[Cooker] [Bug 2130] [Installation] install on laptop compaq presario 915 EA

2003-10-03 Thread [rosselli]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130





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No activity has been seen on this bug since 20030222 and it is still in UNCONFIRMED 
state. This probably means that the information provided was not clear enough, or
that the bug is not valid anymore. Please test and confirm that this bug is still 
valid with the latest cooker version, or close it.


--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-10 16:22 ---
When trying to install Mandrake Linux 9.2 on a Compaq Presario 900 laptop, the
installation process comes to a quick halt before it has a chance to arrive to
the graphical installer. This is the error:

Please wait ... Enabling PCMCIA extension cards...

Bank 3: b400083b at 0001fc0003c8
Kernel panic: Unable to continue

Unfortunately not even the 'linux nomce' command line seems to solve (at least
temporarily) the problem, as the laptop hangs as it reaches the in second stage
install step.

Only disabling automatic hardware recognition with 'linux noauto' allows to
start installing the system using DrakX.



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Bonjour 

la 9.1 béta 3 crashait à l'installation  sur un portable Compaq présario 915 
EA, l'astuce etait de lancer une install par la commande linux nomce , cette 
astuce ne marche plus sur la Mandrake 9.1 RC1 , résultat : plantage a 
l'installation (lenteur sur le probing serial port, ensuite  missing 
file , ...)

merci



[Cooker] [Bug 2203] [Installation] Sound chip identified but not correctly installed on Acer laptop

2003-09-16 Thread [rosselli]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2203


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-16-09 11:30 ---
Hi Thierry,
I missed your request, sorry. The bug is still there (as of 9.2 RC2). Here is
the output of lspcidrake -v:

unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M1621 [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:10b9
device:1621)
unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5247 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:10b9
device:5247)
trident : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5451 PCI South Bridge Audio
[MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:10b9 device:5451 subv:1025 subd:1010)
unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin
IV] [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:10b9 device:1533 subv:1025 subd:1010)
eepro100: Intel Corporation|82559 [Ethernet Pro 100] [NETWORK_ETHERNET]
(vendor:8086 device:1229 subv:1025 subd:1010)
unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5229 IDE [STORAGE_IDE]
(vendor:10b9 device:5229 subv:1025 subd:1010)
unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M7101 PMU [BRIDGE_OTHER]
(vendor:10b9 device:7101 subv:1025 subd:1010)
yenta_socket: O2 Micro, Inc.|OZ6933 Cardbus Controller [BRIDGE_CARDBUS]
(vendor:1217 device:6933 subv:0001 subd:)
yenta_socket: O2 Micro, Inc.|OZ6933 Cardbus Controller [BRIDGE_CARDBUS]
(vendor:1217 device:6933 subv:0001 subd:)
usb-ohci: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5237 (USB) [SERIAL_USB]
(vendor:10b9 device:5237 subv:1025 subd:1010)
Card:ATI Rage Mobility: ATI|Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:1002
device:4c4d subv:1025 subd:1010)
unknown : Unknown|USB OHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:)

The snd-ali5451 ALSA driver works fine, as usual. BTW, I hope you will make it
wrt to ML 9.2 final, because after I installed ML 9.2 RC2 I was greeted by a
*terrible* screeching sound due to the wrong module being used.

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On my Acer Travelmate 521 TE the sound chip (Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali
5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version 0.14.10h according to dmesg) seems to
be correctly identified at installation time, but the relative module fails at
boot time: insmod failed.

Syslog says:

kernel: Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali 5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version
0.14.10h
kernel: PCI: Guessed IRQ 10 for device 00:06.0
kernel: trident: ALi Audio Accelerator found at IO 0x 9000, IRQ 10
kernel: ALi 5451 did not come out of reset
kernel: trident_ac97_init: error resetting 5451
modprobe: Hint: [usual message about insmod errors]
modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz:
init_module: No such device
modprobe: modprobe: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz failed

Note: always installed with no problems using Mandrake Linux 8.1, 8.2, 9.0.



[Cooker] [Bug 2273] [linuxconf] linuxconf fails to start on mdk-9.1rc1

2003-03-15 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2273





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I can reproduce this under RC2, both as a normal user and as root. Same message
as the original poster reported. IMPORTANT: this bug affects linuxconf only when
launched from a shell, selecting the Linuxconf entry from the Mandrake menu
works perfectly.



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Start linuxconf from a terminal. It gives this error message: 
 
Error message from remadmin :Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server 
Error message from remadmin :Xlib: No protocol specified 
Error message from remadmin : 
Error message from remadmin : 
Error message from remadmin :Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 
 
 
and stays hung until interrupted by ctrl-C.



