Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-21 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
I meant my RPMs that I uploaded to usual place; I updated them a bit
since then.

please get a look.

-Original Message-

 
 Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   (should module-init-tools not BuildRequire glibc-static-devel ?)
  
  yes it should. But because I build it on 9.1 and 9.1 does not have
  glibc-static-devel I was a bit selfish and put something that
  applies to both.
  
  I guess doing urpmi module-init-tools-XXX.src.rpm should pull in
  that as well, but I may be wrong.
  
  Thierry, please put in correct requires for official package. I
  guess I can live with rpm -b --nodeps
 
 already fixed since Jul 24 2003, it seems
 
 



Re: ALSA must be module Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-20 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
On Thursday 14 August 2003 14:10, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:

Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 20:11, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
[...]

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28
11:08:42 2003 UTC).
ALSA device list:
No soundcards found

[...]

1. when exactly do you see this message?
When kernel booting. (after EISA)
WTF!!! So, ALSA core is compiled in 
It looks like so.
At first I was thinking it was the new way of doing with 2.6 but thinking 
twice it's true some machines doesn't need sound.

Olivier, this has never been supported AFAIK please recompile ALSA as module 
or fix initscripts :)

Fabien, get srpm and recompile ALSA as module (and OSS BTW too if you use it). 
This will fix it.
[...]
Well, isn't already as module as I can modprobe snd-intel8x0 ?
Could it be module from another kernel I have (don't think so but...)
2. what message gives ALSA initscript during boot?
ALSA service is already running or something like that (I'm with a 2.4
right now)
please, do not answer or something like this because it is worse than just 
saying I will check later. People may waste time trying to find out what is 
wrong just to find out you gave wrong message ...
[...]
Well, the exact message is in French and it's :
Le pilote ALSA (version 0.9.6) est déjà en marche.
So I should write ALSA driver is already running instead of ALSA 
service..., it was on service I wasn't sure, but the main object was 
ALSA is already running, which confirm your think about ALSA core-kernel 
compiled.

But you're right, I'll write exact messages next time ;-)

The strange thing is that I can still modprobe snd-intel8x0 without error.
and sound works after that?
Well, after pump up the volumes, and unmute channels with alsamixer, yes.

Certainly cause mixer settings haven't been restored during boot, cause 
above error.

Other strange thing is that even by adding snd-intel8x0 in 
/etc/modules, it isn't loaded at all, I must load it by hand.

Bye,
Fabien
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Re: ALSA must be module Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-20 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
/It seems this one have been squished by cooker, I resent, sorry if you 
get it twice./

Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
On Thursday 14 August 2003 14:10, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:

Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 20:11, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
[...]

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28
11:08:42 2003 UTC).
ALSA device list:
No soundcards found

[...]

1. when exactly do you see this message?
When kernel booting. (after EISA)
WTF!!! So, ALSA core is compiled in 
It looks like so.
At first I was thinking it was the new way of doing with 2.6 but thinking
twice it's true some machines doesn't need sound.
Olivier, this has never been supported AFAIK please recompile ALSA as module 
or fix initscripts :)

Fabien, get srpm and recompile ALSA as module (and OSS BTW too if you use it). 
This will fix it.
[...]
Well, isn't already as module as I can modprobe snd-intel8x0 ?
Could it be module from another kernel I have (don't think so but...)
2. what message gives ALSA initscript during boot?
ALSA service is already running or something like that (I'm with a 2.4
right now)
please, do not answer or something like this because it is worse than just 
saying I will check later. People may waste time trying to find out what is 
wrong just to find out you gave wrong message ...
[...]
Well, the exact message is in French and it's :
Le pilote ALSA (version 0.9.6) est déjà en marche.
So I should write ALSA driver is already running instead of ALSA
service..., it was on service I wasn't sure, but the main object was
ALSA is already running, which confirm your think about ALSA core-kernel
compiled.
But you're right, I'll write exact messages next time ;-)

The strange thing is that I can still modprobe snd-intel8x0 without error.
and sound works after that?
Well, after pump up the volumes, and unmute channels with alsamixer, yes.

Certainly mixer settings haven't been restored during boot, cause
above error.
Other strange thing is that even by adding snd-intel8x0 in
/etc/modules, it isn't loaded at all, I must load it by hand.
Bye,
Fabien
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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-20 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  (should module-init-tools not BuildRequire glibc-static-devel ?)
 
 yes it should. But because I build it on 9.1 and 9.1 does not have
 glibc-static-devel I was a bit selfish and put something that
 applies to both.
 
 I guess doing urpmi module-init-tools-XXX.src.rpm should pull in
 that as well, but I may be wrong.
 
