Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 02:48 schrieb David Baudens: Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 02:21 schrieb David Baudens: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. Thats good :) However, we need to ensure that kde-konsole is installed per default It is when you choose Console tools (or something like that, I don't have files to check here) during installation. I uploaded a new rpmsrate today (which probably needed to be enhanced, I need to do more tests to be sure). What i wanted say is that kde-konsole should be installed if kde-workstation is choosen. How am i supposed to urpmi without it ? ;) Using rpmdrake or using console (ctrlr-alt-f1)? Just my humble opinion Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:30, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable I humbly think that's not good. Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real check of the disk is to open a Command Prompt (that's how it's called, and it's installed by default) and to use chkdsk from there. Just to show that even users of XP (the easy OS) need sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake. Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these friends will surely often ask them to open a console or a terminal and launch whatever command from there. Hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to launch an XFree app). Thus, a terminal program should be installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the friend is a Debian fan he won't know that). ? I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal. I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. -- David Baudens MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 11:26, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. Thats good :) However, we need to ensure that kde-konsole is installed per default then, as on my testinstall of RC1 rxvt was the only terminal application installed. I guess something for Laurent ;) dadou, update rpmsrate so that kdebase-konsole get installed too It was commited. -- David Baudens MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 14:11, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 14:09:00 +0200, David Baudens wrote: On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:30, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable I humbly think that's not good. Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real check of the disk is to open a Command Prompt (that's how it's called, and it's installed by default) and to use chkdsk from there. Just to show that even users of XP (the easy OS) need sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake. Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these friends will surely often ask them to open a console or a terminal and launch whatever command from there. Hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to launch an XFree app). Thus, a terminal program should be installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the friend is a Debian fan he won't know that). ? I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal. I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. Then we should move Terminal menu entry from main menu to a subsection (Applications is probably the best choice). I agree. But is too late for 9.2. Moreover, for people not using GNOME/KDE default install (ie without gnome-terminal/konsole installed), rxvt won't appear in menu, even if it is available.. I think it is wrong, since our menu used to display all available graphical applications installed on the system.. xterm is installed if KDE or GNOME are not installed. -- David Baudens MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. David Baudens wrote: -=-=-=- Name: rxvt Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.7.10Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Wed Sep 3 21:14:33 2003 -=-=-=- David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.7.10-3mdk - Remove menu entry for rxvt package (but keep it for CJK package)
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 02:21 schrieb David Baudens: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. Thats good :) However, we need to ensure that kde-konsole is installed per default It is when you choose Console tools (or something like that, I don't have files to check here) during installation. I uploaded a new rpmsrate today (which probably needed to be enhanced, I need to do more tests to be sure).
Re: [Cooker] big mess with arts Obsoletes
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:12, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Mercredi 30 Juillet 2003 01:52, Olivier Blin a écrit : Hi, arts can't be installed on my box whithout removing some kde core libraries. This may be caused by Obsoletes in arts spec file, arts obsoletes lots of packages, which don't to seem to be related: ktexmaker, ktelnet, kvirc ... (to be continued by Nanar) Yes I continue, I am surprised (very surprised) to see arts obsoleting: ktelnet aethera brahms kreatecd quanta (hu !!) It is needed due to bad packaging of (very) old KDE packages. It works nicely since some release now. This mean, installing arts (and only arts) on a system will remove all thoses rpm regardless what provides arts ! arts produce on arts, libarts and libarts-devel. It will never replace the job of all thoses applications, These applications are obsolete. There are %version et %release tag. It will never remove a wrong version. We knew what we did when we putted those tags. [...] Cleanup this ! Normal rpm process, ie installing a new package, allready remove the older, you don't have to obsoletes the whole distro in this package. And I can have those packages without arts packages itself (because apps requires the libs normally). No. It is impossible. -- David Baudens MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Microsoft True Type Fonts for Contrib...
On Thursday 28 November 2002 00:46, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 21:33, laurent Montel wrote: On Wednesday 27 November 2002 21:56, Danny Tholen wrote: On Wednesday 27 November 2002 19:03, Todd Lyons wrote: I have tested this and it works well. Please look at the url below, grab the rpm, and test it. You will like the results and you will want to put this rpm in Contribs. Interesting, so now we have 1 mandrake employee in favour of it (Todd) one (with an attitude) against (David), and one in doubt (Warly). It's not a attitude, we are against, and it's finished. Discution is closed, you can continue to speak, if you want, but we will not re-add these font in MDK. *sigh* At least look at what Ben's package does. To say it again: NO ONE IS ASKING YOU TO PUT THE MICROSOFT CORE FONTS IN MANDRAKE. Is that clear enough? Do you want it up in lights somewhere? Ben wants his WRAPPER SCRIPT THAT DOWNLOADS AND INSTALLS THE MICROSOFT CORE FONTS in Mandrake. This is a different thing entirely. For you, maybe. But for Microsoft, it is enough to start an action in justice. So, I am sorry but I refuse to see Mandrake close for a such stupid thing. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Microsoft True Type Fonts for Contrib...
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 12:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Warly wrote: I do not know to what extend providing a way to do something that can be illegal can be punished. Yes, but distributing the fonts is not illegal. Read the These fonts will not be integrated in Mandrake's distribution. Period. This is our last answer about this topic. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Microsoft True Type Fonts for Contrib...
