[Cooker] Installation problem - external USB used to boot, bootloader install failed
As of this morning w/ updated cooker mirror: Installed from hd, used usb external floppy to boot my sony grx, when installing bootloader get: Installation of bootloader failed. The following error occured: :part_nowrite:read:: input/output error I noticed every time I did that it tried to access my floppy, so I unplugged it and lilo went right on. -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc resume: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/resume.doc
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem#2 - shadow password not used on install
Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When installing my non root user during install he didn't land in /etc/shadow, > it used /etc/passwd to store the password, and there was no mention of the > username in /etc/shadow. oops. my fault. fixing!
[Cooker] Installation problem#2 - shadow password not used on install
When installing my non root user during install he didn't land in /etc/shadow, it used /etc/passwd to store the password, and there was no mention of the username in /etc/shadow. root - however, was in shadow fine. -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc resume: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/resume.doc
Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 16:08, Bruno Prior wrote:
> Quel Qun wrote:
> >
> > As I wrote in the bug report, I tried booting with ide0=nodma (I also
> > tried ide0=notune), but it did not change anything.
> > I don't have access to any dma setting in the BIOS.
>
> Don't know if it's supposed to be this way, but when I was having
> trouble with installing from an old CD-ROM drive and wanted to disable
> DMA on that IDE channel, ide0=nodma had no effect, but ide=nodma worked.
> Maybe nodma can only be applied across the board to all IDE channels.
> You could try it.
>
yep, yep, yep,
That fixed it, thanks a lot.
The kernel documentation is misleading because it says:
ide?= [HW] (E)IDE subsystem : config (iomem/irq), tuning or
debugging (serialize,reset,no{dma,tune,probe}) or
chipset specific parameters.
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Quel Qun wrote: As I wrote in the bug report, I tried booting with ide0=nodma (I also tried ide0=notune), but it did not change anything. I don't have access to any dma setting in the BIOS. Don't know if it's supposed to be this way, but when I was having trouble with installing from an old CD-ROM drive and wanted to disable DMA on that IDE channel, ide0=nodma had no effect, but ide=nodma worked. Maybe nodma can only be applied across the board to all IDE channels. You could try it. Cheers, Bruno Prior
Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 11:07, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 20 March 2003 19:02, Quel Qun wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:15, Duncan wrote: > > > On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below: > > > > I have the following PC configuration > > > > Processor AMD Athlon 1800 > > > > HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB > > > > > > [] > > > > > > > When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD > > > > partition. > > > > > > > > However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine > > and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions). > > 2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check. > > > > This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and > > does not boot either. > > > > There is no way I can update this machine. > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3388 > try to disable dma, this worked for me As I wrote in the bug report, I tried booting with ide0=nodma (I also tried ide0=notune), but it did not change anything. I don't have access to any dma setting in the BIOS. -- _ _ _ _ | |_| | |_/ | | / / -_) | / / | |_\_\___|_|_\_\_| @ sbcglobal.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem
On Thu 20 Mar 2003 11:02, Quel Qun posted as excerpted below: > However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine > and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions). > 2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check. > > This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and > does not boot either. That's a bit interesting. I filter subjects with kernel in them as I use the stock kernel, not Mdk's, compiled myself with some stuff directly compiled, not modularized, and don't do pre's, only full releases of stable. Thus, I'm still on 2.4.20, and with all the stuff I've seen flying around about 21-pre-whatever, I'm beginning to thing that's a wise decision. As for ReiserFS, have you always used the no-tail option? Here, I dumped no-tail and initrd some time ago, with no problems so far direct booting ReiserFS on all partitions, from LILO directly to a boot partition with Reiser on it, without the no-tail option either. Of course, as I'm using Reiser native, I compiled it directly into the kernel, rather than as a module, as well. Perhaps that's it? As I said, tho, no problems whatsoever with it, here. However, it's possible that .21preX has problems, perhaps with initrd and module loading for that, perhaps related to no-tail or the lack of it, perhaps something else. I suppose that's why they call it pre, altho it could be a Mdk kernel patch conflict, rather than something in the main kernel. Has anyone looked into whether they have the same problems with the kernel.org mainline kernel, and if so, at what official pre patch level it triggers? (As mentioned, I normally filter subject lines w/ kernel in them, so don't change the subject to include that if you want me to continue following the thread. Otherwise, whatever.) -- Duncan "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 March 2003 19:02, Quel Qun wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:15, Duncan wrote: > > On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below: > > > I have the following PC configuration > > > Processor AMD Athlon 1800 > > > HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB > > > > [] > > > > > When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD > > > partition. > > > > > > Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake > > > drivers? > > > > Hard drives are pretty much standardized, now. They are either EIDE or > > SCSI, and take fairly generic drivers, unless you have some sort of > > hardware RAID, which can be an issue, but that's not the hard drive, it's > > the RAID controller that's the issue. > > > > It may be an issue with an error on your current partitions, however. > > I'd suggest either erasing them and starting clean, if you don't have a > > Windows or other partition you want to keep, or running scandisk and > > defrag (assuming Windows) to make sure what you have is as error free as > > possible before going further. You may also wish to try something like > > the proprietary-ware Partition Magic. I had good experiences with them, > > b4 I switched off of proprietary-ware and onto software libre such as > > Mandrake. I'd bought another product, Partition It, which basically > > screwed things up, but Partition Magic was able to fix the problem > > without me having to know exactly what it was and get into the details. > > > > That said, this is the Cooker list, for betas, not the install help or > > Mandrake Expert forum. Mandrake 9.1 just came out, so cooker would be > > going on 9.2 now, and you are asking here about 9.0? I'd help you if I > > could, but I'm on this list and not the install list for a reason -- I > > don't know that much about install problems. Therefore, the guess above > > about it being an error on the current partition, with the suggestions > > following it, is about the best I can do. > > However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine > and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions). > 2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check. > > This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and > does not boot either. > > There is no way I can update this machine. > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3388 try to disable dma, this worked for me - -- Regards, Per Øyvind Karlsen Sintrax Solutions http://www.sintrax.net - +47 41681061 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ehFrv8F7V9JOSuURApHFAJ4hvpIBrQ89f9nWDrntEwfafEdW/QCgwkbu KDgBxU6GiSdXiFZjp91+Wlw= =Xkwi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:15, Duncan wrote: > On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below: > > I have the following PC configuration > > Processor AMD Athlon 1800 > > HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB > [] > > When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD partition. > > > > Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake > > drivers? > > Hard drives are pretty much standardized, now. They are either EIDE or SCSI, > and take fairly generic drivers, unless you have some sort of hardware RAID, > which can be an issue, but that's not the hard drive, it's the RAID > controller that's the issue. > > It may be an issue with an error on your current partitions, however. I'd > suggest either erasing them and starting clean, if you don't have a Windows > or other partition you want to keep, or running scandisk and