 Thierry, please put in correct requires for official package. I
 guess I can live with rpm -b --nodeps

already fixed since Jul 24 2003, it seems




2.6 kernel module 8139too.ko - was [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-20 Thread Paul Dorman
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 02:10, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
 [...]

  It doesn't load 8139too, and maybe cause of that I have completely
  empy routing-table when I do netstat -rn not even localhost seen?
  Usually I see three or four entries in netstat -rn.
  I also see following:
  error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1
   loopback  arping:socket:
   Address family not supported by protocol
  Modprobe 8139too loads it or at least I see it in lsmod after modprobe,

 which means it is not module-init-tools.

 I hope someone else will be able to help you I do not have LAN
 card (on a system with 2.6 at least) so ...

 good luck

 -andrey
Just thought I'd stick my nose in... (well, my NIC uses the same module).
I suspect the problem lies in the fact that the module 8139too.ko is present 
in test2, but not in test3. I doubt you can just copy it...

Best regards,
Paul.




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread stronne
17. Aug 2003 13:53, Buchan Milne wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, stronne wrote:
   Sun 17. Elokuuta 2003 00:55, Adam Williamson wrote:
   On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:15, stronne wrote:
I tried to install module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm
with # rpm --rebuild
It said it needs /usr/lib/libc.a
Anybody any idea where I could find that?
  
   glibc-static-devel .
 
  Thank You, that it was and now I could
  install module-init-tools too.
  And see if it makes any difrence about
  2.6 modules :)

 BTW, in future, instead of asking the list a question, ask urpmf the same
 question, and you will get an answer much faster:

 $ urpmf /usr/lib/libc.a$
 glibc-static-devel:/usr/lib/libc.a

Thank you :) I actually shouldn't be at this list in the first place.
I belong to newbie with my silly questions :)

 (should module-init-tools not BuildRequire glibc-static-devel ?)

At least for me it didn't build, it required that libc.a
which turn out to be glibc-static-devel :) After that it build otherwise
well but complained about missing group bor and said using root instead.
But installing module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm didn't help.
Kernel-2.6 still doesn't load modules I need.  I have generated
modprobe.conf in /etc and I have aliases there but no help.
Greetings
Stronne





Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread Andrey Borzenkov

 But installing module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm didn't help.
 Kernel-2.6 still doesn't load modules I need. 

... which (modules) are ... ?

  I have generated
 modprobe.conf in /etc and I have aliases there but no help.

well you do not tell which modules do not load nor what is in
modprobe.conf ... hard to help.

-andrey




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread stronne
Mon 18. Aug 2003 12:19, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

  But installing module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm didn't help.
  Kernel-2.6 still doesn't load modules I need.

 ... which (modules) are ... ?

8139too for the card rtl-8139c

  I have generated

  modprobe.conf in /etc and I have aliases there but no help.

 well you do not tell which modules do not load nor what is in
 modprobe.conf ... hard to help.

There is alias for that module, but how this mii relate to that 8139too?
mii doesn't have alias and doesn't load automatically?

Cheers
Stronne





Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
please Cc me I do not receive cooker.

8139too for the card rtl-8139c

  I have generated

  modprobe.conf in /etc and I have aliases there but no help.

 well you do not tell which modules do not load nor what is in
 modprobe.conf ... hard to help.

 There is alias for that module, but how this mii relate to that 8139too?
 mii doesn't have alias and doesn't load automatically?

I have no idea what mii is. Would you mind show your modules.conf,
modprobe.conf and explain what mii is and why you expect it to load
(or be module for that matter).

thank you




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread stronne
Mon 18. Aug 2003 14:26, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
 please Cc me I do not receive cooker.

 8139too for the card rtl-8139c
 
   I have generated
  
   modprobe.conf in /etc and I have aliases there but no help.
 
  well you do not tell which modules do not load nor what is in
  modprobe.conf ... hard to help.
 
  There is alias for that module, but how this mii relate to that 8139too?
  mii doesn't have alias and doesn't load automatically?

 I have no idea what mii is. Would you mind show your modules.conf,
 modprobe.conf and explain what mii is and why you expect it to load
 (or be module for that matter).

I know this not so good network card, but can not easily change it
cause it is in laptop.

alias eth0 8139too
alias usb-controller usb-uhci
alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0  { 
/bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L /dev/null 21 || :; }
remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S /dev/null 21 
|| :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove sound-slot-0

Modinfo says about mii that it is:
description: MII hardware support library
author:  Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
license: GPL

If I did understand correctly, I think he wrote
that 8139too also?

Greetings
Stronne








Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread Andrey Borzenkov


-Original Message-

 
 Mon 18. Aug 2003 14:26, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
  please Cc me I do not receive cooker.
 