[Cooker] [Bug 2457] [nautilus] Package installation slows down X and Nautilus

2003-03-13 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2457





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-13 16:32 ---
Tried after updating to RC2, most definitely the problem is still there :(



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Installation of packages in ML 9.1 RC1 almost freezes X and some applications
(namely Nautilus and gnome-terminal). When I install an RPM package using one of
these methods

* urpmi
* rpmdrake
* software manager from Nautilus
* gnorpm
* simple rpm -Uvh [package]

the cpu load quickly reaches 99-100%. Note that it's not all taken from X
window, but by a combination of three apss: X, Nautilus and Gnome-terminal. As a
side effect, the trasparency effect in gnome-terminal leads to weird effects on
the background.



[Cooker] [Bug 2203] [Installation] Sound chip identified but not correctly installed on Acer laptop

2003-03-12 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2203





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-12 13:16 ---
Updated to RC2, sound module still not recognized with the same message error as
before.



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On my Acer Travelmate 521 TE the sound chip (Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali
5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version 0.14.10h according to dmesg) seems to
be correctly identified at installation time, but the relative module fails at
boot time: insmod failed.

Syslog says:

kernel: Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali 5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version
0.14.10h
kernel: PCI: Guessed IRQ 10 for device 00:06.0
kernel: trident: ALi Audio Accelerator found at IO 0x 9000, IRQ 10
kernel: ALi 5451 did not come out of reset
kernel: trident_ac97_init: error resetting 5451
modprobe: Hint: [usual message about insmod errors]
modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz:
init_module: No such device
modprobe: modprobe: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz failed

Note: always installed with no problems using Mandrake Linux 8.1, 8.2, 9.0.



[Cooker] [Bug 2673] [mozilla] Mozilla (navigator and/or mail) hangs for no apparent reason

2003-03-10 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2673





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I followed your suggestion, and haven't experienced any further freezes. Mozilla
frequently hogs all CPU use, though. I think you can rule this bug out,
especially if you received no similar reports.



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The current version of Mozilla is very unstable and hangs for no apparent
reason. After reading some mail and doing some web browsing what follows happens:

- CPU usage goes to 99%-100% (a combo of X and Mozilla);
- it is impossible to read mail messages (nothing is displayed) or write new
messages (the write window is opened but it is impossible to write in it);
- browser windows freeze, sometimes with a frozen Loading in the tab label;
- the only way out is to killall mozilla-bin;
- to restart mozilla properly you have to log out and log back in (!!!).

I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but I just can't see what's the cause of
these blocks, they appear at random (sometimes 5 minutes after I started using
M, sometimes 1 hour later).

ML 9.1RC1 updated to latest cooker, Athlon 1.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Radeon video
adapter, 80 MB hd.



[Cooker] [Bug 2673] [mozilla] Mozilla (navigator and/or mail) hangs for no apparent reason

2003-03-07 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2673





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-07 11:43 ---
I updated to the RC2 Mozilla version, and followed your advice to start with a
new .mozilla dir; I also noticed that I was using an Italian pack language and a
theme (grey modern) only fit for Mozilla 1.3a, and removed both, now using
Mozilla as it comes out of the RC2 box. When I thought you were right on the
spot, the freezes started happening again, exactly in the same way (trying to
reply to a mail message) and in some new way (when maximising the message list
to find some message, window flickers and then freezes).

If no other user reported this, most probably it must be a local problem, due to
some quirk in my ML 9.1RC1 installation. I wonder what that could be though ...





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The current version of Mozilla is very unstable and hangs for no apparent
reason. After reading some mail and doing some web browsing what follows happens:

- CPU usage goes to 99%-100% (a combo of X and Mozilla);
- it is impossible to read mail messages (nothing is displayed) or write new
messages (the write window is opened but it is impossible to write in it);
- browser windows freeze, sometimes with a frozen Loading in the tab label;
- the only way out is to killall mozilla-bin;
- to restart mozilla properly you have to log out and log back in (!!!).

I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but I just can't see what's the cause of
these blocks, they appear at random (sometimes 5 minutes after I started using
M, sometimes 1 hour later).

ML 9.1RC1 updated to latest cooker, Athlon 1.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Radeon video
adapter, 80 MB hd.



[Cooker] [Bug 2673] [mozilla] New: Mozilla (navigator and/or mail) hangs for no apparent reason

2003-03-04 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2673

   Product: mozilla
 Component: program
   Summary: Mozilla (navigator and/or mail) hangs for no apparent
reason
   Version: 1.3-0.final.20030228.1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: critical
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The current version of Mozilla is very unstable and hangs for no apparent
reason. After reading some mail and doing some web browsing what follows happens:

- CPU usage goes to 99%-100% (a combo of X and Mozilla);
- it is impossible to read mail messages (nothing is displayed) or write new
messages (the write window is opened but it is impossible to write in it);
- browser windows freeze, sometimes with a frozen Loading in the tab label;
- the only way out is to killall mozilla-bin;
- to restart mozilla properly you have to log out and log back in (!!!).

