[Cooker] [Bug 6106] [perl-Mail-SpamAssassin] missing significant code

2003-10-09 Thread [jwd_45244]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6106


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution||INVALID




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-10 04:35 ---
I found out what was wrong.  This bug can be closed out

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running: 
 "spamassassin -d --lint"

gives:
 "Can't locate object method "lint_rules" via package "Mail::Spamassassin"
at /usr/bin/spamassassin" line 186."

running:
 "sa-learn --spam --mbox 

gives:
 "Can't locate object method "init_learner" via package "Mail::Spamassassin"
at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/SpamAssassin/CmdLearn.pm line 91"



[Cooker] XFree86 crashes Mozilla

2003-10-09 Thread Michael Altizer
Ever since updating to the most recent XFree86 (uploaded to cooker in 
past day or so), Mozilla consistantly crashes when trying to open some 
pages.
gdb gives this output:

/(gdb) cont
Continuing.
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x40868155 in XftLockFace () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2
/
-Michael



[Cooker] [Bug 6121] [traceroute] New: traceroute doesn't work

2003-10-09 Thread [jokerman64]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6121

   Product: traceroute
 Component: program
   Summary: traceroute doesn't work
   Product: traceroute
   Version: 1.4a12-4mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


just try it, all you'll see is asterisks

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[Cooker] [Bug 6114] [mailman] conflict in gid with postfix

2003-10-09 Thread [sbenedict]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6114


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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-10 03:30 ---

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, [ramon.casha] wrote:


There is an update package in the works.  If you want to test my build 
look here:

http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/mailman-2.1.2-9.1mdk.i586.rpm


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The version of postfix currently included with mdk9.1 uses group "mail" to 
run pipe commands. However mailman 2.1.2-9 is configured to only run 
as "nogroup". Apart from ensuring that the latest postfix's default group 
is nogroup (which I haven't checked), maybe add a dependency to 
indicate incompatibility with older postfix.



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] anthill-0.2.4-2mdk

2003-10-09 Thread Stew Benedict

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Oden Eriksson wrote:

> onsdagen den 8 oktober 2003 02.57 skrev Stew Benedict:
> >
> > Keep in mind that FHS is strongly pushing /srv, such as /srv/www now for
> > apache and other services. (hosted files, not configs)
> 
> As stupid as the /package stuff by DJB. What's the point?
> 

I'm not about to try and defend it, I'm just telling you what's happening.  
If you have strong feelings about it then you should be participating in 
the FHS discussions and make your feelings known.  From what I'm seeing 
it's going to happen.

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[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] How about fast user switching?

2003-10-09 Thread [greeneg]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118





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Buchan had posted a solution to this on the Cooker ML a while back. It's a 
hidden feature in kwin that is trivial to enable. It only requires that the X 
server have a few reserved vts to work. Check the archives for the solution. 

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Hello, 
 
It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down 
programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut 
down 
xmule).  
 
Currently I have to 
 
lock the session 
CTRL+ALT+f2 
startx -- :1 
 
But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound 
does not 
work, and the tv card doesn't either. 
 
Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. 
 
Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. 
cheers!



[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] How about fast user switching?

2003-10-09 Thread [greeneg]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-10 03:17 ---
Buchan had posted a solution to this on the Cooker ML a while back. It's a 
hidden feature in kwin that is trivial to enable. It only requires that the X 
server have a few reserved vts to work. Check the archives for the solution. 

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Hello, 
 
It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down 
programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut 
down 
xmule).  
 
Currently I have to 
 
lock the session 
CTRL+ALT+f2 
startx -- :1 
 
But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound 
does not 
work, and the tv card doesn't either. 
 
Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. 
 
Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. 
cheers!



[Cooker] [Bug 6120] [drakxtools] New: firewall blocks samba connection

2003-10-09 Thread [paolomind]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6120

   Product: drakxtools
 Component: drakfirewall
   Summary: firewall blocks samba connection
   Product: drakxtools
   Version: 9.1-31mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: minor
  Priority: P2
 Component: drakfirewall
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I added 137/udp 138/udp 139/tcp 445/tcp (and also 135 and 1024 - ports find in the 
shorewall docs about samba), but if i run the firewall smb doesn' t work! if i 
shutdown the 
firewall, all go well. Now : i believe that there' s an unknown port that smb  wants 
open. 
 
I try also to set the /etc/shorewall/rule file as the swall docs say, but nothing 
different... 
 
thanks for your help and your work 
 
sorry for my bad english!

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Re: [Cooker] missing all.img in cooker

2003-10-09 Thread bgmilne
> Hi!
>
> I would like if there was an all.img with all the boot stuff available
> in cooker. There was one at some time in the beta stage, but now it is
> gone.

I think you are looking for all.rdz?

ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz

It needs a kernel too:
ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz

>
> Could I use such an image from a small hd partition to boot from?

Yes, and I think this is covered in the CookerHowto on the Wiki.

> What is the best method to boot of disk?
> Save it in my home partition which normally survives between installs?

If you have a local cooker mirror, you can boot it straight from there. I
have a seperate /boot on my desktop, so I put things there. On my laptop,
I stuck it and my lilo.conf in /home (along with a script to reinstall
lilo, since I did this a few times).

> Save it on my windows partition, which also survives, and is bootable?
> Is there some setup that would be easy for a newbie?
> Download to ypur windows partition and then boot from there?
> (may be only a win98 thing, XP may not allow that)

Yes, this should be possible with loadlin (but this seems not to be in
/dosutils any more), but not for 2k/XP, and probably not NT either. I
don't think they can boot linux directly :-(.

Regards,
Buchan


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[Cooker] missing all.img in cooker

2003-10-09 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
Hi!

I would like if there was an all.img with all the boot stuff available
in cooker. There was one at some time in the beta stage, but now it is
gone.

Could I use such an image from a small hd partition to boot from?

What is the best method to boot of disk?
Save it in my home partition which normally survives between installs?
Save it on my windows partition, which also survives, and is bootable?
Is there some setup that would be easy for a newbie?
Download to ypur windows partition and then boot from there?
(may be only a win98 thing, XP may not allow that)

best regards
Keld



[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] How about fast user switching?

2003-10-09 Thread [oliv.blin]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118





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gdm can do this.
Use gdm as display manager, then you can use gdmflexiserver to create a new session.


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Hello, 
 
It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down 
programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut 
down 
xmule).  
 
Currently I have to 
 
lock the session 
CTRL+ALT+f2 
startx -- :1 
 
But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound 
does not 
work, and the tv card doesn't either. 
 
Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. 
 
Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. 
cheers!



[Cooker] [Bug 6119] [autofs] New: [amd64] parsing autofs names goes wrong

2003-10-09 Thread [stefan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6119

   Product: autofs
 Component: program
   Summary: [amd64] parsing autofs names goes wrong
   Product: autofs
   Version: 4.0.0-0.19mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


after putting a symlink (/usr/lib64/autofs --> /usr/lib/autofs), otherwise
autofs won't start, see bug 5351:

When I do "ls /build/plf" the following shows up in the log files, as you can
see, it is looking up "/build/":

Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[930]: attempting to mount entry /build/
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct  9 21:10:00 turaco automount[1144]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))

For "ls /build/cooker" it only looks up "/build/er" :

Oct  9 21:20:00 turaco automount[930]: attempting to mount entry /build/er
Oct  9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=er))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "er" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct  9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct  9 21:20:03 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))
Oct  9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=er))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "er" found,
trying cn="/"
Oct  9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct  9 21:20:06 turaco automount[1142]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=automount)(cn=/))

For "ls /build/cookcooker" it only looks up "/build/cooker":

Oct  9 21:40:00 turaco automount[930]: attempting to mount entry /build/cooker
Oct  9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=cooker))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): no entry for "cooker"
found, trying cn="/"
Oct  9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): getting first entry for cn="/"
Oct  9 21:40:03 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): query succeeded, no
matches for (&(objectclass=nisObject)(cn=/))
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): searching for
"(&(objectclass=automount)(cn=cooker))" under "ou=auto.build,dc=mandrake,dc=vpn"
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): examining first entry
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: lookup(ldap): entry 0 is
"anorien:/data/build/&"
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun): expanded entry:
anorien:/data/build/cooker
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun): gathered options:
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun):
dequote("anorien:/data/build/cooker") -> anorien:/data/build/cooker
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco automount[1162]: parse(sun): core of entry: options=,
loc=anorien:/data/build/cooker
Oct  9 21:40:07 turaco kernel: automount[1162]: segfault at 007f54907738 rip
002a964aac37 rsp 007f54907740 error 6

I guess the first 4 characters in to be mounted directories name get lost.