  8139too for the card rtl-8139c
  
I have generated
   
modprobe.conf in /etc and I have aliases there but no help.
  
   well you do not tell which modules do not load nor what is in
   modprobe.conf ... hard to help.
  
   There is alias for that module, but how this mii relate to that 8139too?
   mii doesn't have alias and doesn't load automatically?
 
  I have no idea what mii is. Would you mind show your modules.conf,
  modprobe.conf and explain what mii is and why you expect it to load
  (or be module for that matter).
 
 I know this not so good network card, but can not easily change it
 cause it is in laptop.
 
 alias eth0 8139too
 alias usb-controller usb-uhci
 alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
 alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio
 install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0  { 
 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L /dev/null 21 || :; }
 remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S /dev/null 21 
 || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove sound-slot-0
 
 Modinfo says about mii that it is:
 description: MII hardware support library
 author:  Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 license: GPL
 

OK, I still do not understand your problem.

Does 8139too load or not? If not what is exact error? What happens
when you do modprobe 8139too? What happens if you do modprobe eth0
(of course assuming it is not already loaded)

I am sorry but I checked your posts in this thread in archives and
I cannot find ANY description of your problem except it did not help. Nor do you 
give ANY description of your problem now.



Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread stronne
Mon 18. Aug 2003 15:56, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
 -Original Message-

  Mon 18. Aug 2003 14:26, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
   please Cc me I do not receive cooker.
  
   8139too for the card rtl-8139c
   
 I have generated

 modprobe.conf in /etc and I have aliases there but no help.
   
well you do not tell which modules do not load nor what is in
modprobe.conf ... hard to help.
   
There is alias for that module, but how this mii relate to that
8139too? mii doesn't have alias and doesn't load automatically?
  
   I have no idea what mii is. Would you mind show your modules.conf,
   modprobe.conf and explain what mii is and why you expect it to load
   (or be module for that matter).
 
  I know this not so good network card, but can not easily change it
  cause it is in laptop.
 
  alias eth0 8139too
  alias usb-controller usb-uhci
  alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
  alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio
  install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0  {
  /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L /dev/null 21 || :; }
  remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S /dev/null
  21
 
  || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove sound-slot-0
 
  Modinfo says about mii that it is:
  description: MII hardware support library
  author:  Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  license: GPL

 OK, I still do not understand your problem.

 Does 8139too load or not? If not what is exact error? What happens
 when you do modprobe 8139too? What happens if you do modprobe eth0
 (of course assuming it is not already loaded)

 I am sorry but I checked your posts in this thread in archives and
 I cannot find ANY description of your problem except it did not help. Nor
 do you give ANY description of your problem now.

It doesn't load 8139too, and maybe cause of that I have completely
empy routing-table when I do netstat -rn not even localhost seen?
Usually I see three or four entries in netstat -rn.
I also see following:
error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1
 loopback  arping:socket:
 Address family not supported by protocol
Modprobe 8139too loads it or at least I see it in lsmod after modprobe, but I 
cannot use internet despite of /etc/init.d/network restart
and /etc/init.d/internet restart neither would mcc help
After those I see two entries in netstat -rn

And I think my network settings must be ok, cause at least they work
with 2.4-kernels?
So main problem is that I can not use the internet with 2.6?
Greetings
Stronne





Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-18 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
[...]
 
 It doesn't load 8139too, and maybe cause of that I have completely
 empy routing-table when I do netstat -rn not even localhost seen?
 Usually I see three or four entries in netstat -rn.
 I also see following:
 error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1
  loopback  arping:socket:
  Address family not supported by protocol
 Modprobe 8139too loads it or at least I see it in lsmod after modprobe,

which means it is not module-init-tools.

I hope someone else will be able to help you I do not have LAN
card (on a system with 2.6 at least) so ...

good luck

-andrey



Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-17 Thread stronne
Viestissä Sunnuntai 17. Elokuuta 2003 00:55, Adam Williamson kirjoitti:
 On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:15, stronne wrote:
   13. Aug 2003 17:22, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
   Argh ...
  
   please, install module-init-tools and hotplug from
  
   http://supermount-ng.sf.net/mdk-25/
  
   (they are SRPM you will have to compile them) then do
 
  I tried to install module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm
  with # rpm --rebuild
  It said it needs /usr/lib/libc.a
  Anybody any idea where I could find that?

 glibc-static-devel .

Thank You, that it was and now I could
install module-init-tools too.
And see if it makes any difrence about
2.6 modules :)
Cheers
Stronne





Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-17 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, stronne wrote:

 Viestissä Sunnuntai 17. Elokuuta 2003 00:55, Adam Williamson kirjoitti:
  On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:15, stronne wrote:
  
   I tried to install module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm
   with # rpm --rebuild
   It said it needs /usr/lib/libc.a
   Anybody any idea where I could find that?
 
  glibc-static-devel .
 