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 19:33, Ben Reser wrote: Before anyone hits reply and says we can't do this read how it's done. [...] We did not remove them some months ago to see them back. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Konqueror crash
On Thursday 29 August 2002 15:12, Frederik Himpe wrote: Hello, Konqueror crashes when visiting this site: http://www.radio1.be Just click on one of the links on the left, and Konqueror crashes with signal 11. This problem has happened only since the last few days. Check your installation. Works fine here on several computers. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] Eterm-0.9.1-5mdk
On Tuesday 27 August 2002 06:27, Ben Reser wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 11:13:07PM -0500, Vox wrote: If I remember right, all of those images are public domain...the ones that weren't were pulled out around 0.9.0 time because somebody informed mej about them not being public domain. I'm sure the message about them is in the e-devel mailing list (where most of the Eterm development mail is). Well at one point in time all those images were on the Eterm site IIRC. If there's a real problem with a specific image or images then fine let's take them out... I'm nearly sure that some ot them come from Digitalblasphemy. And I'm sorry but I have no time to check each images. So, because I need to be safe to don't risk law issues, I will remove every images which come with no copyright notice. And it will same for fonts. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: gnome-control-center
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 23:34, Luis M wrote: very good... is anybody working on the gnome 2.0 betas ( 3 ) for Mandrake PPC ? /.../ The Mandrake's Gnome packager is at the Guadec at present time, so nobody is working on Gnome 2.0 packages until he is back. Please also note that there will be no Gnome 2.0 packages in 8.2 PPC but 1.4. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: Install on early 2000 iMac 400 MHz DV
On Wednesday 03 April 2002 12:21, Jeroen Diederen wrote: Hi all, did anyone of you try to install the beta2 on an iMac 400 MHz DV (early 2000) ? /.../ I did. It worked fine (except for the dri/r128 problem). I haven't any of problems you had. About mouse: check that /dev/mouse points on /dev/usbmouse which should point on /dev/input/mice. Please also check that your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 contains something like that if you use the Apple mouse: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolPS/2 Option Device /dev/usbmouse Option Emulate3Buttons Option Emulate3Timeout50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #Option ChordMiddle EndSection About Xpmac: you don't need to use it. XFree 4.2.0 should work on your iMac. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Ati cards: new XFree to test
Can people using Ati card(s) can test new XFree86 packages available here: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/~baudens/ppc/ and report bug at cooker-ppc@. I'm very interesting to know: - if X works ;-), especially with Mach64 and Radeon cards (and other Ati cards if you have one). Rage128 should work but I will be very happy if someone can confirm that - if dri is used - if dri is used, then if the problem with KDM is fixed People using other video cards than Ati cards doesn't need to test these new packages because I have only modified Ati support. Thanks for your help. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
French keyboard - Console
Can people using a french keyboard with linux keys test the attached keymap? It should solve most of (if not all) problems which exist at present time. This keymap is based on the mac-fr3 keymap but I nearly rewrote it from scratch (at the begining at least ;). So, if there is something wrong with it (I'm nearly sure there are bugs), don't hesitate to say it. Now I know how this 'thing' works, it will be easy to fix bugs. To use it, copy the attached fr-latin1-mac.kmap.gz file in /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/azerty/ If you are using mac keycodes use the keymap.sh script to switch to linux keycodes. As root, do: [root@athena root]# sh keymap.sh linux loadkeys fr-latin1-mac To back to your old configuration, note what keytable you are using by default (please do it BEFORE switch to linux keycodes! - it is in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard) and do: [root@athena root]# sh keymap.sh mac loadkeys your_default_keymap For exemple: [root@athena root]# sh keymap.sh mac loadkeys mac-fr3 If your are already using linux keycodes (it should be the case if you have installed a 8.2 beta 1 or 2 and if you have modified nothing), you simply need to: loadkeys fr-latin1-mac To back to your old configuration, note what is your default keymap (please note it BEFORE use the new keymap - it is in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard) and do: loadkeys your_default_keymap For information, a new keymap for X should be available tomorrow (or the day after). Thanks for your help. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com fr-latin1-mac.kmap.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data keymap.sh Description: application/shellscript
Re: 8.2beta 2 and ibook2 install, everything working, almost
On Saturday 30 March 2002 20:44, Colin Ward wrote: On 3/30/02 6:48 AM, David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:46, Colin Ward wrote: /.../ Another thing was the login screen, it won't display right and looks ugly, and its hard to pick a different manager as well as password/login information. This was fixed though once I installed a newer kernel (2.4.19-pre4). /.../ Please give more information here. It seems (I'm sure) that the r128/KDM/dri problem is related to the r128.o kernel module. I tried to use 2.4.19-pre4 like you did and I saw like you that KDM looked nice. But, it looked nice only because r128 module was not used (even if it was loaded). Did your r128 module was used? What contains your /var/log/XFree86.0.log when you use 2.4.19-pre4? From what I can see yes it is. I can even get the openGL screen savers to work. The display seems fine to me, only 16bit color, but its crystal clear. If you tell me what I'm looking for I could give you more info Warning, have OpenGL screen savers working doesn't mean dri is used. You really need to examin output of /sbin/lsmod and XFree logs to know if dri is used. My main problem is with Gnome, I get bonobo-moniker- rchive(process 2005) has caused crash), anyone else getting this? I can reproduce it here. I'm trying to understand what happen (I doesn't know Gnome very well). I don't really use gnome anyway, but I'm one of those people that has to have everything working. /.../ Don't worry, it will be fixed in final release. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Evolution 1.0.3 build problem
On Friday 29 March 2002 23:30, Bryan Whitehead wrote: I can't seem to get evolution to build on a mandrake 8.1 system. rpm --rebuild evolution-1.0.3-1mdk.src.rpm gets to the install stage and craps out with this: make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/evolution-1.0.3' ++ cat /tmp/.X0-lock cat: /tmp/.X0-lock: No such file or directory + kill kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] [pid | job]... or kill -l [sigspec] error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.78272 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.78272 (%build) Anyone know what's going on? I forgot to add a BuildRequires: XFree86-Xvfb Install this package and problem will disapear. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: New Mandrake ppc Beta 2
On Friday 29 March 2002 19:43, Ben Reser wrote: On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 07:49:35PM +0200, Arto Leskinen wrote: I have no sound now, had it with 8.0 and 8.2 beta 1. The error is Failed: invalid agrs , SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT. It is not very crusial for me. artsd is broken. We're not sure why. You can turn arts off in your KDE Control Center under Sound|Sound Server. aRts never worked on PPC in 16 bit. Set it to 8 bit and it will work. Then just have your programs like xmms use something other than arts to play sounds. Some KDE programs might not work at all but something is better than nothing. Sound will work in KDE but in 8 bit. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: New Mandrake ppc Beta 2
On Friday 29 March 2002 18:49, Arto Leskinen wrote: I got the isos and managed to burn them after some trouble. I could not get them burned with Toast 5.x, but it worked woth 4.x. Complained somthing that theyt are not multiple of some size. Installation went well, the only problem was cups, which I managed to get to work by getting the qtcups stuff and installing it with urpmi. I had top use forse install twise, complained about conflict with some other package. I could not get printer installed with Mandrake control center, but typing printtool in console helped. Hum strange. I'll test that on Tuesday at office (I have no printer at home). I have no sound now, had it with 8.0 and 8.2 beta 1. The error is Failed: invalid agrs , SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT. It is not very crusial for me. Configure aRts to use 8 bit sound and it will work. New KDE packages will be available on Tuesday. Cosmetic problem in kde: I selected default kde look, but it opens with dark red background and only icons visible are home and trash if I remember correctly. You were loged as root. It is normal. Don't use root but a normal user account to work on your computer. I changed the display resolution with mandrake and it worked. Sorry? So after first try only problem I found was missing sound. My computer is dual processor G4 with ATI rage 128 pro. Only in KDE or in the whole system? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: 8.2beta 2 and ibook2 install, everything working, almost
On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:46, Colin Ward wrote: /.../ Another thing was the login screen, it won't display right and looks ugly, and its hard to pick a different manager as well as password/login information. This was fixed though once I installed a newer kernel (2.4.19-pre4). /.../ Please give more information here. It seems (I'm sure) that the r128/KDM/dri problem is related to the r128.o kernel module. I tried to use 2.4.19-pre4 like you did and I saw like you that KDM looked nice. But, it looked nice only because r128 module was not used (even if it was loaded). Did your r128 module was used? What contains your /var/log/XFree86.0.log when you use 2.4.19-pre4? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
[Cooker] Re: %make failed and beta2 report
