Re: [Cooker] 1.457 expert PCMCIA/HD install : missing many packages

2001-03-17 Thread Pixel

Jan Vicherek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Did I do something wrong / stupid, or are these bugs in the install ?

what exactly do you find buggy? the fact that much less packages are installed
by default?

looking at your diff, i see many packages that should not be installed and feel
the current behaviour is better. 

of course quite a few good packages are missing. Tell me about them, or better
send me a patch for the rpmsrate :)
(http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gi/perl-install/share/rpmsrate)





Re: [Cooker] 1.457 expert PCMCIA/HD install : missing many packages

2001-03-17 Thread Jan Vicherek


On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Pixel wrote:

 Jan Vicherek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Did I do something wrong / stupid, or are these bugs in the install ?
 
 what exactly do you find buggy? the fact that much less packages are installed
 by default?

 Nope. I find buggy that I selected everything in the individual package
selection except non-english packages, and the following didn't get
installed : sshd, AfterStep-1.8.8-1mdk alsaplayer-0.99.32-13mdk
alsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdk ami-1.0.9-1mdk ami-gnome-1.0.9-1mdk
Apache-ASP-2.00-3mdk apache-devel-1.3.14-4mdk ... etc etc etc .

 don't you find such behavior buggy ?

 looking at your diff, i see many packages that should not be installed and feel
 the current behaviour is better. 

 not if I specifically asked for every package (I hope they were listed on
the individual selections !)

 of course quite a few good packages are missing. Tell me about them, or better
 send me a patch for the rpmsrate :)

  I haven't thought of what packages are missing in the RPMS directory, my
only concern was that I've selected every package shown in the individual
selector, yet there were so many not installed !

   Thanks,

  Jan

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Re: [Cooker] 1.457 expert PCMCIA/HD install : missing many packages

2001-03-17 Thread Pixel

Jan Vicherek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

  Nope. I find buggy that I selected everything in the individual package
 selection except non-english packages, and the following didn't get
 installed : sshd, AfterStep-1.8.8-1mdk alsaplayer-0.99.32-13mdk
 alsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdk ami-1.0.9-1mdk ami-gnome-1.0.9-1mdk
 Apache-ASP-2.00-3mdk apache-devel-1.3.14-4mdk ... etc etc etc .
 
  don't you find such behavior buggy ?

ok, that is a bug. But i just tried selecting AfterStep in the "individual
selection" step and it did get installed...

 
  looking at your diff, i see many packages that should not be installed and feel
  the current behaviour is better. 
 
  not if I specifically asked for every package (I hope they were listed on
 the individual selections !)

?? what do you mean by "I hope they ... !"

 
  of course quite a few good packages are missing. Tell me about them, or better
  send me a patch for the rpmsrate :)
 
   I haven't thought of what packages are missing in the RPMS directory, my
 only concern was that I've selected every package shown in the individual
 selector, yet there were so many not installed !

well i was speaking of packages that are not selected after the group selection
step, and that you have to select by hand in the "individual packages" selection
afterwards.




Re: [Cooker] 1.457 expert PCMCIA/HD install : missing many packages

2001-03-17 Thread Jan Vicherek


 Hmm, could it be that my Mandrake/base/*list* was not in sync with
Mandrake/RPMS/* ? Would such state cause the behavior described ?
 How do I find out whether it is / was in sync ? If I rsynced against
primary site, why wouldn't it be in sync ?

On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Pixel wrote:

 Jan Vicherek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Nope. I find buggy that I selected everything in the individual package
  selection except non-english packages, and the following didn't get
  installed : sshd, AfterStep-1.8.8-1mdk alsaplayer-0.99.32-13mdk
  alsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdk ami-1.0.9-1mdk ami-gnome-1.0.9-1mdk
  Apache-ASP-2.00-3mdk apache-devel-1.3.14-4mdk ... etc etc etc .
  
   don't you find such behavior buggy ?
 
 ok, that is a bug. But i just tried selecting AfterStep in the "individual
 selection" step and it did get installed...
 
  
   looking at your diff, i see many packages that should not be installed and feel
   the current behaviour is better. 
  
   not if I specifically asked for every package (I hope they were listed on
  the individual selections !)
 
 ?? what do you mean by "I hope they ... !"

 I didn't check what was there and what wasn't I've been checking
everything and only filtering out what had contained the ...-xx- language
extension. So I don't know whether apache-devel was listed on the
individual pkg selection list.

  Jan

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Re: [Cooker] 1.457 expert PCMCIA/HD install : missing many packages

2001-03-17 Thread Jan Vicherek


On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Pixel wrote:

 Jan Vicherek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I didn't check what was there and what wasn't I've been checking
  everything and only filtering out what had contained the ...-xx- language
  extension. So I don't know whether apache-devel was listed on the
  individual pkg selection list.
 
 that explains. In the tree selection, AfterStep is not there. The only way to
 select it is to toggle to flat list where all packages are there.

  Hmm, the fact the tree list and the flat list don't have indentical set
looks to me like something that needs fixing, right ? Or is there a solid
idea as to why shouldn't these lists be identical, or at least very close ?
(execpt maybe HW-specifics, like Xfree drivers, etc) ?

 Jan


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Re: [Cooker] 1.457 expert PCMCIA/HD install : missing many packages(fwd)

2001-03-17 Thread Jan Vicherek


On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Pixel wrote:

 Jan Vicherek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Pixel wrote:
  
   Jan Vicherek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I didn't check what was there and what wasn't I've been checking
everything and only filtering out what had contained the ...-xx- language
extension. So I don't know whether apache-devel was listed on the
individual pkg selection list.
   
   that explains. In the tree selection, AfterStep is not there. The only way to
   select it is to toggle to flat list where all packages are there.
  
Hmm, the fact the tree list and the flat list don't have indentical set
  looks to me like something that needs fixing, right ? Or is there a solid
  idea as to why shouldn't these lists be identical, or at least very close ?
  (execpt maybe HW-specifics, like Xfree drivers, etc) ?
 
 i could add a "All other packages" node, but i'm not sure it would be good. The
 basic idea is to keep people from installing everything.

   Apparently it's not clear that the tree/flat lists are not
equivalent. Please either make them equivalent or make it obvious that
they are not. I think that would avoid some unpleasant surprises.

   Thanks,

  Jan

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