I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but I just can't see what's the cause of
these blocks, they appear at random (sometimes 5 minutes after I started using
M, sometimes 1 hour later).

ML 9.1RC1 updated to latest cooker, Athlon 1.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Radeon video
adapter, 80 MB hd.



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[Cooker] [Bug 2492] [mdkkdm] New: Improments in mdkkdm user interface

2003-02-27 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2492

   Product: mdkkdm
 Component: libsasl2-plug-ntlm
   Summary: Improments in mdkkdm user interface
   Version: 9.1-20mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The current icons and labels in mdkkdm are not very intuitive, I suggest to
change them as follows:

- Reboot/Halt icons: at the moment they are in the same position as the
Back/Login icons, which could be confusing for the user (suppose you click on
reboot because your misled by its position and think its the back button). They
should be marked both by specific icons and a different positions (perhaps a
combo box with a System label?);

- if you click on either Reboot/Halt the back icon is on the right, while if you
click on an user icon it's on the left: standardize on the left position;

- in theSession type combo box more meaningful labels should be used:

* default - [Default] or [First Time Wizard] if fw hasn't been
  run by the user yet;

* failsafe - [Failsafe] or [something more intuitive]

* use the space below the combo box to supply more info, e.g This is the first
time that you log in your system, so the FTW will be launched, This will
launch the GNOME desktop environment, etc.



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[Cooker] [Bug 2457] [rpm] New: Package installation slows down X and Nautilus

2003-02-26 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2457

   Product: rpm
 Component: rpm
   Summary: Package installation slows down X and Nautilus
   Version: 4.0.4-28mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Installation of packages in ML 9.1 RC1 almost freezes X and some applications
(namely Nautilus and gnome-terminal). When I install an RPM package using one of
these methods

* urpmi
* rpmdrake
* software manager from Nautilus
* gnorpm
* simple rpm -Uvh [package]

the cpu load quickly reaches 99-100%. Note that it's not all taken from X
window, but by a combination of three apss: X, Nautilus and Gnome-terminal. As a
side effect, the trasparency effect in gnome-terminal leads to weird effects on
the background.



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[Cooker] [Bug 2273] [linuxconf] linuxconf fails to start on mdk-9.1rc1

2003-02-25 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2273





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I can confirm this, tried on two different 9.1RC1 installations with the
problems described by Daouda. I can also add that it's been this way since 9.1b1.



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Start linuxconf from a terminal. It gives this error message: 
 
Error message from remadmin :Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server 
Error message from remadmin :Xlib: No protocol specified 
Error message from remadmin : 
Error message from remadmin : 
Error message from remadmin :Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 
 
 
and stays hung until interrupted by ctrl-C.



[Cooker] [Bug 2400] [drakxtools] Internet Impossilbe

2003-02-25 Thread rosselli
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2400





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It seems that the only safe way to connect after starting using zeroconf is via
the net_monitor utility (BTW, why not polish it and make it the default app for
dialup connections):

* wvdial doesn't find /dev/modem one every two times
* when it finds it, it's the modem hanging up (pppd error signal 16)
* same with kppp, it fails in interrogating the modem



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With the ''zeroconf'' it became impossible to connect to internet.

I'm tring to use Static Ip's but it doesn't function. It became impossible the 
connection to internet. 

I don't think I'm stupid but I spend one day tring to connnect to internet. I 
think that there's something that doesen't function. In all other mandrake 
Distrution I try I always will be able to connect to internet.

Thanks



[Cooker] [Bug 2203] [Installation] New: Sound chip identified but not correctly installed on Acer laptop

2003-02-23 Thread rosselli
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2203

   Product: Installation
 Component: hardware
   Summary: Sound chip identified but not correctly installed on
Acer laptop
   Version: 1.791
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On my Acer Travelmate 521 TE the sound chip (Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali
5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version 0.14.10h according to dmesg) seems to
be correctly identified at installation time, but the relative module fails at
boot time: insmod failed.

Syslog says:

kernel: Trident 4dWave/Sis 7018/Ali 5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version
0.14.10h
kernel: PCI: Guessed IRQ 10 for device 00:06.0
kernel: trident: ALi Audio Accelerator found at IO 0x 9000, IRQ 10
kernel: ALi 5451 did not come out of reset
kernel: trident_ac97_init: error resetting 5451
modprobe: Hint: [usual message about insmod errors]
modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz:
init_module: No such device
modprobe: modprobe: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.21pre4-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/trident.o.gz failed

Note: always installed with no problems using Mandrake Linux 8.1, 8.2, 9.0.