On Thursday 28 March 2002 19:09, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Jeudi 28 Mars 2002 18:56, Gwenole Beauchesne a écrit : On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: 4) The most important, I am rebuilding some plf package for ppc, but the make failed if %make is invoked in spec file. The make directive work properly but I think this is a bad optmisation flag but I can't help you for that. I have just the message fg, no job running. rpm --eval %make should yield make [-jnumprocs] If --eval %thing returns %thing, that's simply because rpm doesn't know about %thing. Please check /usr/lib/rpm/ppc-mandrake-linux/macros or /usr/lib/rpm/macros for %make definition. On x86 side, the %make macro is defined in /usr/lib/rpm/i586-mandrake-linux/macros Bye, Gwenole. Thanks, I forgot to inform cooker-ppc: cd /usr/lib/rpm ln -s ppc-mandrake-linux ppcpseries-linux fix the problem. Thansk to David B. One thing I forgot to ask you is: have you done a upgrade or a clean install? I also have the problem after an upgrade (need to test with a clean install). So maybe is it related. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: %make failed and beta2 report
On Thursday 28 March 2002 20:24, David BAUDENS wrote: On Thursday 28 March 2002 19:09, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Jeudi 28 Mars 2002 18:56, Gwenole Beauchesne a écrit : On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: 4) The most important, I am rebuilding some plf package for ppc, but the make failed if %make is invoked in spec file. The make directive work properly but I think this is a bad optmisation flag but I can't help you for that. I have just the message fg, no job running. /.../ Thanks, I forgot to inform cooker-ppc: cd /usr/lib/rpm ln -s ppc-mandrake-linux ppcpseries-linux fix the problem. Thansk to David B. One thing I forgot to ask you is: have you done a upgrade or a clean install? I also have the problem after an upgrade (need to test with a clean install). So maybe is it related. Oops, sorry. Wrong list :( -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: %make failed and beta2 report
On Thursday 28 March 2002 19:09, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Jeudi 28 Mars 2002 18:56, Gwenole Beauchesne a écrit : On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: 4) The most important, I am rebuilding some plf package for ppc, but the make failed if %make is invoked in spec file. The make directive work properly but I think this is a bad optmisation flag but I can't help you for that. I have just the message fg, no job running. rpm --eval %make should yield make [-jnumprocs] If --eval %thing returns %thing, that's simply because rpm doesn't know about %thing. Please check /usr/lib/rpm/ppc-mandrake-linux/macros or /usr/lib/rpm/macros for %make definition. On x86 side, the %make macro is defined in /usr/lib/rpm/i586-mandrake-linux/macros Bye, Gwenole. Thanks, I forgot to inform cooker-ppc: cd /usr/lib/rpm ln -s ppc-mandrake-linux ppcpseries-linux fix the problem. Thansk to David B. One thing I forgot to ask you is: have you done a upgrade or a clean install? I also have the problem after an upgrade (need to test with a clean install). So maybe is it related. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: kdm and kde 3.0 beta packages
On Thursday 28 March 2002 22:21, Peter R. Wood wrote: David tells me it seems to be associated with using DRI with r128. You might try disabling it. Hmm, I'll give that a try. Sure, send it over. Looking over the control-center and bonobo SRPMS, it looks like this problem is not new on x86 either. Frederic has several iterations of patches that have been applied/removed. Ok. Also, I just downloaded KDE's 3.0-beta2 MDK-PPC RPMS and tried to install them, but it looks like it was built for a slightly earlier version than mdk 8.2beta2. They're looking for libpng.so.2, but libpng.so.3 is included with 8.2beta2. Yep, I builded them for 8.0 PPC. So it is normal they don't work on 8.2. I am downloading the SRPMS right now and I'm going to try to build them myself. Well, I don't know if it is really a good idea. These packages are very old now and KDE 3 final packages are building (not yet for PPC, I'm still fixing some bugs in KDE 2 packages which will be available in 8.2 PPC). Anyone else tried to use these KE 8.0beta2 packages on mdk-ppc? I did. It worked but a lot of work needed to be done to have good KDE 3 packages (it is not PPC related). -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: gnome/kdm problems
On Thursday 28 March 2002 22:48, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Jeudi 28 Mars 2002 21:48, Stew Benedict a écrit : On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Peter R. Wood wrote: It's interesting, sometimes it looks totally fine. For example, if I switch to VT 1-6 from KDM, and then back to VT 7/KDM, KDM looks totally fine. There are varying degrees of ugliness, from KDM login window totally absent, to multi-colored, to totally fine. David tells me it seems to be associated with using DRI with r128. You might try disabling it. Yes, But actual x86 8.2 use DRI with r128 and all work ! I don't know who, when and how this bug was corrected for x86. It was not. ix86 version use ati2 drivers, which doesn't work at all on PPC. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: screem/sysV-Init Editor
On Sunday 17 March 2002 14:28, Stew Benedict wrote: On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote: SysV-Init Editor - crash after i chose mandrake Not familiar with this one. What package? Stew Benedict ksysv or Configuration-Boot and Init-SysV-Init Editor allows you to start/stop/restart/edit services, and other stuff. i don't use it myself but it is an interesting program.. Confirmed, KCrash on launch here. Fixed (but not uploaded). -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] QT3 and MySQL-devel
On Thursday 21 March 2002 04:14, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Dave, I don't understand. Why can't the list of required packages in QT3-devel be changed to where the required files actually are instead of pointing to a package that doesn't exist? ??? [root@tox-cooker ~]# rpm -q --whatprovides MySQL-devel libmysql10-devel-3.23.47-5mdk [root@tox-cooker ~]# Please use urpmi to install packages. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com PS: Please put answer after question
Re: [Cooker] KDE RC3
On Thursday 21 March 2002 22:08, Timothy R. Butler wrote: Now that Mandrake 8.2 is out, is there any chance someone might be baking some nice KDE 3 RC3 binaries (official or not)? Andreas sounded pretty enthusiastic in his post to the Dot this morning... Hum, well, let me see... I have reinstalled our KDE build machine to be able to build quickly KDE packages for all distributions we are supporting, Laurent fight with RC3 packages and the build machine complaint saying 'I want hollidays!'... So, hum, yes? Just wait some time. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdeadmin-2.2.2-13mdk
On Thursday 21 March 2002 22:28, Claudio wrote: Alle 16:15, giovedì 21 marzo 2002, hai scritto: --=-=-= Name: kdeadmin Relocations: (not relocateable) * Thu Mar 21 2002 David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.2.2-13mdk - Build against latest RPM - Add 8.3 support REALLY?!? Shall we have another 8.x release before 9.0?! :o) But isn't the time for a real KDE3 testing now?... Just curious abot it! KDE 2.x will be available in Contribs in next distribution for people who wont/can't use KDE 3.x. So, I need to add some macros to prepare this. KDE 3.x will go in main and KDE 2.x in Contribs after KDE 3.0 final release and when all needed macros will be added in KDE 2.x. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] QT3 and MySQL-devel
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 16:11, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Hi - Trying to install QT3-devel, complains needs MySQL-devel. Thought this was fixed? No, and it will not be as I already explained it. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] policy, begging and mdk club (WAS: KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April)
On Thursday 14 March 2002 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not think this topic belongs on this list, but since you keep all going on about it, here is my 2 cents. I agree completly with mdks policy not to put KDE3.0 in main distro. BUT I fail to understand why packages like KDE3 and moz 0.9.9 are not build for members of the mandrake club. Maybe, time? Don't forget we already said that KDE 3 packages will be available for 8.0, 8.1, 8.2 and Cooker. Please just wait for a final release. This would convice many people to join the club. As you can read in the press, some people think mandrake begs for money because the club gives not enough extra's. I think I agree about the not enough extra's part. Texstars webpage offers much more to many people than mdk club and it is free. /.../ Texstar's Web page offers KDE 2 packages builded with objprelink. This is not a good idea at all if you want stability. Most of packages available on Texstar's Web page are already in Cooker or Contribs. Some packages available on Texstar's Web page are propriaritary software and require an agreement of their owners to be offered on such Web page. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] usefull - useful
On Sunday 10 March 2002 23:34, Jo wrote: This should be: useful for laptops Where? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Q about kde3
On Saturday 09 March 2002 12:55, you wrote: Hi just wanted to ask whether there will be updates for the kde3 packages kde3-rc2 is up on the ftp or it's a post 8.2 work A post 8.2 work. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-2.2.2-80mdk
On Tuesday 05 March 2002 09:18, you wrote: On 5 Mar 2002, at 2:30, David BAUDENS wrote: --=-=-= Name: kdebase Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 222 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 80mdk Build Date: Tue Mar 5 02:03:50 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: kemandrakesoftcom Group : Graphical desktop/KDE Source RPM: (none) Hi, I wonder why I'm getting this: [root@multi RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kdebase-222-80mdki586rpm kdebase-nsplugins-222-80mdki586rpm error: failed dependencies: kups 11-11mdk conflicts with libpng3-121-5mdk libqtcups2 21-17mdk conflicts with libpng3-121-5mdk [root@multi RPMS]# rpm -qa|grep kups [root@multi RPMS]# rpm -qa|grep qtcups Please also upgrade your libpng package -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: [Cooker] Can't view source in konqueror
On Monday 04 March 2002 13:38, you wrote: I've having some trouble viewing the source of a page in konqueror When I right click and then click on View source, the menu stays there and an empty editor window comes up When I close the window, I get the error KDEInit could not launch 'kedit' and the menu closes Not reproducible Please give more informations: - version of packages you were using when you tested - what happen when you create a new user -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: [Cooker] KDE File Association problem?
