Re: [Cooker] 9.1 final
It's 13.1-1, that's how. BUT, it seemed to break lots in my cooker, hope it doesn't on the release system. Cheers Jason Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:44, Till Kamppeter wrote: Michael Scherer wrote: Entête en cours de reécriture, merci de patienter en lisant la réponse au mail de Frederic Lepied, à Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 00:02 9.1 is gone to production. In the name of MandrakeSoft engineering team, I would like to thank all the cookers for the great help you provided to build this release. Thank you very much ! Well, this is great, but, I didn't see a new release of the kernel. Can you please tell to me that the security hole discovered this morning is closed ? Check your Cooker mirror whether it already caught up kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk. This is the fixed one. The Cooker on our compilation cluster is exactly 9.1 now, including this kernel. So update as soon as you r mirror gets the new kernel. Till Erm, kernel 13mdk was originally released on 7th March, how can it have fixed a vuln discovered this morning?
Re: [Cooker] urpmi features
Urpmi needs to be able to resume if a disconnection occurs and use rsync to get the required differences between packages only IMHO. This would include Cooker packages. Cheers Jason Buchan Milne wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, [ISO-8859-1] François Pons wrote: Possible features of urpmi for next release : * virtual medium (no need to update explicitely, only with synthesis ?). * delay before accepting using a package from a medium (cooker) * always ask confirmation if fuzzy search is used (even for 1 package) * on the fly sorting of media (according to regex like file,rsync,ftp,http) * urpm centralized tools, as well as perl-URPM managing media. * p2p urpmi database (export database as magic synthesis) * -h by default for urpmi.addmedia * do install of package by groups which are shorter as possible (apt-get like) * allow file conflicts error to be handled by recovering errors and try again. * conflicts, provides and requires tag added for global rpm behaviour in order to allow broken dependencies to be not resolved or to avoid removing important package (generalize basesystem) Any other idea are wellcome. Can we have per-source 'skip.list's ? This has just shown up, since we run samba-server-ldap (requires samba-common-ldap), which obsoletes and provides samba-server (and vice versa) to allow users to move from one to the other. All goes well however, until you get a security update for samba, and it installs samba-server over samba-server-ldap and we have downtime while I scp samba-server-ldap packages to the server and add samba-server to the skip.list but now that I have newer ldap-enable builds (will be on ftp.samba.org soon), I would have to take samba-server out of the skip list again. I think this would be useful for people using (for example) PLF sources? You could put 'mplayer' in /etc/urpmi/skip-cooker.list (for cooker source). Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] urpmi features
It would also be great if dialog box came up before downloading packages that asked if you wanted to keep the rpm's on your system after download. It could also say somehting like, packages will be held in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms until you delete them Jason Greenwood wrote: Urpmi needs to be able to resume if a disconnection occurs and use rsync to get the required differences between packages only IMHO. This would include Cooker packages. Cheers Jason Buchan Milne wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, [ISO-8859-1] François Pons wrote: Possible features of urpmi for next release : * virtual medium (no need to update explicitely, only with synthesis ?). * delay before accepting using a package from a medium (cooker) * always ask confirmation if fuzzy search is used (even for 1 package) * on the fly sorting of media (according to regex like file,rsync,ftp,http) * urpm centralized tools, as well as perl-URPM managing media. * p2p urpmi database (export database as magic synthesis) * -h by default for urpmi.addmedia * do install of package by groups which are shorter as possible (apt-get like) * allow file conflicts error to be handled by recovering errors and try again. * conflicts, provides and requires tag added for global rpm behaviour in order to allow broken dependencies to be not resolved or to avoid removing important package (generalize basesystem) Any other idea are wellcome. Can we have per-source 'skip.list's ? This has just shown up, since we run samba-server-ldap (requires samba-common-ldap), which obsoletes and provides samba-server (and vice versa) to allow users to move from one to the other. All goes well however, until you get a security update for samba, and it installs samba-server over samba-server-ldap and we have downtime while I scp samba-server-ldap packages to the server and add samba-server to the skip.list but now that I have newer ldap-enable builds (will be on ftp.samba.org soon), I would have to take samba-server out of the skip list again. I think this would be useful for people using (for example) PLF sources? You could put 'mplayer' in /etc/urpmi/skip-cooker.list (for cooker source). Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] urpmi features
ok, where is that option in the gui then?? I KNOW what it can do from the command line, I mean that these great features need to be in the GUI. Cheers Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It would also be great if dialog box came up before downloading packages that asked if you wanted to keep the rpm's on your system after download. It could also say somehting like, packages will be held in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms until you delete them There is already that option :) --noclean Eric
Re: [Cooker] urpmi features
Yeah, it's hard to keep up with the names of MDK software sometimes, is it Graphical URPMI, rpmdrake, software manager, what?? Is it MCC or Mandrake Control Center, drakxtools or drakconf?? Plus, there are many drak tools available from the command line that are either not present in the MCC or are hard to find. All my point was, was that there are many functionalities of URPMI (indeed many Mandrake config/admin utils) not available graphically. If these could be made available via a GUI then more newbies would experience their power and advertise it via word of mouth. Cheers Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok, where is that option in the gui then?? I KNOW what it can do from the command line, I mean that these great features need to be in the GUI. Cheers Jason You're right, misread it. But this would be a rpmdrake feature, not urpmi ;) BTW, yes it would be nice to have an advanced mode in the GUI to have access to that kind of options. Cheers Eric
Re: [Cooker] Re: urpmi features
Yes, better use of rsync in software manager could REALLY save some serious bandwidth. I don't understand why there is not more widespread use of rsync?? And why is there no major ftp client that supports that protocol?? Cheers Jason David Walser wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: It would also be great if dialog box came up before downloading packages that asked if you wanted to keep the rpm's on your system after download. It could also say somehting like, packages will be held in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms until you delete them And if it held onto the RPMs, when updating in the future it could rename the RPMs to new version names and use rsync for a shorter download.
Re: [Cooker] Re: urpmi features
True. However, I think we can agree they support other protocols too. E.g., AFAIK, gFTP supports ftp, http, and SSH2. So why not rsync then?? Cheers Jason Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Mardi 18 Mars 2003 01:38, Jason Greenwood a écrit : And why is there no major ftp client that supports that protocol?? Cause ftp client support ftp protocols ?
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 1392] [kdebase] log in as root
Better to get it via ftp frankly... I'm on a modem and I don't use URPMI except on local sources for that reason. Cheers Jason Jesse Wagner wrote: urpmi.setup? And you don't need broadband to install kdm. Needs probably less than 5 minutes with a modem. Thats a bit misleading. The hdlist takes an hour and fifteen minutes to download on a 56k.
Re: [Cooker] security audit
On Friday 14 March 2003 09:23 am, jokerman64 wrote:
On Friday 14 March 2003 6:58 am, Han Boetes wrote:
Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a local exploit. I can think of a few other local
``exploits'' as well, like booting in single user mode.
this is not a exploit if you can _boot_ in single user mode it's
mean you have acess to the hardware and if you have access we cannot
do anything of security for you.
Ahem, you are right. :)
# Han
I disagree, i don't think that if you go into single user mode that you
should be root. You should still have to log in. The argument that someone
has physical access to your computer thus making it your problem and not an
exploit is IMHO fallacious. No one should be able to get root that easily.
So set a bios password or a bootloader password if you are worried about
physical security, because simply having someone not log in as root by single
mode won't save you from a bootdisk anyway.
Having a password in single mode would be useless as a means of physical
security.
Set your bios with a pw (edit pw, not a boot pw - after all you don't want to
have to enter a pw every time you boot - that sucks), set your bios to only
boot from HD.
Now in lilo set it restricted so that someone with physical access can't give
options to lilo bootparams without supplying a password.
Now no one can use a bootdisk to get around OS security, and no one without
the password can boot single mode. Problem solved.
--
Jason Straight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] security audit
On Friday 14 March 2003 10:11 am, Adam Williamson wrote: Not entirely. You also have to lock your case shut somehow to stop someone opening it up and flicking the BIOS reset... Anyway, in regards to the original bug, this isn't purely a local exploit, surely? Doesn't it also apply to someone ssh'ing in from a remote site? i.e., I could give a simple user account to someone in Australia, thinking it's safe, and they could then ssh in and use this exploit to get a root shell? Yeah, I just wasn't going that in depth. Of course for real physical security, you should install your systems inside a farraday cage so no one can use eavesdropping methods to get your passes too. Just the point that single mode isn't really a weakness, no more than being able to run bash as root is. If someone is allowed to get to single mode without supplying some form of security authentication then the administrator has already failed his job of being physically secure. May as well just log in as root at the console and leave it unlocked that way. :) -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] security audit
On Friday 14 March 2003 09:56 am, scott chevalley wrote: perhaps not by default, but if you type linux single init=/bin/sh at a lilo prompt (or grub, but it would look different), you can bypass any security on the system except for encrypted filesystem security, as far as I'm aware. Besides, with all the knoppix based CD distro's out there, including one that fits on a business card CD, anyone can boot the pc with that and Knoppix will automatically mount all the recognizable partitions as it boots.. Just my 0.02 Scott Dont overlook lilo's security - my laptop is setup to boot HD only, bios settings are pw protected. Lilo will boot linux without a password but requires a password if any cmdline options are given to lilo with a kernel, so it still stops people from booting with an external disk, and can't boot single mode. -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] security audit
On Friday 14 March 2003 11:11 am, Levi Ramsey wrote: If someone has physical access to the computer they can pass their own parameters to the kernel, including init=/bin/bash, whcih, bada bing bada boom, gives them instant root. man lilo - you can restrict it from allowing cmdline, or even booting altogether wihout a pw. -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
[Cooker] apache1 - why no mod_proxy
Why is the proxy module missing from binaries of apache? I noticed it's in 2, but not 1. While 1 has mod_gzip and not mod_proxy - this makes setting up a gzip compressing proxy difficult for our ISP ;) Thanks -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
[Cooker] [Bug 3329] [apache] New: Apache missing mod_proxy
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3329 Product: apache Component: apache Summary: Apache missing mod_proxy Version: 1.3.27-8mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, this might not really be a bug but with apache2 having mod_proxy, and 1.3 having libproxy, I thought perhaps it was a compile mishap? And given the current development stage of cooker I didn't want it to get missed simply posting to the cooker list. Thanks --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 3245] [Hardware] New: No sound since 8.2
So what is the final solution then?? I have the same card myself and have not had sound from 9.0 onwards, despite running sndconfig. These cards are quite common still and used to have great Mandrake support. What do I need to do to get sound now?? Cheers Jason PS, the sound on 8.2 with this card was great. Thierry Vignaud wrote: Murray J. Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SB AWE64 is an ISA card - the results of all these tests is nothing. Run sndconfig (have to install it - not installed by default). we do not probe for isa pnp card (not enough devel ressources, not enough interest, deprecated technology and what's more old harddrake-0.9.x used to freeze on quite a lot of machines when probing for isa pnp cards...) @duplicate=497
Re: [Cooker] Re: War
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 04:44 pm, eddie wrote: Cláudio Roger wrote: ROLF ROLF ROLF ROLF ROLF ROLF ROLF ROLF ROLF Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: we did get mails from some morons who said that they don't want to buy us because we are French and don't support the war. Hail we are like this we like to eat Camembert, drink Wine and make love :-p And are they going to start boycotting British products now too? Really, mixing politics and business is not a good idea ... Buchan Yeah, I bet the same people who stopped buying French products and renamed them didn't stop buying gasoline or oil yet. -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] Re: War
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 05:26, Jason Straight wrote: Yeah, I bet the same people who stopped buying French products and renamed them didn't stop buying gasoline or oil yet. Actually, I got a spam email from someone listing the fuel companies that used middle-east sources for oil and the ones that bought their oil locally or from Canada. They were pushing for people not to buy from the middle-east supplied oil companies, but rather to buy from the ones who were supplied by US or Canadian oil. -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] [OT] Re: War
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 08:04, Leon Brooks wrote: ...or buy it from us Aussies instead. (-: `Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.' Wise words. Cheers; Leon Very wise words. Cheers, -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 3245] [Hardware] New: No sound since 8.2
Thierry Vignaud wrote: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what is the final solution then?? I have the same card myself and have not had sound from 9.0 onwards, despite running sndconfig. These cards are quite common still and used to have great Mandrake support. What do I need to do to get sound now?? from draksound, you can try pick any driver and choose snd-sbawe Mine is an ISA PnP SB AWE64, so when I do this it says: No Sound Card has been detected on your machine. Please verify that a Linux-supported Sound Card is correctly plugged in. You can visit our hardware database at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3 Note: if you've an ISA PnP sound card, you'll have to use the sndconfig program. Just type sndconfig in a console. but that doesn't work anymore either, (though it used to). When I run sndconfig and choose my card and run the probe and it says: An error occurred opening /dev/audio if I try the SB16 test which used to work for the same card it says the same. I need a solution too as I am tired of having no sound in Mandrake. Cheers Jason
[Cooker] [Bug 1694] [kdebase] Konqueror hangs ejecting CD
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-13 17:30 --- This has been fixed. On Thursday 13 March 2003 10:47 am, qa wrote: --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Not using supermount: After mounting a CD and copying some files over trying to eject the CD causes kdeinit to run away with CPU and hang. Simple unmount works, with manual eject.
