[Cooker] New distro install idea to attract more users

2000-05-28 Thread Con Kolivas 

Now I've installed Mandrake for about 6 people. These people are all windows 
converts who are not very good with PCs.  What they want and should have 
when they use their machines are much less than the recommended install 
offers, yet more than the minimum install.

These people need all of KDE and no other wms installed. They also need all 
the *drak* configuration software, netscape communicator and some sort of 
office suite. They need NOTHING else. Unfortunately it takes quite some time 
for me to filter through all the other unneeded stuff whenever I install 
Mandrake for them.

Lesson: newbies need one fully featured window manager with configuration 
utilities, a web browser/email client and then they can install an office 
suite (eg star office, corel etc.) Everything else confuses them AND takes 
up unnecessary space.

It would be great to have a "BASIC DESKTOP" install which did this (ie about 
as much as you get with a pre-installed windows PC.)

regards,
Con.

Keep up the good work.


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Re: [Cooker] New distro install idea to attract more users

2000-05-28 Thread Sim 

 Lesson: newbies need one fully featured window manager with configuration 
 utilities, a web browser/email client and then they can install an office 
 suite (eg star office, corel etc.) Everything else confuses them AND takes 
 up unnecessary space.

I agree with this - no one needs more than 1 email client, and yet it seems
like 4 get installed be default and another 10 are waiting in the wings (OK I
know I'm exagerating, but ...).

Simon

Re: [Cooker] New distro install idea to attract more users

2000-05-28 Thread Pixel 

"Con Kolivas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now I've installed Mandrake for about 6 people. These people are all windows 
 converts who are not very good with PCs.  What they want and should have 
 when they use their machines are much less than the recommended install 
 offers, yet more than the minimum install.
 
 These people need all of KDE and no other wms installed. They also need all 
 the *drak* configuration software, netscape communicator and some sort of 
 office suite. They need NOTHING else. Unfortunately it takes quite some time 
 for me to filter through all the other unneeded stuff whenever I install 
 Mandrake for them.

mainly install in "Recommended" (is now "Automated") on a 400MB partition and
that will do it :)

Re: [Cooker] New distro install idea to attract more users

2000-05-28 Thread Con Kolivas 

  These people need all of KDE and no other wms installed. They also need 
all
  the *drak* configuration software, netscape communicator and some sort 
of
  office suite. They need NOTHING else. Unfortunately it takes quite some 
time
  for me to filter through all the other unneeded stuff whenever I install
  Mandrake for them.

mainly install in "Recommended" (is now "Automated") on a 400MB partition 
and
that will do it :)



Thanks, I'll try that. I've been doing expert installs since I was the one 
installing it (I'm no expert but I like to think I am :-)). Didn't consider 
that recommended might be just what I needed. It doesn't let me fiddle with 
the other settings though... Probably a good thing eh?

regards,
Con

Keep up the good work!


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Re: [Cooker] New distro install idea to attract more users

2000-05-28 Thread diablero 

On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 10:40:14PM +0200, Pixel wrote:
 "Con Kolivas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Now I've installed Mandrake for about 6 people. These people are all windows 
  converts who are not very good with PCs.  What they want and should have 
  when they use their machines are much less than the recommended install 
  offers, yet more than the minimum install.
  
  These people need all of KDE and no other wms installed. They also need all 
  the *drak* configuration software, netscape communicator and some sort of 
  office suite. They need NOTHING else. Unfortunately it takes quite some time 
  for me to filter through all the other unneeded stuff whenever I install 
  Mandrake for them.
 
 mainly install in "Recommended" (is now "Automated") on a 400MB partition and
 that will do it :)

I just have a discussion with a SuSe user which recently switch to a mandrake.
He regrets Yast (a all-in-one conf tool). I know there is drakxtools. It
will be a great idea to integreate a link to it in all default wm conf.
 

-- 
Thomas Poindessous
EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.epita.fr/~epx