On Sunday 03 March 2002 06:02, you wrote: I still with the most current kde-base and cooker can not proprely open directorys on the desktop I have to re associate them every time i boot the machine // Sorry, not reproducible What happen when you create a new user? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: [Cooker] xmms freezing the computer...
On Sunday 03 March 2002 21:07, you wrote: Hi, When i click on an html link that points to an mp3 file with galeon or Mozilla my computer immédiatly freezes This is not only the X server because after the freeze, it is also impossible to ssh in from another computerThis makes it very hard to see what happens These are the packages involved: xmms-126-2mdk mozilla-098-6mdk galeon-103-4mdk If someone needs more info just ask ;) Something like an URL? Can be usefull to test -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: [Cooker] The domain you entered:
On Sunday 03 March 2002 23:05, you wrote: I have been waiting for some other soul to report this but! Have anyone seen this VERY often when entereing an URL in Konqueror? The domain you entered: www247newsnet is over the allowed maximum number of =20 characters Gni Never saw that Does/did someone see the same thing? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: [Cooker] Error opening text files while clicking on them.
On Sunday 03 March 2002 23:06, you wrote: It does work, it actually opens the file when you click on itbut displays an error message displying: There was an error loading the module KWord The diagnostics is: Is? version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020301 0:35 Doesn't help at all Version of packages you use are more helpfull Is this reproducible with a new user? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: KDE3 (knotify crashes)
On Friday 01 March 2002 02:28, Ian White wrote: I know Stew is probably busy with the beta cycle and hasn't tried yet but has anybody else tried compiling kde3 on PPC? Yep, I did For information, KDE packages are very often builded first on a PPC computer (my laptop) It is more easy to test them when I'm at home :-) Whenever I run it knotify repeatedly crashes The backtrace looks like this: // No idea and no time to try to find the bug Sorry -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: [Cooker] Funny Noatun problem
On Thursday 28 February 2002 11:49, you wrote: Hi, First of all, I'm so happy that Noatun works Thanks, David Now, the funny problem: If the monitor is black, due to power management, Noatun repeats the song it's playing Even if repeat is set to off :) Pfff testing -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://wwwmandrakesoftcom
Re: [Cooker] kdat
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 04:04, you wrote: Thanks. I was just curious. To continue the curiosity, could it be seperately packaged as a contrib? Too late for 8.2. Why not after. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Kde desktop icons and settings problem
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 01:19, you wrote: Since the most recent update to KDE all my desktop icons are all moved around and I have 2 cdrom icons. I tryed deleting one of hte cdrom icons and then moving all the others back to where i like them. I logged out and I did check the setting to save desktop settings or restore the session. and upon logging back in there are 2 cdrom icons and everything is all jumbled up again. Also when i make a directory on the desktop and try to open it it asks me for the application to use to open it. I have to type in kfmclient openProfile filemanagement to get it to work and when i do that it will save that if i log out and log back in but upon rebooting the system it looses it also. It seems that something is corrupted in your $HOME/.kde/ or in your KDE installation. What happen with a new user? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE DESKTOP ICONS
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 07:34, you wrote: WIth the current Cooker the Icons on the desktop won't hold their locations when i log out and log back in. they all relocate to different places from where i put them. I even went in and deleted the .direcotry file out of /home/me/Desktop and it didn't change anything.. Know problem. I'm fixing. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] sound problem with KDE
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 16:03, you wrote: A curious problem i have with KDE since about one or two weeks: artsd is no more lauched automatically at session start. However, i have sound (intro music, events sound) and mixer is OK, so i guess KDE fails to launch arts and default using OSS instead. I tested this behaviour either from runlevel 3 or 5. I'm joining my .xsession-error file, even if i didn't notice anything suspect there. ??? I don't understand. What means artsd is no more lauched automatically at session start? If you have welcome sound when KDE start, arts is launched. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] wine .....??
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 18:23, you wrote: Op wo 27-02-2002, om 17:27 schreef Michel Clasquin: I run Free Agent on it. Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes (!) to start up though, while it churns through the fonts directory If you have problems, then get rid of Mandrake's wine and use Codeweavers' instead. It works on some stuff for me. It crashes on the _beginthread() function if anything uses that. Have anybody seen WINE work on the 8.2 ? I could not even have the notepad.exe working. Wine always crashes. The version of wine mandrake ships has been bad for atleast a year now. Can we have a version that works for ones. If notepad can't even run than why include it Patches are welcome. I have unfortunaly not time to fix it at present time. Maybe can you ask Chmouel, he packaged latest releases. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE and GNOME both broken?
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 20:35, you wrote: When I start GNOME. I get the message: You are not running a GNOME compliant Window Manager. This message and the panel then both disappear (crash?) before I can even click OK. I am running the latest sawfish. KDE complains about not being able to start dcopserver, and soon after, crashes. I tried backing out to an older kdebase and kdelibs and it didn't help. I am not sure where the problem lies here. Check you installation. KDE and Gnome work fine here. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] kde desktop icons strewn about
On Thursday 28 February 2002 00:08, you wrote: kde seems to not be able to remember my icon position any more for some reason. Every time I boot up they are in the same crappy positions all over my desktop, and every time I rearrange them to no avail. kdebase-2.2.2-63mdk kdelibs-2.2.2-41mdk Know problem. Can you try with kdebase-2.2.2-64mdk, please? It should be fixed. I have just uploaded it, so please give it some hours to appear on mirrors. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] kdat
On Monday 25 February 2002 16:54, you wrote: Lonnie Borntreger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a reason that Mandrake's version of kdeadmin doesn't include the kdat tool? Laurent, David? What's the status of this tool now? Not engouth stable to be included in 8.2. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] qt3 dependencies?