Re: [Cooker] The file /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html cannot befound.
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 13:08, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 11:57, Dennis D Courtney wrote: I read somewhere on this list that this had been resolved, but since then, I have updated the system and still get the same error. Someone please tell me where to find the index.html file that is used as the start page for Mozilla, Galeon and Konqueror. Don't know where it is but I just did touch /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html just to get rid of the popup But yes this one is annoying James The indexhtml package was wrong temporarily. To fix the problem, do: rpm -e --nodeps indexhtml then do: urpmi indexhtml Cheers, -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] Re: War
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 05:54, Pascal Terjan wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: And are they going to start boycotting British products now too? Really, mixing politics and business is not a good idea ... When I read things like the following URL, I can't see what they expect from us (except making us laugh). http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/news/0311french.html I heard that thing about the freedom fries and liberty fries on the radio up here in Canada and just shook my head. One of the restaurant owners who changed the name of the fries made a stupid crack that they could take back the statue of liberty too. I just shake my head. -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
[Cooker] 3 Full CD's please
Mandrake/Cooker Team, IIRC, Mandrake 9.0 only had about 450 MB on the 3rd download ISO. There has been much talk on Cooker about what to leave in (KDE Artwork) and what to leave out. There were some nice packages (AbiWord) that were left out of 9.0 though there was so much room left on the 3rd CD. Can we avoid this for 9.1 please?? It would be nice to use up all the space on the CD's at the very least. Kind Regards, Jason
Re: [Cooker] 3 Full CD's please
Thomas Backlund wrote: Viestissä Torstai 13. Maaliskuuta 2003 03:51, Jason Greenwood kirjoitti: Mandrake/Cooker Team, IIRC, Mandrake 9.0 only had about 450 MB on the 3rd download ISO. There has been much talk on Cooker about what to leave in (KDE Artwork) and what to leave out. There were some nice packages (AbiWord) that were left out of 9.0 though there was so much room left on the 3rd CD. Can we avoid this for 9.1 please?? It would be nice to use up all the space on the CD's at the very least. Kind Regards, Jason actually we have more space now on dowload edition, since 9.0 had: 700+700+450 = 1850 MB 9.1 will have: 650+650+650 = 1950 MB and the 650 MB size was chosen to get working cd:s for every i586 system and newer... Unfortunately every program tends to grow from version to version wich means the CD:s get crowded and something has to go... And not everyone can be pleased about what whould be on those CD:s... True, but EVERYONE gets upset when both their preferred software doesn't make it in AND the CD's aren't full. ;) At least if the CD's are full you could say well, Mandrake had to choose, maybe next time
[Cooker] Go Mandrake!!
Community: Island Nation's ISP is All Open Source Mar 13, 2003, 03 :00 UTC (0 Talkback[s]) (86 reads) (Other stories by Franck Martin) By Franck Martin http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-13-003-26-PR-CY-DP The government of Kiribati (Pacific Islands) has given the technical management of the country-code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) .ki to Telecom Services Kiribati Limited (TSKL), the sole ISP for Kiribati. In turn, TSKL has chosen to run the ccTLD .ki registry using only open-source systems. The registry runs with PostgreSQL as a backend database, and is accessible via the Web through Apache and an interface developed with PHP. All the DNS records are served with bind, and the whole system is running on MandrakeLinux.
[Cooker] kdeinit's using all my RAM suddenly?!
As of this morning after updating it would appear that my RAM use is at 250M after booting only KDE. It's normally at about 100M, anyone else seeing these results? kdebase-3.1-79mdk -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] kdeinit's using all my RAM suddenly?!
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 09:18 am, Jason Straight wrote: As of this morning after updating it would appear that my RAM use is at 250M after booting only KDE. It's normally at about 100M, anyone else seeing these results? kdebase-3.1-79mdk Nevermind this - I should look at all the #'s and not base on percentages and how much RAM is left. I should have looked also at the total and realized my ram came unseated :) -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 910] [Installation] Size in MB slider shouldalso have a text field
This feature is not necessary, as in addition to using the mouse with the slider you can use the right and left arrow keys to get an exact value, though it should tell you this in the explanation text as well. Cheers Jason Greenwood ken wrote: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-12 02:12 --- This is still valid in 9.1 RC2. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: During partitioning, the Size in MB slider should also have a text field so the user can type in the exact size of the partition. For example, I'm currently installing to a VM in VMware, giving it 512 MB of RAM. I'd like to double that for the swap space, for 1024 MB of swap (1 GB). Selecting this with the slider is somewhat tedious as I have to use very tiny movements for the mouse. Being able to type it in, in addition to being able to select it with the slider, would be useful. Shouldn't be difficult either, as there's already a non-modifiable text field above the slider, showing the Size in MB:. It should be fairly easy to make this text field into a modifiable text field, and link its value to the slider. (I've done such things in Windows, but am fairly new to Linux.) This is Mandrake 9.1 beta 2.
Re: [Cooker] WOW OT post count
Impressive, you must have a big HDD!! =) eddie wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 08:48, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 16:26, Brook Humphrey wrote: I just looked at my mailbox for this list and there has been approximately 45000 emails to this list in the last year. I had no idea kmail was holding 45000 email for just this one list. Looks like I need to do some cleaning. For Cooker and CHRPM combined there've been 20,000 just since the middle of January... 28413 for cooker alone and a total e-mail count of just over 80,000 e-mails in Evolution and still going strong. James
[Cooker] arts crappy sound (not sblive) - just me?
Since the last arts update on Friday (-2mdk), it seems my sound will play fine for a while then start stuttering, sounds like my sound is playing through a fan. I have i810 sound using ALSA drivers on a WOLK kernel I've been running for weeks without changes. The only thing I can think of is that it's got to be arts, the date corresponds with the date I started having trouble. -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] Single vs Double clicking: introducing drakclick ;-)
Thanks Jean-Michel!! =) Go Mandrake! jokerman64 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 March 2003 1:28 pm, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: For the people who find that changing their mouse settings is too complex, I just uploaded a drakclick package into contribs. It's a quick hack, made with GTK-perl, but it has two buttons to choose the mouse behavior, changes the kdeglobals file, and restarts kdesktop. Enjoy ;-) Jean-Michel now that's what i call service! won't be using it myself but i'm sure a lot of others will. - -- It is easier to run down a hill than up one. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bOlzUYMQt3AShMIRAmRGAJ9WQRR4ZCVXWNqLjCWXbuS9vYOcHwCguh/Q 0HuDxK8eBnA88QPmfBbi+GM= =USlz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Unified Community Site
I agree, a useful links page with some added content for completeness would be great. Cheers Jason MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: Count me in... Cory -Original Message- From: Guillaume Rousse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Unified Community Site Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 04:26, Austin a crit : Okay, last time this discussion came up, bad things happened. And also, this is a bad week to bring up new ideas. But the topic is hot, so let's throw the idea around. Imagine a unified Mandrake Community Web Portal. It's got: a cooker howto an up-to-date rpm howto a todo list and project tracking personal homepages for each developer a documentation wiki forums for mini-projects a simple web address/domain name official endorsement from Mandrake, but not controlled by Mandrake interface with bugzilla (somehow?) legions of fans Is this possible? Is anyone interested? I am. However, i don't want to duplicate existing work, neither to offer yet another repository whereas we all already have our own. My point was just to offer a centralized list of existing resources, and eventually host new ones if needed. I also think we don't really need any endorsement for success, as this would adresse an heavy issue: absolute predominance of oral tradition vs documented and polished policies in the community. BTW, legions of fans we already have :-)
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] dvd+rw-tools-5.2.4.1.4-1mdk
HOPEFULLY it means Mandrakesoft has come to its senses and realises we all need more time to do some bugsquishing prior to the (very rapid) final release to ensure that it goes smoother than 9.0 did. Kind Regards, Jason Greenwood Charles Shirley wrote: On Monday 10 March 2003 06:00, Warly wrote: --=-=-= Name: dvd+rw-tools Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 5.2.4.1.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Mon Mar 10 11:45:05 2003 [...] - New mandrake package I thought cooker was frozen, now new packages? (Admittedly, this is an excellent feature, but still, what of the freez?) -C.S.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] dvd+rw-tools-5.2.4.1.4-1mdk
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 02:36, Jason Greenwood wrote: HOPEFULLY it means Mandrakesoft has come to its senses and realises we all need more time to do some bugsquishing prior to the (very rapid) final release to ensure that it goes smoother than 9.0 did. Kind Regards, Jason Greenwood Mar 10 11:45:05 2003 [...] - New mandrake package I thought cooker was frozen, now new packages? (Admittedly, this is an excellent feature, but still, what of the freez?) -C.S. I would read it as:We need it to make the DVD version and it's not in cooker. I fear you may be right =)
Re: [Cooker] Re: URPMI in the spotlight, was: question on ftp sites
I think having URPMI have a resume capability would rock. AFAIK, it doesn't do that now. I am on dialup and when I lose my conn. URPMI fails and I actually have to kill the process to get it to stop. I also lose whatever has been downloaded so far (/var/cache/urpmi/rpms). As a result, I can only use URPMI well at work with ADSL. I also think it should ask whether to delete the locally downloaded files on completeion or not. If not, then if it were to get cutoff, at least I wouldn't lose what I'd downloaded so far. Maybe I am wrong about URPMI but that would be a great feature. My .0002c worth. Regards, Jason Greenwood David Walser wrote: François Pons wrote: Le lun 10/03/2003 à 14:22, Buchan Milne a écrit : While we are here, any chance to have gui tools for 1)Selecting how often to run automatic updates This could be great indeed, any idea how to improve urpmi/rpmdrake is welcome as next version will be designed soon now. Tabs for regular info/ files/ changelog. Other than rpmdrake is just wonderful. Maybe if I can ever get my Cooker mirror up to date again I can get Cooker running again and have more helpful suggestions.
