Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:13:23PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. I now tried 10mdk, still it says that the default is all users, and then it does not back up any. tried 16mdk - still the same problem. I had a small problem with the advanced settings, the repeated cron thing. The default seemed to be to write to cd, every hour. That does not seem practical. disk would be better. tried this again, there were no defaults for backup media and interval. I think disk backup should be chosen by default, and then an interval of either an hour or a day, maybe daily backup is fine. I looked at the buttons problem again. It seems to be that one of the texts are quite long. Build backup was translated to Opbyg sikkerhedskopi and then all buttons get the lenght of that text. I changed the danish translation to Lav backup - this is somewhat of a kludge and not consistent with the terminology used in the rest of the app, but it is understandable. I also do maintain danish transaltions. this problem is gone now. The settings are now saved between invocations. In advanced settings, the backup media setting was forgotten, or not shown as the default. The show configuration did show it. There was still no way to set up the cron thing via the wizard. best regards Keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:13:23PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. I now tried 10mdk, still it says that the default is all users, and then it does not back up any. I had a small problem with the advanced settings, the repeated cron thing. The default seemed to be to write to cd, every hour. That does not seem practical. disk would be better. Is there a way for me to delete all settings? Can I just remove a configuration file, and then which? I looked at the buttons problem again. It seems to be that one of the texts are quite long. Build backup was translated to Opbyg sikkerhedskopi and then all buttons get the lenght of that text. I changed the danish translation to Lav backup - this is somewhat of a kludge and not consistent with the terminology used in the rest of the app, but it is understandable. I also do maintain danish transaltions. I still would have liked to have the cron version, hourly to disk, be the default, but maybe we can do that for the next release of MDK, when we have got some experience with what we have now. I tried some more drakbackup, as I had set my defaults to run cron backup, hourly on disk. Then I looked at the logs, knowing that I have done some mods. There were no logs, and looking at the configuration, I saw that it had forgotten my setting, reporting that I was not using cron. Anyway I tried to set everything again, and then revisit my settings... When I reviewed my settings, they were gone. Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: I tried some more drakbackup, as I had set my defaults to run cron backup, hourly on disk. Then I looked at the logs, knowing that I have done some mods. There were no logs, and looking at the configuration, I saw that it had forgotten my setting, reporting that I was not using cron. Anyway I tried to set everything again, and then revisit my settings... When I reviewed my settings, they were gone. Are you using the Save button? -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 10:30:03AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: I tried some more drakbackup, as I had set my defaults to run cron backup, hourly on disk. Then I looked at the logs, knowing that I have done some mods. There were no logs, and looking at the configuration, I saw that it had forgotten my setting, reporting that I was not using cron. Anyway I tried to set everything again, and then revisit my settings... When I reviewed my settings, they were gone. Are you using the Save button? Yes, several times :-) Keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 05:03:41PM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. I now tried 10mdk, still it says that the default is all users, and then it does not back up any. When you continue through the wizard to the final setting page, are the users listed? They are here, and end up in my config. I deleted the .conf file and went thru the wizard, just using defaults. But no users were selected at the end. I do have a home partition which is lager than the space set aside for the backup. Would that be a problem? (during the wizard, I mean... later it certainly will). I had a small problem with the advanced settings, the repeated cron thing. The default seemed to be to write to cd, every hour. That does not seem practical. disk would be better. I still would have liked to have the cron version, hourly to disk, be the default, but maybe we can do that for the next release of MDK, when we have got some experience with what we have now. I see why cd is becoming the default now. Fallout from the GUI changes to the menu lists. I'll fix. By default, no cron setting should be setup initially. I agree that defaults should not do a cron setting, at least for now. But maybe the possibility to set up automatic backup should be highlighted during the wizard. Somthing like: Drakbackup can set up the backup to be done automatically with some regular intervals, for example hourly. Do you want to use this feature? best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: I deleted the .conf file and went thru the wizard, just using defaults. But no users were selected at the end. I do have a home partition which is lager than the space set aside for the backup. Would that be a problem? (during the wizard, I mean... later it certainly will). Shouldn't matter at that step. You are checking the Backup Users box right? Maybe the text is misleading in that it only happens when you check the box. What it's trying to say is that if you just check the box, all users are selected, versus selecting individual users using the button below. I'm unable to duplicate the behavior you describe if I check it. I agree that defaults should not do a cron setting, at least for now. But maybe the possibility to set up automatic backup should be highlighted during the wizard. Somthing like: Drakbackup can set up the backup to be done automatically with some regular intervals, for example hourly. Do you want to use this feature? Sounds like a good idea. I'm told the wizard doesn't really behave like a wizard should, so perhaps in reworking it I could do something like that. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 08:32:18AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: I deleted the .conf file and went thru the wizard, just using defaults. But no users were selected at the end. I do have a home partition which is lager than the space set aside for the backup. Would that be a problem? (during the wizard, I mean... later it certainly will). Shouldn't matter at that step. You are checking the Backup Users box right? Maybe the text is misleading in that it only happens when you check the box. What it's trying to say is that if you just check the box, all users are selected, versus selecting individual users using the button below. I'm unable to duplicate the behavior you describe if I check it. The box was checked by default, and it said that the default was to backup all users. And this is the behaviour I would like:-) I agree that defaults should not do a cron setting, at least for now. But maybe the possibility to set up automatic backup should be highlighted during the wizard. Somthing like: Drakbackup can set up the backup to be done automatically with some regular intervals, for example hourly. Do you want to use this feature? Sounds like a good idea. I'm told the wizard doesn't really behave like a wizard should, so perhaps in reworking it I could do something like that. Sounds good! If you tell me when a new version is ready I will try it out, although I have given up to run cooker proper - there are too many inconsistencies with files - at least in the cooker mirrors I have been using. keld
[Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. btw, the buttons on show configuration are still not ok. The buttons overlap eachother because there is too much text in all the buttons in total to be on one line. It needs two lines. Probably an error on a draw buttons API that if there is not enought room in one line, to then make space for two lines and draw the buttons in two lines. I think the two line problem also appears in other screens (I remember reporting it for something else in drakbackup) Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. btw, the buttons on show configuration are still not ok. The buttons overlap eachother because there is too much text in all the buttons in total to be on one line. It needs two lines. Probably an error on a draw buttons API that if there is not enought room in one line, to then make space for two lines and draw the buttons in two lines. I think the two line problem also appears in other screens (I remember reporting it for something else in drakbackup) I think I asked before for a screenshot also. Those 5 words in English expand that big in your language? It's not really practical for me to try to setup each locale to see what the translations look like. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. btw, the buttons on show configuration are still not ok. The buttons overlap eachother because there is too much text in all the buttons in total to be on one line. It needs two lines. Probably an error on a draw buttons API that if there is not enought room in one line, to then make space for two lines and draw the buttons in two lines. I think the two line problem also appears in other screens (I remember reporting it for something else in drakbackup) I think I asked before for a screenshot also. Those 5 words in English expand that big in your language? It's not really practical for me to try to setup each locale to see what the translations look like. Dont remember you asking for it, but I will send you a snapshot privately. Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. Does RC2 have the same drakxtools as above? Thanks, -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. Does RC2 have the same drakxtools as above? No, it is 9.2-9mdk - I will try 9.2-10mdk Keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. I now tried 10mdk, still it says that the default is all users, and then it does not back up any. I had a small problem with the advanced settings, the repeated cron thing. The default seemed to be to write to cd, every hour. That does not seem practical. disk would be better. Is there a way for me to delete all settings? Can I just remove a configuration file, and then which? I looked at the buttons problem again. It seems to be that one of the texts are quite long. Build backup was translated to Opbyg sikkerhedskopi and then all buttons get the lenght of that text. I changed the danish translation to Lav backup - this is somewhat of a kludge and not consistent with the terminology used in the rest of the app, but it is understandable. I also do maintain danish transaltions. I still would have liked to have the cron version, hourly to disk, be the default, but maybe we can do that for the next release of MDK, when we have got some experience with what we have now. best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup does not select all users
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 06:25:42AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: rc2 drakbackup says it selects all users as default, but it does not. At least when I go to show configuration, none of the users are marked for backup, although the default chose all users and was set. Seems to here (drakxtools-9.2-10mdk). You're talking about the wizard right? Running as root is the only time it should select all users. That text shouldn't show running as a normal user. It was the wizard in root mode, yes, out of RC2. I now tried 10mdk, still it says that the default is all users, and then it does not back up any. When you continue through the wizard to the final setting page, are the users listed? They are here, and end up in my config. I had a small problem with the advanced settings, the repeated cron thing. The default seemed to be to write to cd, every hour. That does not seem practical. disk would be better. Is there a way for me to delete all settings? Can I just remove a configuration file, and then which? /etc/drakxtools/drakbackup/drakbackup.conf Deleting this should let the app create a default config. I looked at the buttons problem again. It seems to be that one of the texts are quite long. Build backup was translated to Opbyg sikkerhedskopi and then all buttons get the lenght of that text. I changed the danish translation to Lav backup - this is somewhat of a kludge and not consistent with the terminology used in the rest of the app, but it is understandable. I also do maintain danish transaltions. Thanks! I still would have liked to have the cron version, hourly to disk, be the default, but maybe we can do that for the next release of MDK, when we have got some experience with what we have now. I see why cd is becoming the default now. Fallout from the GUI changes to the menu lists. I'll fix. By default, no cron setting should be setup initially. best regards keld -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