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[Cooker] 9.1 beta 2 test report

2003-01-23 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco
Hi all,
these are my experiences with ML 9.1 beta 2 (installed alongside with 
9.0 sharing the /boot partition), I hope they can be of help. If you 
think I should add some bugzilla entry, please CC: me in an eventual 
reply because I'm not subscribed to cooker list at the moment.

Test system:

Athlon 1.2 GHz
512 MB RAM
LG CD-RW
Panansonic DVD-RW
1 40 MB HD (Windows partitions)
1 60 MB HD (Linux partitions)
ATI Radeon video card
Sound Blaster 128 PCI sound card

Note: I could not install it on my Acer 521TE laptop because of an old 
incompatibility of current kernels with the ALI 52xx chipset.


###
9.1 beta 2 INSTALLATION
###

Estethically unpleasant:

- light brown highlighing on white/blue text (white text, blue background)
- button highlighting
- mouse pointer becomes an ugly watch when the installer is busy
- in some installation windows the lower buttons are cut by the lower 
edge of the window
- anti-aliased texts in the add images during package installation 
look somewhat blurred
- change CD window just a little too small to host the whole text, first 
line of text is cut

In the test window, the mouse wheel only works as a button, no sign of 
it working while moving it (works after installation).

The mouse pointer can't get out of the installation windows, I suppose 
this is intentional at the moment.

The first CD is required again, and not recognized, during system 
configuration (I kept inserting it, and the installer kept ejecting it 
and asking again for it). At last I had to Cancel use of the first CD.

The correct time zone wasn't listed in the summary window (empty 
button). I had to select it manually.

Then the installer went to install my printer: it recognized it all 
right (HP LaserJet 6L), but crashed immediately afterward (panic: 
swash_fetch).

Installer didn't try to set up the network.

After I checked my graphical configuration, when I went back to the 
summary window it reported the graphical interface as not configured. 
Clicking again on the button showed the right settings however.

It still is impossible to add or modify items to the bootloader menu, 
the window gets messed if you try to do so and furthermore it is 
impossible to enter or modify text to specify the root partition.

+ The installer recognized all my linux partitions on the hdb disk, 
assigning them the correct mount point (I suppose it read my 9.0 fstab).



9.1 beta 2 TRIAL


First time I tried log in, kdm just didn't let me do it: I typed login 
name and password of my 9.1 user and nothing happened (well, the screen 
wavered a little). The second time I tried I got directly into KDE, no 
first time wizard.

I hope the default background picture (and the alternative ones) will be 
improved in number and quality. Much as I hate to say it, M$ Windows XP 
nature-based backgrounds are very effective: beautiful and relaxing 
without being distracting.

The Icon + Text description in Drakconf windows looks somewhat weird: 
the white text box aside of the icons is graphically awkward, perhaps 
the usual Icon + (short) Icon name + Tooltip on an uniform background 
would make more esthetically appealing.

Mousedrake freezes while loading (and the waiting picture colors are 
completely wrong). BTW, the semi-transparent cursor is nice, but not all 
users might appreciate it, so there should be the possibility to switch 
back to a solid one.

Many other config programs just freeze when launched, I suppose the 
transition to GTK2 is not done yet; printerdrake pops up again in a 
separate window after I click on done.

The 8.2 RPM installer wizard had a nice graphical interface, it went 
away in 9.0 and is not here either in 9.1beta, could it be reintroduced 
for 9.1 final?

Anyway, the first installation CD is not recognized anymore by 
urpmi/rpmdrake, just as happened during installation.

After experimenting with MCC, it froze: clicking on the icons on the 
left gave no results.

Xine exits immediately after launch on my box: all available video 
drivers failed. Works fine under 9.0. XMMS, Volume control and other 
multimedia apps work fine.


All in all, 9.1 looks very promising. Keep up the hard work!

Ciao

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers

2002-11-08 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco
J. Greenlees wrote:

unfortunately, Wim is right in the attitude for a lot of windows users.
most that have switched to linux already are the one's that do read 
manuals / docs / howtos ecetera.
a basic simple install should be designed for the moron level to keep 
the non reading section from filling lists with useless posts. a few 
apps, configured so only effort is plugging in user name.
with options to install more when / if they need it ( as currently exists )

How about simplifying the install process in this way:

1. Move Choose packages to Expert mode (yes, *both* groups and single 
packages).

2. In Recommended mode let the user choose the type of installation:

	Minimal	A Linux system with all basic applications
	Typical	Most common applications, Office programs etc.
	Full	A complete Linux system for SOHO use

Note that Windows users are usually very familiar with the 
Minimal/Typical/Full installation scheme, because many applications 
(even games) rely on it.