 Thank You, that it was and now I could
 install module-init-tools too.
 And see if it makes any difrence about
 2.6 modules :)

BTW, in future, instead of asking the list a question, ask urpmf the same 
question, and you will get an answer much faster:

$ urpmf /usr/lib/libc.a$
glibc-static-devel:/usr/lib/libc.a

(should module-init-tools not BuildRequire glibc-static-devel ?)

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-17 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
 (should module-init-tools not BuildRequire glibc-static-devel ?)

yes it should. But because I build it on 9.1 and 9.1 does not have 
glibc-static-devel I was a bit selfish and put something that applies to 
both.

I guess doing urpmi module-init-tools-XXX.src.rpm should pull in that as well, 
but I may be wrong.

Thierry, please put in correct requires for official package. I guess I can 
live with rpm -b --nodeps

sorry

-andrey



Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-16 Thread stronne
 13. Aug 2003 17:22, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

 Argh ...

 please, install module-init-tools and hotplug from

 http://supermount-ng.sf.net/mdk-25/

 (they are SRPM you will have to compile them) then do

I tried to install module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm
with # rpm --rebuild
It said it needs /usr/lib/libc.a
Anybody any idea where I could find that?

Thanks
Stronne





Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:15, stronne wrote:
  13. Aug 2003 17:22, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
 
  Argh ...
 
  please, install module-init-tools and hotplug from
 
  http://supermount-ng.sf.net/mdk-25/
 
  (they are SRPM you will have to compile them) then do
 
 I tried to install module-init-tools-0.9.13-1bor.src.rpm
 with # rpm --rebuild
 It said it needs /usr/lib/libc.a
 Anybody any idea where I could find that?

glibc-static-devel .
-- 
adamw




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 21:01, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

 I had the same behaviour with the previous
  modprobe.conf , which was generated by
  module-init-tools-0.9.13-0.pre.0.3bor on installation, and looked much
  the same except without the huge string of alias'es at the top.
 
 and USB did not load? I do not believe it sorry :)

Nope, even with the newest, it's not right. History again:

 1003  rpm -Uvh module-init-tools-0.9.13-0.pre2.0.3bor.i586.rpm
 1004  rm -f module-init-tools-0.9.13-0.pre.0.3bor.i586.rpm
 1005  cd /etc
 1006  less modprobe.conf
 1007  history

Before this I uninstalled module-init-tools-0.9.13-0.pre.0.3bor and
removed /etc/modprobe.* to give it a completely clean shot. This is the
modprobe.conf it generated. Note that usb-uhci is still the name used.



# This file is autogenerated from /etc/modules.conf using
generate-modprobe.conf command
 
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-ymfpci
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 meye
options meye gbuffers=32
alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
install scsi_hostadapter /sbin/modprobe usb-storage; /bin/true
install snd-ymfpci /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ymfpci  {
/sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }
install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /bin/true
remove snd-ymfpci { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; }; /sbin/modprobe -r
--ignore-remove snd-ymfpci
-- 
adamw




ALSA must be module Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Thursday 14 August 2003 14:10, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
 Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
 Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
 On Wednesday 13 August 2003 20:11, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
 [...]

 Just about modprobe.conf : do you also have a line similar to
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; }; /sbin/modprobe -r
 --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

 at end of file ? (or do you just have quite the same but with install
 instead of remove, the one you quote in past mail ?)


yes. it is normal, it is translation of postremove (or preremove, do not 
remember) from modutils.

[...]

 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28
 11:08:42 2003 UTC).
 ALSA device list:
 No soundcards found
[...]
  1. when exactly do you see this message?

 When kernel booting. (after EISA)

WTF!!! So, ALSA core is compiled in 

Olivier, this has never been supported AFAIK please recompile ALSA as module 
or fix initscripts :)

Fabien, get srpm and recompile ALSA as module (and OSS BTW too if you use it). 
This will fix it.
[...]
  2. what message gives ALSA initscript during boot?

 ALSA service is already running or something like that (I'm with a 2.4
 right now)


please, do not answer or something like this because it is worse than just 
saying I will check later. People may waste time trying to find out what is 
wrong just to find out you gave wrong message ...
[...]
 The strange thing is that I can still modprobe snd-intel8x0 without error.


and sound works after that?

-andrey



Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 08:35, stronne wrote:

 Thank you, now I can see console text :)
 Where I could find .test3, I looked from cooker contrib
 but found only this test2.2?

Look again :). Packages move fast in Cooker.

 Does .test3 support supermount?