defrag (assuming > Windows) to make sure what you have is as error free as possible before going > further. You may also wish to try something like the proprietary-ware > Partition Magic. I had good experiences with them, b4 I switched off of > proprietary-ware and onto software libre such as Mandrake. I'd bought > another product, Partition It, which basically screwed things up, but > Partition Magic was able to fix the problem without me having to know exactly > what it was and get into the details. > > That said, this is the Cooker list, for betas, not the install help or > Mandrake Expert forum. Mandrake 9.1 just came out, so cooker would be going > on 9.2 now, and you are asking here about 9.0? I'd help you if I could, but > I'm on this list and not the install list for a reason -- I don't know that > much about install problems. Therefore, the guess above about it being an > error on the current partition, with the suggestions following it, is about > the best I can do. However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions). 2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check. This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and does not boot either. There is no way I can update this machine. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3388 -- _ _ _ _ | |_| | |_/ | | / / -_) | / / | |_\_\___|_|_\_\_| @ sbcglobal.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem
On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below: > I have the following PC configuration > Processor AMD Athlon 1800 > HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB [] > When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD partition. > > Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake > drivers? Hard drives are pretty much standardized, now. They are either EIDE or SCSI, and take fairly generic drivers, unless you have some sort of hardware RAID, which can be an issue, but that's not the hard drive, it's the RAID controller that's the issue. It may be an issue with an error on your current partitions, however. I'd suggest either erasing them and starting clean, if you don't have a Windows or other partition you want to keep, or running scandisk and defrag (assuming Windows) to make sure what you have is as error free as possible before going further. You may also wish to try something like the proprietary-ware Partition Magic. I had good experiences with them, b4 I switched off of proprietary-ware and onto software libre such as Mandrake. I'd bought another product, Partition It, which basically screwed things up, but Partition Magic was able to fix the problem without me having to know exactly what it was and get into the details. That said, this is the Cooker list, for betas, not the install help or Mandrake Expert forum. Mandrake 9.1 just came out, so cooker would be going on 9.2 now, and you are asking here about 9.0? I'd help you if I could, but I'm on this list and not the install list for a reason -- I don't know that much about install problems. Therefore, the guess above about it being an error on the current partition, with the suggestions following it, is about the best I can do. -- Duncan "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem
I have the following PC configuration Processor AMD Athlon 1800 HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB videoSIS 650_651_M650_740 DVD 52x BDV 316C CD RW LG 48x12x48 HL-DT-ST GCE 8400B Net device SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter Modem HSP56 MR Controller open host sis 7001 da PCI a USBSIS 7002 USB 2.0 Enhanced host controller Controller PCI IDE SIS When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD partition. Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake drivers? Thank In advance _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
[Cooker] Installation problem install XFree86
Hi, I get teh following problems when install XFree86-4.blah after rpm -e and then -U installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-4.2.0-12mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## moving /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb to /etc/X11/xkb linking to ../../../../etc/X11/xkb moving /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled to /var/lib/xkb linking to ../../../../../var/lib/xkb moving /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rstart to /etc/X11/rstart linking to ../../../../etc/X11/rstart moving /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver to /etc/X11/xserver linking to ../../../../etc/X11/xserver moving /etc/X11/xdm/authdir to /var/lib/xdm linking to ../../../var/lib/xdm XFree86 ## and after rpm -Uvh --force [~]# l /etc/X11/X