After the user has chosen the type of installation, DrakX checks HD 
space, if there's enough space available installs all applications for 
that type; if there are space constraints, OTOH, it skips packages 
according to a weight system (all packages with weight 1 are 
essential, weight 2 important, weight 3 less important, etc.); if space 
is really not sufficient, it warns the user and suggests to choose 
another type of installation.

Ciao

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Re: [Cooker] nautilus + urpmi + gnome-terminal problem

2002-11-06 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco
gabor wrote:

hi,

i'm using gnome-terminal...

when i set up nautilus to draw the desktop,
then:

when i'm in a gnome-terminal, and urpmi something, then after the urpmi
program finishes installing the packages,

the gnome-terminals become completely unresponsive, they didn't even
redraw the processor is at 100%.then after approx 40seconds
they become ok.

if i set up nautilus not-to-draw the desktop, this doesn't happen.
any ideas ?


Same problem here, every time the RPM database is modified installing or 
removing packages.

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[Cooker] 9.0: Problems installing on a laptop

2002-10-31 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Hi all,
9.0 installation worked just fine on my Acer 521TE. Then I changed the 
default hard disk with a 20 GB Fujitsu and went for reinstalling it. 
Much to my surprise, the installation process freezes quite early at the 
Partition check step: the hd light is on, but nothing happens, and 
there's no way to interrupt the check and go ahead. The Fujitsu drive is 
correctly identified, but to no avail.

I tried with the alternate kernels (BTW: in the F2 help page the names 
for the alternate kernels look wrong, they are lt0, lt1 and lt2 instead 
of alt0, alt1 and alt2), and the partition check is passed, but 
afterwards as soon as DrakX is loaded the mouse pointer goes crazy and 
installation becomes problematic.

Any ideas? Is there some line to pass at installation time to avoid this?

[Sorry if this is 9.0 related, but it struck me as so weird that I felt 
it might be interesting for Cooker developers, besides there's the ltx 
stuff]

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Re: [Cooker] Nedit problems on 9.0

2002-10-27 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco
Jan Hendrik Mangold wrote:

Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:


I observed the same problem, you can open two files but starting each 
program from a console, but when you do it from a previously opened 
nedit, is not possible edit in the second windows.

I have the same problem, but only if I use the File-Open option, not 
when using File-New and then File-Open.

I have the same problem and, besides that, text is corrupt in the status 
bar and in the file requester windows (making it very difficult to 
change names of files to be saved).

Weird.


Definitely.

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Re: [Cooker] drakfont doesn't work

2001-05-05 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

dam's wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pablito) writes:
 
  I think someone mentioned this already, but drakfont doesn't work at all in
  LM 8.0.  It was very slowww in Beta 3.
 
  can someone please remind me how to install new truetype fonts without
  having to go through drakfont?

8.0 drakfont (0.58-11) worked for me, although it was really slow.
 
 A new version corrects this. Available in cooker or there:
 
 http://mandrakesoft.com/~damien/drakfont-0.58-12mdk.i586.rpm

Should also go in the updates, no? 

 dam's

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Re: [Cooker] Problems with Linux-Mandrake 8.0

2001-05-01 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 
 If I have only this little info, you understand I can't do much. It's
 possible it's a bug, it's possible it's an error from you :-)).

Of course you're right. 
 
 At boot time it should not try to load kernel22 modules then. Last time I
 checked, this worked.

That's what happens, actually. How can I get rid of every drakgw
modification to start with a clean slate?
 
  I tested it and now xmms works flawlessly. Pass it to your packagers.
 
 I am :-). Thanks, I'll add this.

Don't mention it :)

 Guillaume Cottenceau

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Re: [Cooker] [OFFTOPIC] Travel to italia

2001-05-01 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I know it's a bit offtopic but well if someone can help me. I plan to
 spend a week vacation to italy and would like to know if you know the
 best places in italy to go for young people[1], nightclub etc (nice
 girls will be a great plus ;))..
 
 websites pointers (even in italia) would be cool also...
 
 Footnotes:
 [1]  I don't care about historical visit exploration.

As I am the historical visit type, I'll pass this one, sorry Chmouel
:)
 
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Re: [Cooker] [mdk 8]Emacs bug report

2001-05-01 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Alessandro Ronchi (Zoddo-) wrote:
 
 At 22.02 30/04/01 +0100, you wrote:
 Alessandro Ronchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   When opening a simple text file with emacs on mdk 8, the text seems to
   be underscored, and that program is not utilizable.
 
 couldn't reproduce the problem.
 