This only takes place on amd64 (alpha, i586 and sparc are fine)

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[Cooker] [Bug 6118] [mdkkdm] New: How about fast user switching?

2003-10-09 Thread [seguso.forever]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6118

   Product: mdkkdm
 Component: mdkkdm
   Summary: How about fast user switching?
   Product: mdkkdm
   Version: 9.2-9mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: mdkkdm
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello, 
 
It would be nice to have a user switch feature which does not force me to shut down 
programs. For example if my mother must check mail, I don't want to log off (and shut 
down 
xmule).  
 
Currently I have to 
 
lock the session 
CTRL+ALT+f2 
startx -- :1 
 
But this does not work fully: I have many resource locking problems, e.g. the sound 
does not 
work, and the tv card doesn't either. 
 
Also, it is not apparent enough. 99% of the users don't know it is possible. 
 
Windows XP does this since years, and I heard SUSE 8.2 does it too. 
cheers!

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[Cooker] [Bug 6117] [gxine] New: No sound when playing quicktime movies

2003-10-09 Thread [cory.meisch]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6117

   Product: gxine
 Component: program
   Summary: No sound when playing quicktime movies
   Product: gxine
   Version: 0.3.3-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


When playing quicktime movies there is either no sound or the sound makes a
popping noise.

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Re: [Cooker] Ideas for MDK 10

2003-10-09 Thread Cory Meisch
If it can, I don't see a way to...

On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 10:10, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Cory Meisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > How much desire would there be for multi head configuration support
> > in Harddrake?
> 
> none.
> 
> in XFdrake, there would be.
> though it should already do it.
 Cory 
Meisch Thursday Oct 09 2003 12:27:44 PM PDT 
 QOTD: 
"I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial."




[Cooker] [Bug 6116] [galaxy-kde] New: Scrollbars are invisible in Mandrakegalaxy theme

2003-10-09 Thread [seguso.forever]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6116

   Product: galaxy-kde
 Component: galaxy-kde
   Summary: Scrollbars are invisible in Mandrakegalaxy theme
   Product: galaxy-kde
   Version: 0.9.4-14mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: galaxy-kde
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello, 
 
in the galaxy theme, could you please make the scrollbars more visible? I have trouble 
locating them from the foreground: it is grey on grey! :-)

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the
> > > mainstream screenshot tools has an option to not use the
> > > decorations) to include them.
> 
> > gimp do has it.
> 
> I thought it did, but checked in 1.3.x, which does not (I looked now
> in 1.2.x and it does, but who wants GTK1 stuff when GTK2 stuff is
> available ;-).
> 
> Maybe I should file a bug on gimp1.3 ;-).

afaic, they switch from using xwd (!!!) to direct x11 access a few
weeks ago :-(




Re: [Cooker] Gxine has no sound when viewing Quicktime clips

2003-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Cory Meisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > Anyone has the same problem? I created 3 ISOs from cooker couple
> > > days ago. I could watch other sites (CNN, CNET news) no problem
> > > but when wacthing any Quicktime clip (pixar.com, quicktime.com)
> > > I got no sound.
> > > 
> > > Soundcard is SBLive! using emu10k1 module.
> > 
> > bug in quicktime lib?
>
> I have same problem... I thought it was just lack of QT support in
> Linux or the format my camera encodes QT. But yeah, I have same
> problem.
 
fill bugzilla regarding gxine then




Re: [Cooker] Ideas for MDK 10

2003-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Cory Meisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How much desire would there be for multi head configuration support
> in Harddrake?

none.

in XFdrake, there would be.
though it should already do it.




[Cooker] [Bug 6115] [gnokii] New: gnokii has a library problem at startup

2003-10-09 Thread [gureghia]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6115

   Product: gnokii
 Component: program
   Summary: gnokii has a library problem at startup
   Product: gnokii
   Version: 0.5.4-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


gnokiid
gnokiid: relocation error: /usr/lib/libgnokii.so.1: undefined symbol: str2ba

the same problem occurs for gnokii, xgnokii

ldd /usr/bin/gnokii gives :
libgnokii.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgnokii.so.1 (0x40021000)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x4006d000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4007d000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x40161000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40291000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

googling gave no result.
http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=str2ba&submit=Search%21&max=10&result=normal&sort=score
either

I'll try to give more details tomorrow...

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[Cooker] [Bug 2529] [drakxtools] Xircom pcmcia adaptor doesn't insmod -- but ONLY in DrakConnect

2003-10-09 Thread [jkeller]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2529





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Just a line showing "0" (meaning no error returned?). Trying with an 
intentionally mispelled module (like "blah") results in an error message and 
the code 255.

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When using the DrakConnect Wizard to set up my Xircom/Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 
(PCMCIA network adaptor), I get an error in the wizard window: "insmod'ing 
module xircom_tulip_cb failed at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 61".

This occurs after clicking to continue on the page "Choose the connection you 
want to configure". The error happens whether or not I've selected "auto 
detection" at the start.

stdout --
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jkeller]# drakconnect
/lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o.gz: 
init_module: No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
  You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
  modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-
6mdk/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o.gz failed
  modprobe: Can't locate module

syslog --
Feb 28 12:04:22 localhost drakconnect[3450]: ### Program is starting ###
Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost drakconnect[3450]: setting probeall usb-interface to 
usb-uhci
Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost drakconnect[3450]: running: /sbin/modprobe 
xircom_tulip_cb
Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost kernel: xircom_tulip_cb.c derived from tulip.c:v0.91 
4/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Feb 28 12:04:51 localhost kernel:  unofficial 2.4.x kernel port, version 
0.91+LK1.1, October 11, 2001
Feb 28 12:04:52 localhost drakconnect[3450]: running: /sbin/modprobe -n 
xircom_tulip_cb



Re: [Cooker] Gxine has no sound when viewing Quicktime clips

2003-10-09 Thread Cory Meisch
I have same problem... I thought it was just lack of QT support in Linux
or the format my camera encodes QT. But yeah, I have same problem.

Cory

On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 08:03, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Anyone has the same problem? I created 3 ISOs from cooker couple days
> > ago. I could watch other sites (CNN, CNET news) no problem but when
> > wacthing any Quicktime clip (pixar.com, quicktime.com) I got no sound.
> > 
> > Soundcard is SBLive! using emu10k1 module.
> 
> bug in quicktime lib?
 Cory 
Meisch Thursday Oct 09 2003 10:04:22 AM PDT 
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stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense."




[Cooker] Ideas for MDK 10

2003-10-09 Thread Cory Meisch
How much desire would there be for multi head configuration support in
Harddrake?

I recently connected an external monitor to my laptop and now I have
dual displays. It took me a couple of days of digging but I got the "how
to" for Xinerama and configured it successfully. I think it would be a
nice feature. Plus, I'd like to figure out how to have applications open
on the main display by default...

 Cory 
Meisch Thursday Oct 09 2003 09:59:52 AM PDT 
 You will 
step on the night soil of many countries.




Re: [Cooker] setting most recently used menu

2003-10-09 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:23:51PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
> 
> Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> 
> > Also I then noticed in the kde control center that there was a looknfeel
> > section with a panel editing posibility, but that did not include
> > editing this item. I find it strange that the kde control module is not
> > available from the kde control center.
> 
> It is there, KDE Control Center->LookNFeel->Panels->Menus (tab)

I cant find it there, I looked all over again. Current cooker.
There is no menus tab under panels (or the one that is there, is only
for setting the background for the menus.)

best regards
keld



Re: [Cooker] Gxine has no sound when viewing Quicktime clips

2003-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone has the same problem? I created 3 ISOs from cooker couple days
> ago. I could watch other sites (CNN, CNET news) no problem but when
> wacthing any Quicktime clip (pixar.com, quicktime.com) I got no sound.
> 
> Soundcard is SBLive! using emu10k1 module.

bug in quicktime lib?




Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>>I think the lack of window decorations might be a little confusing
>>>to the kind of users who'd benefit most from screenshots.  Maybe
>>>require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window decorations too?
>>
>>But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that
>>has MandrakeGalaxy decorations ...
>
> which of course would more consistent with the fact most end users use
> kde or gnome with the default theme (anti-troll warning: cooker people
> are by no way real end users as those one can found in real shops
> :-)).

But people taking screenshots might be non-real end users (ie cookers ;-)).

>>Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the
>>mainstream screenshot tools has an option to not use the
>>decorations) to include them.

> gimp do has it.

I thought it did, but checked in 1.3.x, which does not (I looked now in
1.2.x  and it does, but who wants GTK1 stuff when GTK2 stuff is
available ;-).

Maybe I should file a bug on gimp1.3 ;-).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 05:50:42AM -0700, Duncan wrote:
> Svetoslav Slavtchev posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
> below,  on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:58:46 +0200:
> 
> > 3°/ (hi hi)
> > it could be in a sub menu "install more software",
> > which uses the menu structure of the main menu,
> > has nice icons, and a good description
> 
> I like this idea.  Have one entry on the menu that leads to another copy
> of the menu, as suggested.
> 
> Note that menu right-clicking would be a function of the environment used.
> KDE, the Mdk default, may well (probably will, as the current menu is
> comparable to the Win95 menu at this point, and folks used to W98+
> functionality with dynamic right-clickable reorganizeable menus would
> find it useful) include right click functionality of their own at some
> point. I don't believe patching Mdk's KDE to include install, therefore,
> is a very good idea.  

Well, mdk could coperate with kde on this menu functionality
enhancement. And kde could make an API or wrapper so that urpmi or apt-get or
what-have-you could be used for installation.

As I wrote, a number of things could be available by right-clicking in
the menu. One thing I miss, is deletion from the menu, or
uninstallation. I think there are too many items in some of the menus,
and would like to get rid of some of them. This could also actually be
done by a "del" button hit, and additon could also be done by an
"insert" maybe at the menu category name. However, this should not
become too obscure.

Best regards
Keld



Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I think the lack of window decorations might be a little confusing
> > to the kind of users who'd benefit most from screenshots.  Maybe
> > require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window decorations too?
> 
> But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that
> has MandrakeGalaxy decorations ...

which of course would more consistent with the fact most end users use
kde or gnome with the default theme (anti-troll warning: cooker people
are by no way real end users as those one can found in real shops
:-)).
 
> Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the
> mainstream screenshot tools has an option to not use the
> decorations) to include them.

gimp do has it.
xwd too (xwd -nobdrs vs xwd)
i guess others have it too.




Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:58:46PM +0200, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :
> > 
> > > A request here: the screenshots should be in the local language, if
> > > possible. To newbies, it is important that the interfaces are in their
> > > native language. And this is furthermore one of Mandrakes strengths,
> > > Mandrake is more translated into native languages than MS windows.
> > 
> > why not. But this need to be done by users/contributor/clubers/...
> > and so you may have apps_screenshot-fr and apps_screenshot ( en ) and so
> > on. The right is installed depending on your language.

Oh, well, however, I think localized menus could be generated also
by mandrakesoft, maybe even automatically. It is the same screenshots
that need to be generated, and im many cases it is just the front GUI
that you would need to show. That is pretty easy to generate
automatically for eg all items that are installable on the menu, I think.

> > > Nah, I think installing programs based on the menu is much more
> > > user friendly. I note that right-clicking in the menu is currently not
> > > used, and thus free for perusal for new functionality.
> > 
> > No please. because :
> > 1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install
> > automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for
> > the user 

I did not want to clutter the menu. There should be just a few choices
available in each menu, that is the recommended Mandrake choices for
the specific menu.

The additions could then be done by right-clicking the menu category,
such as "office applications" - here a number of applications could then
be shown, for installation.

Furthermore to help in diminishing clutterization of the menus, one
could restrict the menu to some shown items that have been used,
and then a "more..." item to list more installed programs. (This idea is
directly stolen from some MS Windows menu.)

> > 2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he
> > clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right
> > click and then install ? see point 1

yes, I agree that this would not be good, but this was not what I
intended.

> 3°/ (hi hi)
> it could be in a sub menu "install more software",
> which uses the menu structure of the main menu,
> has nice icons, and a good description

That is another way to do it. 

Best regards
keld



[Cooker] The idnkit, something for Mandrake 10 or aware ISP's?

2003-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi.

I'm evaluating IDN (international domain names) right now and made a rediffed 
patch for latest bind. The patch makes host, nslookup and dig IDN aware and 
links against the libidnkit1 library from contribs.

Here's packages:
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/idnkit-tools-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/libidnkit1-devel-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/libidnkit1-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-devel-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-utils-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/SRPMS/bind-9.2.3-0.rc4.3mdk.src.rpm
http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/SRPMS/idnkit-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm

Here's output from the bind stuff:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# nslookup www.räksmörgås.se
Server: 192.168.100.1
Address:192.168.100.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
www.räksmörgås.se   canonical name = ext.nic-se.se.
Name:   ext.nic-se.se
Address: 212.247.3.81

[EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# host www.räksmörgås.se
www.räksmörgås.se is an alias for ext.nic-se.se.
ext.nic-se.se has address 212.247.3.81
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# dig www.räksmörgås.se

; <<>> DiG 9.2.3rc4 <<>> www.räksmörgås.se
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42689
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.räksmörgås.se. IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.räksmörgås.se.  33468   IN  CNAME   ext.nic-se.se.
ext.nic-se.se.  2615IN  A   212.247.3.81

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
nic-se.se.  3359IN  NS  dns5.telia.com.
nic-se.se.  3359IN  NS  orebro.dns.swip.net.
nic-se.se.  3359IN  NS  ns.nic-se.se.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns.nic-se.se.   3359IN  A   212.247.3.78
dns5.telia.com. 83136   IN  A   194.22.190.13
orebro.dns.swip.net.4889IN  A   192.71.180.45

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.100.1#53(192.168.100.1)
;; WHEN: Thu Oct  9 16:56:53 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 210


[EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# nslookup www.gällivare.se 194.117.184.29
Server: 194.117.184.29
Address:194.117.184.29#53

Name:   www.gällivare.se
Address: 194.117.184.29

Quite funny!

Here's output of idnconv from the idnkit:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# echo "www.räksmörgås.se" | idnconv
www.xn--rksmrgs-5wao1o.se

You should also be able to surf to "htp://www.räksmörgås.se" with Mozilla 
v1.4.

I think this is interesting as it seems we now have some sort of a established 
standard for international domain names..., that wasn't true when I tried 
this last time (maybe 2 years ago?).


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[Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Duncan
Buchan Milne posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below,  on
Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:41:52 +0200:

> Rob wrote:
>> On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:35, Buchan Milne wrote:
>>
>>>Make the policy that all application screenshots should:
>>>- -be of only the application (no desktop)
>>>- -not have window decorations
>>>- -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable
>>>http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png
>>
>>
>> I think the lack of window decorations might be a little
>> confusing to the kind of users who'd benefit most from
>> screenshots.  Maybe require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window
>> decorations too?
> 
> But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that has
> MandrakeGalaxy decorations ...
> 
> Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the mainstream
> screenshot tools has an option to not use the decorations) to include them.

IMO, application window only, but submitter's choice of window decorations
are fine.  Screen shots at the various Linux sites use various
decorations, and it doesn't seem to cause any problems.  The same goes for
color scheme.  Any scheme should be allowed.  Linux isn't Windows, where
there's only one shipped window manager, and even Windows has color
schemes.  Therefore, it shouldn't be a problem.  Anyone confused by it,
well, this is Linux, not Windows.  One of the benefits of Linux is the
amount of customization one can do.