On Tuesday 26 February 2002 23:50, you wrote: using rpmdrake and urpmi, I want to install libqt3 and libqt3-devel. why does: MySQL (not installed) MySQL-client (update) libmysql10 (update) libmysq10-devel (update) lpgperl (not installed) libpgsql2 (not installed) libpgtcl2 (not installed) libunixODBC2 (not installed) libunixODBC2-devel (not installed) postgresql (not installed) postgresql-devel (not installed) sfio (not installed) have to be installed/updated for this? I could understand if I wanted to *update* a package that depended on qt3, or update qt3 and an *installed* package that depended on it needed to be updated, but having to install completely unrelated packages that arent installed yet? You are trying to install libqt3-devel and these packages are needed to have a working libqt3-devel. Don't install a devel package if you don't really need it. If you need it but without database support, read Qt3 documentation and rebuild it. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE crashes in current cooker
On Saturday 23 February 2002 04:39, you wrote: Platform: 8.2 beta3, updated to cooker at 8pm central time from sunet. Use /usr/sbin/localedrake to change the language to Japanese-EUC or Japanese-UTF-8. Log out and back in again. Start KDE with xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :0 and bingo - crash. I selected English as the primary language during install, Japanese, Icelandic and German as secondary languages. I also installed kinput2 and FreeWnn from cooker so that I could possibly type in some Japanese! I put straces up at http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~narfi/xinit.en_US.out http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~narfi/xinit.ja.EUC.out http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~narfi/xinit.ja.UTF-8.out Maybe they well you something more than they tell me! The first strace there only for reference. Of course KDE did not crash with the locale set to en_US. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any further questions/comments. .xsession-errors please. Thanks for the report. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Busted KDE in Beta3?
On Sunday 24 February 2002 01:46, you wrote: Not at all. It re-creates the same dangling link to itself. i.e. .DCOPserver_bigpimp.sbcglobal.net_:0 is linked to /home/justin/.DCOPserver_bigpimp.sbcglobal.net_:0 It's a very strange bug... and mv /home/justin/.kde/ /home/justin/.kde-old/ ? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdemultimedia-2.2.2-7mdk
On Friday 22 February 2002 19:27, you wrote: Il 12:16, venerdì 22 febbraio 2002, Laurent MONTEL ha scritto: --=-=-= Name: kdemultimediaRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.2.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 7mdk Build Date: Fri Feb 22 11:20:03 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group : Graphical desktop/KDE Source RPM: (none) Size: 4736778 License: GPL Packager: Montel Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.kde.org/ Summary : K Desktop Environment - Multimedia Description : Multimedia tools for the K Desktop Environment. --=-=-= * Fri Feb 22 2002 Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.2.2-7mdk - Add patch3 : fix kscd crash when pc doesn't have a soundcard kscd crashes even when tring to change cdrom device... :o( C. Some errors when launched from a terminal? Which audio card? Do you use devfs? Other useful informations? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] mdk8.2b2 bug: artsd
On Thursday 21 February 2002 16:01, you wrote: atrsd will crash when noatum is invoked. /.../ With kdemultimedia-2.2.2-6mdk? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] noatun still not working
On Monday 18 February 2002 12:23, you wrote: noatun is STILL not working and kills artsd (see also bugzilla #5917) I think it should work not only on clean installs, but also on updated ones (config issue), in case you want tell me that it works for you. But perhaps it is a hardware pb. Here is some data. Updated cooker (w urpmi): $ rpm -qa | grep arts libarts2-2.2.2-37mdk xmms-arts-0.4-7mdk libarts2-devel-2.2.2-37mdk arts-2.2.2-37mdk $ rpm -qa | grep kdelibs-sound kdelibs-sound-2.2.2-37mdk $ rpm -qa | grep kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-devel-2.2.2-5mdk kdemultimedia-aktion-2.2.2-5mdk kdemultimedia-2.2.2-5mdk kdebase version? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] gtk-gnutella
On Sunday 17 February 2002 10:04, you wrote: Michael Reinsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! What happened to gtk-gnutella in contrib? I can't find it anymore on uninett and sunet... David Baudens said to me that it could be legally problematic to have it and asked me to remove it. I trusted him, but do not know the exact status of such programs. Legal status of programms like this one is unknown because they allow to access to non legal material. So, we need to be safe and to not distribute them. This is the same problem than for libcss. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] gtk-gnutella
On Sunday 17 February 2002 12:31, you wrote: David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 17 February 2002 10:04, you wrote: Michael Reinsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! What happened to gtk-gnutella in contrib? I can't find it anymore on uninett and sunet... David Baudens said to me that it could be legally problematic to have it and asked me to remove it. I trusted him, but do not know the exact status of such programs. Legal status of programms like this one is unknown because they allow to access to non legal material. So, we need to be safe and to not distribute them. This is the same problem than for libcss. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com By that logic, ftp clients and web browsers should be removed from the distro, also. Web browsers and ftp clients are not targetted by big companies that have billions $ to sue small companies like us. Web browsers and ftp clients were not created to piracy music like was Napster. And don't try to say that 99,9% of people who use Napster or Gnutella like softwares don't use them to piracy music or video, you will be ridiculous. I'm sorry for you but if you are not happy, it is the same thing. We can't take the risk to be destroyed for such things. We work to hard to push Linux on as many computers as possible to see all our work destroyed for such things. If you want to use Napster or Gnutella like softwares, download them from their home sites but don't ask to see them in Mandrake Linux. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] 'What do do?' and sound
On Sunday 17 February 2002 12:46, you wrote:
le dim 17-02-2002 à 12:26, Mattias Dahlberg a écrit :
David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Temporary disable 'What to do?' submenu. It should solve sound
issue.
Yes, it did! No more error messages saying /dev/dsp is busy.
HOW COME !?
how does a menu entry can interfere with sound devices ? !!!
Duplicate entries ('What to do?' was a link on
/usr/share/applnk-mdk-simplified/) confused kdeinit.
Please note that if you have no sound at KDE startup when you use devfs
seems to be a devfs problem and not a KDE one. All should work fines
without devfs.
