Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 18:13, Thierry Vignaud wrote: [...] the fix is probably to go for using WrappedLabel instead of Label and feed them with formatAlaTeX() everywhere for better layout. ehh ... could you translate it for us mere mortals? :) some labels are filled with sized texts and are not marked as wrapp-able. we should use wrapped labels were needed. also, some labels look bad with some translations due to wrapping issues vs manual return caracters. so i suggest to separate paragraphs by two lines like in LaTeX and let formatAlaTeX() from MDK::Common do the jobs for us. filling with paragraphs + auto-wrapping should clear most l10n visual bugs. does it require modifying of translation?
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- there are problems in some MCC tools when embedded, they do not
fit in parent window (apparently due to different size of translated
strings) but no scrollbars are available so some controls (buttons
et al) cannot be reached. More or less the same as always, it
happens in every release. I can send screenshots if anyone is
interested.
i would be more interested in patches against share/po/ru.po :-)
the fix is probably to go for using WrappedLabel instead of Label and
feed them with formatAlaTeX() everywhere for better layout.
The overall look is really more polished and professional. MCC looks
very nice, do I understand right that draksec now takes care of
grsecurity settings? Some options smell like it. Translations were
also mostly good so far.
draksec is just a gui wrapper for msec.
if msec supports it, draksec'll
2all - what do you think of translating contributors list? I mean,
using native names in native locale. I do not know how many
non-ISO8859-1 contributors are there though ...
that would be nice :-)
pablo, maybe should we import them in drakconf po ?
it's not hard: the following perl script converts CREDITS from
mandrake-release into a dumb perl file such as :
=
{
N(contributor1) = N(description1),
N(contributor2) = N(description2),
(...)
}
=
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use MDK::Common;
output(contributors.pl,
join(\n,
qq(#/usr/bin/perl
use lib qw(/usr/lib/libDrakX);
use common;
{
),
(map {
my ($contributor, $descr) = split(', ', $_, 2);
qq(\tN($contributor) = N(qq($descr)),);
} cat_(glob(/usr/share/doc/mandrake-release-*/CREDITS))),
}
)
);
and then we would just have to list it in
soft/control-center/po/POTFILES.in:
Index: po/POTFILES.in
===
RCS file: /cooker/soft/control-center/po/POTFILES.in,v
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.11 POTFILES.in
--- po/POTFILES.in 26 Aug 2002 08:57:44 - 1.11
+++ po/POTFILES.in 29 Oct 2003 13:33:13 -
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
control-center
clock.pl
+contributors.pl
menus_launcher.pl
print_launcher.pl
gecko.pm
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
[thierry, would you mind Cc to me directly?] - there are problems in some MCC tools when embedded, they do not fit in parent window (apparently due to different size of translated strings) but no scrollbars are available so some controls (buttons et al) cannot be reached. More or less the same as always, it happens in every release. I can send screenshots if anyone is interested. i would be more interested in patches against share/po/ru.po :-) sure but as I said tranlsations look mostly right. Russian does have longer words than English in average so it is generic problem that must be addressed - you cannot assume fixed size dialog that suits everybody. Is it possible to compute parent window size based on child size? This probably needs to be done once on init for max size as otherweise window starts flickering. the fix is probably to go for using WrappedLabel instead of Label and feed them with formatAlaTeX() everywhere for better layout. ehh ... could you translate it for us mere mortals? :) -andrey
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [thierry, would you mind Cc to me directly?] no. [ well, if i remember ] - there are problems in some MCC tools when embedded, they do not fit in parent window (apparently due to different size of translated strings) but no scrollbars are available so some controls (buttons et al) cannot be reached. More or less the same as always, it happens in every release. I can send screenshots if anyone is interested. i would be more interested in patches against share/po/ru.po :-) sure but as I said tranlsations look mostly right. Russian does have longer words than English in average so it is generic problem that must be addressed - you cannot assume fixed size dialog that suits everybody. Is it possible to compute parent window size based on child size? problem is that they're issues because mcc must fit into 800x600 This probably needs to be done once on init for max size as otherweise window starts flickering. the fix is probably to go for using WrappedLabel instead of Label and feed them with formatAlaTeX() everywhere for better layout. ehh ... could you translate it for us mere mortals? :) some labels are filled with sized texts and are not marked as wrapp-able. we should use wrapped labels were needed. also, some labels look bad with some translations due to wrapping issues vs manual return caracters. so i suggest to separate paragraphs by two lines like in LaTeX and let formatAlaTeX() from MDK::Common do the jobs for us. filling with paragraphs + auto-wrapping should clear most l10n visual bugs.
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
Pablo Saratxaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2all - what do you think of translating contributors list? I
mean, using native names in native locale. I do not know how
many non-ISO8859-1 contributors are there though ...
that would be nice :-)
Yes; I usually put N() around people name showing in credit screens;
so it allows for names to be written correctly for non latin scripts
(or even for latin scripts using lots of accents)
here the list does not come from perl sources but from a text file
included in mandrake-release package that is read at runtime by
drakconf.
pablo, maybe should we import them in drakconf po ?
it's not hard: the following perl script converts CREDITS from
mandrake-release into a dumb perl file such as :
=
{
N(contributor1) = N(description1),
N(contributor2) = N(description2),
(...)
}
=
You mean a credits-screen common to all mdk-tools? (like the generic
credits screen of Gnome that lists all contributors)
It would indeed be a good idea; I don't know where exactly to tie
it... maybe an extra menu entry about mandrake linux... ?
the about window of mcc list mandrake contributors since mdk9.2
(only mcc's about dialog)
just run it :-)
I didn't knew about that CREDITS file; translators should be added
too (only a few are)
just go (in the cooker twiki)
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
tisdagen den 28 oktober 2003 18.47 skrev Andrey Borzenkov: [...] Nice to hear from you again Andrey, where have you been lately?, in the gulag? 2all - what do you think of translating contributors list? I mean, using native names in native locale. I do not know how many non-ISO8859-1 contributors are there though ... I think MDK wants to go UTF-8, but it's pretty dirty so far. If it's transparent all the way it's ok to me, but fiddling with UTF-8 source is _not_ nice.