Erm, I haven't actually tried. Couldn't tell you.
-- 
adamw




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

For me, I must modprobe the 3C59x module, and ALSA seems to have worries, 
but it works ! ;o)


What is in your modprobe.conf?
Well, I never touch it, there's :
include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.default
include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.compat
uncommented lines.
Argh ...

please, install module-init-tools and hotplug from

http://supermount-ng.sf.net/mdk-25/

(they are SRPM you will have to compile them) then do 

generate-modprobe.conf  /etc/modprobe.conf
OK, thanks.
Just few questions : will this update will still work with 2.4 kernel ? 
(I mean : must I use 2.6 with these new versions, or could I use 2.4 and 
2.6 ?)

I must do :
modprobe 3c59x
then
pump
in order to have eth0 up.
sure. You do have alias eth0 3c59x in modules.conf?
Yes.
It works good with 2.4.x
What version of module-init-tools do you have?
module-init-tools-0.9.11a-4mdk
hmm ... have you done new install of this version or updated from
old one?
Update of old one, with cooker update.

What problems do you have with ALSA (because I do not)
Well, it seems that ALSA-inKernel doen't detect my card (first message 
I see about ALSA when booting), 


can you quote exact message?
In a next mail.

then when the service is laucnhed (as for 
2.4 kernels), it says that ALSA is already running (think it's the first 
message).
if you have empty modprobe.conf and current initscripts you won't
get them loaded.
Please update modul-init-tools (and possibly hotplug) and try again.
Let me know if it works.
OK,
Bye,
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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 20:11, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
[...]
can you quote exact message?
Here it is :
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28
11:08:42 2003 UTC).
ALSA device list:
No soundcards found
and what is now in modprobe.conf?
Here's the file :
alias eth0 3c59x
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
alias eth1 3c59x
install scsi_hostadapter /sbin/modprobe usb-storage; /sbin/modprobe 
ide-scsi; /bin/true
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0  { 
/sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }
install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /bin/true
remove snd-intel8x0 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; }; /sbin/modprobe -r 
--ignore-remove snd-intel8x


then when the service is laucnhed (as for
2.4 kernels), it says that ALSA is already running (think it's the first
message).
If I do a modprobe snd-intel8x0, several sound modules are loaded, then
alsamixer see it and I can unmute the channels, but still no sound.
well, hard to say. may well be driver problem as well. I have

alias sound-card-0 snd-emu10k1
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1  { 
/sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }
Seems the same

last line is machine translation of

above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
I've got that in modules.conf, I'll try to add it in modprobe.conf

also may be difference between als versions (different channels etc) I had 
hard time to find out how to unmute my card ...
Me too :o)
Bye,
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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread stronne
Tuesday 12. 8. 2003 20:16, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 17:17, stronne wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I downloaded and installed kernel-2.6.0-0.test2.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.
  It will boot but I don't see any console text?
  Kde comes up but mice don't work (usb and ps2)?
  Any tips appreciated greatly :)
  Where I could find mdk specified docs for 2.6?
  Greetings
  Stronne

 1: set vga=normal in lilo.conf, 2: get test3, 3: you can't, 2.6 is a
 contribution not a main package.

Thank you, now I can see console text :)
Where I could find .test3, I looked from cooker contrib
but found only this test2.2?
Does .test3 support supermount?
Greetings
Stronne




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 20:11, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
[...]
Just about modprobe.conf : do you also have a line similar to
remove snd-intel8x0 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; }; /sbin/modprobe -r 
--ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

at end of file ? (or do you just have quite the same but with install 
instead of remove, the one you quote in past mail ?)

can you quote exact message?
Here it is :
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28
11:08:42 2003 UTC).
ALSA device list:
No soundcards found

Oops. Now I am confused. When exactly this message comes? It is not
message from /etc/init.d/alsa unless something is very fishy.
So once more:

1. when exactly do you see this message?
When kernel booting. (after EISA)
I see the above message in dmesg.
That's why I was talking about alsa-inkernel
I don't see ALSA message at kernel-boot time with 2.4, that's why I think 
ALSA kernel-driven.

2. what message gives ALSA initscript during boot?
ALSA service is already running or something like that (I'm with a 2.4 
right now)

3. What gives service alsa start after boot?
The same : ALSA is already running.

The strange thing is that I can still modprobe snd-intel8x0 without error.

Bye,
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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :

For me, I must modprobe the 3C59x module, and ALSA seems to have worries, 
but it works ! ;o)
What is in your modprobe.conf?
Well, I never touch it, there's :
include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.default
include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.compat
uncommented lines.
Argh ...

please, install module-init-tools and hotplug from 
http://supermount-ng.sf.net/mdk-25/ 
(they are SRPM you will have to compile them) then do 
generate-modprobe.conf  /etc/modprobe.conf
Done.
Thanks, now 3c59x is loaded and eth0 is up.
What problems do you have with ALSA (because I do not)
Well, it seems that ALSA-inKernel doen't detect my card (first message 
I see about ALSA when booting), 
can you quote exact message?
Here it is :
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28 
11:08:42 2003 UTC).
ALSA device list:
No soundcards found

then when the service is laucnhed (as for 
2.4 kernels), it says that ALSA is already running (think it's the first 
message).
If I do a modprobe snd-intel8x0, several sound modules are loaded, then 
alsamixer see it and I can unmute the channels, but still no sound.

bye,
Fabien
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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
For me, I must modprobe the 3C59x module, and ALSA seems to have worries, 
but it works ! ;o)


What is in your modprobe.conf?
Well, I never touch it, there's :
include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.default
include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.compat
uncommented lines.

I must do :
modprobe 3c59x
then
pump
in order to have eth0 up.

What version of module-init-tools do you have?
module-init-tools-0.9.11a-4mdk

What problems do you have with ALSA (because I do not)
Well, it seems that ALSA-inKernel doen't detect my card (first message 
I see about ALSA when booting), then when the service is laucnhed (as for 
2.4 kernels), it says that ALSA is already running (think it's the first 
message).

I don't have sound modules loaded (but may be it's in kernel now ?), but 
if I modprobe them they are loading.

My card is :
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio 
Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Cirrus Logic: Unknown device 5959
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
I/O ports at dc80 [size=64]


do you compile your kernel or install binary form cooker?
Binary from cooker.

Bye,
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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 19:27, Adam Williamson wrote:
[...]

 Hey Andrey...I'm using my laptop as a 2.6 test station now, since 2.6
 actually seems to work well on that, once I have it set up. It seems
 unstable on my desktop, something to do with disk transfers - any kind
 of heavy disk activity seems to crash it. Anyway, I have similar
 problems to the other guy, on my laptop. Lots of stuff that should start
 during boot doesn't, including usb, pcmcia and ALSA. I get no USB stuff
 of any description loaded, but if I do modprobe uhci_hcd as root, that
 works and usbmouse pops in too and starts working right away.

that is why I have modprobe.compat. please load the latest module-init-tools 
from usual place and regenerate modprobe.conf. It now includes default 
aliases and compat aliases automatically. or just replace usb-uhci with 
uhci-hcd

 I have the
 same experience with ALSA; the ALSA service fails to do its stuff,
 saying an ALSA driver is already loaded. modprobe snd-ymfpci brings it
 up.

sound-card-0 and sound-slot-0 together do not work at the very least. IMHO it 
is a bug in initscripts. What happens if you leave only sound-slot-0?


 PCMCIA just doesn't seem to load at all; service -f pcmcia followed
 by cardctl eject and then cardctl insert does the job, and after doing
 all that, my system works well.

no experience, but AFAIK it is (expected to be) superceded by hotplug. you 
need at least hotplug that supports 2.6 i.e. 2003_08_05, get from my site.
If it does not work I am afraid I cannot help much, I do not have the 
hardware.


 I'm attaching the current modprobe.conf,
 which was attained by doing (as you suggest) generate-modprobe.conf 
 /etc/modprobe.conf, after installing initscripts, module-init-tools and
 hotplug from your 2.5 page. 

that was my mistake. That is why new version includes default aliases 
automatically.

I had the same behaviour with the previous
 modprobe.conf , which was generated by
 module-init-tools-0.9.13-0.pre.0.3bor on installation, and looked much
 the same except without the huge string of alias'es at the top.

and USB did not load? I do not believe it sorry :)




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 19:27, Adam Williamson wrote:
[...]
  Anyway, I have similar
 problems to the other guy, on my laptop. Lots of stuff that should start
 during boot doesn't, including usb, pcmcia and ALSA. I get no USB stuff
 of any description loaded, but if I do modprobe uhci_hcd as root, that
 works and usbmouse pops in too and starts working right away. I have the
 same experience with ALSA; the ALSA service fails to do its stuff,
 saying an ALSA driver is already loaded. modprobe snd-ymfpci brings it
 up. PCMCIA just doesn't seem to load at all; service -f pcmcia followed
 by cardctl eject and then cardctl insert does the job, and after doing
 all that, my system works well.

USB mistery is yet to be solved.

ALSA is apparently due to the fact that core is compiled in and not a module

from your description it sounds like _some_ pcmcia modules are loaded before 
pcmcia starts and that makes pcmcia initscript terminate early; service -f 
unloads and reloads them and it works again (remaining problem why you need 
resit your card. but I do not have pcmcia experience to make any conclusion 
here). could you please somehow check (make something like lsmod  
/tmp/module.pcmcia) which modules are there when pcmcia starts? If you also 
find out why and when they are loaded ... :)





Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Andrey Borzenkov


 For me, I must modprobe the 3C59x module, and ALSA seems to have worries, 
 but it works ! ;o)
  
  
  What is in your modprobe.conf?
 