lrwxr-xr-x1 root root 16 Jun 2 14:37 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/X You can't see it but that symlink is dead. [~]# rpm -Uvh --force /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-4.2.0-12mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:XFree86### [100%] [~]# l /etc/X11/XUnable to open file "/lang.h" /etc/menu-methods//gnome-mime-data-applications: Aborting Update-menus[1470]: Script /etc/menu-methods//gnome-mime-data-applications returned error status 1. Unable to open file "/lang.h" /etc/menu-methods//gnome-mime-data-keys: Aborting Update-menus[1470]: Script /etc/menu-methods//gnome-mime-data-keys returned error status 1. Unable to open file "/lang.h" /etc/menu-methods//icewm: Aborting Update-menus[1470]: Script /etc/menu-methods//icewm returned error status 1. Unable to open file "/lang.h" /etc/menu-methods//sawfish: Aborting Update-menus[1470]: Script /etc/menu-methods//sawfish returned error status 1. Unable to open file "/lang.h" /etc/menu-methods//twm: Aborting Update-menus[1470]: Script /etc/menu-methods//twm returned error status 1. Groetjes, Han. -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
[Cooker] installation problem(s)
Hello, I tested another installation of current 7.2beta (rsync on ftp.sunet.se 1 hour ago). Some remarks : - what is this little message box : Licence - No warranty [Accept / Refuse]. I Hope the final message will be less ... terse :-) Anyway, it should be translated (french in my case). - The Test-your-mouse-window's message is not translated in french (don't know for other languages). - After partitionning and formating, the installation failed with the following message : "Unable to parse /mnt/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.hd1.cz" and the return to the partition utility, with impossibility to unmoune /dev/hdb6 (my root partition). Pascal
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Dr Michael Powell PhD wrote: > > didn't like HTML, third you didn't like my PGP public key used as a > signature. I have never posted anything against anyone personally on > Mikey > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- > Version: PGP 6.5.8 > > mQGiBDnEJgsRBADLc6G3QDmMQcEWzMAAOs152Uc/xvv8rQA+mLwHW2pXTnsB7OoL > BeOVwgrtWziBRraCOg+0xzq0lK7ddc4gKvAxO09F+nl5e7aNeZZL7FUR9fB63Luk > F6iNJ4ibskM9rVZWZvlz3qtlQU3PnWOBoWPmMxXGC8JJbfcNtbnJXELMaQCg/84u > zBqyMvyRKSH1Gv1yOBw3nSUD/2NXiA5kCAAEVaRLILKegslWHiVWm3ar7S4F2FKk > UlPi39lZJoiIPOeDPesbQYmfpyFgVgqDfnEGfbTSoEfQJmoJ/jk0PTftdijLK+sa > 5aSyk2gCcL13LUQN6v1R+M9R5Z9xFCA9NgBennfEfXPaqCz3hCWvgZQnfBvNbnBR > XYtMBAC2dEVdkRq5FNmh6WOF+WtTbOYxBLSuOAAbRzqHAjccdRdpdAPxyA9Kkadc > 8zNeBvzBHVI3ARTOcsBx48/VGfDpMTgfUJcH0epY0UAcaNT6Mg2+ZVsgnJgsPgDD > Dd43MDQUeFoT1TfOLWtTOT3lstDTxeapeOFZOYfdzi6JwroKzbQabWljaGFlbHBv > d2VsbDxyb2NtYWlsLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAjnEJgsECwMBAgIZAQAKCRBWomMU > +Eai662EAKDBENEM0WfxNn7xYqBYB33cRaaqSwCdG/sHKPc8vHYchkBQ6lHtqdr0 > Bf+5Ag0EOcQmERAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65Szgg2gGnVqMU > 6Y9AVfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09jdvOmeFXklnN > /biudE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brwv0YAWCvl9Ij9 > WE5J280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySPAQ/ClWxiNjrt I would like to point out that your PGP key in your signature is useless anyway as it seems to be truncated. This was probably done by the program you use to send email. Perhaps it is time for you to pay another $1e10 dollars for another upgrade which may, or may not, fix the problem. I would also like to point out that, in general, flaming a mandrake developer on a mandrake developer mailing list is useless and stupid. -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Pixel wrote: > David Faure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > >Dr Michael Powell PhD a écrit : > > >> Dear Sir, > > >> You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the > > >> problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the > > > > kmail ? It handles HTML perfectly (for reading). > > speaking about this, kmail in kde1 had pbs with this outlook crap: > alternative together with an attachment :-/ Seems to be working now. I think it was fixed about 7 months ago in kde2 alpha. (If I remember right). -Chris
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
David Faure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: > >Dr Michael Powell PhD a écrit : > >> Dear Sir, > >> You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the > >> problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the > > kmail ? It handles HTML perfectly (for reading). speaking about this, kmail in kde1 had pbs with this outlook crap: alternative together with an attachment :-/