--
David BAUDENS
MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Bug+Sol: KNewsTicker unable to launch Konqueror - missing file
On Sunday 17 February 2002 13:04, you wrote: Since 8.1 I see this bug in all versions including 8.2 Beta 2 it would be nice if the solution to this problem would be included in 8.2 final as it is easy (information taken from www.uninetsolutions.com/tbutler/linux/003.html): Can you try with kdebase-2.2.2-53mdk? I remember I fixed that yesterday but I don't remember if I have already uploaded a package with the fix. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] sound in KDE
On Sunday 17 February 2002 17:13, you wrote: Hi Version: (fmirror ftp.uninett.no) Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020217 7:24 /ChangeLog/1.652/Sat Feb 16 21:06:45 2002// Thanks, the starting of KDE now is nice with sound and no sign of /dev/dsp pb. RealPlayer and sound streaming works fine too. /.../ Does noatun work when you click on musical file? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] chbg-1.5-5mdk
On Sunday 17 February 2002 22:51, you wrote: Using chbg-1.5-5mdk hides the icons of the KDE desktop from use. If you use it with KDE, this is normal. Use the similar KDE feature if you want to do that in KDE. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Laggy sound performance
On Sunday 17 February 2002 23:09, you wrote: Scrolling rapidly in Konqueror causes skipping and static in XMMS. /.../ Does it happen if you use noatun instead Xmms to play music? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] xfce-3.8.14c-1: Xfwm crashes
On Monday 18 February 2002 00:06, you wrote: startx /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce -- :2 21 | gless --display :0 /.../ And one more entry for my TODO list. Thanks for report. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] kde startup sound
On Monday 18 February 2002 00:38, you wrote: I yanked /usr/share/applnk-mdk-simplified out and the kde startup sound works on every login. Before it would play ever so often. I had this problem ever since 8.1. Hopefully whatever the problem is with /usr/share/applnk-mdk-simplified is fixed in the next beta. Update to kdebase-2.2.2-54mdk (when it will appear on mirrors, it can take many hours). Problem should be fixed. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] The Good, the Bad and the Ugly latest Cooker install report
On Saturday 16 February 2002 10:57, you wrote: I always use my Gateway 9150XL notebook with 20 Gig drive, 320M memory, DVD/LS-120 - CS46xx sound and ATI Rage LT pro graphic. Oh, also a Xircom Realport Cardbus 10/100 (RBEM-56G) /.../ A suggestion: Could you add an option under the package selection screen of DrakX under Window Managers for KDE3 Beta 2 ? /.../ Once again, no. KDE 3 is not enough stable and our packages need a lot of work to be usable by everyone. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] blackbox-0.62.1-1mdk
On Saturday 16 February 2002 15:28, you wrote: On Friday 15 February 2002 09:33, David BAUDENS wrote: --=-=-= Name: blackbox Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.62.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Feb 15 15:25:13 2002 Hmm. Since this version, I cannot log out of Blackbox. I have to exit the window manager by, *ahem* less graceful means (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) (Or something similarly drastic) Where did the log-out menu item go off to? I know. But I'm working on sound issue in KDE 2 at present time. I will fix that ASAP. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 8.2 beta2 bug?
On Saturday 16 February 2002 21:28, you wrote: I installed MDK 8.2 beta2 a couple days ago, and it works pretty darn good for a beta. I do have a few problems though. I am not very technically able to help (no programming skills) but I am hoping to contribute to the development effort by reporting my problems. 1. The login manager is very ugly! /.../ Which one? KDM, GDM or XDM? What is your video card? Which image do you use (we don't use any image by default)? -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE adress internal?? [fwd] Re: [CHRPM] kdebindings-2.2.2-5mdk (from: sympa@mandrax.org)
On Friday 15 February 2002 19:23, you wrote: Hi! I tried to send the mail below to the adress of the the packager listed below, [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, mails to this adress are not allowed from the outside. ? This is of course not normal. I just asked our system administrator to fix that. But because this is the end of the week, don't expect to see it fixed befor beginning of next week. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] nice menus in kde3
On Friday 15 February 2002 19:15, you wrote: HOW did you get that? I got empty menus when i installed KDE3 beta 2 last night. Also, added /opt/kde3 in my path statement so i have to edit it out in order to go back to KDE2! Relaunch 'update-menus -v -n' and please post errors messages -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] nice menus in kde3
On Friday 15 February 2002 19:29, you wrote: HOW did you get that? I got empty menus when i installed KDE3 beta 2 last night. Also, added /opt/kde3 in my path statement so i have to edit it out in order to go back to KDE2! i just grabed all the kde3 and qt3 stuff for 30min from ftp.sunet.se, and that was it but kdepersonalisotor starts everytime i'm logging in ( tested with 2 accounts) AFAIK, it is a bug in KDE 3 beta 2. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] qt designer in beta 2?
On Friday 15 February 2002 09:43, you wrote: I installed qt2-designer 2.3.1-24mdk from cooker, however, kdevelop 2.0.2-7mdk expects qt-designer to be named designer, and not designer-qt2. A simple symlink fixes this, but shouldn't qt designer be installed with this name (or at least a symlink?), or should kdevelop look for qt2-designer? It is already fixed in version you use. If you have already launch kdevelop, delete old config files and lauch it again. See changelog of kdevelop for details. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] quanta-2.0.1-1mdk
On Saturday 16 February 2002 03:20, you wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 01:48:02 +0100 (CET) David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --=-=-= Name: quanta Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.0.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Sat Feb 16 01:30:28 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group : Graphical desktop/KDE Source RPM: (none) Size: 1447511 License: GPL Packager: Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com URL : http://quanta.sourceforge.net/ Summary : A web editor for the KDE Desktop Environment Description : A html editor for the K Desktop Environment. --=-=-= quanta =S 2.1-0.20010329.3mdk conflicts with kdelibs-2.2.2-35mdk I know. I tested packages before upload them. Just please wait some times. kdelibs is not a little thing to build and upload and mirrors need time (sometimes a lot of) to be in sync with primary mirror. For such things, please wait some hours before compaint. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE adress internal?? [fwd] Re: [CHRPM] kdebindings-2.2.2-5mdk (from: sympa@mandrax.org)
On Saturday 16 February 2002 00:36, you wrote: »David BAUDENS« sagte am 2002-02-15 um 22:32:12 +0100 : ? This is of course not normal. I just asked our system administrator to fix that. But because this is the end of the week, don't expect to see it fixed befor beginning of next week. Thanks. Could you please post an update as soon as something happens? It should be ok know :-) -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: netatalk
On Saturday 16 February 2002 02:49, you wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Larry Blodgett wrote: Is there some source of mandrake documentation that we have all missed? What page of the documentation is this command given? I guess we have all been out of contact with that page. Thanks for opening our eyes? Is there anything else about implementing netatalk, are is this everything? I have searched the Mandrake site for this kind of information on netatalk and I guess I just wasn't smart enough to find it. Most netatalk info (on the net in general) is dated and difficult to understand for most of us. Thanks again for your help. OK, I guess I'm rubbing everyone the wrong way today. All I was saying is netatalk is included. I really don't have the time to create additional documentation, that should be what the netatalk authors do. It's not installed by default, we don't install any servers by default afaik. I built the package and tested it here, /etc/atalk/atalkd.conf is the default, with no interface defined, and it doesn't segfault when run. It accepts guest logins and password logins. I did not get a chance to test printing. I did it two weeks ago. It worked. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Please switch of kdm AutoReLogin: painful and dangerous
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 16:57, you wrote: Hello, Mandrake 8.1 introduced a new feature, through the new kdm: AutoReLogin. It is supposed to build back the user session if X crashes (or Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is pressed, which is a handy way not to wait for eons for KDE to start when one actually wants everything else but KDE, but sometimes the default goes back to starting KDE anyway). Be aware that this opens a security hole ! Whenever a screen is xlocked (xscreensaver, etc...), anyone just has to press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get re-logged in as the previous user, but without the screen locked. (See http://www.google.com/search?q=autorelogin%20security) IMO, this should be turned off by default! (AutoReLogin=false in kdmrc) /.../ It have never been actived by default. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE Floppy icon
On Sunday 03 February 2002 04:46, you wrote: Using KDE 2.2.2 from the announcement, or from Cooker, if you click the Floppy icon on the desktop it opens some URL to realnames (yuck!) which is obviously not what it's supposed to do, then it says unsupported action listDir. Then, even though the floppy is successfully mounted, you right-click the Floppy icon, and it still says Mount, not Unmount, there's no GUI way possible to unmount it. Now I don't use floppies this way, I just use mount and umount in a terminal. But my sister and parents use the Floppy icon, so it's a rather big problem that this doesn't work. It did in KDE1 in MDK 6.1 and 7.1. I sincerely hope this will be fixed by 8.2 It is already fixed. Same for detection of all CD-ROM/floppy/Zip drives you can have in you computer. But it needs some tests and with Linux Expo I had no time to do them previous week. It will be uploaded this week. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Early Comments on MDK 8.2 Beta
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 20:06, you wrote: /.../ 1.) I'm not sure if you are planning this or not, but have you considered delaying the distro until the release of KDE 3.0? While you might still want to keep KDE 2.2.2 the default desktop, you could either have an option to install KDE 3.0 instead, or a way to install them side-by-side (i.e. perhaps install KDE 3 to /opt/kde or vise versa). SuSE did something like this in SuSE Linux 7.1. /.../ Once again, KDE 3.0 will not be included in 8.2 if it is not ready. 'Ready' means that KDE 3.0 need to be in final release and that the Mandrake's KDE Team + QA Team agree to release it. So, don't hope to much to see it included in final contribs CDs (KDE 2.2.2 will be the KDE avalaible in 8.2). KDE 3 installation will of course allow users to run KDE 2 or KDE 3. Beta versions of KDE 3 will be of course available in Cooker (but only if when we will have time to do it, i.e. when there will be no know bugs which need to be fixed in KDE 2). -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE Multimedia / Audio Problem possible fix ?
