Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
on 11/28/00 7:09 AM, Charles R. Hurley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even after I installed all the many updates I'm still having problems with this OS. For example, I cannot connect to my http://localhost, and any other app that tries to connect to port 80 can't either. I installed the Apache updates, so why am I having such dam trouble? This might have next tonothing to do with the release issue or version numbr of your distro: * What is your security level set to? * Is your localhost entry in /etc/hosts? * Is your httpd running (check with ntsysv)? - Set your security level to medium. - /etc/rc.d/init/httpd restart See if this helps. Harry
Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
on 11/27/00 11:28 AM, stephen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: should i be glad or dismayed ?? As 'nice' as it is for MacMillan to distribute Mandrake products, with all the recent snafus (most of them deliberate decisions by marketing) I think it's about time that MacMillan be abandonned as a reliable source of distributions, and that those needing the latest Mandrake either just download it (time notwithstanding -- this is what Mandrake folks are suggesting anyway) or buy the cheap burnt CDs from providers like LinuxCentral. In fact, I received latest version CD-ROMs from their US distribution support guy (Thanks, Christopher), and those worked fine, after the MacMillan package I paid good money for proved useless. The only problem with that scenario is that because of this, Mandrake will obviously no longer make any money from those US sales it loses this way - thus, it would be preferable if Mandrake installed some system to either sell directly to end users, or accept some sort of electronic payment for those using their products, that downloaded them, and that want Mandrake to get some money. My prediction on that front : Marketing won't have *ANY* clue what to do, and will not address this. Accounting will dance around the issue, because they don't know what to do, or how to handle such income. Legal won't let them, because "That's not how things get done". (insert appropriate French translations here -- but essentially this is how this would break within a US infrastructure). Change probably won't happen until the first really bad reviews of MacMillan distros start hitting, and sales decline sharply - which could be a while since Mandrake has built some good momentum. I'd actually hope the above scenario would not play out, and they figure some way to address them... Harry
Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
on 11/27/00 3:14 PM, Vincent Danen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what Ron mistakenly called the "real 7.2" and is in fact 7.2 (what you have) Well, considering there are at least *3* versions out there, as of last count, all labeled '7.2' and all different, I think refering to something as 7.2 is no longer a clear identifier. Seriously, based on this experience, I think a better versioning or identifying scheme needs to be come up with. Harry
Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
on 11/27/00 3:12 PM, Vincent Danen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please let's not start this whole thread over again... Macmillan never released a "pre-release" 7.2 and that is that. Uhm... yes, I guess WalMart notwithstanding... ...or MacMillan's Linux-Mandrake 7.2 'complete' notwithstanding ...any others I missed? Harry
Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
on 11/27/00 9:16 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Í'm sorry, but you are misinformed. No he's not, Ron. He works for Mandrake. His word is law. His word distorts reality. His word is the truth. Heretics like you must be silenced. (Sarcasm intended) Harry
Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
on 11/28/00 5:28 PM, Vincent Danen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to seem rude, but I am no longer replying to any messages in this or any similar threads. I no longer have time for this debate. Understood, and I can see why - as long as MandrakeSoft has time to address the issues that been exposed in these threads in their next release, instead of 'not having time for them' (not in reference to you, but those responsible for the latest boneheaded decisions). Harry
Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
on 11/28/00 7:09 AM, Charles R. Hurley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pray: Let's keep Mandrake the best Linux OS ever. Let's support these great Linux and Mandrake programmers, and let's sell the truth. Agreed on all of that, but bear in mind, that the last part refers to marketing, and I thing regardless of what country they are in, asking marketing to sell the truth simply does not compute in their minds - after all, that's why they went into marketing. Harry
Re: [Cooker] HELP: Macmillan's packaging a pre-release ofMandrake 7.2
"mdk mailin list (Harry)" wrote: on 11/27/00 9:16 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Í'm sorry, but you are misinformed. No he's not, Ron. He works for Mandrake. His word is law. His word distorts reality. His word is the truth. Heretics like you must be silenced. (Sarcasm intended) G. The contents of the VERSION file seem to be the best identifier we presently have. But, yes, the theory is to run MandrakeUpdate and all the 7.2s should line up to be off the same set of RPMs. -- Regards, Ron. [AU]