 Well, I never touch it, there's :
 include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.default
 include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.compat
 
 uncommented lines.
 

Argh ...

please, install module-init-tools and hotplug from

http://supermount-ng.sf.net/mdk-25/

(they are SRPM you will have to compile them) then do 

generate-modprobe.conf  /etc/modprobe.conf

 I must do :
 modprobe 3c59x
 then
 pump
 
 in order to have eth0 up.
 

sure. You do have alias eth0 3c59x in modules.conf?

  What version of module-init-tools do you have?
 
 module-init-tools-0.9.11a-4mdk
 

hmm ... have you done new install of this version or updated from
old one?

  What problems do you have with ALSA (because I do not)
 
 Well, it seems that ALSA-inKernel doen't detect my card (first message 
 I see about ALSA when booting), 

can you quote exact message?

 then when the service is laucnhed (as for 
 2.4 kernels), it says that ALSA is already running (think it's the first 
 message).
 

if you have empty modprobe.conf and current initscripts you won't
get them loaded.

Please update modul-init-tools (and possibly hotplug) and try again.
Let me know if it works.

thank you

-andrey




Re[2]: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Andrey Borzenkov


 Andrey Borzenkov a crit :
  On Wednesday 13 August 2003 20:11, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
  [...]
  
 can you quote exact message?
 
 Here it is :
 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28
 11:08:42 2003 UTC).
 ALSA device list:
 No soundcards found
  

Oops. Now I am confused. When exactly this message comes? It is not
message from /etc/init.d/alsa unless something is very fishy.

So once more:

1. when exactly do you see this message?
2. what message gives ALSA initscript during boot?
3. What gives service alsa start after boot?


-andrey



Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 15:22, =?koi8-r?Q?=22?=Andrey
Borzenkov=?koi8-r?Q?=22=20?= wrote:
  For me, I must modprobe the 3C59x module, and ALSA seems to have worries, 
  but it works ! ;o)
   
   
   What is in your modprobe.conf?
  
  Well, I never touch it, there's :
  include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.default
  include /lib/module-init-tools/modprobe.compat
  
  uncommented lines.
  
 
 Argh ...
 
 please, install module-init-tools and hotplug from
 
 http://supermount-ng.sf.net/mdk-25/
 
 (they are SRPM you will have to compile them) then do 
 
 generate-modprobe.conf  /etc/modprobe.conf

   What problems do you have with ALSA (because I do not)
  
  Well, it seems that ALSA-inKernel doen't detect my card (first message 
  I see about ALSA when booting), 
 
 can you quote exact message?
 
  then when the service is laucnhed (as for 
  2.4 kernels), it says that ALSA is already running (think it's the first 
  message).
  
 
 if you have empty modprobe.conf and current initscripts you won't
 get them loaded.
 
 Please update modul-init-tools (and possibly hotplug) and try again.
 Let me know if it works.