In fact, before I moved from MSWormOS myself, that was one of the things
that impressed me with Linux -- the huge amount of customization visible
in the various screen shots I laid eyes on.  In fact, I'm guessing what
could actually happen is that users may see decorations they like and
club, etc. may need to dedicate a new forum to questions about how to get
the effect seen in screenshot X.

One interesting possibility would be to collect this information and make
it available at an appropriate club or whatever URL, where one could take
a look at the screenshots online as well, even if included in the distrib.  
Thus, we'd have for a description of a shot, say, of kmail, if I took it:

KMail, main screen, KDE environment, Custom color scheme, Keramik style,
Redmond decorations.

This online version would be quite handy for folks wishing to take a look
at what was available with Mandrake before switching, as well, and could
produce a substantial number of new users!  I know I'd like to send a
couple folks to visit, as they consider me a computer guru, but are a bit
hesitant to take up Linux currently.  That might get them interested, then
I could let them borrow a "live" CD, then..

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[Cooker] [Bug 5980] [initscripts] generate bad init order with laptop

2003-10-09 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5980


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when drackconnect configure the network interface, it generate the network init
startup script before the pcmcia configuration device one. It was the same in
previous Mandrake versions. It causes the internet connection to be inactive at
startup. 

Personnaly i modified the startup scripts order by hand in '/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/'
but i think it could be a small job for a good improvement (mostly for newbies).



[Cooker] [Bug 6112] [initscripts] service network restart should not disable non ON_BOOT=yes interfaces

2003-10-09 Thread [bgmilne]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6112





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 16:51 ---
The second solution would be better, since it would also solve the problem where
PCMCIA devices (which are now correctly not started at boot, so they are started
by PCMCIA instead, avoiding the error message before PCMCIA is started) are not
restarted by 'service network restart'.

When restarting the network, one expects all devices that were running before to
be running after ...

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"service network restart" shut down net interfaces that do not have ON_BOOT=yes in /
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ON_BOOT filter: 
 
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continue 
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= 
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"start();stop();;" 
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- either add a parameter to start() that tell it we're not at boot and really want all 
interfaces to come up 
 
- or get the list of active interfaces before stoping them and pass it again to start()



[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing

2003-10-09 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 16:50 ---
There are already mime resources in mandrake-mime, try to import that instead.


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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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Rob wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:35, Buchan Milne wrote:
>
>>Make the policy that all application screenshots should:
>>- -be of only the application (no desktop)
>>- -not have window decorations
>>- -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable
>>http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png
>
>
> I think the lack of window decorations might be a little
> confusing to the kind of users who'd benefit most from
> screenshots.  Maybe require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window
> decorations too?

But that requires the user to use one of the window managers that has
MandrakeGalaxy decorations ...

Of course, it would be a bit less effort (since none of the mainstream
screenshot tools has an option to not use the decorations) to include them.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Rob
On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:35, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Make the policy that all application screenshots should:
> - -be of only the application (no desktop)
> - -not have window decorations
> - -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable
> http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png

I think the lack of window decorations might be a little 
confusing to the kind of users who'd benefit most from 
screenshots.  Maybe require the use of the MandrakeGalaxy window 
decorations too?

I probably shouldn't argue for this because I don't have a 
dedicated system to make RPM's and damned if I'm going to use 
the 1998-looking MandrakeGalaxy just so I can make screenshots 
(I'm a Keramik guy all the way, sorry) but if it's going to be 
made into a policy, might as well do it in such a way to benefit 
people the most...

I also think maintaining them separately in a database online 
somewhere seems like a better idea, but that's only because I 
thought it up.

Rob




[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing

2003-10-09 Thread [oden.eriksson]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 16:36 ---
Hmmm... I would like to see a more intelligent way to generate this file. Once 
I found all the MS extenssions with descriptive text and all at the MS site.  
 
Maybe someone should make a script that constructed the mime types file from 
online resources? 
 
It was a dread for me updating the file manually last time... 
 
Any takers? 

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[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing

2003-10-09 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 16:30 ---
I don't use that spreadsheet and was lazy :-)

Feel free to attach a better patch.


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[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing

2003-10-09 Thread [fillide]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 16:24 ---
I don't see the spreadsheet types (sxc) in the patch.

A full list of OOo/SO MIME types is on
http://framework.openoffice.org/documentation/mimetypes/mimetypes.html

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The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from
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Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).



[Cooker] [Bug 6114] [mailman] New: conflict in gid with postfix

2003-10-09 Thread [ramon.casha]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6114

   Product: mailman
 Component: program
   Summary: conflict in gid with postfix
   Product: mailman
   Version: 2.1.2-9mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The version of postfix currently included with mdk9.1 uses group "mail" to 
run pipe commands. However mailman 2.1.2-9 is configured to only run 
as "nogroup". Apart from ensuring that the latest postfix's default group 
is nogroup (which I haven't checked), maybe add a dependency to 
indicate incompatibility with older postfix.

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[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] OpenOffice.org mime types missing

2003-10-09 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 16:11 ---
Created an attachment (id=916)
 --> (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=916&action=view)
OOo-most-common-mimetypes.patch


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Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).



[Cooker] [Bug 6113] [apache-conf] New: OpenOffice.org mime types missing

2003-10-09 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6113

   Product: apache-conf
 Component: packaging
   Summary: OpenOffice.org mime types missing
   Product: apache-conf
   Version: 2.0.47-8mdk
  Platform: Sun
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The most common mime types of OpenOffice.org are missing from
/etc/httpd/conf/apache-mime.types
Apache returns text/plain for an Impress presentation (why, it's a binary file).

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[Cooker] [Bug 6111] [openobex-apps] Openobex library is not compiled with bluetooth support

2003-10-09 Thread [s.vandereijk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6111


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 16:00 ---
Which additional BuildRequires should be added so that this will work?


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We cannot use obex to push things to bluetooth devices because bluetooth support
was not added at compile time.

I'm submiting this tied to the openobex-apps package because libopenobex is not
in the list of packages.



[Cooker] [Bug 6112] [initscripts] New: service network restart should not disable non ON_BOOT=yes interfaces

2003-10-09 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6112

   Product: initscripts
 Component: initscripts
   Summary: service network restart should not disable non
ON_BOOT=yes interfaces
   Product: initscripts
   Version: 7.06-32mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: initscripts
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description: 
= 
"service network restart" shut down net interfaces that do not have ON_BOOT=yes in /
etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/icfg- but does not restart them due to the 
ON_BOOT filter: 
 
if LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C egrep -q -L "^ONBOOT=['\"]?[Nn][Oo]['\"]?" ifcfg-$i; then 
# this loads the module, to preserve ordering 
is_available $i 
continue 
fi 
 
 
suggestion: 
= 
make start() and stop() out of case/esac code and make restart state call 
"start();stop();;" 
then: 
 
- either add a parameter to start() that tell it we're not at boot and really want all 
interfaces to come up 
 
- or get the list of active interfaces before stoping them and pass it again to start()

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.2 update policy

2003-10-09 Thread Daouda LO
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Daouda LO wrote:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >
> >>>Ok, I must admit, I missed the first time wizzard on 9.2 (and was not a
> >>>clubmember yet when I installed 9.1), for X crashes badly with my dual
> >>>screen  setup. (A known bug in the Matrox driver) After I finished
> >>>hacking, the first  time wizzard has long forgotten that it ever existed
> >>>(and me too).
> >>
> >>You can easily access it after installation.
> >>Start->Configuration->Other->Discover Custom Services (yes, that is a bad
> >>place to put it, file a bug if you want).
> >
> >
> > If you have better place, i wait for your proposal ;p
> >
> 
> Configuration->Packaging->Access Commercial packages
> or
> Configuration->Packaging->Mandrake Club packages
> (or something like that?)

Drakclub is aimed at first to create a one-month-free-trial-account,
adding urpmi sources is one feature amongst others. 
I personnaly don't think that it belongs to Packaging :(
Maybe it should be put on the desktop as before.
Ok, i finished discussing with David and it's highly probable that we put it
in 'Mandrake Galaxy Welcome Screen'. For the menu entry, we have to
find a better location. 