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Dr Michael Powell PhD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Dear Sir; > Maybe I'm missing something here but doesn't Mandrake include > Netscape & Messenger to be used! I may be wrong here. I must carry the No you are right we do. > equation farther and assume Mozilla is wrong to use also. I read and It is an option. It means you can set it up for friendliness with MS-like mailing lists, and disable it here! nice. > post to this board everyday. First you didn't like my title, second you > didn't like HTML, third you didn't like my PGP public key used as a > signature. I have never posted anything against anyone personally on I personally expressed myself only on your HTML postings. My message was not aggressive, and was just asking you to remove it, with a nice "please" to not be rude. Then you answered in an aggressive way, telling we are just not in sync with today's technology. Of what we all try to explain you why we don't agree. And, no, for the PGP key, please leave it as it is: it will help my scoring to perform more accurately. :-)) > this list. I assumed it was here for the sharing of ideas and answers to > help all of our readers become more informed and articulate. Now it > seems to be a whipping post for, as one poster called it, "netiquet" > whatever that is. I thought we were free people with freedom to make > personal choices without being slammed. Well, do you know this is a developper's mailing list? if you seek for some information and stuff like that, you should probably use "newbie" or "expert" mailing list. And of course you ARE free to behave as you like and send HTML stuff -- as we are free to slam you when we feel you don't respect our simple rules of efficiency. > If there are rules to participate in this forum, they certainly > should be posted regularly as their are new people joining everyday. I'm sorry, I wrote the cooker-faq but forgot to precise you should avoid HTML postings. [actually it seemed too obvious..] > Most from the Windows World with Signing keys and HTML E-mail composers. Most from the Windows World are brainless? FYI many posters on this ML use Outlook Express, for various reasons, but they do not post with HTML.. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: >Dr Michael Powell PhD a écrit : >> Dear Sir, >> You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the >> problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the kmail ? It handles HTML perfectly (for reading). -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Also sprach Dr Michael Powell PhD : > Dear Sir; > Maybe I'm missing something here but doesn't Mandrake include > Netscape & Messenger to be used! I may be wrong here. I must carry the > equation farther and assume Mozilla is wrong to use also. I read and > post to this board everyday. First you didn't like my title, second you > didn't like HTML, third you didn't like my PGP public key used as a > signature. I have never posted anything against anyone personally on > this list. I assumed it was here for the sharing of ideas and answers to > help all of our readers become more informed and articulate. Now it > seems to be a whipping post for, as one poster called it, "netiquet" > whatever that is. I thought we were free people with freedom to make > personal choices without being slammed. Just have a look in this mailing list archive, as i've already suggested to you, and you'll find this famous document, whose correct english name is netethic, and that supposed to be part of the minimal culture of any linux user. You'll also learn that removing Netscape from main distribution is a top level priority, not for its ability to send HTML mails, but for it being not free software (supposing that you know what free software is). You never attacked anyone in particular, but you're getting on everyone's nerves with arrogant statements (go buy a satellite connexion, wake up and use HTML, etc...), pretentious title (everybody has a PHD now, even me :-) ), and ridiculously mail use incompetence, that i'm very surprised nobody flamed you already. And the worst is that you don't even seem to take care of what patient people try to explain you. Freedom of choice doesn't means freedom of imposing them to others. > If there are rules to participate in this forum, they certainly > should be posted regularly as their are new people joining everyday. > Most from the Windows World with Signing keys and HTML E-mail composers. It is not mandrake-newbie list here, it's cooker : a list for debugging next Mandrake's distribution. So it is expected people coming here know the very base of