Re: [Cooker] Re: URPMI in the spotlight, was: question on ftp sites
Yeah, but what about the gui version?? In the dialog box it should pop up and ask me. Software Manager/rpmdrake/whatever should have the full functionality of URPMI IMHO. AFAIK, it does not as of now. Cheers Jason Vox wrote: This time Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: I think having URPMI have a resume capability would rock. AFAIK, it doesn't do that now. I am on dialup and when I lose my conn. URPMI fails and I actually have to kill the process to get it to stop. I also lose whatever has been downloaded so far (/var/cache/urpmi/rpms). Uhm... --noclean gets rid of that problem (losing everything you've dlded so far). But I do agree on the resume thing...when I have to cut urpmi for some reason and continue later, I have to do it twice, because I have to see what package isn't fully dlded (it errors out on install), delete and dld again. Vox
Re: [Cooker] Re: whose bright idea?
Let's end this thread NOW please. Drakclick addresses the concerns already expounded upon at length. David Walser wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 D F wrote: On March 10, 2003 05:22, John Allen wrote: Yes, I think we could all agree that choice is good. I really need to re-iterate my previous point about repetitive strain disorder, though. To me, defaulting to a single click costs nothing. Since it's trivially easy to change to double-click, the arguments against a single click default are entirely spurious. Not defaulting to single click is like saying it's not necessary that public buildings be wheelchair accessible. Let's not forget, we're young, virile, muscle-bound. iron-pumping code jockeys right now but wait just a few years of mousing 12 to 16 hr a day and we'll see who argues for two clicks when one might do. That's fine, but what about people who have been using windows for 10+ years (ie starting with windows 3.0 or so), and use linux occasionally. My dad (in his 50s) has problems remembering not to double click on links on webpages and the icons on the quicklaunch bar in windows. He would not be very happy if every time he clicked on an office document he had OpenOffice start up (leaving it's splash screen up for 10 seconds or more by default). In some cases, older people may be better of ;-). Buchan Great, here's the Solution. Let's make Mandrake like Lindows/Lycoris/Xandros. Make it look *exactly* like Windows, and I mean exact... C'mon guys, this is Ludicrous. I used Windows for years and switch to Linux. I adapted. I'm sure your father is capable of adapting too. Just because something's different and takes a little getting used to does not mean it's bad.
Re: [Cooker] Re: OT: desktop advocacy (was Re: whose bright idea?)
Even before that kprinter worked...just type it in as the printer type and poof, the integrated cups dialog comes up (though I think it needs the --stdin argument to work). Now, if it could be set to be the global printer by default (and no, I don't mean by using a script), that WOULD be cool. Something like a setting in Kcontrol to do this would rock. Cheers Jason David Walser wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 20:51, Henri wrote: The two MAIN problems under gnome are certainly file management and...PRINTING Abiword has it's own printbox, so does galeon, so does gnumeric, so does ggv...can someone do something pretty about that ! You can't tell a new user to open an xterm and type lpr...and what if you want to print landscape ? Please read man lpr. That's not serious. That's a shame because there are really very good things in gnome panel (i love the two menus concept) , desktop (icons resizing) , control-center (really easier than kcontrol) and nautilus (image zoom with the mouse..) for ex. We need those two very important dialog boxes : printing and file selection. Hmm, interesting point. Let me check... Current development abiword and galeon have v. different print boxes to the older versions, but you're right, they're still not the same =). Galeon's is better, and has a landscape printing option (development abiword's doesn't, but then, for me printing doesn't work at all, so I guess that's still in progress :P). I don't have gnumeric. Current ggv doesn't appear to have a print dialog at all, the print document menu option just prints it. Which is a pain, I didn't want my test document printed...oh well :). Don't those apps' printing dialogs let you specify the print command though (lpr by default)? If you change it to kprinter, you would get a nice consistent CUPS-integrated print dialog for all your Gtk+/Gnome apps. Resizable icons - that's because GNOME has spiffy SVG support, hehe. I guess the KDE guys are gonna include this too, though. In KDE 3.2, yes.
Re: [Cooker] bug-reporting FAQs (was: 9.1...Delayed)
However, the newbie and expert lists help alleviate this by recycling the knowlege passed down from developers and Mandrake itself. Sometimes, a little encouragement from a fellow user goes a long way too IMHO. Ben Reser wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:56:21PM +0100, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: I'm personally skeptical about FAQ's and such documentation, because so many people plain ignore documentation in favor of asking questions (many different projects of mine show). You know that I've even written the cooker-FAQ and maintained the mdk-rpm howto, so I guess I can voice up :). This is faulty logic. You are assuming that because some people refuse to read documentation that all people do. That's just not reality. The Mandrake RPM Howto is an invaluable resource. I use it on a regular basis. I direct people to it on a regular basis. It would be far more useful if it was kept current and included details on things like mklibname etc... Fact is the documentation does decrease questions. But it will never eliminate them entirely. It would be much easier if when people asked commonly asked questions we could direct them to concisely written documents, rather than typing the answers out again over and over and over again. The amount of time spent producing the documentation would likely be paid off in the savings of time of people responding to these questions and in simply better quality output by those of us who do spend the time reading them.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Anyone know if there will be a RC3?
I am of the same opinion. I am on a dialup at home and it is all I can do just to stay up to date with the daily cooker updates, little lone test them. Updates are coming way too fast IMHO for a looming release date. Regards, Jason David Walser wrote: Warly wrote: There won't. Final is supposed to be done for next friday. Will be announced and available next week. I'm sure it can't be changed at this point, so I'm not gonna cry, but I do have this to say: This sucks, because right now we're supposed to be in deep freeze. Yet, things are being updated like mad still, still too fast for me to get my Cooker mirror up to date so I can even test it, just once, before release. If we had an actual week or so where it really felt like a freeze #1 we'd know the fact we were able to go that long w/out changing much means the release is in pretty good shape, #2 it'd give probably a lot more people a good chance to get some testing in. I'm probably not gonna get to test it at all and this sucks :o(
Re: [Cooker] Re: URPMI in the spotlight, was: question on ftp sites
I am similar but I am in that unenviable in between stage of still learning effective CLI use. But I am getting there. I try to imagine myself as a newbie though when discussing these issues since a lot of Mandrake users are new to Linux. If it works from the CLI, it's always good to try and emulate that fuctionality in the GUI tools if possible IMHO. Regards, Jason Vox wrote: This time Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: Yeah, but what about the gui version?? In the dialog box it should pop up and ask me. Software Manager/rpmdrake/whatever should have the full functionality of URPMI IMHO. AFAIK, it does not as of now. Uhm...that I don't know...I don't use GUI admin tools of any kind...I'm way too sick of errors that happen without me being able to see them happening...if I wanted that, I'd still be using windows :) Vox PS: And no, that doesn't mean I disagree with you...only that I have no clue if it has the same functionality or not.
Re: [Cooker] Am now experiencing random lockups...
On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 5:39 pm, N Smethurst wrote: You say random lockups.. Ok, it may sound bizzare, but I was experiencing pretty much exactly the same thing with RC1 after I had installed the 4191 nvidia drivers and UT2003. Everything would freeze occasionally apart from the mouse pointer. I started noting that the lock ups were happening mainly when I was doing something in Konqueror (copying a file, renaming, opening, etc.). Now I have installed RC2 but have yet to install the nvidia drivers or UT2003 and I have not experienced any of the previous problems. This may be complete coincidence, but.. I also experienced problems with random lockups when trying to use konqeuror and mozilla. In my case it turned out to be unrelated to the nvidia drivers (it was a problem with my modem), but I read that it can be caused by agp problems at high agp settings. The solution offered was to turn agp down to a lower setting (e.g. 2 instead of 4 or 8). Instructions on how to do this are inside the README file for the nvidia drivers. Why it affects web browsers more than anything else, I don't know. Hope this is of help! Cheers, Jason -- Jason Wood Homepage : www.uchian.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
Re: [Cooker] question on ftp sites
Hi all, Robert L Martin wrote: I think that is what urpmi is good at. Set up a cooker source, urpmi audacity will fetch and install all rpms that are required. - and how does one find a site correctly configured to use as a source and what if you don't can't have working network connections on the box in question? this of course is a question of finding files on a site MANUALLY That doesn't make sense to me. In that case, then even if you could find files on the site manually (how would you do that withoutn a net conn??) then you could not download them. If you can connect to the net then simply go here: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php#third and configure the URPMI source for your distro!! Done. Cheers Jason
Re: [Cooker] question on ftp sites
Thanks OT!! Also, the easy urpmi page is a great advocacy tool for Mandrake. Thanks for making it so user friendly. URPMI used to scare me a bit until I found that page!! Cheers Jason Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 00:19, Buchan Milne a crit : Either: # urpmi.setup or http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon BTW: urpmi.setup use list retrieve from this site ! I will working this week-end on 9.1 list and publish them. In fact, I am allready preparing the site for 9.1.
Re: [Cooker] Making room for kdeartwork
I agree 100%. Cheers Jason Jean-Michel Dault wrote: I was discussing with a few business people on friday, and we talked about screensavers and backgrounds. They *want* screensavers, as a matter of fact, the first thing they do when they receive a machine, is they put their company logo in the background. I realized we ship *five* php-manuals: french, english, german, spanish, italian... I suggest we keep french and english, since these our biggest markets, and drop the other three. This way, we have room for kdeartwork. WDYT? Jean-Michel
[Cooker] Latest Cooker K3B bug when writing ISO.