> Now that we look at it (and regarding the rpmdrake thread), maybe
> "Packaging" is a bad name for this section? Maybe it should be "Software
> managemnet" or something (similar to the section in Mandrake Control
> Center).
> 
> Speaking of which, maybe drakclub needs an entry in MCC also (in the
> sofware management section)?

Yes, but not in the software management section. 



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Jeudi 9 Octobre 2003 14:50, Duncan a écrit :
> Svetoslav Slavtchev posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted

> A separate package, say mandrake-installer-menu-screenshots, could be made
> optional. 

IMHO, the best is a separate, optional and localized package, including the 
description, the snapshot, the localized URL Anything which is not 
absolutely necessary but useful.

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread François Pons
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /me does 'urpmq -i ' ...
> 
> Now, if urpmq could display a screenshot ;-)

Such screenshot should be available in the package header at least,
but it could be a bit too large, anyway an icon is maybe available to visualize
instead of screenshot, that's not the best but you will see a picture
furthermore problably nice but small :-)

François.



[Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Duncan
Svetoslav Slavtchev posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below,  on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:58:46 +0200:

>> Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :
>> 
>> No please. because :
>> 1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install
>> automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for
>> the user 
>> 2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he
>> clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right
>> click and then install ? see point 1
> 
> 3°/ (hi hi)
> it could be in a sub menu "install more software",
> which uses the menu structure of the main menu,
> has nice icons, and a good description

I like this idea.  Have one entry on the menu that leads to another copy
of the menu, as suggested.

Note that menu right-clicking would be a function of the environment used.
KDE, the Mdk default, may well (probably will, as the current menu is
comparable to the Win95 menu at this point, and folks used to W98+
functionality with dynamic right-clickable reorganizeable menus would
find it useful) include right click functionality of their own at some
point. I don't believe patching Mdk's KDE to include install, therefore,
is a very good idea.  

However, having as one entry a nested copy of the main menu layout, with
all possible entries on it, for (un)installation, would be manageable
using the current interface.  All it would require would be some more text
format .mnu files under /usr/lib/menu, and perhaps loading a few more
icons, tho not many as many of them are used multiple times as is.  

Item entries on this new menu would call up a tool that would see if it
was installed already or not.  If so, it would offer the user the option
of uninstalling it.  If not, it would offer the user the option of
installing it.

Alternatively, packages could be modified to change this menu entry upon
installation, and change it back upon uninstall.  In this way, the entry
could display say an x if uninstalled, or a plus if installed, making it
immediately obvious what was installed from the installer menu, without
having to take a trip back out to the main menu to look again, if in doubt.

The core Mdk installation would include a mandrake-installer-menu package,
with the installer/uninstaller app, and possibly the additional menu
layout (which would otherwise be packaged and installed with the standard
menu package).

A separate package, say mandrake-installer-menu-screenshots, could be made
optional.  I haven't actually run a full distrib install since 8.1 (as I
urpmi upgrade instead), but if a fairly standard normal vs. custom/minimal
install option is used, normal would include the screenshots package by
default, but custom/minimal would not.

As for space, yes, the screenshots package WOULD take a non-trivial amount
of additional space, but if done right, I believe it would be well worth
the cost in terms of trading out another package to include it.  I'd
suggest putting screenshots on disk 2 (or even 3), but the installer
menu on disk one, if possible, or in place of rpmdrake or whatever,
whichever disk that's on.  (Rpmdrake and anything else it replaced could
then be put on disk 3, or later (left off the disks, as many apps, on the
mirrors and in packaged sets, if the d/l edition remains @ 3 disks),
rather than removed entirely, if so desired.)  As well, low rez or highly
compressed jpgs could be used, helping to control space use.  Again, yes,
this WOULD mean a trade-off, but I expect newbies would more than
appreciate the additional ease of use, making it well worth it.

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > BTW, I like your interface, I think the layout is quite nice, but
> > I don't think qt is going to be an option since all the mdk tools
> > are built on gtk.
> 
> Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk
> like Qt Designer?

glade2 and glade-perl (plus some manul changes due to new perl-Gtk2)




Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
> Le jeu 09/10/2003 à 12:15, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
>
>
>>what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would
>>come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different
>>themes, with different fonts, ...
>
>
> this is not a problem. What you want to see is what the app look like.
> Now concerning colors/fonts, this is subsidiary.
> Of course you can always set polices ( take screenshot off the apps on
> default desktop install and configuration and take only app window
> screenshot )
>
> I remember that when I want to test an app under windows I was first
> trying to see a screenshot and the GUI could make me do my choice.
> That's why on most windows site you have screenshots ( cf
> telecharger.com or clubic.com ).
> When I hear about a new apps on linux, my reflexe is going to the site
> and look at the screenshot and depending on the screenshot ( and of
> courses of the features ) I can decide if the app is interesting for a
> desktop usage.

/me does 'urpmq -i ' ...

Now, if urpmq could display a screenshot ;-)

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>>There would take very much diskspace, especially screenshots! And
>>>what about the time needed to do all the screenshots, list
>>>plugins..
>>
>>Well obviously screenshots should be made while packaging. Apart
>>from distributing the workload, this has another benefit of
>>requiring packagers to test their packages. And also, screenshot
>>would be present only for "programs" (e.g. packages that are listed,
>>which usually are rather large anyway). Noone said that screenshots
>>need to be up-to-date! I think most users would be satisfied with
>>something a few versions back. Finally, those screenshot can be low
>>res, as suggested by Olivier. So I could give up on the "Click here
>>to enlarge" part :) then screenshots can be 8-bit PNGs constrained
>>to 200x150 pixels. That shouldn't be larger than 20-30 kB.
>
>
> what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would
> come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different
> themes, with different fonts, ...
>

Make the policy that all application screenshots should:
- -be of only the application (no desktop)
- -not have window decorations
- -use MandrakeGalaxy widget theme/style if applicable

I tried one just to see what it would look like:

http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/imgseek2.png

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] [Bug 6111] [openobex-apps] New: Openobex library is not compiled with bluetooth support

2003-10-09 Thread [111mandrake]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6111

   Product: openobex-apps
 Component: openobex-apps
   Summary: Openobex library is not compiled with bluetooth support
   Product: openobex-apps
   Version: 1.0.0-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: openobex-apps
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


We cannot use obex to push things to bluetooth devices because bluetooth support
was not added at compile time.

I'm submiting this tied to the openobex-apps package because libopenobex is not
in the list of packages.

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 09/10/2003 à 12:15, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :

> what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would
> come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different
> themes, with different fonts, ...


this is not a problem. What you want to see is what the app look like.
Now concerning colors/fonts, this is subsidiary.
Of course you can always set polices ( take screenshot off the apps on
default desktop install and configuration and take only app window
screenshot )

I remember that when I want to test an app under windows I was first
trying to see a screenshot and the GUI could make me do my choice.
That's why on most windows site you have screenshots ( cf
telecharger.com or clubic.com ).
When I hear about a new apps on linux, my reflexe is going to the site
and look at the screenshot and depending on the screenshot ( and of
courses of the features ) I can decide if the app is interesting for a
desktop usage.

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[Cooker] [Bug 6110] [ncftp] Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit

2003-10-09 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6110


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from 3.1.6 changelog: 
"  + Re-fixed a problem where high ASCII characters at the NcFTP prompt 
could cause it to exit." 
 
will be fixed once cooker is unfreezed (that is once the amd64 port is completed) 

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Olivier Blin
> Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk
> like Qt Designer?

yes, try glade2 :)
urpmi glade2 and then use glade-2

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > There would take very much diskspace, especially screenshots! And
> > what about the time needed to do all the screenshots, list
> > plugins..
> 
> Well obviously screenshots should be made while packaging. Apart
> from distributing the workload, this has another benefit of
> requiring packagers to test their packages. And also, screenshot
> would be present only for "programs" (e.g. packages that are listed,
> which usually are rather large anyway). Noone said that screenshots
> need to be up-to-date! I think most users would be satisfied with
> something a few versions back. Finally, those screenshot can be low
> res, as suggested by Olivier. So I could give up on the "Click here
> to enlarge" part :) then screenshots can be 8-bit PNGs constrained
> to 200x150 pixels. That shouldn't be larger than 20-30 kB.

what's more, this bring the coherency problem where packages would
come with screenshots made into different desktop, with different
themes, with different fonts, ...