 Is there any program to take a snapshot? Could you tell me his name? So I
 can show you the problem. Maybe my packet list could be useful?
 
 Alessandro Ronchizoddo-

Under Gnome there's a very handy applet called Screenshooter.

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Re: [Cooker] Problems with Linux-Mandrake 8.0

2001-05-01 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Daouda LO wrote:
 
 Roberto Rosselli Del Turco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  My package version is mozilla-fonts-2310-6mdk, latest cooker file is
  mozilla-fonts-2310-7mdk, should I upgrade to that one?
 
 Yes , you can .

Done, to no avail. 

Have you read the message from Arnd Bergmann (Broken Type 1 font
rendering)? Don't you think that could be the cause? In fact I have
exactly the same problem with every application rendering Type 1 fonts
(I believe) to the screen: Abiword, StarOffice, etc.

  In the meanwhile, I managed to have gdm inverting the order of the kdm
  and gdm entries of the last if ... elif section of prefdm.
 
 The syntax has changed (according to Fred Crozat) . Put DESKTOP=GNOME instead of 
GNOME .

Will try it.

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Re: [Cooker] Problems with Linux-Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-30 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 
 Roberto Rosselli Del Turco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [...]
 
  - ip masquerading: the script I used under 7.2 doesn't work anymore, so
  I used drakgw, which installed the relevant packages. It didn't work,
  anyway, and I disabled it, but I still get warning messages at boot
  about a missing ip_masq_ftp module. (I've been quite lazy investigating
  this one, I'll admit it ;)
 
 All reports and tests I got about drakgw have been positive. Can you be
 more precise? What exactly was not working?

As I said, I just tried it quickly and never touched it afterwards. I
will try again as soon as I can and post more details if it fails again.
 
 ip_masq_ftp is provided with our latest 2.2 kernel:

I haven't it installed, actually. 
 
 [...]

  OK, I'll fill out the bug report, but this really is strange, never had
  a problem with XMMS before. Anyone else having problems with XMMS?
 
 The core XMMS seems to work fine. This is probably because you have a
 buggy plugin enabled, and when xmms starts it refreshes the plugin which
 cause everything to segfault. Try mv'ing your ~/.xmms to something else to
 investigate more...

I had the solution as soon as I visited the XMMS bug site: due to a bug
in the italian translation, xmms hangs immediately but *only* for
italian users, of course. One of the authors pointed me to the correct
.mo file (which will be incorporated in the next release of xmms):

http://traktor.nlh.no/~havardk/it.mo

I tested it and now xmms works flawlessly. Pass it to your packagers.

 Guillaume Cottenceau

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Re: [Cooker] Problems with Linux-Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-30 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Daouda LO wrote:
 
 Upgrade your mozilla-fonts packages to 3mdk or add line

My package version is mozilla-fonts-2310-6mdk, latest cooker file is
mozilla-fonts-2310-7mdk, should I upgrade to that one?

 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mozilla-fonts:unscaled,
 in section catalogue of the file /etc/X11/fs/config
 and restart your font server.
 Start netscape , go to Edition - preferences and choose helvetica (mozilla) as fixed
 font .

I only have fixed width fonts listed there, is there another config item
to set?
 
  - gdm: I can't have gdm as the login manager, I created a desktop file
  containing the string GNOME in /etc/sysconfig, like I did under LM
  7.2, but nothing happens: am I doing something stupid or what?
 
 reproductible :( . Investigatin'...

In the meanwhile, I managed to have gdm inverting the order of the kdm
and gdm entries of the last if ... elif section of prefdm.

  - exiting from GNOME, on the other hand, after I click on the panel
  button (or choose the menu item) I always have to wait about 10-15
  seconds before the session is closed: why?!? Didn't have to wait that
  long under LM 7.2.
 
 I logged out very fast here

I'll ask on the sawish ml. It sure is weird, many things seem slower in
sawfish 0.38 than the previous version, I even have to wait 3-4 seconds
for the window menu to pop up ...

Or else, it could be a GNOME problem, something related to the session
management. Who knows :(
 
Thanks for the tips, anyway.

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[Cooker] Problems with Linux-Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-28 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Hi all,

I installed LM 8.0 on two boxes and have had numerous problems. I think
Mandrakesoft should acknowledge them and offer an help page to its users
(this should be done for every release: there will *always* be problems
that pop up just *after* the official release, when you think everything
is alright ...). Here we go anyway:

 System n. 1 (AMD K6 350MHz, Savage3d, 64 Mb RAM) 

This is my test system, installation went smoothly, but:

- once I had a kernel panic when shutting down the system;

- the support for my graphics card (Savage 3D) is much worse than with X
3.3.6: moving the mouse pointer on the screen causes several glitches
(white lines, artifacts); this is not Traktopel's fault, probably,
unless you consider problems in compiling X that surfaced as concerns
the font system.

