5980 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Component|DrakConnect |program Ever Confirmed||1 Product|drakxtools |initscripts Version|9.2-16mdk |7.06-32mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 16:58 --- really an initscripts bug -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: just a little improvement for laptop owners with pcmcia network device : when drackconnect configure the network interface, it generate the network init startup script before the pcmcia configuration device one. It was the same in previous Mandrake versions. It causes the internet connection to be inactive at startup. Personnaly i modified the startup scripts order by hand in '/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/' but i think it could be a small job for a good improvement (mostly for newbies).
Re: [Cooker] Ideas for MDK 10
Cory Meisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How much desire would there be for multi head configuration support > in Harddrake? none. in XFdrake, there would be. though it should already do it.
Re: [Cooker] Gxine has no sound when viewing Quicktime clips
Cory Meisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anyone has the same problem? I created 3 ISOs from cooker couple > > > days ago. I could watch other sites (CNN, CNET news) no problem > > > but when wacthing any Quicktime clip (pixar.com, quicktime.com) > > > I got no sound. > > > > > > Soundcard is SBLive! using emu10k1 module. > > > > bug in quicktime lib? > > I have same problem... I thought it was just lack of QT support in > Linux or the format my camera encodes QT. But yeah, I have same > problem. fill bugzilla regarding gxine then
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the > > > mainstream screenshot tools has an option to not use the > > > decorations) to include them. > > > gimp do has it. > > I thought it did, but checked in 1.3.x, which does not (I looked now > in 1.2.x and it does, but who wants GTK1 stuff when GTK2 stuff is > available ;-). > > Maybe I should file a bug on gimp1.3 ;-). afaic, they switch from using xwd (!!!) to direct x11 access a few weeks ago :-(
Re: [Cooker] Ideas for MDK 10
If it can, I don't see a way to... On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 10:10, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Cory Meisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > How much desire would there be for multi head configuration support > > in Harddrake? > > none. > > in XFdrake, there would be. > though it should already do it. Cory Meisch Thursday Oct 09 2003 12:27:44 PM PDT QOTD: "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial."
[Cooker] [Bug 2529] [drakxtools] Xircom pcmcia adaptor doesn't insmod -- but ONLY in DrakConnect
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 19:28 --- Just a line showing "0" (meaning no error returned?). Trying with an intentionally mispelled module (like "blah") results in an error message and the code 255. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: When using the DrakConnect Wizard to set up my Xircom/Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (PCMCIA network adaptor), I get an error in the wizard window: "insmod'ing module xircom_tulip_cb failed at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 61". This occurs after clicking to continue on the page "Choose the connection you want to configure". The error happens whether or not I've selected "auto detection" at the start. stdout -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] jkeller]# drakconnect /lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o.gz: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21pre4- 6mdk/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o.gz failed modprobe: Can't locate module syslog -- Feb 28 12:04:22 localhost drakconnect[3450]: ### Program is starting ### Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost drakconnect[3450]: setting probeall usb-interface to usb-uhci Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost drakconnect[3450]: running: /sbin/modprobe xircom_tulip_cb Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost kernel: xircom_tulip_cb.c derived from tulip.c:v0.91 4/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost kernel: unofficial 2.4.x kernel port, version 0.91+LK1.1, October 11, 2001 Feb 28 12:04:52 localhost drakconnect[3450]: running: /sbin/modprobe -n xircom_tulip_cb
[Cooker] missing all.img in cooker
Hi! I would like if there was an all.img with all the boot stuff available in cooker. There was one at some time in the beta stage, but now it is gone. Could I use such an image from a small hd partition to boot from? What is the best method to boot of disk? Save it in my home partition which normally survives between installs? Save it on my windows partition, which also survives, and is bootable? Is there some setup that would be easy for a newbie? Download to ypur windows partition and then boot from there? (may be only a win98 thing, XP may not allow that) best regards Keld
Re: [Cooker] missing all.img in cooker
> Hi! > > I would like if there was an all.img with all the boot stuff available > in cooker. There was one at some time in the beta stage, but now it is > gone. I think you are looking for all.rdz? ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz It needs a kernel too: ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz > > Could I use such an image from a small hd partition to boot from? Yes, and I think this is covered in the CookerHowto on the Wiki. > What is the best method to boot of disk? > Save it in my home partition which normally survives between installs? If you have a local cooker mirror, you can boot it straight from there. I have a seperate /boot on my desktop, so I put things there. On my laptop, I stuck it and my lilo.conf in /home (along with a script to reinstall lilo, since I did this a few times). > Save it on my windows partition, which also survives, and is bootable? > Is there some setup that would be easy for a newbie? > Download to ypur windows partition and then boot from there? > (may be only a win98 thing, XP may not allow that) Yes, this should be possible with loadlin (but this seems not to be in /dosutils any more), but not for 2k/XP, and probably not NT either. I don't think they can boot linux directly :-(. Regards, Buchan * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