Re: [Cooker] Encrypted partitions : why /var cannot be encrypted?

2003-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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Pixel wrote:
> pplf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>During installation (using 9.1), when you create the partitions it is
>>possible to choose the option "encrypted" for some partitions like /home
>>or /tmp, but it is not possible to choose /var (an error says something
>>like : "/var cannot be located on an encrypted partition").
>>
>>Why /var cannot be on an encrypted partition ? I see no reason
>>preventing to do that...
>
>
> well, the encrypted partitions must not be be important for booting.
> The boot will timeout if no password is given, and then...

And if /var isn't mounted, most server applications won't start, since
they cannot write log files or access the data they need, the
initscripts can't touch the files in /var/lock/subsys. It would be a
very bad idea on a server, if the server is booted remotely, or by a UPS
after power returns, nothing would work, and it would probably be very
difficult to do anything remotely (unless via another machine and a
serial cable).

Maybe this is feasible if absolutely no deamons are installed (not even
cron, syslog). And if this is the case, why would you want to encrypt /var?

> You can say /home *is* important for booting, so maybe it's not a good
> reason.

/home isn't needed for booting. Only for a user to log in to X.

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Duncan
Robert L martin posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, 
on Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:30:01 -0400:

> what i would like to see is a way to right click on a loose rpm and see 
> whats inside (isn't there someway to do this with the rpm cli??)

In X, kPackage can do this.  kPackage is now a separate install as
kdeadmin-kpackage, I believe. 

In console mode, mc of course does this (well, sort of, not exactly right
click, but..) and all sorts of other stuff, using a curses interface.

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Re: [Cooker] Encrypted partitions : why /var cannot be encrypted?

2003-10-09 Thread Pixel
pplf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> During installation (using 9.1), when you create the partitions it is 
> possible to choose the option "encrypted" for some partitions like /home 
> or /tmp, but it is not possible to choose /var (an error says something 
> like : "/var cannot be located on an encrypted partition").
> 
> Why /var cannot be on an encrypted partition ? I see no reason 
> preventing to do that...

well, the encrypted partitions must not be be important for booting.
The boot will timeout if no password is given, and then...

You can say /home *is* important for booting, so maybe it's not a good
reason.



[Cooker] [Bug 6110] [ncftp] Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit

2003-10-09 Thread [pascal.terjan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6110





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With http://fasmz.org/tmp/ncftp-3.1.6-1mdk.i586.rpm the problem does not occur,
but I didn't rebuilding the current package.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.2 update policy

2003-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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Daouda LO wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>>>Ok, I must admit, I missed the first time wizzard on 9.2 (and was not a
>>>clubmember yet when I installed 9.1), for X crashes badly with my dual
>>>screen  setup. (A known bug in the Matrox driver) After I finished
>>>hacking, the first  time wizzard has long forgotten that it ever existed
>>>(and me too).
>>
>>You can easily access it after installation.
>>Start->Configuration->Other->Discover Custom Services (yes, that is a bad
>>place to put it, file a bug if you want).
>
>
> If you have better place, i wait for your proposal ;p
>

Configuration->Packaging->Access Commercial packages
or
Configuration->Packaging->Mandrake Club packages
(or something like that?)

Now that we look at it (and regarding the rpmdrake thread), maybe
"Packaging" is a bad name for this section? Maybe it should be "Software
managemnet" or something (similar to the section in Mandrake Control
Center).

Speaking of which, maybe drakclub needs an entry in MCC also (in the
sofware management section)?

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.2 update policy (was: gaim 0.69 and 0.70 are out )

2003-10-09 Thread Daouda LO
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> > Ok, I must admit, I missed the first time wizzard on 9.2 (and was not a
> > clubmember yet when I installed 9.1), for X crashes badly with my dual
> > screen  setup. (A known bug in the Matrox driver) After I finished
> > hacking, the first  time wizzard has long forgotten that it ever existed
> > (and me too).
> 
> You can easily access it after installation.
> Start->Configuration->Other->Discover Custom Services (yes, that is a bad
> place to put it, file a bug if you want).

If you have better place, i wait for your proposal ;p

[...]

> Must I post screenshots??
> 
> If you missed it, just run 'drakfw' from the command line, and this is the
> same thing you see on first login (if you haven't run it before).

The binary name is _drakclub_ (specific part for the club account
 + urpmi sources managements). 
_drakfw_ is the whole wizard which is not suited to be started from
command line. 

> The first page is default window manager, the 2nd page is email
> client settings, the 3rd is the user survey, and the 4th is the Club
> registration page, which does list the benefits a bit better, and
> has the following options: -I have a product Key and I want to
> register -I am already a member -No thanks.

Yes this is drakfw which is a concatenation of smaller wizards which
can be reused through menus or from command line (drakmail and
drakclub respectively to setup mail accounts and club accounts/club
urpmi sources)



[Cooker] kde styles...

2003-10-09 Thread Scott Chevalley
 
Hi, 
 
I figure I have to be doing something wrong, but I was looking to change the 
KDE style last night and the only styles I see are Liquid and the default QT 
styles.  I installed all the kdemoreartwork packages and the .so files are in 
/usr/lib/kde3/plugins but KDE is not noticing.   
 
I do get some messages when running kcmshell style from the command prompt 
about some of the files being linked against incompatible QT version (3.1.2) 
 
I have libqt3-3.1.2-14mdk installed, which I think is the latest. 
 
thanks, 
scott 
 



Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :
> 
> > A request here: the screenshots should be in the local language, if
> > possible. To newbies, it is important that the interfaces are in their
> > native language. And this is furthermore one of Mandrakes strengths,
> > Mandrake is more translated into native languages than MS windows.
> 
> why not. But this need to be done by users/contributor/clubers/...
> and so you may have apps_screenshot-fr and apps_screenshot ( en ) and so
> on. The right is installed depending on your language.
> 
> > Nah, I think installing programs based on the menu is much more
> > user friendly. I note that right-clicking in the menu is currently not
> > used, and thus free for perusal for new functionality.
> 
> No please. because :
> 1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install
> automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for
> the user 
> 2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he
> clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right
> click and then install ? see point 1

3°/ (hi hi)
it could be in a sub menu "install more software",
which uses the menu structure of the main menu,
has nice icons, and a good description

svetljo

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Re: [Cooker] setting most recently used menu

2003-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> Somehow I lost the most recent programs used in the menu - kde 31 from
> cooker.
>
> I then tried to restore this, but I could not find it in the
> configuration of the desktop, which is the kde control center.
>
> Trying mcc, I could not execute mcc as a normal user, although it told
> me to just ignore getting root privilegies - it repetedly asked me to do
> that.

At present, Mandrake Control Center is for root. Some drakxtools can be
run as non-root, but more of them should be in the menus (but how to
seperate them yet make them easily accessible?).

>
> (furthermore "keeping root passwd" does not work either, the root
> setting is still just ignored).

I think there is a bug for that one somewhere ...

> I then went on to edit the system menu via menudrake, as root.
> But I could not find a place to add the most recently used programs to
> the menu.

Yes, menudrake isn't the tool to use to change options on the KDE
desktop, only to edit the menu entries themselves ...

> oI found out that I could enter menudrak for my normal user by
> right-clicking the kde start button, but still I could not find anything
> to add to my menu for the most recently programs.
>
> Then under right-click kde-start -> panel menu -> configure panel
> -> menues I finally found it, but it seems illogical to do it here.
> I noticed that the default was 0 entrances, I think it used to be 5.
> I have the problem in both my systems, and I am sure that I had a
> functioning "recent ..." menu in mdk 9.2 beta 2. So it looks like
> somewhere between 9.2ß2 and current cooker the default for the "recent"
> menu changed from 5 to 0.