The other problems I met are the same I describe below.


 System n. 2 (Celeron 400MHz, Matrox G200, 128 Mb RAM) 

This is my work system, and I confess that I had a slight bad feeling
installing LM 8.0 after what I saw on my test system. Installation was
fine, again, and I experienced no kernel panics (so far). Instead, I
still have to face many small problems:

- an empty .mozilla was created in / : weird;

- fonts: thanks to some tips I found on MUO, I adjusted fonts in KDE but
still have weird fonts in Netscape and elsewhere, in particular a really
ugly helvetica font: how can I tell netscape not to use that font? I
understand it's a problem related to Type1 rendering, will there be an
update to the relevant packages?

- supermount: this otherwise nice and useful program sometimes gets
horribly confused when mounting/unmounting my CDs, to the point that
once the whole system was freezed and all I could do was press the reset
button ... This most definitely shouldn't happen.

- sawfish: when switching from one workspace to another one, the window
bars and frames take about half a second to be redrawn: this is weird,
never happened before with all the versions of sawfish I tried (and I
tried almost all); while not strictly being (probably) a LM 8.0 problem
I'd like to know if other people experienced the same behaviour and have
a fix for it. (Another problem with sawfish: left Window key is not
recognized, it worked perfectly under 7.2)

- gdm: I can't have gdm as the login manager, I created a desktop file
containing the string GNOME in /etc/sysconfig, like I did under LM
7.2, but nothing happens: am I doing something stupid or what?

- exiting from GNOME, on the other hand, after I click on the panel
button (or choose the menu item) I always have to wait about 10-15
seconds before the session is closed: why?!? Didn't have to wait that
long under LM 7.2.

- imwheel: didn't work well in LM 7.2, seems even worse in 8.0 as the
@Exclude option doesn't work anymore (at least here); the configuration
file is the same as for LM 7.2, so it seems it didn't receive a lot of
attention ... Anybody else experiencing problems? Any ideas why the
@Exclude option doesn't work anymore?

- ip masquerading: the script I used under 7.2 doesn't work anymore, so
I used drakgw, which installed the relevant packages. It didn't work,
anyway, and I disabled it, but I still get warning messages at boot
about a missing ip_masq_ftp module. (I've been quite lazy investigating
this one, I'll admit it ;)

- linuxconf: help windows are open in their full extension, no scroll
bars; what's more, the Communication tab of the PPP Interface doesn't
save properly new data. Again, not a LM 8.0 problem probably, I had to
modify the script by hand to solve it anyway.

- missing HOWTOs? I thought so when I opened the index.html that
organizes the HOWTOs and mini-HOWTO's (in english), but actually many of
the links are wrong: for instance you have two Access-HOWTO hyperlinks,
but the second one points to Adv-Bash_Scr-HOWTO.html. To correct ASAP.

- xmms segfaults with this message:

Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkitemfactory.c: line 1003
(gtk_item_factory_create_item): assertion `entry-path[0] == '/''
failed.

Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkCheckMenuItem'

Segmentation fault

You've probably found a bug in XMMS, please visit
http://www.xmms.org/bugs and fill out a bug report.

OK, I'll fill out the bug report, but this really is strange, never had
a problem with XMMS before. Anyone else having problems with XMMS?


All in all, I'm a little disappointed: what I want is a rock solid LM,
even if I have to wait two more weeks. I take care of the Italian
documentation for Mandrakesoft, I've written favorable reviews of
previous LM releases and advised friends to try it, and I want to do
that again: which is why I hope these little, but very annoying problems
will be corrected ASAP (I'd suggest to provide a) the relevant updates
b) a web page explaining how to fix the problems and containing links to
the aforementioned updates).

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Re: [Cooker] Nautilus Preview 2

2000-11-20 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

"Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes" wrote:
 
 Hello
 Per chance, have someone got Nautilus Preview 2 running on 7.2?  How
 about evolution?

Evolution works well on 7.2, no problem at all (I'm using the latest
Helix Gnome setup).
 
 Many thanks
 
 Regards
 
 Eduardo
 
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Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate

2000-11-19 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Sam wrote:

[...]
 
 This brought up another issue. RPMdrake is great for installing new
 packages but pretty useless for doing updates. The tree listed all of the
 update packages downloaded (I didn't need all of them, but I was trying
 this out). This would be fine, except I only wanted to install the
 updated packages, and I had no way of knowing which ones to check from
 the list. I brought up kpackage and used it instead. To be honest, I feel
 kpackage is still WAY ahead of rpmdrake. If you're going to include this
 package, it seems it should have at least the same functionality as
 kpackage, otherwise it's just wasted disk space.