[Cooker] [Bug 6115] [gnokii] New: gnokii has a library problem at startup
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6115 Product: gnokii Component: program Summary: gnokii has a library problem at startup Product: gnokii Version: 0.5.4-1mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnokiid gnokiid: relocation error: /usr/lib/libgnokii.so.1: undefined symbol: str2ba the same problem occurs for gnokii, xgnokii ldd /usr/bin/gnokii gives : libgnokii.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgnokii.so.1 (0x40021000) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x4006d000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4007d000) libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x40161000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40291000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) googling gave no result. http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=str2ba&submit=Search%21&max=10&result=normal&sort=score either I'll try to give more details tomorrow... -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6116] [galaxy-kde] New: Scrollbars are invisible in Mandrakegalaxy theme
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6116 Product: galaxy-kde Component: galaxy-kde Summary: Scrollbars are invisible in Mandrakegalaxy theme Product: galaxy-kde Version: 0.9.4-14mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: galaxy-kde AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, in the galaxy theme, could you please make the scrollbars more visible? I have trouble locating them from the foreground: it is grey on grey! :-) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] anthill-0.2.4-2mdk
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Oden Eriksson wrote: > onsdagen den 8 oktober 2003 02.57 skrev Stew Benedict: > > > > Keep in mind that FHS is strongly pushing /srv, such as /srv/www now for > > apache and other services. (hosted files, not configs) > > As stupid as the /package stuff by DJB. What's the point? > I'm not about to try and defend it, I'm just telling you what's happening. If you have strong feelings about it then you should be participating in the FHS discussions and make your feelings known. From what I'm seeing it's going to happen. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] XFree86 crashes Mozilla
Ever since updating to the most recent XFree86 (uploaded to cooker in past day or so), Mozilla consistantly crashes when trying to open some pages. gdb gives this output: /(gdb) cont Continuing. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x40868155 in XftLockFace () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 / -Michael
[Cooker] [Bug 6117] [gxine] New: No sound when playing quicktime movies
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6117 Product: gxine Component: program Summary: No sound when playing quicktime movies Product: gxine Version: 0.3.3-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When playing quicktime movies there is either no sound or the sound makes a popping noise. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] New: How about fast user switching?
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118 Product: mdkkdm Component: mdkkdm Summary: How about fast user switching? Product: mdkkdm Version: 9.2-9mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: mdkkdm AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut down xmule). Currently I have to lock the session CTRL+ALT+f2 startx -- :1 But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound does not work, and the tv card doesn't either. Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. cheers! -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6119] [autofs] New: [amd64] parsing autofs names goes wrong
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6119
Product: autofs
Component: program
Summary: [amd64] parsing autofs names goes wrong
Product: autofs
Version: 4.0.0-0.19mdk
Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
after putting a symlink (/usr/lib64/autofs --> /usr/lib/autofs), otherwise
autofs won't start, see bug 5351:
When I do "ls /build/plf" the following shows up in the log files, as you can
see, it is looking up "/build/":
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[930]: attempting to mount entry /build/
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct 9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))
For "ls /build/cooker" it only looks up "/build/er" :
Oct 9 21:20:00 turaco automount[930]: attempting to mount entry /build/er
Oct 9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=er))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "er" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct 9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct 9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))
Oct 9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=er))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "er" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct 9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct 9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))
For "ls /build/cookcooker" it only looks up "/build/cooker":
Oct 9 21:40:00 turaco automount[930]: attempting to mount entry /build/cooker
Oct 9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=cooker))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "cooker"
found, trying cn="/"
Oct 9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct 9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=cooker))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): examining first entry
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): entry 0 is
"anorien:/data/build/&"
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun): expanded entry:
anorien:/data/build/cooker
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun): gathered options:
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun):
dequote("anorien:/data/build/cooker") -> anorien:/data/build/cooker
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun): core of entry: options=,
loc=anorien:/data/build/cooker
Oct 9 21:40:07 turaco kernel: automount[1162]: segfault at 007f54907738 rip
002a964aac37 rsp 007f54907740 error 6
I guess the first 4 characters in to be mounted directories name get lost.
