Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-04-03 Thread Daniel Serodio


On 08/03/2001 11:37:25 -0300 Andrej Borsenkow wrote:
 On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 
  On Tuesday 06 March 2001 18:35, Alexander Skwar wrote:
   So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
  Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot

 imagine how

  could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on
 17"
  monitor before :-)

 So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
 review with
 shift/pageup?
   
Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or
without frambuffer.
  
   SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.
  
 
  Hey, that would be really useful - but it doesn't do it on my box.
 
 
 Nor does it here. Hence I was a bit surprised.

It works, but if you change consoles (Alt+F1, etc) it "forgets" the
scroll buffer of the previous console.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-09 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote:

 On Tuesday 06 March 2001 18:35, Alexander Skwar wrote:
  So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
 Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
   
imagine how
   
 could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17"
 monitor before :-)
   
So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
review with
shift/pageup?
  
   Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or
   without frambuffer.
 
  SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.
 

 Hey, that would be really useful - but it doesn't do it on my box.


Nor does it here. Hence I was a bit surprised.

-andrej





Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-07 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Tuesday 06 March 2001 18:35, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
  
   imagine how
  
could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17"
monitor before :-)
  
   So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
   review with
   shift/pageup?
 
  Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or
  without frambuffer.

 SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.


Hey, that would be really useful - but it doesn't do it on my box.
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
   Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
  imagine how
   could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
   before :-)
 
  So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
  review with
  shift/pageup?
 
 
 Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or without
 frambuffer.

SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.

Alexander Skwar
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RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Andrej Borsenkow



 So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:
  The old Aurora in 7.2 was ok cause showed a list not just
 flashing words so
  fast one cant read it like the new one.  The new one is of no use
 to me and i
  cant figure out how to get rid of it.

 rpm -e Aurora

 BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should I
 do next?


Enable framebuffer - add vga=xxx to boot section in lilo (do not ask about
grub). Look in frambuffer howto how modes are computed.

Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot imagine how
could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
before :-)

-andrej





RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Alexander Skwar

Andrej Borsenkow said:

 Enable framebuffer - add vga=xxx to boot section in lilo (do not ask about
 grub). Look in frambuffer howto how modes are computed. 

Thanks, I will do!

 Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot imagine how
 could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
 before :-) -andrej

Actually I do not like framebuffer - it's noticeably slower than pure text
output.

And as far as 80x24 is concerned - simply change the font to something
smaller, and you'll get 80x50 - which is good enough for *ME*. No need for
framebuffer just for this. And 132xXX is just too damn small for my eyes on
a 17".

But does this mean that I have to use Framebuffer when I want to use Aurora? 
I don't think I'd actually like this (since it's too slow...)

Hmm, are there any advantages in using framebuffer?

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RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Andrej Borsenkow



  Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
 imagine how
  could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
  before :-) -andrej

 Actually I do not like framebuffer - it's noticeably slower than pure text
 output.


It's a matter of taste. It is fast enough for me (I cannot read faster anyway)
and I like look'n'feel of it.


 But does this mean that I have to use Framebuffer when I want to
 use Aurora?
 I don't think I'd actually like this (since it's too slow...)


AFAIK you can use famebuffer or dedicated X server. I never tried the latter.


-andrej





Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Ed Wilts

On Monday 05 March 2001 00:59, Andrej Borsenkow wrote:
  So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:

  BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should
  I do next?

 Enable framebuffer - add vga=xxx to boot section in lilo (do not ask about
 grub). Look in frambuffer howto how modes are computed.

It's done the same way in grub.  Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add something 
like vga=791 (1024x768x16bit) to the end of the line.  Here's a cut from my 
menu.lst

title linux
kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5  hdd=ide-scsi vga=791

Then run the script /boot/grub/install.sh

 Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot imagine how
 could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
 before :-)

So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and review with 
shift/pageup?

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RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

  Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
 imagine how
  could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
  before :-)

 So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
 review with
 shift/pageup?


Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or without
frambuffer.

-andrej





Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-04 Thread Armisis Aieoln

Thank you Alexander, that took care of my problem!

Dave


On Sunday 04 March 2001 18:45, you wrote:
 So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:
  The old Aurora in 7.2 was ok cause showed a list not just flashing words
  so fast one cant read it like the new one.  The new one is of no use to
  me and i cant figure out how to get rid of it.

 rpm -e Aurora

 BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should I
 do next?

  Once it is informitive for troubleshooting (expecialy always running a
  cookerversion like i do) then i would be glad to use it!!

 For troubleshooting, I think that especially Aurora is of no use at all.  I
 even set in /etc/sysconfig/init BOOTUP=verbose, so that the messages
 printed during boot are somewhat more informative.

 Alexander Skwar




Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-04 Thread andre

 
 So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:
  The old Aurora in 7.2 was ok cause showed a list not just flashing words so
  fast one cant read it like the new one.  The new one is of no use to me and i
  cant figure out how to get rid of it.
 
 rpm -e Aurora
 
 BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should I
 do next?

There are 4 Aurora packages. Install one of the 3 left


 
  Once it is informitive for troubleshooting (expecialy always running a
  cookerversion like i do) then i would be glad to use it!!
 
 For troubleshooting, I think that especially Aurora is of no use at all.  I
 even set in /etc/sysconfig/init BOOTUP=verbose, so that the messages printed
 during boot are somewhat more informative.
 
 Alexander Skwar
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-04 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach andre am Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:38:29AM +0100:
 There are 4 Aurora packages. Install one of the 3 left

The *monitor packages?  Doesn't work, since they are, like someone else
already said, still at -120mdk and require Aurora -120mdk, which is not
available.

But okay, assuming that they were at -121mdk: Would this be all I had to do?

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