Hi Cooker team, In K3B, when I am trying to copy a CD but tick the box that allows me to only create image I have problems. First, when I try and change the directory where the ISO will be written to, I cannot. Either I can't navigate to the directory or when I press ok, nothing happens, so I have to stick with the default temp dir. Once I begin writing the ISO image, near the end I start getting errors. This is the terminal output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jason]# k3b mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::initPrivate(): trying to assign a shortcut (Delete) to an unnamed action. k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; k3b: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) \x08 Major opcode: ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] jason]# Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy The burn dialog box says: Copying data track 1 (MODE1): start 00:00:00, length 79:01:59 to /home/jason/.kde/share/apps/k3b/temp/k3b-1.img... ERROR: L-EC error around sector 355628 while copying data from track. ERROR: Use option '--read-raw' to ignore L-EC errors. Cdrdao returned an error!(code 1) Operation not permitted Please send me an email with the last output... In addition to this the relevant debug output says: ERROR: L-EC error around sector 355628 while copying data from track. ERROR: Use option '--read-raw' to ignore L-EC errors. But I know the CD is not the problem as it does this on any CD I try. This is on an AOpen drive that has never given me grief and this function has worked fine with K3B in the past. Cheers Jason Greenwood
[Cooker] [Bug 2944] [phpgroupware] New: phpgroupware/setup fails
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2944
Product: phpgroupware
Component: phpgroupware
Summary: phpgroupware/setup fails
Version: 0.9.14-2mdk
Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trying http://localhost/phpgroupware/setup
fails with:
Parse error: parse error, unexpected '{' in
/var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php on line 37
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output
started at /var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php:37) in
/var/www/html/phpgroupware/setup/index.php on line 62
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What about my laptop that I use for server testing and therefore have almost all servers installed, which I also use for multimedia purposes. I think it would be better to have mandrake just focus on getting 1 good distro out, instead of 3 or 4. Rather than have multiple sub distro's I like the idea of having one distro with all the options. The distrobution itself doesn't chose what I install, I do. If I want multimedia I install multimedia apps and kernels, if I want server I install server, but if I want both I don't have to mix and match from different CD sets, or go compiling. The reason I chose mandrake above all others is really nothing more than their excellenct choice of packages in the distro. The guys at Mandrake seem to package almost every title I use, and that saves me a lot of compile time. On Wednesday 05 March 2003 10:27 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Andi Payn wrote: Provide, in addition to the 3-CD distribution, a mini version that provides just enough to get you up and running and install other packages. You could download, say, a 150MB ISO for English, or a 180MB ISO for some other language (if there were people interested in maintaining a mini-distro for that language), instead of 2GB with everything. You'd have a basic KDE desktop only, everything needed to get on a LAN or cable/DSL connection, all of the packaging tools, the core development packages, and some of the setup/configuration tools, but few applications, no servers, etc. I've thought of creating separate sub-distros for various uses. For instance, there could be a Mandrake Laptop Edition, with a kernel and pacakge set optimized for laptops (possibly with fewer servers), a Mandrake Multimedia Edition (for A/V work) with multimedia kernels by default and a selection of packages that would normally be in contribs in the main distro. Each of the 9.2 editions would be compatible (ie you could take a Standard Edition package and install it on a Laptop Edition install) and stem from the same Cooker process. Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPmdfqxFHZPcobeHxAQJ95gQAoe9Ii7mB+DgVTWuM5NcGM9FssItOHUK9 QH6kVsm5B7jjJ7bSF8hHVl3sGhgqtEGN7zPd1LDWWu8qmZLL3sd58hpBj7L7geYg DA5aamhHmigZXfme+6nkOqkmqORSNGYQcaQ3yvBf31CY2z2f43OLXjz83uo9c17a eMX4LSn5nkg= =43IS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:32 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Jan Ciger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am pretty much green here, but I have to agree - let's push the release date few days. There are bugs, which are pretty bad/annoying and will earn pretty bad image to Mandrake. FYI we are still working. And while working, we happen to fix a few bugs.. Man, I've been using cooker for a couple years straight now, the only issues I have are konqueror not magnifying pdf's, radeon 7500's don't seem to be friendly with X ever, and I hate supermount. I can't say Mandrake should hold back on the release because I don't know what they are capable of accomplishing in the next few days. What I do think is that Mandrake should say what many other linux developers say, We will release a final when it's of final quality, we are hoping to release on [day] of [month], but if we don't; don't be a big baby, it just means we are making sure you get the best product we can deliver! I do think that release candidates were labled as such too soon, release candidates are what you have when the buglist has been abolished, and the new bugs are coming at a trickle. I mean, did anyone really think RC[x] was ready for release in the event that no new bugs were reported? No. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPmeChhFHZPcobeHxAQLgsgP/SD+8FTJdHOFMYrZXyTZUaRgl8eZkFWXm YMVDAtAuupvRRhB5kxm6NAEWK6nt9rBWFlT4KGx9z4zzum7yXP1DCqf15QPrzNTm QII2iCH/6zCUFswQn5OKPGGUKX9oZ7HLflt0APv7XzdaO4QIvH5mHjtB5Fe0Wisw scrQwB0sLTw= =UDLR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:21, N Smethurst wrote: Le Jeudi 6 Mars 2003 17:33, Austin a écrit : It just seems to me that people are really stuck in the idea of ISO's because they've never known otherwise. This is so true. Personally, I use urpmi and update each day. It is good to have some people testing the ISO's though. That makes sure the cd installer gets tested as well. -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
It's not just the CD installer that gets tested. URPMI does not test an installer AT ALL. Therefore, having people test ISO installs/Network installs is crucial to the beta process. Cheers Jason PS, I DON'T use urpmi/software manager on my cooker box at home cause I'm on dialup and URPMI doesn't resume if the connection is broken on remote sources AFAIK. As such, it is easier for me to download via FTP and then either freshen or urpmi from the updated local source. On my work box (9.0) I use mandrake update just fine. Jason Komar wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:21, N Smethurst wrote: Le Jeudi 6 Mars 2003 17:33, Austin a crit : It just seems to me that people are really stuck in the idea of ISO's because they've never known otherwise. This is so true. Personally, I use urpmi and update each day. It is good to have some people testing the ISO's though. That makes sure the cd installer gets tested as well.
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
Yup, that is basically what I am doing now except that I usually just freshen (rpm -Fvh *.rpm) instead of URPMI Auto Select. I will try your method and see how it works. I wish I could figure out how to use rsync via an ftp client, then I wouldn't be downloading all the packages, just the changes. I understand URPMI works with rsync mirrors as well but it doesn't seem to be working properly on my work box but I need to investigate further. Cheers Jason PS, good to see you again Todd. I was offlist for a while Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Greenwood wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:47:23AM +1300 : PS, I DON'T use urpmi/software manager on my cooker box at home cause I'm on dialup and URPMI doesn't resume if the connection is broken on remote sources AFAIK. As such, it is easier for me to download via FTP and then either freshen or urpmi from the updated local source. On my work box (9.0) I use mandrake update just fine. Paraphrasing, but a good way to do it is: 1) mkdir /home/rpm (only first time) 2) urpmi.addmedia Local file:///home/rpm (only first time) 3) ftp the files to /home/rpm (every time) 4) urpmi.update Local (every time) 5) urpmi --auto-select Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z7lQlp7v05cW2woRAhXvAKCf2XdXNIwn38eR3g9/hOH4h2p8iwCgvtfR tMAUibuLpBRMuGQCUXxipIg= =Phrg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:17 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: But that is not how release candidate is defined here. rc stage is when cooker is frozen from feature add, not when there is a setup MandrakeSoft thinks could go out. Clarifying what these terms mean is important. -- Yeah, by anyone elses definition that is beta. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPmfCvBFHZPcobeHxAQKfhQP/es5QzFTbjNuPLEAbsw8Wtaxe947QRa// uF6Xkksxdx/p+znxC7cWTwneBSDUCZV+WAQTsAap293AXw2geJTCi7K4ctfj7jjc wycPPwR7zPAlrFHa7tT059GPO64znp3e2lQ8NHfH2qG42+Up260Q0kTJj7kqDuvo +Vp5PhRC6S4= =wNwL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)
I was stupefied by its exclusion in 9.0 =( Kde artwork is PART of KDE, my vote is leave it in Cheers Jason Timothy R. Butler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Suggestion: split kdemoreartwork into kdemoreartwork-basic and kdemoreartwork-extras or -advanced, put maybe 2-5MB of extra screensavers etc into -basic so that the vanilla KDE has something besides a boring slideshow and Tux in his spaceship. Yup. That's just... sad. I'd recommend a couple of the 3D screensavers, too, like the fireworks-over-the-city one. Indeed. All of the KDE screensavers are just 1.5 megs. Additional ones like the fireworks one you mention could be had plus perhaps even the ever popular Hicolor icons and you'd still be under 5 megs. This should mean enough screensavers to give people the idea, but much less than 12MB in the RPM. As 9.0 shipped, it is too stark. Thanks Leon. :-) If you or anyone else would like to help out, would you please vote on my bug about this: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1859 (You'll notice I mention the idea of splitting the package) Thanks, Tim - -- - Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Enterprise Open Source Journal: http://www.ofb.biz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z9jHK37Cns9gJ0gRAt//AJ9mhsWRpXEduuAhrLl/Fl2ATh6ZXgCeNUof FBi4jH3ouHXMd3f8MRy20M8= =/YLG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 1245] [Installation] kdenetwork-kppp is not automaticallyselected as part of kde workstation install
Why the hell has it been separated from kde network??? This seems futile IMHO. Cheers Jason zeb wrote: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1245 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-07 00:31 --- I can confirm : this bug is still valid in RC2. kdenetwork-kppp is not installed by default, which is illogical and annoying (gnome-ppp does not work for me) for KDE users. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: On 9.1 beta 3, selecting an install of kde workstation did not automatically install the kdenetwork-kppp package. At first, I thought it might be because I didn't have modem installed (well I had a winmodem, installed, but it doesn't work until I install drivers for it), but I noticed the gnome-ppp package installed. the kdenetwork package installed, just not the kdenetwork-kppp.