On Sunday 27 January 2002 14:37, you wrote: Hello! Noatun here doesnt work at all. It works fine on all my test machines. So, 'works' or 'doesn't work' means nothing here. kdemultimedia-2.2.2-3mdk If i start noatun there happens nothing. Im not a coder so i cant do anything with a strace output. At the end it hangs. You don't give enought informations. Is arts running? Are you using devfs? Is your sound card correctly configured? What is your hardware? Have you good rights on /dev/dsp, etc... -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] kde 3 + Mandrake 8.2
On Saturday 26 January 2002 20:11, you wrote: I believed mdk will wait for KDE 3. KDE 3 will not be included in 8.2. It will may be on Contribs CD, if we have time to package it nicely. Otherwise, il will be available for download when it will be ready. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] KDE Multimedia / Audio Problem possible fix ?
On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:23, you wrote: as I posted earlier in KDE with Cooker and Mdk 8.1 the kde media player doesn't work. It gives a cannot connect error. Internal Vis KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = noatun path = unknown pid = 2338 noatun: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! I went to KDE's message board and they had it documented that this is caused from a packaging problem with Mandrake. They claimed that it is caused by kdemultimedia not being compiled with the same --prefix as kdelibs is compiled. kdemultimedia is of course compiled with the same --prefix than kdelibs. So I would assume that it would be a fairly simple fix. Nope. Just recompiling kdemultimedia with the same --prefix as is used on kdelibs that should do it right ? If that could fix it would it be possible for someone to remake the package ? It probably wouldn't be that bad except that kde mediaplayer (noatun) is the default media player in kde. Your problem is not a KDE related problem. It is related to something other (probably a devfs problem) but it is definitively not a KDE problem (and it is same for 'CPU overload' for arts on i810 based computers). -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] kdebase-2.2.2-30mdk kdelibs-2.2.2-28mdk - konqueror crashes when trying to load linuxtoday.com
On Friday 25 January 2002 14:40, you wrote: Hi, I've tried recently to upgrade my kdebase kdelibs to the newest cooker ones - and for several recent versions, konqueror crashes when trying to view linuxtoday.com. Is that just me or is there some bug in konqueror? Thanks. Not reproducible. Please check your configuration -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] KDE problems
On Friday 25 January 2002 18:41, you wrote: I had this same problem in KDE that was in MDK 8.1 The kde media player doesn't work at all. It crashes upon launch and also the Ksys-v init editor program doesn't work. it also crashes upon launch In mandrake 8.1 i fixed the media player problem by replacing it with the kdemultimedia rpm from redhat and that made it work. I think it would be a good idea if it could be fixed befor any sort of official release ie 8.2 More informations please. Is arts running ? What is your hardware, etc. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] Kate, Advanbced Editor and Text Editor crashes
On Friday 25 January 2002 20:16, you wrote: There seems to be some problems with some of the apps in KDE When opening Kate causes it to crash with the following error message. 0x40e40509 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40e40509 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40ebfa0c in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x4061e95 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #3 0x40d50de7 in _IO_2_1_stdrr_ () from /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 It does the same on Advanced Editor and Text Editor when trying to save a test message. Not reproducible. Please give more informations and check your configuration (you need to run Cooker with all the latest updates). -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] kde in cooker
On Thursday 24 January 2002 21:31, you wrote: i updated to cooker today and kde lost a lot of icons (ive yet to try upgrading gnome) everything else but rpm related tools have been upgraded to cooker, did i miss something? Do you use a plain Cooker ? If no, please do. If yes, please give more informations on your problem because it is impossible to understand what happen. For information, we use KDE on Cooker every day and we have no problems with icons. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] last KDE2 - kicker hangs
On Thursday 10 January 2002 20:02, you wrote: On þÔ×, 2002-01-10 at 11:30, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: It usually happens when I start some program and then kicker hangs with large program icon popping up (I have icon jumping enabled). I can use start button and kill and restart it. There are no obvious error messages. Anybody else has it? It still hangs after the latest kdelibs update Do you use both KDE 2 and KDE 3 with the same .kde/ ? If yes, it is a know bug. You should use a different directory for each KDE version. At present time, KDE 2 still use .kde/ and KDE 3 now use .kde3/ -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: Security update causes ldconfig to dump core
On Sunday 23 December 2001 23:15, you wrote: On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 09:10:46PM +0100, David BAUDENS wrote: Downgrade at present time. BTW, this is a strange problem because it worked fine at office when I tested it. But I have the same problem on all my home PPC boxes. No problem! Now, should I just downgrade ldconfig or should I downgrade the whole set (ldconfig, glibc, glibc-devel, glibc-profile and nscd)? If the latter, what is the proper way to downgrade glibc? Remove new packages then install old ones or force install old ones over new ones? I think you can safely downgrade only ldconfig. I'm stressing my computers since some hours now and there is no problem at present time. But I am not a glibc and Co. expert. So, if someone can confirm/infirm what I'm writing, it could be a good idea. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] kde3 in contrib??