linux culture. -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Dr Michael Powell PhD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > Dear Sir, > > You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the > > problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the > > world uses HTML> > > The rest of the world is blown up by the sucking Microsoft domination that > puts HTML as default with their damn Outlook Express stuff. > > FYI, the Internet has not waited for Microsoft to invent stuff like email, > and from long time, till long time, the basic logic was, is, and will be > to post email as normal text. > > Email is used to transmit information; it's focused on the meaning of the > information, not the way it is presented; you don't need to transmit > sucking useless information through email. Use the File Transfer Protocol, > a.k.a FTP for that. > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ Dear Sir; Maybe I'm missing something here but doesn't Mandrake include Netscape & Messenger to be used! I may be wrong here. I must carry the equation farther and assume Mozilla is wrong to use also. I read and post to this board everyday. First you didn't like my title, second you didn't like HTML, third you didn't like my PGP public key used as a signature. I have never posted anything against anyone personally on this list. I assumed it was here for the sharing of ideas and answers to help all of our readers become more informed and articulate. Now it seems to be a whipping post for, as one poster called it, "netiquet" whatever that is. I thought we were free people with freedom to make personal choices without being slammed. If there are rules to participate in this forum, they certainly should be posted regularly as their are new people joining everyday. Most from the Windows World with Signing keys and HTML E-mail composers. Very Sincerely, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGP 6.5.8 mQGiBDnEJgsRBADLc6G3QDmMQcEWzMAAOs152Uc/xvv8rQA+mLwHW2pXTnsB7OoL BeOVwgrtWziBRraCOg+0xzq0lK7ddc4gKvAxO09F+nl5e7aNeZZL7FUR9fB63Luk F6iNJ4ibskM9rVZWZvlz3qtlQU3PnWOBoWPmMxXGC8JJbfcNtbnJXELMaQCg/84u zBqyMvyRKSH1Gv1yOBw3nSUD/2NXiA5kCAAEVaRLILKegslWHiVWm3ar7S4F2FKk UlPi39lZJoiIPOeDPesbQYmfpyFgVgqDfnEGfbTSoEfQJmoJ/jk0PTftdijLK+sa 5aSyk2gCcL13LUQN6v1R+M9R5Z9xFCA9NgBennfEfXPaqCz3hCWvgZQnfBvNbnBR XYtMBAC2dEVdkRq5FNmh6WOF+WtTbOYxBLSuOAAbRzqHAjccdRdpdAPxyA9Kkadc 8zNeBvzBHVI3ARTOcsBx48/VGfDpMTgfUJcH0epY0UAcaNT6Mg2+ZVsgnJgsPgDD Dd43MDQUeFoT1TfOLWtTOT3lstDTxeapeOFZOYfdzi6JwroKzbQabWljaGFlbHBv d2VsbDxyb2NtYWlsLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAjnEJgsECwMBAgIZAQAKCRBWomMU +Eai662EAKDBENEM0WfxNn7xYqBYB33cRaaqSwCdG/sHKPc8vHYchkBQ6lHtqdr0 Bf+5Ag0EOcQmERAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65Szgg2gGnVqMU 6Y9AVfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09jdvOmeFXklnN /biudE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brwv0YAWCvl9Ij9 WE5J280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySPAQ/ClWxiNjrt
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Submitted 17-Sep-00 by Dr Michael Powell PhD: > Dear Sir, > You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the > problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the > world uses HTML> "[T]he rest of the world" does not use HTML, only mass marketers and people who use underpowered clients like Netscape and Outlook which use glitz to cover their lack of features. HTML messages from these individuals is typically sent in a multi-part/alternative format that actually sends the message twice, consuming more than twice the bandwidth of a plaintext posting. If you had to deal with slow connections on old modems using rural phone lines, you wouldn't be quite so arrogant about this matter. I receive several hundred emails a day and it takes far longer to download the messages than I would care to admit. It costs you nothing to send in plaintext, but it costs me three cents/minute plus ISP charges for my connection, and I am certain that Mandrake pays considerably for the bandwidth for the lists. Please, use the extra formatting on your own dime. -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request Perhaps no person can be a poet, or even enjoy poetry without a certain unsoundness of mind. -- Thomas Macaulay
