Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
Hi dams , I've tested with france alcatel for the orkit modem that works as pptp . it doesn't work , when using the howto that I've sent earlier on the list sometimes it works (on certain configuration) aand sometimes note how could I help you get it works . Note I've no ADSL modem I test all this on friends computers . On Tuesday 05 December 2000 03:35, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Marshall) writes: ok, if it's pptp use draknet, choose france, pptp (Alcatel modems), and it should work. If not, mail me It should works (I've a friends (that got it works with the help of the howto I've sent)) I've spoke with bezek (Israeli telecom) and they told me that Orkit and Alcatel use the same methods and that from the next month all modems will be Alcatel one in all Israel . So you could add the entry Israel Uhm...since this is an International conference I thought I should chime in here. I've installed two Alcatel modems here in Quebec and a standard pppoe install makes them work. I don't think you can make this determination by modem brand name. This doesn't negate anything you've said about Alcatel modems in Israel of course. You're right, it was bad to determine the protocole to use with the land and the modem type. The problem is : how can a newbie answer to the question "use pppoe or pptp?" If you have suggestion... But I agree that it's bad to ask the land and the modem type.
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meir Faraj) writes: Hi dams , I've tested with france alcatel for the orkit modem that works as pptp . it doesn't work , when using the howto that I've sent earlier on the list sometimes it works (on certain configuration) aand sometimes note how could I help you get it works . Note I've no ADSL modem I test all this on friends computers . Without the modem, it's difficult for me... Send me a mail privately, we will investigate that a little more -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Marshall) writes: You're right, it was bad to determine the protocole to use with the land and the modem type. The geographic area is probably a better predictor than the modem brand. The problem is : how can a newbie answer to the question "use pppoe or pptp?" Try one. If it works you guessed right. Otherwise, try the other one :-) This, of course, assumes you can't just call your service provider and ask. yes, I think that I'll do that... -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
On Wednesday 06 December 2000 01:49, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Marshall) writes: You're right, it was bad to determine the protocole to use with the land and the modem type. The geographic area is probably a better predictor than the modem brand. The problem is : how can a newbie answer to the question "use pppoe or pptp?" Try one. If it works you guessed right. Otherwise, try the other one :-) This, of course, assumes you can't just call your service provider and ask. yes, I think that I'll do that... woaaah , this is a very good idea if it works correctly .. it will simplify a lot the configuration for newbies . I will test it after you do this ;-) good luck ;-p
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
ok, if it's pptp use draknet, choose france, pptp (Alcatel modems), and it should work. If not, mail me It should works (I've a friends (that got it works with the help of the howto I've sent)) I've spoke with bezek (Israeli telecom) and they told me that Orkit and Alcatel use the same methods and that from the next month all modems will be Alcatel one in all Israel . So you could add the entry Israel Uhm...since this is an International conference I thought I should chime in here. I've installed two Alcatel modems here in Quebec and a standard pppoe install makes them work. I don't think you can make this determination by modem brand name. This doesn't negate anything you've said about Alcatel modems in Israel of course. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Marshall) writes: ok, if it's pptp use draknet, choose france, pptp (Alcatel modems), and it should work. If not, mail me It should works (I've a friends (that got it works with the help of the howto I've sent)) I've spoke with bezek (Israeli telecom) and they told me that Orkit and Alcatel use the same methods and that from the next month all modems will be Alcatel one in all Israel . So you could add the entry Israel Uhm...since this is an International conference I thought I should chime in here. I've installed two Alcatel modems here in Quebec and a standard pppoe install makes them work. I don't think you can make this determination by modem brand name. This doesn't negate anything you've said about Alcatel modems in Israel of course. You're right, it was bad to determine the protocole to use with the land and the modem type. The problem is : how can a newbie answer to the question "use pppoe or pptp?" If you have suggestion... But I agree that it's bad to ask the land and the modem type. -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
You're right, it was bad to determine the protocole to use with the land and the modem type. The geographic area is probably a better predictor than the modem brand. The problem is : how can a newbie answer to the question "use pppoe or pptp?" Try one. If it works you guessed right. Otherwise, try the other one :-) This, of course, assumes you can't just call your service provider and ask. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meir Faraj) writes: On Friday 01 December 2000 13:20, you wrote: Hi It's the same here in France : modem via ethernet, via VPN, but there is two kind of modems : those using ppoe and those using pptp Both of them work under linux (i'm under pptp) I just had a problem with upgrades from cooker, the modem was freezing after 24 hours of on-line time. CU Stef Le Vendredi 01 Décembre 2000 10:04, vous avez écrit : Hi , I'm living in israel and wanna pass also to ADSL technology but. problems : I've already friends that already use it (in test) and I've told them how to configure it but no one of the two have succeded . They've phone to bezek (israelies phones' service provider) and they told them that they won't support Linux for now and I've told with a technician of bezek that told me that they put to different non standart ADSL one in telaviv and others and one in Jerusalem(where I'm living) . I'm sure than it no complicate to get it works ... I will tell you what I know about the Jerusalem version (the telaviv one works like us one I think (but not sure)) Informations : The modem is an external one developed by an Israelian company Orckit . It is connected to a networks card . You conect throws the networks card to the adsl modem . How it works : You must create a VPN and tell via the networks card to dialup and connect to the provider I know now the method is pptp I doesn't know how to install it simply (but someone tell me to download a targz) I wanna know the simple way ;-) ok, if it's pptp use draknet, choose france, pptp (Alcatel modems), and it should work. If not, mail me -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
On Sunday 03 December 2000 23:22, you wrote: ok, if it's pptp use draknet, choose france, pptp (Alcatel modems), and it should work. If not, mail me It should works (I've a friends (that got it works with the help of the howto I've sent)) I've spoke with bezek (Israeli telecom) and they told me that Orkit and Alcatel use the same methods and that from the next month all modems will be Alcatel one in all Israel . So you could add the entry Israel (for ADSL) and it's , I think equivalent to France-Alcatel . I will tel to another friends (that have no play with the pptp tar ball) that have the ADSL and will tell him to try it. thanks dam's
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, Meir Faraj wrote: Hi , I'm living in israel and wanna pass also to ADSL technology but. problems : I've already friends that already use it (in test) and I've told them how to configure it but no one of the two have succeded . They've phone to bezek (israelies phones' service provider) and they told them that they won't support Linux for now and I've told with a technician of bezek that told me that they put to different non standart ADSL one in telaviv and others and one in Jerusalem(where I'm living) . I'm sure than it no complicate to get it works ... I will tell you what I know about the Jerusalem version (the telaviv one works like us one I think (but not sure)) Informations : The modem is an external one developed by an Israelian company Orckit . It is connected to a networks card . You conect throws the networks card to the adsl modem . Right, external ethernet ADSL modem... Have you taken a look at a Windows machine using this service?? How it works : You must create a VPN and tell via the networks card to dialup and connect to the provider Sounds like PPPoE? James.