Re: [Cooker] kdemoreartwork proposal (was: 9.1...Delayed)
I've been off cooker for a few weeks now but it seems now we're onto this bug voting thingy. How ridiculous. Bugs should be squashed as and when possible, not voted on. Bugzilla is such a nightmare to use that I will continue to do what I have always done...write to the cooker list with my bug reports and supply fix information if I have it. If Mandrake choose to do something about them great, if not, well I guess we will see how long they survive. I have been on the cooker list for a LONG time in total and done more than my fair share of beta/cooker testing and I do not like the way the system is heading, trying to distill down bug reporting and overulling direct interaction with the developers. This just bogs people down with the hassles of the newly implemented infrastructure. Development has to be EASY on the testers, otherwise they won't participate. I have participated very little in the discussions about 9.1 (though I have been keeping up with all the cooker updates) beacuse of the futility I've felt recently about communicating with Mandrake. I'm sure I am not alone in my sentiments. Regards, Jason Greenwood PS, I "voted" for your bug, whatever that means, even though once I ticked the box it was not abundantly clear what to click next!! So I just hit "enter" and that seemed to do it. Allotted a certain number of votes...hmph, then I will just post my other bugs to the list then...screwit. Timothy R. Butler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was stupefied by its exclusion in 9.0 =( Kde artwork is PART of KDE, my vote is leave it in Keep in mind, that right now it still isn't in. :-( If you could drop by the Bugzilla page I mentioned and vote for the bug, you'll be helping to eliminate this unfortunate problem. Thanks, Tim - -- - Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Enterprise Open Source Journal: http://www.ofb.biz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z91lK37Cns9gJ0gRAqiOAJ41O2W7cDU5UhXuJakGqu6UgfwjRwCfedOn X9f8AZ8lAUi89ByjLLscJTU= =SuRV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 15:22, John van Spaandonk wrote: And me On Wednesday 05 March 2003 22:40, N Smethurst wrote: I realise that I am a relative minnow here, but I nevertheless wish to express my agreement with Tim. I'm glad someone has expressed what I hesitated to say. Le Mercredi 5 Mars 2003 22:07, Timothy R. Butler a écrit : Is it worth risking Mandrake's future as a whole to get this distribution out by mid-March? I just don't personally see that as a realistic date when I'm using RC2. Mandrake developers are amazing people, but I still can't believe all of these problems can be fixed in just nine days. To me, RC2 seems more like a beta release and not a release candidate. I am in full agreement as well. The quality of the release is paramount. Mandrake has a reputation of being a good distro. for people who want to switch from Windows. Those people expect it to work out of the box with a minimum of bugs. Cheers, -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
[Cooker] [Bug 1694] [kdebase] Konqueror hangs ejecting CD
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-05 21:20 --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This has been resolved. Thanks On Wednesday 05 March 2003 01:51 pm, qa wrote: - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPmZbWRFHZPcobeHxAQLsnAP7BlwUcZghNsN+Ws2MZpZGlTJIlER9v+nf iycs9AUoEmAjjuB2gZJCVtxiWDzOo8dn1VhNmod+dPje9AV1X2GekCI53LH8zI+S 60TUfQCH8OxYg7WSCYT6R741iGmr2058x27e4HSR/5QPiBdpNI6R9BrnWK1JgzCx cyydb/dlM9M= =3T0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Not using supermount: After mounting a CD and copying some files over trying to eject the CD causes kdeinit to run away with CPU and hang. Simple unmount works, with manual eject.
[Cooker] [Bug 2741] [XFree86] XFree fails to restart after logout
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2741 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-05 21:30 --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I get the same thing with my 7500 with dri enabled, disable dri and lose 3d but gain the ability to logout without video lockup. On Wednesday 05 March 2003 01:54 pm, alan wrote: - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPmZc5RFHZPcobeHxAQKH/AQAsFWUkPGdIhl6b51xUvO3q2iRCXcn3VGz 59JVE6YqUaorm5NwAjDLaebDCuejYeNSaEvsmqcY1gkiu4E1mgkY+lq3fYMpjYen CMuWEfjIlcMyoCQ+MkHIbvcgvUZ36zx1ZyYttcqIja+a5AYOvQjthOBa0nFcVhlT +KJyYS/01r4= =Fmt0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: 1. Log in to Mandrake 9.1 RC2 as any user (including root) using KDM (user has the KDE environment). 2. Do whatever. 3. Logout from the KDE environment. 4. After logout the screen goes blank, the signal from the graphics card switches off and you cannot get any login screen up (textual or graphical). Under 9.0 the screen would blank before X starts up with KDM again, this does not appear to be happening under 9.1RC2. I am using a dual P-III SMP system with an ATI Radeon 64Mbyte DDR graphics card.
[Cooker] [Bug 2659] [kdebase-kdm] KDM/XDM/MDKKDM/GDM, XFree86 4.3, kernel 2.4.21-0.11mdk, DRI enabled, DM hangs
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2659 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-05 21:30 --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, same thing being talked about in bug 2741. I get it too with radeon mobility 7500 using ATI gatos drivers and kernel mod for my home brew kernel as well. On Wednesday 05 March 2003 03:10 pm, vasu wrote: - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPmZdkBFHZPcobeHxAQL37QQArgJ9iR6za4cuSjdt3oD9bvdSrhP7MtD+ C7baPvbbAe6ypCqU8EDrrRwIMs3zLrI0slcTFh7VaaMmzqeWWXkgCFG3Oto5LLDv HvItkRrTeDF96MOQBitywDtVC0VHRwycckBhJnRK2+1JBgSWBGHruRHujyVe5Hzq inFEUnDlLz4= =/0xN -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: using graphical login hangs after one login and logout. No response to even ctrl-alt-del. Disabling DRI in xf86config allows multiple logins without kdm hanging. Is reproducible regardless of DM used - even xdm hangs. Also, DRI works OK the first time through KDM and whenever X is started from console mode using startx. cpq presario 1720 us laptop - p3 coppermine, radeom mobility, updated Mdk 9.0 ( from cooker) .
[Cooker] [Bug 2532] [acpi] some acpi modules not working on dell inspiron 8100
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2532 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-06 00:40 --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does the 8100 even use ACPI? I ran apm on mine when I had it. On Wednesday 05 March 2003 06:20 pm, ravachol wrote: - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPmaIdRFHZPcobeHxAQIM5AP7BKtxQ69TxL85IHTPLs1jYC4woaRDoZlB CiQsiy17x5lbvRTuEFK3snITgQIuCLFzMAmVjvlSEtgpgLyvL2SKw9FenSXKRz0Z vomkP1KX3lge/Ikuoc6ZF3P8Gvg1Pc2yOti0IRqTmCkYCnvIvBz+zPuP6qhwjnHL 9qvPQ9OEoJU= =hnYb -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Laptop is a dell inspiron 8100 with latest (A14) bios + Mandrake-9.1 rc1 + kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.10mdk-1-1mdk. No problems with acpi during install and the /proc/acpi entries for the components compiled into kernel were all created. Acpi modules had to be loaded by hand and some showed errors in /var/log/messages such as: Feb 28 11:47:22 ef kernel: ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery absent) Feb 28 11:47:22 ef kernel: ACPI-0188: *** Warning: Buffer created with zero length in AML Feb 28 11:48:22 ef kernel: ACPI: Thermal Zone [THM] (25 C) Feb 28 11:49:32 ef kernel: ACPI-0188: *** Warning: Buffer created with zero length in AML Feb 28 11:49:32 ef kernel: -0072: *** Error: ut_allocate: Attempt to allocate zero bytes But all modules appear to be loaded: # /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted thermal 8224 0 (unused) fan 2528 0 (unused) button 3724 0 (unused) processor 10872 0 [thermal] ac 2816 0 (unused) battery 7008 0 (unused) All entries for the modules are also created in /proc/acpi but not everything is working, for example the battery. When the laptop is connected to a power outlet: # cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC/state state: on-line # cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: unknown present rate:0 mA remaining capacity: 0 mAh present voltage: 0 mV When the laptop is running on the battery: # cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC/state state: off-line # cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: unknown present rate:0 mA remaining capacity: 0 mAh present voltage: 0 mV Also 'info' under /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1 appears to be 'dead': # cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info present: yes design capacity: 0 mWh last full capacity: 0 mWh battery technology: non-rechargeable design voltage: 0 mV design capacity warning: 0 mWh design capacity low: 0 mWh capacity granularity 1: 0 mWh capacity granularity 2: 0 mWh model number: serial number: battery type: OEM info: Judging from the entries in /var/log/messages the Dell ACPI BIOS appears to be ok. At least it says 'ACPI BIOS passes blacklist': Feb 28 11:28:48 ef kernel: ACPI: RSDP (v000 DELL ) @ 0x000fde50 Feb 28 11:28:48 ef kernel: ACPI: RSDT (v001 DELLCPi R 10194.02588) @ 0x000fde64 Feb 28 11:28:48 ef kernel: ACPI: FADT (v001 DELLCPi R 10194.02588) @ 0x000fde90 Feb 28 11:28:48 ef kernel: ACPI: DSDT (v001 INT430 SYSFexxx 0.04097) @ 0x Feb 28 11:28:48 ef kernel: ACPI: BIOS passes blacklist Feb 28 11:28:48 ef kernel: ACPI: MADT not present Feb 28 11:28:48 ef kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. Can the broken APIC have anything to do with it? Should I report these problems 'upstream'?
Re: [Cooker] VMWare /usr/src/linux/include for 9.1
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 01:39, Trevor Rhodes wrote: Hello All, I've asked this on two other lists, but as I am in desperate need (must get it working tonight) I'll ask here too. I'm trying to install VMWare into 9.1 and am having trouble finding the correct directory. Where is the directory for the header files? Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.1 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951, Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === 19:37:42 up 1:07, 4 users, load average: 1.47, 1.15, 1.08 Hi Trevor, I am running VMWare with 9.1. It's generally /usr/src/linux where linux is a symlink to your kernel sources. If it's not there, your kernel sources are not installed and you'll need to install them. Cheers, -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] Am I the only emacs user running cooker?
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 08:19, Denis Pelletier wrote: Hi, Like I said, am I the only emacs user running cooker? Since updating my laptop from 9.0 to cooker two weeks ago I can't run emacs. I filled a bug report but no one reacted: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2413 Anyone able to run emacs? [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpel]$ emacs Warning: arch-dependent data dir (/usr/lib/emacs/21.2/i386-mandrake-linux/) does not exist. Warning: Lisp directory `/usr/share/emacs/21.2/site-lisp' does not exist. Cannot open load file: fontset I use emacs all the time with no probs. -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 2446] [audacity] unable to rebuild rpm libmadsymbol detection failure
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 09:35, Pascal Cavy wrote: I am lost here, I can only compile audacity on one cooker machine. On the other 2 I got problems. On one of the bad machine I noticed that I have: # g++ -v Using built-in specs. Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --with-slibdir=/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --enable-long-long --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,f77,objc,java --host=i586-mandrake-linux-gnu --with-system-zlib Thread model: posix gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-4mdk) but on the correct one I have: # g++ -v Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2.2/specs Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --with-slibdir=/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --enable-long-long --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,f77,objc,java --host=i586-mandrake-linux-gnu --with-system-zlib Thread model: posix gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-2mdk) I have the same rpms installed concerning compilers and libs, I dont figure out where I have to look for this difference ! Anyone have a clue ? It looks like you have different versions of gcc on each machine. 3.2-4mdk on the first and 3.2.2-2mdk on the second going by the last line of your output above. Jason
Re: [Cooker] apache2+mod_mono?