Probably an "interface team" request. IIRC it changed about the same
time the "Super User mode" menu entries disappeared, probably for the
same reason.

/me considers making a "kde-superuser-menus" package to put them back
... since I actually filed bugs to get some of them to work better than
on 9.1 ...

> Also I then noticed in the kde control center that there was a looknfeel
> section with a panel editing posibility, but that did not include
> editing this item. I find it strange that the kde control module is not
> available from the kde control center.

It is there, KDE Control Center->LookNFeel->Panels->Menus (tab)

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mer 08/10/2003 à 22:58, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :

> A request here: the screenshots should be in the local language, if
> possible. To newbies, it is important that the interfaces are in their
> native language. And this is furthermore one of Mandrakes strengths,
> Mandrake is more translated into native languages than MS windows.

why not. But this need to be done by users/contributor/clubers/...
and so you may have apps_screenshot-fr and apps_screenshot ( en ) and so
on. The right is installed depending on your language.

> Nah, I think installing programs based on the menu is much more
> user friendly. I note that right-clicking in the menu is currently not
> used, and thus free for perusal for new functionality.

No please. because :
1°/ the menu will be cluttered at first, You'd rather install
automatically a selection of package you think that will be usefull for
the user 
2°/ a user expect that applications in his menu are installed ! If he
clicks and nothing happen, his first though will be : It's broken. Right
click and then install ? see point 1


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[Cooker] [Bug 6056] [urpmi] urpmi.update and local mirror for updates (mdk 9.1)

2003-10-09 Thread [fpons]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6056





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Adding proxy per media will be done for next distributions, but I wonder if it
works or not, your report is not clear, it does'nt work if given on command line
or in proxy environment ?

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"urpmi.update --update" takes a lot of time to work (cca. 5-10 minutes) if URMP
has no proxy settings (file /etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg is empty), but there is
environment 'http_proxy' variable set (file /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh has proxy
definition).
That kind of configuration is needed because we have firewall, but Mdk updates
mirror location is on the local network (local mirror ftp server for Mandrake
updates).

I think that the problem is in calling 'culr' command, if there is no proxy
settings in file '/etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg'. Urmpi.update calls curl as follows:

/usr/bin/curl 0-s -I ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hd

I think that there is invalid parameter '0-s', which maybe? it should be '-0
-s', but I can not see the whole command line with parameters of the running
process to see the whole picture.
In this situation probably curl uses parameter '0-s' as an URL, which must be
found, but '0-s' URL doesn't exist.

There is no problem to make 'urpmi.update', if URPMI update source resides on
the internet (e.g. ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/...). In this situation URPM http
proxy must be set because of the firewall.

Maybe there is a bug in vendor perl module 'urpm.pm'?



[Cooker] [Bug 6110] [ncftp] New: Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit

2003-10-09 Thread [pascal.terjan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6110

   Product: ncftp
 Component: program
   Summary: Pressing é, à and I guess a lot more make ncftp exit
   Product: ncftp
   Version: 3.1.5-3mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


When pressing an accuentuated character, ncftp exit with code 0.
Tested on 2 cooker machines.

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[Cooker] [Bug 6109] [OpenOffice.org] New: OpenOffice can't start when connected to internet through a firewall

2003-10-09 Thread [serge.francois]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6109

   Product: OpenOffice.org
 Component: program
   Summary: OpenOffice can't start when connected to internet
through a firewall
   Product: OpenOffice.org
   Version: 1.1-0.rc4.1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


OpenOffice can't start when I'm connected to Internet through the firewall. When I 
disconnect from Internet, I could then lounch OpenOffice. The firewall still 
remains active. Then is only happend when I connect to Internet. If I stop the 
firewall an I do a connection with Internet then OpenOffice can start. The same 
problem arrive under the 9.1 version. 
To connect to Internet I have the wanadoo pack with the alcatel speedtouch 
modem. That means tha my connection is a pppoa. No messages error are 
given.

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Re: [Cooker] Misleading Gentoo vs. Mandrake 9.1 performance

2003-10-09 Thread Jaco Greeff
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Buchan Milne wrote:
I have been sent a package by someone that uses (AFAICT) two approaches,
running at install time, and running via cron. I will upload to contrib
(unless there is vehement opposition ...) this evening (I can't get to
klama from the university at present).
It actually only runs from the cron. The spec is MDK'ified RH spec, so 
that is basically taking their approach.

This would be interesting to have a look at it but the only reason why I
haven't uploaded any prelink package yet is because (i) this is indeed 
something to be run better through cron (daily for new installs, weekly to 
reprelink)
The way the RH spec (and the prelim spec I sent to Buchan) is that this 
is configurable. At present it runs once daily, performing a full 
prelink every 14 days. (This is configurable for your system, you can 
make it do a full run every day.)

(ii) prelink'ing all fail because libqt depends on libGL which 
requires PIC to be prelink. There is a way around that but this requires 
things to supported in our kernel yet.
I saw that on my test install.

- Jaco





Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-10-09 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 23:53 schrieb Thierry Vignaud:
> Pierre Jarillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/
> > >
> > > Cool. Something to play with in future :) . As said before, I
> > > can't really afford to work on/with cooker, this way might be a
> > > lot better solution for me to contribute to Mandrake
> >
> > Good conception. It looks faster than bugzilla, but it is empty.
> > Bugzilla is too slow : to display a bug such as
> > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5066 has a weight of
> > 438084 bytes. This is mainly due to the great number of  in
> > the  markup.
> >
> > With a 56k modem, at least100 seconds are necessary to load this
> > page, and 15s with an ADSL 512k. This is too much.
>
> vote for #5809 then :-)
> and spam warly about it :-)

Done. Hope bugzilla becomes usable sometimes in future. 

- page size
- DrakConf vs. drakconf => both get checked with the vote for this bug 
link=> results in 11() votes for this bug , same for bugzilla vs. 
BugZilla
- after back and uncheck one of the entries i get an exception , another 
step back and click on the button finally saves the vote. 

This all results in 5 steps or the like for each bug (including that he 
asks me everytime for login). So i have 5 minutes to work on each bug. 
(including 2minutes for load the page, hopefully only once otherwise i 
would need maybe 10-15 minutes per bug)

maybe use mod_gzip for the page containig all the packages ? lzs_comp 
saves me a lot of time if i can use it (once i have 9.2 installed) 

Steffen



[Cooker] New ATi drivers 3.2.8 solve KT400 incompatibility

2003-10-09 Thread Eric Fernandez
ATi has just released new ATi drivers. 3.2.5 drivers have been packaged 
for 9.2 in the commercial rpms section, but 3.2.8 offer a lot of 
enhancements, and especially compatibility with kernel 2.6 and VIA 
KT400. Will they be packaged for 9.2 and put in the commercial downloads ?

thanks
Eric



Re: [Cooker] Misleading Gentoo vs. Mandrake 9.1 performance

2003-10-09 Thread danny
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, texstar wrote:

> I thought you could blacklist libraries and binaries based on using the -b 
> prefix in your /etc/prelink.conf file:
> 
yes probably, but as all kde/qt apps load libGL it would be nice to have 
that one prelinked as well. 

d.





[Cooker] setting most recently used menu

2003-10-09 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
Somehow I lost the most recent programs used in the menu - kde 31 from
cooker.

I then tried to restore this, but I could not find it in the
configuration of the desktop, which is the kde control center.

Trying mcc, I could not execute mcc as a normal user, although it told
me to just ignore getting root privilegies - it repetedly asked me to do
that.

(furthermore "keeping root passwd" does not work either, the root
setting is still just ignored).

I then went on to edit the system menu via menudrake, as root.
But I could not find a place to add the most recently used programs to
the menu.
oI found out that I could enter menudrak for my normal user by
right-clicking the kde start button, but still I could not find anything
to add to my menu for the most recently programs.