Hey Andrey...I'm using my laptop as a 2.6 test station now, since 2.6
actually seems to work well on that, once I have it set up. It seems
unstable on my desktop, something to do with disk transfers - any kind
of heavy disk activity seems to crash it. Anyway, I have similar
problems to the other guy, on my laptop. Lots of stuff that should start
during boot doesn't, including usb, pcmcia and ALSA. I get no USB stuff
of any description loaded, but if I do modprobe uhci_hcd as root, that
works and usbmouse pops in too and starts working right away. I have the
same experience with ALSA; the ALSA service fails to do its stuff,
saying an ALSA driver is already loaded. modprobe snd-ymfpci brings it
up. PCMCIA just doesn't seem to load at all; service -f pcmcia followed
by cardctl eject and then cardctl insert does the job, and after doing
all that, my system works well. I'm attaching the current modprobe.conf,
which was attained by doing (as you suggest) generate-modprobe.conf 
/etc/modprobe.conf, after installing initscripts, module-init-tools and
hotplug from your 2.5 page. I had the same behaviour with the previous
modprobe.conf , which was generated by
module-init-tools-0.9.13-0.pre.0.3bor on installation, and looked much
the same except without the huge string of alias'es at the top.
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alias binfmt-204 binfmt_aout
alias binfmt-263 binfmt_aout
alias binfmt-264 binfmt_aout
alias binfmt-267 binfmt_aout
alias binfmt-387 binfmt_aout
alias binfmt-332 iBCS
alias binfmt--310 binfmt_java
alias block-major-1 rd
alias block-major-2 floppy
alias block-major-3 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-7 loop
alias block-major-8 sd_mod
alias block-major-9 md
alias block-major-11 sr_mod
alias block-major-13 xd
alias block-major-15 cdu31a
alias block-major-16 gscd
alias block-major-17 optcd
alias block-major-18 sjcd
alias block-major-20 mcdx
alias block-major-22 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-23 mcd
alias block-major-24 sonycd535
alias block-major-25 sbpcd
alias block-major-26 sbpcd
alias block-major-27 sbpcd
alias block-major-29 aztcd
alias block-major-32 cm206
alias block-major-33 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-34 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-37 ide-tape
alias block-major-44 ftl
alias block-major-46 pcd
alias block-major-47 pf
alias block-major-56 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-57 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-58 lvm-mod
alias block-major-88 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-89 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-90 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-91 ide-probe-mod
alias block-major-93 nftl
alias block-major-97 pg
alias char-major-4 serial
alias char-major-5 serial
alias char-major-6 lp
alias char-major-9 st
alias char-major-10-0 busmouse
alias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse
alias char-major-10-3 atixlmouse
alias char-major-10-130 wdt
alias char-major-10-131 wdt
alias char-major-10-135 rtc
alias char-major-10-139 openprom
alias char-major-10-144 nvram
alias char-major-10-157 applicom
alias char-major-10-175 agpgart
alias char-major-10-184 microcode
alias char-major-10-200 tun
alias char-major-13 input
alias char-major-13-32 mousedev
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias char-major-19 cyclades
alias char-major-20 cyclades
alias char-major-21 sg
alias char-major-22 pcxx
alias char-major-23 pcxx
alias char-major-27 ftape
alias char-major-34 scc
alias char-major-35 tclmidi
alias char-major-36 netlink
alias char-major-37 ide-tape
alias char-major-48 riscom8
alias char-major-49 riscom8
alias char-major-57 esp
alias char-major-58 esp
alias char-major-63 kdebug
alias char-major-90 mtdchar
alias char-major-96 pt
alias char-major-99 ppdev
alias char-major-107 3dfx
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
alias char-major-109 lvm-mod
alias char-major-161 ircomm-tty
alias char-major-171 raw1394
alias char-major-195 NVdriver
alias char-major-200 vxspec
alias char-major-206 osst
alias dos msdos
alias dummy0 dummy
alias dummy1 dummy
alias 

Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 20:11, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
[...]
 
  can you quote exact message?

 Here it is :
 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Mon Jul 28
 11:08:42 2003 UTC).
 ALSA device list:
 No soundcards found


and what is now in modprobe.conf?

 then when the service is laucnhed (as for
 2.4 kernels), it says that ALSA is already running (think it's the first
 message).

 If I do a modprobe snd-intel8x0, several sound modules are loaded, then
 alsamixer see it and I can unmute the channels, but still no sound.


well, hard to say. may well be driver problem as well. I have

alias sound-card-0 snd-emu10k1
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1  { 
/sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }

last line is machine translation of

above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss

also may be difference between als versions (different channels etc) I had 
hard time to find out how to unmute my card ...

-andrey



[Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread stronne
Hi,

I downloaded and installed kernel-2.6.0-0.test2.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.
It will boot but I don't see any console text?
Kde comes up but mice don't work (usb and ps2)?
Any tips appreciated greatly :)
Where I could find mdk specified docs for 2.6?
Greetings
Stronne




Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
stronne a écrit :
Hi,

I downloaded and installed kernel-2.6.0-0.test2.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.
It will boot but I don't see any console text?
Try vga=ask in lilo.conf, and choose a low resolution (framebuffer 
problem, with my Radeon M6 and seems NVidia also)

For me, I must modprobe the 3C59x module, and ALSA seems to have worries, 
but it works ! ;o)

Fabien
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Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-14 Thread Andrey Borzenkov

 For me, I must modprobe the 3C59x module, and ALSA seems to have worries, 
 but it works ! ;o)

What is in your modprobe.conf?
What version of module-init-tools do you have?
What problems do you have with ALSA (because I do not)

do you compile your kernel or install binary form cooker?

thank you

-andrey

the more information the better





Re: [Cooker] 2.6-tips and docs

2003-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 17:17, stronne wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I downloaded and installed kernel-2.6.0-0.test2.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.
 It will boot but I don't see any console text?
 Kde comes up but mice don't work (usb and ps2)?
 Any tips appreciated greatly :)
 Where I could find mdk specified docs for 2.6?
 Greetings
 Stronne

1: set vga=normal in lilo.conf, 2: get test3, 3: you can't, 2.6 is a
contribution not a main package.
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