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 16:04, Oden Eriksson wrote: Hi. Is this interesting at all? Or is it mission impossible (licensing issues...)? http://www.apacheworld.org/modmono/ Here's the short of it on the licensing from go-mono.com The C# Compiler is released under the terms of the GNU GPL. The runtime libraries are under the GNU Library GPL. And the class libraries are released under the terms of the MIT X11 license. Looks pretty interesting to me. I have followed this project a little. An open source *nix version of the .Net platform would help me out quite a bit. -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
[Cooker] (Postfix bug?!) List moderators please read
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Postfix seems to have a bug in the resolver that I cannot post to mandrake list using new IP#'s, postfix on your end is saying that my hostname is not found - when indeed your nameserver and dig say it is! I had this same problem at my house with our new IP#'s, everything on that system (dig, host, nslookup, ipopd, sshd, etc..) can all resolve the name from IP, however postfix cannot! - [EMAIL PROTECTED] junfan]# mailq - -Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient--- 746913B06 1223 Mon Feb 24 16:34:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (host smtp1.mandrax.org[63.209.80.242] said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [64.186.37.76] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- 1 Kbytes in 1 Request. [EMAIL PROTECTED] junfan]# dig @smtp1.mandrax.org -x 64.186.37.76 ; DiG 9.2.2rc1 @smtp1.mandrax.org -x 64.186.37.76 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 64945 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;76.37.186.64.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 76.37.186.64.in-addr.arpa. 3425 IN PTR 64-186-37-76.nmo.net. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 76.37.186.64.in-addr.arpa. 21425 IN NS ns.nmo.net. 76.37.186.64.in-addr.arpa. 21425 IN NS ns2.nmo.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns.nmo.net. 81610 IN A 12.32.78.202 ns2.nmo.net.81610 IN A 12.32.78.203 ;; Query time: 96 msec ;; SERVER: 63.209.80.242#53(smtp1.mandrax.org) ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 16:37:42 2003 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 144 - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPlqRzhFHZPcobeHxAQK3KgQAsrcfrWZZ+xZWnlWpKxFC6oBT3Eq7uu8s TuZIciTStNeJ2jKQt4bQrhQ4XaImM5bLMCqHBBB/JfFjB3tdB0XNhBYrR/BZaibE YsLcPVlSxUPAmdFudXspZTPgTvMOa4I43tmbthcpEFSe28ga4Lndj/GrSsdPWDzR OWqSWn8flyQ= =CEFA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] ping list (ignore)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Testing to see if postfix resolver at mandrake can resolve my reverse and therefore allow me to post again with new IP/provider, dns zones. postfix won't resolve them here but everything else can. :( -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPlqP9RFHZPcobeHxAQLmfAP+KSgVjmBbQkiVjILKPqCTCYSJNoetZ6CD 7h/fhhrY+j2uFItB4/ryDLzyVwSaaudJylHr7lPJNLFY0nZGRw0Hl2ErBIMuMT0Y 55o2NOrusNKn29DyxKWvQY6Ra1D6C3H9oGo40Y+PjEGTv2owan6jiig+N2zhQwDM wb8zsARRvss= =kVE6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [Bug 1694] [kdebase] Konqueror hangs ejecting CD
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-21 17:40 --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is fixed now - go ahead and close it, and thanks. On Friday 21 February 2003 11:34 am, qa wrote: - -- The police said that driving under the influence of estrogen was a factor in the accident. [Laugh - it's funny] Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPlZWDhFHZPcobeHxAQICngQArrN547Y6pVynIYBhEXVFLM7eLPWs5rpX B07/eNRenFl9TT5I88DVU6ODfP/pQ3X4Tygbf0l5rwUVeP6ECDuifLP+z+Zge3lu MqFwX4adlSU2eDcxEFgzQ0O+8iAF3a1lXhNM2TdpG7rCCV3KLvC7I3chHulWuu/i 0tzVrjo/jXQ= =ZqnF -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Not using supermount: After mounting a CD and copying some files over trying to eject the CD causes kdeinit to run away with CPU and hang. Simple unmount works, with manual eject.
Re: [Cooker] Upgrade from coocker : lost antialiasing under KDE ...
Tulear wrote: I've just upgarde all my package from RC1 to cooker and I've lost antialiasing under KDE freetype2-2.1.3-7mdk freetype-1.3.1-18mdk kdebase-3.1-49mdk I've verified under kdecontrol, antialiasing in on, but all fonts are :-( Do you know the reason ? I am noticing the same thing. After an update of my Cooker about 2 days ago, all the fonts look crappy. Jason Komar Lubetec Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Problems with Evolution 1.2.2
I'm running the latest Cooker. Yesterday Evolution suddenly crashed with the error that the component that handles the mail aspect had quit unexpectedly. When I restart Evolution, it sits there hung up trying to open folder files. When I start it from console, I get the following information: [jason@admin1 jason]$ evolution evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error setting owner on component OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent -- CORBA error evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error changing interactive status of component OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent to TRUE -- IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 When I close it, I get this additional information in the console: evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error changing interactive status of component OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent to FALSE -- IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 Waiting for component to die -- OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_ShellComponent (1) [jason@admin1 jason]$ Anyone have any thoughts or ideas? Looks to me like a possible problem with oafd. Thanks, Jason Komar Lubetec Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] [Bug 1963] [evolution] New: Problems with running Evolution 1.2.2
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1963 Product: evolution Component: evolution Summary: Problems with running Evolution 1.2.2 Version: 1.2.2-1mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm running the latest Cooker. Yesterday Evolution suddenly crashed with the error that the component that handles the mail aspect had quit unexpectedly. When I restart Evolution now, it sits there hung up trying to open folder files. When I start it from console, I get the following information: jason@admin1 jason]$ evolution evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error setting owner on component OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent -- CORBA error evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error changing interactive status of component OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent to TRUE -- IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 When I close it, I get this additional information in the console: evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error changing interactive status of component OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent to FALSE -- IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 Waiting for component to die -- OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_ShellComponent (1) [jason@admin1 jason]$ Thanks, Jason Komar Lubetec Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 1126] [initscripts] Update of X yesterday (Jan 27) caused runlevel to change from 5 to 3 in inittab
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1126 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-20 18:59 --- Seems to be fixed in later versions. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: I updated X yesterday (to ver. 4.2.99.5-0.20030127.1mdk (not sure if any other packages were updated at the same time or not). The update changed the runlevel in inittab from 5 to 3.
[Cooker] rsync errors (sunsite.uio.no)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Apparently there's a perms problem on the mirror? receiving file list ... opendir(doc): Permission denied 4310 files to consider IO error encountered - skipping file deletion - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPlJFnBFHZPcobeHxAQLOfQQAny5LV/gBCL1TOvY1o1MJubdWIJtOYjR4 NVVCGasMDBCyTnUCEuGe2DBJr14jvKMF9DNcgRudoNsLfGH78j1iSXcuVn8WW1JU R40fEe6GfHCz3MPtuQ1v9Tm/DbkdKOsp5gdUQwegVOwLZVC7g4QHm7LjTo7VcGSU q+FNa0oqo3A= =JUyW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mysql gui / frontend
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sure there is - php and apache ;) On Monday 17 February 2003 06:09 pm, J. Greenlees wrote: Mandrake? they are lgpl so I doubt it is a licensing concern. ran into a shopkeeper that is using Mandrake 9 and he was complaining that there wasn't a gui / frontend for Mysql. I checked thier site and found two versions, on not being developed in favour of the other. if no-one knows why they haven't been packaged, I'll have to learn how to build rpms, then upload the srpm to contrib. ( testing the option being developed [ well actually compiling it to verify the functionality ] right now ) Jaqui --- ***Protect your PC from local E-Mail Application security holes*** ***Maintain your Privacy - Passport Free*** ***Anti SPAM Whitelist feature*** http://www.x-mail.net Web Based E-Mail, accessible anywhere Voice Messages, Voice Calls, Live Chat, X-Mail Messenger, Personal Web Hosting, 128 bit SSL Secure, Calendar, Bookmarks, Forwarding, Virtual Mail Map Aliasing X-Mail Premium: 20MB Messages, 100MB Storage, POP3, Ad Free - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPlGFXRFHZPcobeHxAQKj0gQAh6YYSkP37yMdDsJ/0oskrhQXKOVSCiKE +3yzSy2l0I36EzLnTzSa0q2vs5dfNzKWv2m9Bfev0EiJvwhwOhEBwQiMT9Kk3Aq7 YD7BfNHRX6Rg7LNmunwn0jDFoPCfiXOkD7mAN8gDSsOcyhrSHQFdCvhaHhbnJtGD fWCbpCqgn1A= =en/N -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [Bug 1694] [kdebase] New: Konqueror hangs ejecting CD
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694 Product: kdebase Component: kdebase Summary: Konqueror hangs ejecting CD Version: 3.1-30mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not using supermount: After mounting a CD and copying some files over trying to eject the CD causes kdeinit to run away with CPU and hang. Simple unmount works, with manual eject. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 1703] [kdebase] Request for Enhancement...
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-16 20:20 --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I normally just commend out the line to run kdesktop-links in /usr/bin/startkde all-together. On Sunday 16 February 2003 12:00 pm, zex0s wrote: - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPk/i9hFHZPcobeHxAQIa0wQAr/wE7+kjCzuYWeTqXAHfESa8/LAPagfZ KGUhEg8Xd7Eu4vpQqwSGPfKf/L+v+PtYzeAkrf/ISbbN/Vt9ozTJenPg9bjAk17I tZ+sHa4C+J+hyV0d94m0YTKm/61M9g6RbvLhk9DiKknmmmg5FVXjFIgkFaJcifMG 8jqFcRFT5Ao= =2nM1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: I propose that the /usr/bin/desktop-links script check for a ~/Desktop/.noremovablemedia file and if it's there remove the Removable Media folder from the desktop, and prevent the creation of a new one. Many of us do not like when scripts re-create things we remove on purpose. I could probably modify the current script myself and re-submit it, if need be. Just say the word.
[Cooker] gnomemeeting sound problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seems no matter what I do gnomemeeting wont allow audio. Tried soundwrapper, suspending and even killing arts, running as root. No dice on any. As this is the first time I've tried to use it, is this a bug or some other issue? The gnomemeeting.org is down apparently. :( - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPlAw9BFHZPcobeHxAQK07AP9G9EgFwzxdJm0tnZ4kLx/h5RyFDnEZjVs Cc5ZqXfaPHTRGYZ6x2JaCZe4uqSfCUvWxCVnGpyWzAFSI63u6HRlDoV/iNNt766v LTGRoyd/etXsamyHnwiTK9WF9m2DgZPnhjVj0fIleyxAx9896hXlNC4FzltFvym9 v5Sem05liFQ= =qQ2f -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [Bug 1445] [rpmdrake] rpmdrake cpu loop afet selecting package to install
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1445 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-15 15:38 --- This also happens when just selecting packages. I only needed to select 2 packages, when selecting the second package to install it went out of control. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: start rpmdrake select new or updated package listing select one package which has dependency click ok on dependency warning window *** rpmdrake is now looping and takes 100% cpu
Re: [Cooker] update script
skidley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm trying to come up with a simple script to update my system(cooker)
as a cron job. I've tried a few variations without success. I assumed
a
couple of options for urpmi would work, for eg.
urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto --force --auto-select
I assumed from reading the manpage that --auto would skip the
dependencies
question and it does but i also thought --force would automatically
answer yes to any questions. one in particular a question about bad
signatures which i always get, and --force doesn't make it just say
yes and
continue. I have also tried echo y |urpmi --force --auto --auto-select
without success. I wonder if anybody has a nice working update script?