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Dr Michael Powell PhD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Dear Sir, > You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the > problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the > world uses HTML> The rest of the world is blown up by the sucking Microsoft domination that puts HTML as default with their damn Outlook Express stuff. FYI, the Internet has not waited for Microsoft to invent stuff like email, and from long time, till long time, the basic logic was, is, and will be to post email as normal text. Email is used to transmit information; it's focused on the meaning of the information, not the way it is presented; you don't need to transmit sucking useless information through email. Use the File Transfer Protocol, a.k.a FTP for that. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Dr Michael Powell PhD a écrit : > Dear Sir, > You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the > problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the > world uses HTML> And the rest of the world uses Microsoft too... Serioudly, what are you doing on a linux beta-tester list ? How about a killfile for this list ? -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Dr Michael Powell PhD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the > problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the > world uses HTML> wow, you wanna die? ;p
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > "James Angi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > > > > > > > please don't post in HTML. > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ Dear Sir, You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the world uses HTML> Sincerely, mickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGP 6.5.8 mQGiBDnEJgsRBADLc6G3QDmMQcEWzMAAOs152Uc/xvv8rQA+mLwHW2pXTnsB7OoL BeOVwgrtWziBRraCOg+0xzq0lK7ddc4gKvAxO09F+nl5e7aNeZZL7FUR9fB63Luk F6iNJ4ibskM9rVZWZvlz3qtlQU3PnWOBoWPmMxXGC8JJbfcNtbnJXELMaQCg/84u zBqyMvyRKSH1Gv1yOBw3nSUD/2NXiA5kCAAEVaRLILKegslWHiVWm3ar7S4F2FKk UlPi39lZJoiIPOeDPesbQYmfpyFgVgqDfnEGfbTSoEfQJmoJ/jk0PTftdijLK+sa 5aSyk2gCcL13LUQN6v1R+M9R5Z9xFCA9NgBennfEfXPaqCz3hCWvgZQnfBvNbnBR XYtMBAC2dEVdkRq5FNmh6WOF+WtTbOYxBLSuOAAbRzqHAjccdRdpdAPxyA9Kkadc 8zNeBvzBHVI3ARTOcsBx48/VGfDpMTgfUJcH0epY0UAcaNT6Mg2+ZVsgnJgsPgDD Dd43MDQUeFoT1TfOLWtTOT3lstDTxeapeOFZOYfdzi6JwroKzbQabWljaGFlbHBv d2VsbDxyb2NtYWlsLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAjnEJgsECwMBAgIZAQAKCRBWomMU +Eai662EAKDBENEM0WfxNn7xYqBYB33cRaaqSwCdG/sHKPc8vHYchkBQ6lHtqdr0 Bf+5Ag0EOcQmERAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65Szgg2gGnVqMU 6Y9AVfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09jdvOmeFXklnN /biudE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brwv0YAWCvl9Ij9 WE5J280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySPAQ/ClWxiNjrt
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
"James Angi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > > please don't post in HTML. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
"James Angi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > During installation right before the partitioning part I get this error: "An > error occured. Can't call method 'ask_warn' on an undefined value". It happens > in any installation class (recommended, expert...) and it also happens in either it is fixed, thanks.
[Cooker] Installation problem
I just downloaded beta2 and subscribed to the mailing list, so my apologies if this is a repeat. During installation right before the partitioning part I get this error: "An error occured. Can't call method 'ask_warn' on an undefined value". It happens in any installation class (recommended, expert...) and it also happens in either graphical or text mode install. I have a Gateway Solo 9150 laptop with Win98SE on hda1, and about 3GB of free space after that first primary partition. I used to dual boot with Mandrake 7.1, and it worked fine. I backed up all my data and deleted that partition so I could test 7.2 beta2. Any help appreciated. James Angi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Installation problem.
Hi, I managed to download the ISO (version 2) on this slow internet connection. :) I put the ISO on CD and boot my machine with this CD, so far no problem, when the installation procedure reaches the graphical part my screen get have white. This is my problem, i can't see a things from the installation. I also tried to install Oxygen from within Windows 98 (Linux4win), when trying this i had no (major) problems with the graphical installation. After it install and booting my PC in Linux mode it gave an error and Linux stopped. Sorry I forgot to note the error, but any way I don't want to install Linux under windows, I just want only Linux on my machine. I'm using a PC (K6-II based) with a SIS6326 video chip (onboard). If you need more information on my system configuration just ask. I hope there is an easy fix for this problem, I still remember all the problems I had to configure this video chip under Mandrake 6.0 :( Tanks, Hans Van Leemputten
