Re: [Cooker] Re: A couple of kernel issues
"Brian J. Murrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this is not true. if you give hdX=ide-scsi to the kernel, it works I just tried this and you are right it does work. Not that I doubted it you but I am/was sure I tried that at one time. Guess I must be recalling incorrectly. Yep, the problem with that is the kernel is not really made for this, In what way? I have been doing this since RH 5.0 at least. Not that it's RH specific of course, just used as a time reference. what i'm meaning is that few people uses ide as module. Either they don't use it or have it builtin the kernel. but as you're saying, i must be wrong...
Re: [Cooker] Re: A couple of kernel issues
from the quill of Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] on scroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, and this is a pain to generate with the normal kenrel rpm (because i will have to list each modules). I don't think I follow. In my kernel rpm I have a "detour" in the kernel build to go build freeswan after which it goes back to the kernel building. When the build for a kernel type X (where X can be fb, smp, secure) is done, why not just "move" the resulting ipsec.o to ipsec.o-X and have ipsec.o-fb and ipsec.o-smp, etc. in the freeswan package and link or move (or whatever) it into the modules directory on installation depeneding on what kernel is running? on the boot you have a block of memory reserved for the bios and after you store the whole unziped initrd with unzipped kernel in memory. Yes, but what I am saying is that I was under the impression that once the kernel is booted and running, that block of memory that the initrd disk image was on is freed back to the kernel. From the initrd.txt in linux/Documentation/initrd.txt: Operation - When using initrd, the system boots as follows: 1) the boot loader loads the kernel and the initial RAM disk 2) the kernel converts initrd into a "normal" RAM disk and frees the memory used by initrd 3) initrd is mounted read-write as root 4) /linuxrc is executed (this can be any valid executable, including shell scripts; it is run with uid 0 and can do basically everything init can do) 5) when linuxrc terminates, the "real" root file system is mounted 6) if a directory /initrd exists, the initrd is moved there otherwise, initrd is unmounted 7) the usual boot sequence (e.g. invocation of /sbin/init) is performed on the root file system Further thots? b. -- Brian J. Murrell InterLinx Support Services, Inc. North Vancouver, B.C. 604 983 UNIX Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD
Re: [Cooker] Re: A couple of kernel issues
"Brian J. Murrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Different? As in different spec file/SRPM? How come? I have it merged into the standard Mandrake spec file and it works perfectamundo. The only thing I have not done is isolate the ipsec.o module to the freeswan package and not include it with the kernels. That would be required to keep the resulting kernels free from crypto and be able to put the freeswan completely on the crypto site. Ok, but how you do for different kernel ? the ipsec.o should be compiled for smp/fb/secure/standar or maybe it's only for secure kernel, right ? you want always to use initrd ? Yeah, essentially. :-) I think it's expensive for low memory machine. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Chmouel
[Cooker] Re: A couple of kernel issues
from the quill of Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] on scroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] this is not true. if you give hdX=ide-scsi to the kernel, it works I just tried this and you are right it does work. Not that I doubted it you but I am/was sure I tried that at one time. Guess I must be recalling incorrectly. Yep, the problem with that is the kernel is not really made for this, In what way? I have been doing this since RH 5.0 at least. Not that it's RH specific of course, just used as a time reference. and less tested that way. Really? Meaning by Mandrake or in general? Everybody who does SCSI for their boot disk probably uses it, no? This is what i'm trying to do for the kernel boot and i don't get access to /proc/ide/ideX for example I am not too familiar with the IDE driver and don't know what's supposed to be in /proc/ide/ideX, but with my "ide as a module" kernel I am running right now, I don't have it either. b. -- Brian J. Murrell InterLinx Support Services, Inc. North Vancouver, B.C. 604 983 UNIX Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD
[Cooker] Re: A couple of kernel issues
from the quill of Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] on scroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes i would like to do this but we need a different kernel package for ipsec, and i don't have the time to maintain it. Different? As in different spec file/SRPM? How come? I have it merged into the standard Mandrake spec file and it works perfectamundo. The only thing I have not done is isolate the ipsec.o module to the freeswan package and not include it with the kernels. That would be required to keep the resulting kernels free from crypto and be able to put the freeswan completely on the crypto site. you want always to use initrd ? Yeah, essentially. :-) b. -- Brian J. Murrell InterLinx Support Services, Inc. North Vancouver, B.C. 604 983 UNIX Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD
