Re: [Cooker] Mesa-packages
On 20011030 Han wrote: John Haywood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: --so looks asthough you might be missing the Mesa package Seems like that solved it. All manuals state that if you have a nvidia card you should not install the Mesa-package. Because of the glx-libraries that will conflict. Well if I get into trouble later well sort it out. I think you only should install Mesa if you have XFree 3.3.x. With XFree 4.1.0, you already get a libGL. So the two possible setups are: - XF 3.3 + libMesaGL + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut - XF 4.1 + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut (same for the devel packages). The Mesa- package contains control utils and config files for the DRI implementation of Mesa. I do not know if it is needed for the version included with XFree 4.1. And of course if you install nVidia drivers, you do not need the libMesaGL package, nor the libGL.so.xxx files installed with XFree4. The nVidia installer wipes out the latter. -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.13-ac5-beo #1 SMP Tue Oct 30 00:10:00 CET 2001 i686
Re: [Cooker] Mesa-packages
J . A . Magallon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 20011030 Han wrote: John Haywood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: --so looks asthough you might be missing the Mesa package Seems like that solved it. All manuals state that if you have a nvidia card you should not install the Mesa-package. Because of the glx-libraries that will conflict. Well if I get into trouble later well sort it out. I think you only should install Mesa if you have XFree 3.3.x. With XFree 4.1.0, you already get a libGL. So the two possible setups are: - XF 3.3 + libMesaGL + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut - XF 4.1 + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut (same for the devel packages). The Mesa- package contains control utils and config files for the DRI implementation of Mesa. I do not know if it is needed for the version included with XFree 4.1. And of course if you install nVidia drivers, you do not need the libMesaGL package, nor the libGL.so.xxx files installed with XFree4. The nVidia installer wipes out the latter. Now you remind me of the other variation I thought of... at least I needed the Mesa-package to be able to update, ahem it seemed so. Yes the variation without Mesa.rpm also works fine and I still don't like ladies with shotguns. [~]$ rpm -qa|grep Mesa Mesa-demos-3.5-2mdk libMesaGLU1-3.5-2mdk libMesaglut3-3.5-2mdk libMesaGLU1-devel-3.5-2mdk libMesaglut3-devel-3.5-2mdk The glut-libraries seem to be unimportant for quake3 but what the hell. Anyway this seems to bee a much more consistant way of packaging the Mesa-stuff. Cya, Han.
Re: [Cooker] Mesa-packages
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:05, you wrote: Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The glut-libraries seem to be unimportant for quake3 but what the hell. Anyway this seems to bee a much more consistant way of packaging the Mesa-stuff. Thanks, glut3 is problably not needed by a lot of GL stuff (especially games). This allows reducing potential error and allow using other library without too much error (libGLU for example), this one comes with libGLU 1.3 from SGI incorporated with Mesa 3.5. François. So, in summary, what packages are needed with what? For example, as J . A . Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, is this combo correct? : I think you only should install Mesa if you have XFree 3.3.x. With XFree 4.1.0, you already get a libGL. So the two possible setups are: - XF 3.3 + libMesaGL + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut - XF 4.1 + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut (same for the devel packages). And further, is this true for *all* video cards (hidden agenda, I have a 3dfx G), or just non-Glide? cheers -- john in syd
Re: [Cooker] Mesa-packages
On 20011030 John Haywood wrote: For example, as J . A . Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, is this combo correct? : I think you only should install Mesa if you have XFree 3.3.x. With XFree 4.1.0, you already get a libGL. So the two possible setups are: - XF 3.3 + libMesaGL + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut - XF 4.1 + libMesaGLU + libMesaglut (same for the devel packages). And further, is this true for *all* video cards (hidden agenda, I have a 3dfx G), or just non-Glide? In short, XFree-4.1.0 includes Mesa-3.4.2. See http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES2.html#4 So the status of 3D is that of Mesa 3.4.2, apart from bugfixes. So it means it uses the DRI infraestructure. Take a look at: http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES5.html#25 What I do not know is if you can overwrite XFree's Mesa 3.4.2 with 3.5 and live happy Experts ? -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.13-ac5-beo #1 SMP Tue Oct 30 00:10:00 CET 2001 i686
Re: [Cooker] Mesa-packages
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:24, you wrote: Ok let me get this straight cause I still don't quitte understand what has to be done: When I try to update the Mesa-rpms I get: error: failed dependencies: Mesa-common = 3.4.2 is needed by Mesa-common-devel-3.4.2-2mdk This is the list of new rpms: libMesaGLU1-3.5-2mdk.i586.rpm libMesaglut3-3.5-2mdk.i586.rpm And this is the list of allready installed rpms: Mesa-common-devel-3.4.2-2mdk Mesa-common-3.4.2-2mdk Now what is the right way to get it straight? On my system - Mesa is at version 3.5.2, and there are no more Mesa-common packages: [root@thang john]# rpm -qa | grep -i mesa |sort libMesaGL1-3.5-2mdk libMesaGLU1-3.5-2mdk libMesaglut3-3.5-2mdk Mesa-3.5-2mdk xmms-mesa-1.2.5-5mdk --so looks asthough you might be missing the Mesa package -- john in syd
Re: [Cooker] Mesa-packages
John Haywood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: --so looks asthough you might be missing the Mesa package Seems like that solved it. All manuals state that if you have a nvidia card you should not install the Mesa-package. Because of the glx-libraries that will conflict. Well if I get into trouble later well sort it out. Cya, Han.
[Cooker] Mesa-packages
Ok let me get this straight cause I still don't quitte understand what has to be done: When I try to update the Mesa-rpms I get: error: failed dependencies: Mesa-common = 3.4.2 is needed by Mesa-common-devel-3.4.2-2mdk This is the list of new rpms: libMesaGLU1-3.5-2mdk.i586.rpm libMesaglut3-3.5-2mdk.i586.rpm And this is the list of allready installed rpms: Mesa-common-devel-3.4.2-2mdk Mesa-common-3.4.2-2mdk Now what is the right way to get it straight? Cya, Han.