/etc/cron.daily/urpmi:
===
#!/bin/sh
urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm
for d in /usr/lib/{kde,kde3,qt3/lib}; do
[[ -d $d ]] find $d -type f -name *.so* | xargs strip -sp
done
strip -sp
/usr/lib/{kicker,kde*,konsole,kwin,lib{DCOP,kabc,kate,konq,mcop,kde*,arts*,khtml,kio}}.so.*
#export RPM_BUILD_ROOT=/opt
#/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-shared
#/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-comment-note
#/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip
rpm --rebuilddb
===
I tried your above script Thierry and it worked great up until it started the strip.
At that point my desktop blanked except for the background and after a while, I was
logged out of KDE. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks,
--
Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lubetec
[Cooker] ethereal un-resizeable columns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is everyone experiencing this? I'm not able to resize the columns for ethereal so I can see src/dst, etc... It's quite useless in it's current state. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPkpyChFHZPcobeHxAQIDmgQAq5gWsbbBpzaaKlkws6QrZFOiWO9YeEIq 8zO225Ntr3Xl6K9UQdjDm543Sn/XIDoJ4yBeNxmtUC1ddNcK797oE81cCkivaxHi 8fS0MxEthGzeDTwr/+Z71S+HqbAK31onZSwiCekCsFZ48oUNFiHnsnEBfcLV6XVK ZZ4vO9YZqKA= =7S6j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] /etc/hosts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 February 2003 06:00 am, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Hi folks, Something I've been wanting to ask for a long time but keep forgetting (until now): Whenever I do an upgrade/reinstall of Mandrake, my /etc/hosts is reset to just the line for localhost.localdomain . Because I've named my machine something other than localhost this leads to all kinds of problems with proftpd and GNOME. The solution is fairly simple, just add a line to the hosts file with my machine name in it and it works. But for unexperienced users this could be a big hurdle. Is this behaviour of the installer a bug or a feature? Eager for your comments, I used to do that, then when I got a laptop and went from having my ethernet dev up to having my wireless dev up and eth down there would be problems because they were different IP#'s, so here's what I've done for this purpose. [junfan@kato junfan]$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 kato.jeetkunedomaster.net kato localhost.localdomain localhost put the fqdn hostname and hostname on the same line with localhost stuff so it always uses loopback. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPkjk+RFHZPcobeHxAQJ1EgQAl+a0QNoNOMX3UF4wdZRKJdd+hKVdvYEA 6htc6XxIWETZ6jctN2FGZQTiWxL47b3OGfhq1rOTALaiDkzTJ9EWy6RAsQ+NfkjB rKpzkpvjWX7uLmYfKtXumpblkr+J09ybOEPl2mRIsueroSJ+iPls1iffCvKlIcoH DG64x9Tl9a0= =ZJi6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] A new Mandrake Baby!
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 01:16, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: I'm now a new daddy.. it's a girl, Gabrielle. See all the pictures at http://www.advx.org/baby Name: Gabrielle Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.0 Vendor: Similac Advance with iron Release : 1mdkBuild Date: wed 22 jan 2003 10:39:00 EST Install date: (just installed) Build Host: CHUS.qc.ca Group : System/Diapers Source RPM: parents-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm Size: 53.5cm, 4.170kg License: GPL Packager: Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.advx.org/baby Summary : A new Mandrake baby Description : Little Gabrielle Dault-Deblois was born January 22nd 2003 at 10:39 am at the Sherbrooke University Hospital Center (CHUS). At 9 pounds 3 ounces (4.170kg), 21 inches (53.5cm), that's not what I call little ;-) Congratulations and all the best! -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] tetex packaging error?
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:11, Steve Fox wrote: Doing 'urpmi --auto-select' today and got this: 12:tetex #error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/config;3e42c012: cpio: open failed - Not a directory I get the same thing. Cheers, -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
Re: [Cooker] tetex packaging error?
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:28, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Komar wrote on Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:14:49PM -0700 : 12:tetex #error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/config;3e42c012: cpio: open failed - Not a directory I get the same thing. Which version do you have. a tetex rpm came out two days in a row, spaced very closely to each other and you might have hit the server in the middle of an rsync. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+QsV3lp7v05cW2woRAgfJAJ4rAEz1nROcE7k+znGGe2oCotzwEACeN/3c aOivemoYRKerkSwM/glp9fo= =vgGf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Hi Todd, I have 2.0-2mdk updating to 2.0-4mdk. I think I've seen an answer down the list. Thanks, -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
[Cooker] [mdkkdm-9.1-7mdk] 1 Bug and suggestion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Firstly there are some characters on the user selection when using show users Reboot Login I think was the order Secondly - perhaps a Other button or something on the user selection for when one needs to select a user that isn't in the list - or even a hit esc to have it go to no show user type login? I would put at least something to correspond with each setting in kcontrol so as not to confuse users (maybe this is the goal?), put some type of clock and or icon, etc, so it doesn't seem like a non working feature. Is there any reason that you have chosen to not allow direct typing of a username/password when user display is turned on in login? 2 of the features I like most with kdm - being able to type in any user, and having it auto select the last user that logged in. It's nice when I reboot my laptop to only need to give my password and have it load the desktop. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPj/wZhFHZPcobeHxAQJMMQP8CR4FY0IPn+sr16uZUxjDmBFgml1L0iK8 VS4Ht5hMo10MAyMsHo0ZZ3+ZbZbdZ9ErkX4shZDtYmRcrySQoGtHFEV+v8TWGpPl UBeMP5eoVVMow9zsEUxGhPCulQlKAZsh/MUlUGvTjYzTYE7OSg36nhpYHVOIlbQg vw810uBZplg= =5o3s -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mdkkdm-9.1-1mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 06:55 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Laurent MONTEL wrote: --=-=-= Name: mdkkdm Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 9.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Mon Feb 3 11:53:49 2003 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group : System/Configuration/Other Source RPM: (none) Size: 545101 License: GPL Packager: Montel Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.mandrakelinux.com/ Summary : Mdk kdm. Description : Mdk kdm. --=-=-= * Mon Feb 03 2003 Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9.1-1mdk - initial package Does this mean we get normal kdm back? If so, thanks! Buchan Yes it does! and Laurent - THANK YOU! - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPj5n1RFHZPcobeHxAQLQZwP+MsC8J1rPDxCMTBcFM+h5xlR8S2n1HFlC GWTIGEnOIDdrHcOt9u3QUOH3qm6uhp+fPgbLbRWwPMCA3sADZsvF6TDMnP61nIpY 8gH3yj5oNPrSBdH9uKJkUl8CwmAoG8UZCQWT1K0vGd0X1cIHl1lkuMRqk2n9M5QV o7v16uOIk1Q= =gLnz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] mdkkdm - project goals? (So we can help)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now that I feel mandrake has done the politically correct thing by not taking away our choice, I'd like to know more about mdkkdm and what it's plans are? One suggestion, move it to another name so it can be installed alongside kdebase-kdm, so those of us who want to help can flip back and forth as we play ;) I take it due to it's initial replacement of kdm that it's supposed to be a 100% compatible drop in for kdm, is it meant to have perfect function match eventually? I mean will all features in the kcontrol panel eventually reflect settings to mdkkdm? What is the whole reason behind mdkkdm? Just branding or is there some goal to new added functionality that's being worked on? In the past I've seen mdk changes that were not liked at first, I remember some rpmdrake things that really pissed people off, but mdk came through with a very nice rpmdrake. I trust that will happen with mdkkdm as well, but I'm glad the choice isn't taken away from us now to use what we want to use. I think kde's kdm is really nice, couldn't the kdm that's already there just have some branding added to it by mdk without redoing the layout and functions? I still think it should be a separate package however even in that case. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPj5/ChFHZPcobeHxAQLw0wP/Uh5U1KshwWEoBt9OZL+lr9doUohH2RNd DV1QWxJD2loCn3q2Rr4/avpuWr95Of27IyDfmGa1WlT5qzoGKj0TjbL56Xs4hi5U 7bgRqK5k/yGgvSMsakVIfRgVa1im07F8UPI+he9pwpuk9D5O3ZsDpBBwx/4Z6rJv wkI51G2/mWc= =kmwI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] DM related question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You have to install kdebase-kdm On Monday 03 February 2003 10:50 am, Paul Misner wrote: When the updated, and much attacked KDM login screen was released several days ago, I changed my login manager to GDM, by altering the /etc/sysconfig/desktop file to say DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm. This worked fine. Now that it sppears the original version of KDM has been restored, I wanted to change back. I changed my /etc/sysconfig/desktop file back to DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm. I am still getting GDM, not KDM, when I log in. My question: Why did changing the desktop file back to KDM not make the system use KDM for the login manager? Thanks in advance. Paul Misner - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPj6R6hFHZPcobeHxAQKJyQP+MZLikjfVhl5oxKFZSUAyG5kQoATlr77k lh5u/3j4x1w8Bg6iv3tGXTaOhDPZxKBwZgdmtiOKGRp3+1xsHngsWNMYgPA71qDS hyJGF1DQi78o94+70YIeUxRdstwvJwFJvq/yhqTQgcOgncThvuLBWUR4FeEWJnEs bgCfGTX3rDc= =o0uU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] mdkkdm - project goals? (So we can help)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 10:00 pm, Ben Reser wrote: I think the whole thing is laughable. Mandrake whines about not having enough money to support their developers. But then goes and redevelopes the proverbial wheel. There are tons of things that have received far more complaints in reviews. Far more innovating things Laurent could be doing with his time, than simply rewriting a DM. I agree, I could see if it were somehow going to add functionality, but I really don't see the value in branding a login. It's rarely seen, and the only people who are going to see it are those who buy the product. Brand the customers, so other people can see. Give away free Tee's! hehe - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPj8wZxFHZPcobeHxAQL0qwQAnG4822XB6W75VMwCQPH/vwwoiNX6ShP2 hhrCyQmG0SPYRDU8fe8+fXFMBjI0Tyihz95ZE4VOoJ07GlrBsuRfZfbgnMHKm3la enC0e+CIhhYNTafhESgxQ73iuioGF8rNKygyP/79Th3Bmrvj630hd5I38L+CPrKp ty3L37ZfoY8= =UzSp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] coreutils - no man files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did manfiles for coreutils (test) get moved to another package? I can't find them. [junfan@kato junfan]$ man test No manual entry for test - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPj2MZxFHZPcobeHxAQIPoAP+JoLXrOg/7iBxYjUYdGlAdQgvUAYgPLqm aEGLCbyy67HmtmrQzkxQY9HRJA5FP1LpCLJgUxJbxnab3qz0EKfqGpRVA2VjRrU7 FUmqGLX2k+wUourOb6hba/CdU0qutS8lBUOAfJaJYinllpKqaT3++wOnfp+HbGpi 8ox/5C17fVo= =x4rP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [OT] Goodbye, Columbia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 February 2003 11:48 am, J. Greenlees wrote: Leon Brooks wrote: Space Shuttle Columbia disintegrated over Texas during re-entry (200,000ft), lots of links at http://news.google.com/ Interesting that the news is out _before_ the shuttle was due to land. Astronauts almost certainly all dead. That'll knacker NASA for a while too, but maybe they'll try more imaginative launch vehicles now. maybe they'll get rid of legacy tech and go state of the art in design? naw, NASA turned that down when starting the shuttle program, couldn't wait for a design that would be able to use any international airport. they won't change the attitude now, not after investing 30 years into the things More imaginative, and high tech would introduce more problems. The reason they go with legacy equipment is because it's time tested, and works under extreme conditions that have less failure rate. It's more likely that the parts of the shuttle that are more high tech could have caused this. Computer fail a lot more than wires, levers, and other mechanical controls. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjwQKRFHZPcobeHxAQJ47wP/f/tWCDN67H/WFDEtl1pQlEPFFUxTHbp3 VbPKyphLYruH8n5DMdQ89yxK6j+d5z+67d621H/25ETamtfeNTC7CXqBBcBLmxmO RahHSWBvfHRDrJ8NCYAx+rL2cXzjfU/E5GtVw0U12P8ZHnzmxUxJrS27JfA8yhl7 lW/+8TRDJcw= =sH6Q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [OT] Goodbye, Columbia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 February 2003 03:02 pm, Chuck Shirley wrote: Not to sound like an ass, (Though I know that's how most will take it) The Columbia is a nearly thirty year old example of a forty year old design. For an aircraft that has flown in the most imagineably extreme conditions, it is a wonder it lasted as long as it did. The real tragedy is what will happen to the Space Program in the United States. The human loss is unfortunate, but not a single astronaught or cosmonaught has ever had any misconception that their job was a safe one, much along the lines of Firefighters and Policemen, not to mention Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines. There will never be a shortage of people who are willing to do such dangerous work, but it is the rest of the people, the cowards, the lily-livers, and the bleeding-hearts that will do all of the crying about the great human tragedy. And they will balk at funding such dangerous activity regardless of the potential benefit to science, and humanity. THat's the real tragedy. --Chuck S. I agree. No matter what humankind does there will be losses, it doesn't mean we should stop doing what we do. It is a miracle that the shuttle lasted as long as it did. I know they go over these with a fine tooth comb, but if I had my guess they underestimated the damage done to the wing. Take a craft that has seen as much use at the Columbia under such extreme condidions, who knows what fatigue has been placed on the framework of the craft, under normal conditions might not be a problem. Add the extra turbulance and heat mixture of losing some of the shielding on the wing might have caused a chain reaction that lead to the loss of a lot more shielding, possibly toward the landing gear area which may explain the tire pressure oddities they were talking about. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjwt3RFHZPcobeHxAQIzZQP/UCnGFRiZM5WGmNVvyAIpf6OaoHBtEkCs /vfmCVTUDMBhAIGzU5DoFj28LAw7mQiLm3+X7UpmMhbDhQDSd3a25fm2LUVAZAqN jp2MNKL3Om7I+kBP+NmXvkPICAMyo69YgceHK3W/wOSeNxmHSlYkZdP/xDp1uP56 wW4CxJEHwYk= =enwG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] kdm ( my 2 cents )
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can we at least have the old kdm as /usr/bin/kdm.doesnt_suck or something. What was the point of replacing something that worked with something that has less features? I no longer have focus last user, no clock, no user selection, and it's automatic action when I hit enter was to reboot my computer. What was the point of this really? To be more like redhat? Please at least put the real kdm back as an alternate so I can actually control my login manager with kcontrol. Truely lame. It may seem small, but sensless stuff like this that takes away from the total experience is what could pursuade me to try another distro. This is nothing less than annoying. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjqNIBFHZPcobeHxAQIsRwP/WL3uoRkxeNgrP0qBb+j1Jpkx/jG0vV1/ n2NLzT3mqWHV1q2RI6Hr83rhO/lGmuE2jEIUTq2ZCjnEds3RBtOyPirra9GUwNxg T2MDsX7ub5TYBzqldtk0yi0czPYKrEsHIZF6NWZfdw84eUDBWF/ftc2ONQ2Xp/bX vUWmqEQPAp0= =SMrg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] kdm ( my 2 cents )
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, I would have no problem with mandrake making their own dm calling it mdkdm or mdm or whatever, but kdm on my machine right now is not kdm, I want kdm to be kdm not someone's replacement of it. I like the features that kdm had, and personally I'd like them back. gdm is now it's own package, why not have mdm be another and leave kde alone, let it be kde. On Friday 31 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Jason Straight wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can we at least have the old kdm as /usr/bin/kdm.doesnt_suck or something. What was the point of replacing something that worked with something that has less features? I no longer have focus last user, no clock, no user selection, and it's automatic action when I hit enter was to reboot my computer. Some more issues: -Password field doesn't select the existing password when you use TAB if you entered the wrong password the first time (kdm did). -Valid is a really bad word to use in place of OK (win2k) or Go! (normal kdm). But the new lilo splash does look quite good. What was the point of this really? To be more like redhat? If anything, work on kdm should be to make it compatible with gdm and have the same features, so we can launch a new kdm greeter from within a running wm (like gdm can). Please rather add features to the existing kdm than stuff it up. Regards, Buchan - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjqkVhFHZPcobeHxAQJ8ygP+NOu/xQwj8pZ4XRYXVD5XU9v70dzTp57d Ob4tY6z686KKdNehF8+nrPDSbuyQxk5r3SxECJtSz9a1SGhGnwNsnt9wDtvu+58m D9MQOK2dhmHMvttVXqmQJhu6US3rQ4huN3dKGbKnObXQZJE9YnZLNKnigi3yUu1F xxShtrCOtok= =5tWX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Horribly slow install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The ftp server? On Friday 31 January 2003 02:33 pm, Robert Fox wrote: Since the last three DrakX changes, I've experience a very strange phenomenon. I install using the pcmcia.img boot disk and use an ftp host with the latest Cooker on it. During the package install - the system appears to freeze at about 10 seconds left - but if I wait long enough (8 minutes?) - the install continues. From this point forward - every step is painfully SLOW. There is no indication what could be causing this. I have experienced this on an Expert Update and Expert Install. Thx, R.Fox - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjrUmxFHZPcobeHxAQIJuQP+Mu8jCxuzAydXXSOwsNnoppXhB2p9i9H6 HDQ4cCZPKd9kMA4sAjFIMQzb0IeR/zlh3QdNxEU3P15nWpxg+qn1/OwwoCdegw9H ojBXgcA0aYo6SF4f1HGz97g3XdpBI1masfqPNuN+9UCL2c573BnYbAVf6XLOVbUe sur3fcyh+08= =oOnr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [kdebase] plz make standard kdm an alternative
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please at least make the standard kdm_greet an alternative updatable with update-alternatives, so those of us who like kde the way it is don't have to compile it ourselves. I don't see any good reason it can't be done this way. I actually don't see any good reason not to use standard kdm so all the features work. What was the purpose for kdm change? - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjsGSxFHZPcobeHxAQLGwQP9HCEK8p/JuaSkQDgJRtK8bUi1wU38eAgm v9WLgUKY4qhR/35+ripURSH3gBbOhPjPFxHBL994sjGNtllGfBoiIr7OkO5+vfl4 dAlU64fnilfimJ/c/hJTZFESUElBaTsHEGMcwKnSPA/sleyCDLcjx26FVXax5HRW qx+c8erT8ao= =Hav2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 08:17 pm, orville wrote: Yes kdm is a part of KDE and guess what. THEY CHANGED IT NOT MANDRAKE! So live with it. I compiled a couple of the release candidates, betas, and even alpha's and this change was made from early on. If you'd chosen to compile it earlier you wouldn't been able to provide some input. But yah didn't no one complained and it's here to stay. Have a nice day :-D So kde changed it in after the release went final? And totally broke it's usefulness and compatability with kcontrol? All those nice features that are implied in kcontrol now do nothing. How was it that in the first final kdebase 3.1 that it didn't have this nasty kdm_greet? - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjsl9RFHZPcobeHxAQIE3gP/fZJnF8nVjaZSFHIiGVp/oPZCxizrFuzC b3n2VhjR2YNUbWXqJPyLKsB/XSywyBxbDHQa03UgrmSvbtF4L7ktOmwY4pTeoSGl Ksq0/6/vDL+JHmBVc3bKPO0jkJNCu3MC8XscH4GYTAj6pBXXlXw/XrfTSLvqvsYl b3EKrBZu1vA= =jXZ2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 January 2003 08:37 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: KDM branding can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake star logo. No change needs to be made to KDM itself. However, a login screen will not make me change distros, but it may cause me to change login managers - but that is why I like Linux, if I don't like some design decision, I can always make a change myself. Except you lose functinality by using another dm, when you logout of kde you can't chose to shutdown or reboot immediately, which isn't really a big deal, but a nice one. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjsmaBFHZPcobeHxAQKCfAQAunZZvqzeoJJszHm/hxrOP2bgevmlWmO2 LXBpI3xljSwD5hkVOW+lHIVfQAAfdClhmefP0/RJHsWkLtIBWGca+al2mxAPpsle fgKQlYBD2P5cKc5EQ6l2y31nAKF4gbbgrxgS+eJGde2Xv44M1t9Dpk117GIJMxUS Zi7R0vrlnR4= =NZ0G -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 January 2003 08:13 pm, Shift wrote: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to be worst than RedHat who patch KDE ? Everybody has said that RedHat had a bad attitude and they had lost lot's of users. You are making the same but your changes are MUCH MORE VISIBLE and the Linux web sites will not take much time to make a bad review of the NEW FUCKINg feature I just want to upgrade my MandrakeClub level to help you but if you continue in this direction I won't and I will just let MandrakeSoft die. So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! Shift PS : Or create your own DM but don't touch to kdm. Kdm is part of KDE !! Hehe, thanks for having the balls to say it the way I wanted to. I have no problem with mandrake having their own login manager, I don't even care if it's default if that's the way they want to go, but I have to admit that this type of move with actually replacing the KDE standard and not having it available got me started on my debian download tonight after 4 years of running nothing but mandrake. I think they should just make a separate login manager in it's own package like gdm, call it mdm, and setup /etc/sysconfig/desktop with =mdm - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjslLhFHZPcobeHxAQIcWAQAtt7cQKf6t7iqxQBaEZYFS1WWqa45TyDr XmrvQYHHjSknyfvTSV3EKCVScDRPtIL5mtFmOWhIh6LHI97oSsUY+1Yly/qTQG8P 8PeCAQu4IYVKw6IQ5o5uyt2cR85juxxDZJSIqUXOmPdtgMDmwjM5OrVIgMCFiiqU JQEVZwQsmWE= =PBRn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] icons/default/index.theme missing
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 18:37, Adam Williamson wrote: How do you mean, temporary workaround? This isn't a bug, it's a design choice. The reversion to old cursors is mentioned in the changelog of the latest X as something MDK have decided to do. Workaround: Meaning a temporary kluge (clumsy or inelegant solution to some problem) used to bypass, mask or otherwise avoid a misfeature in some system. IMO having to create a defaults file is not my idea of an elegant solution to turn on different cursor styles should someone want them. -- Jason Komar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lubetec