This only takes place on amd64 (alpha, i586 and sparc are fine)
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[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] How about fast user switching?
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 23:00 --- gdm can do this. Use gdm as display manager, then you can use gdmflexiserver to create a new session. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Hello, It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut down xmule). Currently I have to lock the session CTRL+ALT+f2 startx -- :1 But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound does not work, and the tv card doesn't either. Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. cheers!
[Cooker] [Bug 6120] [drakxtools] New: firewall blocks samba connection
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6120 Product: drakxtools Component: drakfirewall Summary: firewall blocks samba connection Product: drakxtools Version: 9.1-31mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: minor Priority: P2 Component: drakfirewall AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I added 137/udp 138/udp 139/tcp 445/tcp (and also 135 and 1024 - ports find in the shorewall docs about samba), but if i run the firewall smb doesn' t work! if i shutdown the firewall, all go well. Now : i believe that there' s an unknown port that smb wants open. I try also to set the /etc/shorewall/rule file as the swall docs say, but nothing different... thanks for your help and your work sorry for my bad english! -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] How about fast user switching?
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-10 03:17 --- Buchan had posted a solution to this on the Cooker ML a while back. It's a hidden feature in kwin that is trivial to enable. It only requires that the X server have a few reserved vts to work. Check the archives for the solution. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Hello, It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut down xmule). Currently I have to lock the session CTRL+ALT+f2 startx -- :1 But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound does not work, and the tv card doesn't either. Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. cheers!
[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] How about fast user switching?
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-10 03:18 --- Buchan had posted a solution to this on the Cooker ML a while back. It's a hidden feature in kwin that is trivial to enable. It only requires that the X server have a few reserved vts to work. Check the archives for the solution. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Hello, It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut down xmule). Currently I have to lock the session CTRL+ALT+f2 startx -- :1 But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound does not work, and the tv card doesn't either. Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. cheers!
[Cooker] [Bug 6114] [mailman] conflict in gid with postfix
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6114 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-10 03:30 --- On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, [ramon.casha] wrote: There is an update package in the works. If you want to test my build look here: http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/mailman-2.1.2-9.1mdk.i586.rpm -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: The version of postfix currently included with mdk9.1 uses group "mail" to run pipe commands. However mailman 2.1.2-9 is configured to only run as "nogroup". Apart from ensuring that the latest postfix's default group is nogroup (which I haven't checked), maybe add a dependency to indicate incompatibility with older postfix.
[Cooker] [Bug 6121] [traceroute] New: traceroute doesn't work
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6121 Product: traceroute Component: program Summary: traceroute doesn't work Product: traceroute Version: 1.4a12-4mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] just try it, all you'll see is asterisks -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6106] [perl-Mail-SpamAssassin] missing significant code
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6106 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-10 04:35 --- I found out what was wrong. This bug can be closed out -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: running: "spamassassin -d --lint" gives: "Can't locate object method "lint_rules" via package "Mail::Spamassassin" at /usr/bin/spamassassin" line 186." running: "sa-learn --spam --mbox gives: "Can't locate object method "init_learner" via package "Mail::Spamassassin" at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/SpamAssassin/CmdLearn.pm line 91"