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
Hi It's the same here in France : modem via ethernet, via VPN, but there is two kind of modems : those using ppoe and those using pptp Both of them work under linux (i'm under pptp) I just had a problem with upgrades from cooker, the modem was freezing after 24 hours of on-line time. CU Stef Le Vendredi 01 Décembre 2000 10:04, vous avez écrit : Hi , I'm living in israel and wanna pass also to ADSL technology but. problems : I've already friends that already use it (in test) and I've told them how to configure it but no one of the two have succeded . They've phone to bezek (israelies phones' service provider) and they told them that they won't support Linux for now and I've told with a technician of bezek that told me that they put to different non standart ADSL one in telaviv and others and one in Jerusalem(where I'm living) . I'm sure than it no complicate to get it works ... I will tell you what I know about the Jerusalem version (the telaviv one works like us one I think (but not sure)) Informations : The modem is an external one developed by an Israelian company Orckit . It is connected to a networks card . You conect throws the networks card to the adsl modem . How it works : You must create a VPN and tell via the networks card to dialup and connect to the provider -- '[Software Is Like Sex, It's Better When It's Free]' __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
On Friday 01 December 2000 12:01, you wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, Meir Faraj wrote: Hi , I'm living in israel and wanna pass also to ADSL technology but. problems : I've already friends that already use it (in test) and I've told them how to configure it but no one of the two have succeded . They've phone to bezek (israelies phones' service provider) and they told them that they won't support Linux for now and I've told with a technician of bezek that told me that they put to different non standart ADSL one in telaviv and others and one in Jerusalem(where I'm living) . I'm sure than it no complicate to get it works ... I will tell you what I know about the Jerusalem version (the telaviv one works like us one I think (but not sure)) Informations : The modem is an external one developed by an Israelian company Orckit . It is connected to a networks card . You conect throws the networks card to the adsl modem . Right, external ethernet ADSL modem... Have you taken a look at a Windows machine using this service?? How it works : You must create a VPN and tell via the networks card to dialup and connect to the provider Sounds like PPPoE? James. I thing so , how to configure it since : my friend installed Mandrake telling it to use PPPoE and it doesn't tell him to enter the hostname of the VPN (10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1) and for the moment they haven't fix dns (automatique) ... and it doesn't works so for the moment .
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
On Friday 01 December 2000 13:20, you wrote: Hi It's the same here in France : modem via ethernet, via VPN, but there is two kind of modems : those using ppoe and those using pptp Both of them work under linux (i'm under pptp) I just had a problem with upgrades from cooker, the modem was freezing after 24 hours of on-line time. CU Stef Le Vendredi 01 Décembre 2000 10:04, vous avez écrit : Hi , I'm living in israel and wanna pass also to ADSL technology but. problems : I've already friends that already use it (in test) and I've told them how to configure it but no one of the two have succeded . They've phone to bezek (israelies phones' service provider) and they told them that they won't support Linux for now and I've told with a technician of bezek that told me that they put to different non standart ADSL one in telaviv and others and one in Jerusalem(where I'm living) . I'm sure than it no complicate to get it works ... I will tell you what I know about the Jerusalem version (the telaviv one works like us one I think (but not sure)) Informations : The modem is an external one developed by an Israelian company Orckit . It is connected to a networks card . You conect throws the networks card to the adsl modem . How it works : You must create a VPN and tell via the networks card to dialup and connect to the provider I know now the method is pptp I doesn't know how to install it simply (but someone tell me to download a targz) I wanna know the simple way ;-) thanks a lot
Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)
I know now the method is pptp I doesn't know how to install it simply (but someone tell me to download a targz) I wanna know the simple way ;-) I'm not sure how applicable this is to your situation but when installing DSL under v7.2 you're asked whether you're in "France" or "other countries". This seems too consistent with what others here have suggested to be coincidence. Wish I could tell you something about what the France option is installation but I've never had need to select it. Cheer --- Larry