On Thursday 20 December 2001 05:42, jorg wrote: Why did mdk make the decision to put kde3 beta1 in contrib instead of cooker? kde2 beta1 was put into cooker as soon as it came out. kde3 beta 1 is far more stable then kde2 beta 1 was.. Maybe I just don't understand mandrake logic.. There is no available stable version of KDE 3. Replace stable KDE 1 by the unstable KDE 2 beta1 in Cooker was a (very) bad idea. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] failed deps on kdebase upgrade
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 22:27, Salane wrote: /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdelibs-sound-3.0beta1-6mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdeartwork-3.0-0.beta1.2mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdegames-3.0-0.beta1.3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdemultimedia-3.0beta1-3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdegraphics-3.0beta1-2mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kde-i18n-ru-3.0beta1-1mdk.noarch.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdesdk-3.0beta1-3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/sylpheed-0.6.6-1mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/xine-plugins-0.9.7-2mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdetoys-3.0beta1-3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdegames-devel-3.0-0.beta1.3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdemultimedia-aktion-3.0beta1-3mdk.i586.r pm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdenetwork-3.0beta1-3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdebase-3.0beta1-7mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/arts-3.0beta1-6mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdeutils-3.0beta1-3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/libarts3-3.0beta1-6mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdeadmin-3.0beta1-3mdk.i586.rpm /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/kdelibs-3.0beta1-6mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: libDCOP.so.1 is needed by krootwarning-8.1-21mdk libkdecore.so.3 is needed by krootwarning-8.1-21mdk libkdeui.so.3 is needed by krootwarning-8.1-21mdk Installation failed Uninstall KDE 2 before use KDE 3 (or don't use Contribs). -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: Re[2]: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] objprelink-0.0.1-5mdk
On Thursday 20 December 2001 11:47, you wrote: Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 10:46:32 PM, you wrote: VMM On Wednesday 19 December 2001 10:31 am, you wrote: Ainsi parlait Chmouel Boudjnah : [..] * Wed Dec 19 2001 Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.0.1-5mdk - Recompile for latest binutils. What's the use if kde doesn't use it anymore ? VMM How about figuring out why it doesn't work? It's a darn good idea, and if VMM it speeds up KDE, I'm sure it will be popular. VMM V. I (and a few friends) have been using texstars rpms for a long while and did not come to a problem. I only crashed my konqueror once, and it was a very horrible page that I did not blame it. There are ppl out there who use these, and if they are happy with it, why deny it ? Simply because KDE team doesn't officialy support it. When they will support it, we will support it, not before. Mandrake is not a distribution for experimentals things. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] #error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/qt3/bin:
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 22:28, Salane wrote: installing /home/Mandrake/contrib/RPMS/libqt3-devel-3.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ## libqt3-devel warning: /etc/profile.d/qtdir3.csh created as /etc/profile.d/qtdir3.csh.rpmnew warning: /etc/profile.d/qtdir3.sh created as /etc/profile.d/qtdir3.sh.rpmnewerror: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/qt3/bin: cpio: rename failed - Is a directory Installation failed rm -fr /usr/lib/qt3/bin/ urpmi libqt3-devel Qt3 was badly packaged before version 3.0.0-0.11mdk -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] kde3 in contrib??
On Thursday 20 December 2001 08:15, you wrote: Why did mdk make the decision to put kde3 beta1 in contrib instead of cooker? kde2 beta1 was put into cooker as soon as it came out. kde3 beta 1 is far more stable then kde2 beta 1 was.. Maybe I just don't understand mandrake logic.. My understanding of this is that 3.0 stable problably will not be ready for the 8.2 release, hence the contrib. Keeping options open for the release, I assume. (I might however be dead wrong on this.) As an aside: other distro's have found interresting ways for 2.2.2 and 3.0 to co-exist for testing. Anything like this in the pipeline for Mandrake? In January 2002. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David PS: please quote correctly.
Re: [Cooker] deps
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 21:30, Yura Gusev wrote: Hi, i think there is something very wrong with some deps. Chech this apt-get install kdevelop The following NEW packages will be installed: apm-scripts apmd arts docbook-dtd41-sgml docbook-style-dsssl efax enscript gphoto2 kdegraphics kdelibs-devel kdesdk kdeutils kdev_htdig kdevelop kdoc libgphoto2 libgpio0 libopenssl0-devel libptal0 libqt2-devel libsane1 libsnmp0 libusb0.1 openjade sane-backends sgml-common sgml-tools I disagree with apm-scripts, apmd, arts efax gphoto2 kdegraphics libgphoto2 libgpio0 libopenssl0-devel libptal0 libsane1 libsnmp0 libusb0.1 sane-backends I don't think that kdevelop have something todo with digital cameras, USB, faxes and Advanced Power Management (APM) It have because dependencies have. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] Why kdelibs-2.2.2-17mdk in main and kdelibs-3.0beta1-6mdk in contrib?
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 15:05, you wrote: Hi, Why kdelibs-2.2.2-17mdk in main and kdelibs-3.0beta1-6mdk in contrib? Because the first one is stable and the second one is not ? -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: Wheel Mouse
On Friday 26 October 2001 05:58, you wrote: I have a Logitech 3 button mouse, with a wheel, plugged into the USB port on my tiPB. The three buttons work correctly, but the wheel doesn't. I have tried selecting Wheel Mouse within the Hardware section of Mandrake Control Center but my changes aren't being saved. I figured I could hack the XF86Config-4 file but I am unsure what to put into the mouse section. Any ideas? You can use: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device/dev/mouse EndSection It works fine here. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] (cosmetic) Lilo menu screen
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 23:15, you wrote: 3/ I still think that Lilo is not the right place to write Welcome to Mandrake Linux, for two reasons : first, you are not necessarily going to boot Mandrake; second : it's not possible to easily translate that string. All that hard translation work spoiled on the first screen, what a pity! You are right but it will not be modified in 8.1 because time to draw images for 8.1 is closed for our artists. It's in specs for next release. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdevelop-2.0-5mdk
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 00:42, you wrote: Le Jeudi 30 Août 2001 07:45, Laurent MONTEL scribit : --=-=-= Name: kdevelop Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 5mdk Build Date: Thu Aug 30 07:31:24 --=-=-= * Wed Aug 29 2001 Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0-5mdk - Update from KDE_2_2_BRANCH I had noticed before a very annoying point when I was trying to set up kdevelop : it was unable to find the KDE documentation, and I didn't know where it was. How can I do it ? I can't reproduce it. Which version of Kdevelop do you use? Furthermore concerning this : [will@bastard will]$ echo $KDEDIR [will@bastard will]$ Maybe we could set this environment variable ? It's not needed it's implicit. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [francisco perez perezgarzon@hotmail.com] HI
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 20:05, you wrote: /.../ As far as DVD. Unfortunately DVD support on Linux as a whole is lacking. Without a legal version of the decryption version Mandrake can't ship a DVD player that would functionally play most DVD movies that are sold in a store. In the past I have attempted to make DVD work on X86 without much luck. I've never attempted on my Titanium. Though I would imagine any instructions that explained how to do it on Mandrake would be applicable to PPC so long as you recompiled everything that was X86. Look for Videolan. It's not yet perfect but it's on the good way. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [francisco perez perezgarzon@hotmail.com] HI
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 00:10, you wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:40:52PM -0400, Jonathan Sailor wrote: Ouch. Apple can ? Yes because Apple licensed the patented or copyrighted (not sure which here) code to decode the the encrypted data on most DVDs. Mandrake ships very little proprietary software in the core distribution (and without Netscape in the PPC version I think there isn't any). AFAIK, there is only free softwares in PPC distribution (and without Netscape because totally outdated on PPC and can be safely replaced with Konqueror/Kmail or Mozilla). -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: [Cooker] Nice KDE background - where has it gone?
On Friday 31 August 2001 13:00, you wrote: This screenshot: http://static.kdenews.org/content/kde2.2/images/snapshot7.png shows really nice KDE background. Whish come from Mac OS X so which is forbidden, so which was deleted. I remember having it once (after some beta update) but then it disappeared again and I cannot find it anymore. Anybody knows how can I get it back? Grab it from sources. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