Then under right-click kde-start -> panel menu -> configure panel
-> menues I finally found it, but it seems illogical to do it here.
I noticed that the default was 0 entrances, I think it used to be 5.
I have the problem in both my systems, and I am sure that I had a
functioning "recent ..." menu in mdk 9.2 beta 2. So it looks like
somewhere between 9.2ß2 and current cooker the default for the "recent"
menu changed from 5 to 0.

Also I then noticed in the kde control center that there was a looknfeel
section with a panel editing posibility, but that did not include
editing this item. I find it strange that the kde control module is not
available from the kde control center.

Best regards
keld



Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Jaco Greeff
Vedran Ljubovic wrote:
--- Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BTW, I like your interface, I think the layout is
quite nice, but I don't 
think qt is going to be an option since all the mdk
tools are built on gtk.
Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk
like Qt Designer?
Not AFAIK, but perl-Qt is finally in contribs now, with a nice new 
pqt-designer. But that (Qt) is probably not on the cards - it would 
require a lot of rework.

Jaco




Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Vedran Ljubovic

I just hope that others don't find this little
discussion of ours boring. if you do, please yell :)

--- illogic-al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > That's a typical windows user. mdklinux is not
> > > windows and users installing
> > > linux know that (at least most of them do).
> >
> > It's the argument of "never change anything, make
> > people learn our ways instead".
> Not never change anything, never change anything
> that doesn't need to be 
> changed. It's the argument of "if it ain't broke,
> don't fix it"

I just don't think that applies to interfaces. I.e.
where I work it's a rule to change the webpage design
every ~18 months. It doesn't matter that the old one
was perfectly fine. "Change is good", says marketing
people.

> No. and i'm serious here. 
Ok, you have a right to an opinion.

> > So 
> > basically, why don't we just scrap the group
> selection
> > screen and just install the whole 3 CDs?
> ok that's sarcasm, i'm guessing
It is... English is not my native lang :(

> > This goes to prove that the present way is
> > meaningless. Not to you because you're used to
> either
> > install everything or go directly to detailed
> package
> > selection. You're not a newbie.
> but i used to be a newbie, and newbillogic-al loved
> those menus because it 
> meant he didn't have to spend time sifting through
> packages that he had no 
> clue what they did.

And imagine if the packages were presented in a
familiar way? In such a way that you could have easily
had a clue? (eh this is about as far as my knowledge
of english goes ;)

> > No. I'll use all of these, but not all office
> packages
> > (just one), not all games (just a few), not all
> net
> > apps (just one browser, one e-mail client)...
> > blahblah. You get my point.
> but did you know which one you wanted to use when
> you started w/ linux. I 
> didn't so two choices were great. I tried koffice
> and it had a nice 
> interface, but office compatibility sucked. So then
> i went to oo.o but it was 
> slow as hell and ugly but it had great office
> compatibility. eventually i 
> chose function over form. but if the two weren't
> installed i would think "oh, 
> there's only one word processor and it doesn't work
> with word. this sucks 
> i'll have to boot into windows to use word now."
> I had konq and mozilla, etc. having more than one
> choice allowed me to know 
> what i wanted. once i got comfortable and
> reinstalled then i knew what i 
> wanted and could pick and choose as i please.

Agreed! So why don't we present them to users as what
they are? Why dont we offer two checkboxes that say
OpenOffice.org and KOffice, rather then just "Office
tools" and then, upon clicking on details, hundreds of
packages with cryptic names which are rather unusable
by themselves?

> if you select gnome package then eog comes w/ it. as
> for the others there 
> isn't one thing in that list that i would typically
> use. And that's probably 
> why they're not shown. the typical user goes 
> looking for chromium the game 
> not the setup utility, and etc

You're right about eog, but I still disagree.

> That's just personal preference. i don't think 
> fonts should be installed by fontdrake. the rpm
> installation works just fine, galaxy should not be
> installed by a theme manager, but maybe a theme
> group could be created w/ gnome, flux and kde 
> themes. as for ami and chinput, why should they be 
> installed by keyboarddrake, is there even such a 
> thing? the same goes w/ fonts. These are all rpms, 
> rpmdrakes so purpose in life is to install those 
> things and it should remain it and only it's 
> purpose. 

Which reiterates my point.
Linux is notorious for showing the system inside
details in your face. Would you fly an airplane that
has wires hanging all over the place, engines wide
open, no compartment between pilots room and the rest
etc? Well you might find it cool if you were an
airplane mechanic. Most people are afraid of computers
just as they are afraid of flying. That's why they
need to feel perfectly safe and using a well rounded
product.
So Mandrake was the first that successfully hidden
some details while maintaining functionality. Why not
push it further? 
"Package" means nothing to a person that doesn't want
to learn how their computer works, but "program" is
fine.

Note that I'm not requesting that RpmDrake should be
killed. It should remain as an admins' tool. Also you
still have urpmi and plain old rpm if you like.

> Making a separate, keyboard and theme app only 
> introduces more bug reports unduly.

They already exist. Keyboarddrake is used for
selecting international keyboard layouts, you probably
don't use it if you're from US or UK. Theme manager is
a part of Mandrake first time wizard.

> No but even those popups at install time when I 
> initially install linux gives a bad impression and 
> i don't want to deal with them that soon. there 
> are enough pop-ups in the install system (liek the 
> ones for dependencies). And le

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-09 Thread Vedran Ljubovic

--- Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  No offense, but
> there already is a 
> distribution (several) like this, why do we want to
> create another one?

They are not free (as in freedom)
Ok, as I've said in the original mail, it's a
community decision and if any of my ideas is accepted,
I'll be happy. It seems that at least some will be.

>  I don't want it to
> be like Windows where I 
> have to spend an hour or four on configuration and
> software/driver 
> installation after the OS install is done.

Funny, I spend the same amount of time tweaking Linux
systems... Perhaps autoinstall can solve both our
problems?

> BTW, I like your interface, I think the layout is
> quite nice, but I don't 
> think qt is going to be an option since all the mdk
> tools are built on gtk.

Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a tool for gtk
like Qt Designer?

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[Cooker] [Bug 6056] [urpmi] urpmi.update and local mirror for updates (mdk 9.1)

2003-10-09 Thread [mitja.masten]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6056





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-09-10 09:09 ---
With perl-URPM-0.94-6_91mdk and urpmi-4.4-38_91mdk URPMI works if environment
http_proxy is set, but no urpmi proxy is set.
Except I have problems if the name of update source is 'update_source' (as set
by default). The problem is as follows:

urpmi.addmedia update_source ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz
added medium update_source
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 1
(x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 2
(x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International CD (x86)
(cdrom3).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz]
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "update_source"...
ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hdlist.cz
found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as ../base/hdlist.cz
...retrieving done
examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz]
unable to parse hdlist file of "update_source"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "update_source"
unable to update medium "update_source"

As you can see from the last two lines, there are some problems. But if the name
of update source is other than 'update_source' (eg. 'updates'), then everything
works fine.

I wonder if that new packages will also be an official update?

And one suggestion:
To benefit from both internet and intranet it would be nice to have proxy
setting (because of internet) and additional NO PROXY settings (because of
intranet) to have both internet urpm sources and also urpm sources from internal
network to work together.

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description: 
"urpmi.update --update" takes a lot of time to work (cca. 5-10 minutes) if URMP
has no proxy settings (file /etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg is empty), but there is
environment 'http_proxy' variable set (file /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh has proxy
definition).
That kind of configuration is needed because we have firewall, but Mdk updates
mirror location is on the local network (local mirror ftp server for Mandrake
updates).

I think that the problem is in calling 'culr' command, if there is no proxy
settings in file '/etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg'. Urmpi.update calls curl as follows:

/usr/bin/curl 0-s -I ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hd

I think that there is invalid parameter '0-s', which maybe? it should be '-0
-s', but I can not see the whole command line with parameters of the running
process to see the whole picture.
In this situation probably curl uses parameter '0-s' as an URL, which must be
found, but '0-s' URL doesn't exist.

There is no problem to make 'urpmi.update', if URPMI update source resides on
the internet (e.g. ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/...). In this situation URPM http
proxy must be set because of the firewall.

Maybe there is a bug in vendor perl module 'urpm.pm'?