Yup, nothing beats kpackage at the moment: it's the only KDE application
I use regularly in my GNOME environment. How about a GTK/Gnome port?
Would be a better use of resources IMHO.
 
 Sam
 

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Re: [Cooker] Wheel mouse support in 7.1/Cooker

2000-06-22 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

 [...] 

 
 I hope that something has helped here; but since this isn't the support
 list, I'll just say "good luck".

Well, thanks anyway :)

 Mike
 

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Re: [Cooker] Wheel mouse support in 7.1/Cooker

2000-06-21 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:
 
 I'm using the logitech trackball with the thumb marble and scroll wheel,
 it works just fine.  You have to edit your XF86Config file (3.3.6 or 4.0
 - both work just fine) adding the lines to the 'Pointer' section:
 
 Buttons 3
 ZAxisMapping4 5
 
 and make sure to comment out the lines that say:
 
 emulate3buttons
 emulate3timeout
 
 or anything to that effect.  Make sure that 'protocol' is
 MouseManPlusPS/2 and 'device' is /dev/mouse (make sure to follow the
 syntax of whichever file you happen to be editing).
 
 Finally, include a copy of imwheelrc in the $user directory of anyone
 who cares to use it, and perform chmod a+x /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel
 
 Everything should work just fine after that.

Excepted for the copy of imwheelrc in my home directory (is it really
necessary?), these settings correspond to those resulting from my 7.1
installation, but I wouldn't say it worked fine, as you can see from the
list below. At the moment I've given up to imwheel: either it doesn't
work properly with my mouse (logitech wheel mouse), or the settings
saved at installation time are wrong.

   
 1. it works with Netscape and other Motif applications (Nedit), but the
 scrolling is worse (i.e. rough, not smooth as before);
 2. it still works in most GNOME applications, but the scrolling is worse
 (idem, add a really annoying 'circular' scrolling);
 3. it stopped working, or works partially, in some GTK/GNOME working
 applications (e.g. gentoo, I can't scroll my shortcuts anymore);
 4. it most definitely stopped working with WINGs windows;
 5. it most definitely stopped working with aterm;
 6. it still doesn't work with KDE applications.
   

 
 Mike  Tracy Holt
 Kirkland, WA
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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Re: [Cooker] Wheel mouse support in 7.1/Cooker

2000-06-19 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

David BAUDENS wrote:
 
 root écrivit :
 
 [...]
 
  1. it works with Netscape and other Motif applications (Nedit), but the
  scrolling is worse (i.e. rough, not smooth as before);
  2. it still works in most GNOME applications, but the scrolling is worse
  (idem, add a really annoying 'circular' scrolling);
  3. it stopped working, or works partially, in some GTK/GNOME working
  applications (e.g. gentoo, I can't scroll my shortcuts anymore);
  4. it most definitely stopped working with WINGs windows;
  5. it most definitely stopped working with aterm;
  6. it still doesn't work with KDE applications.
 
 [...]
 
 Have you launch Imwheel? Wheel work fines in all applications with it.

If I'm not wrong, it's launched automatically at startup time.
 
 --
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 PARIS, FRANCE   --David

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Re: [Cooker] Wheel mouse support in 7.1/Cooker

2000-06-19 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

David BAUDENS wrote:
 
 root écrivit :
 
 [...]
 
  1. it works with Netscape and other Motif applications (Nedit), but the
  scrolling is worse (i.e. rough, not smooth as before);
  2. it still works in most GNOME applications, but the scrolling is worse
  (idem, add a really annoying 'circular' scrolling);
  3. it stopped working, or works partially, in some GTK/GNOME working
  applications (e.g. gentoo, I can't scroll my shortcuts anymore);
  4. it most definitely stopped working with WINGs windows;
  5. it most definitely stopped working with aterm;
  6. it still doesn't work with KDE applications.
 
 [...]
 
 Have you launch Imwheel? Wheel work fines in all applications with it.

Actually, I think imwheel is the culprit: it sure doesn't deliver what
promised. So, waiting for a better understanding of how it works, I'd
like to disable it: can I safely uninstall it or is it better to comment
it out (what's the script in question?)? 

I must say I am mildly disappointed with this release, mainly because of
details like this; even Netscape is behaving funny, when I launch it the
window is blank and useless for about 5 minutes, then it comes to life:
never seen this before, abrupt termination was the norm :)

Mind you: it still is one of the best, if not the best, Linux
distribution IMHO. Just needing some refining here and there.

 --
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 PARIS, FRANCE   --David
 
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