RE: [Cooker] Cups-Driver: Remarks
Could you please elaborate on this sentence,
"Real CUPS support will be there in KDE 2.1.",
Please? Are you saying that there are {re-}architecting a complete,
competitive with Win__ & MacOS printing architecture for KDE?
Bruno Majewski
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> -Original Message-
> From: Till Kamppeter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cups-Driver: Remarks
>
> You can change the default settings whenever you want:
>
> Either start KUPS and right-click on your printer. In the pop-up menu
> click on "Configure Printer" and set up the desired options.
>
> Or go into the web interface (http://localhost:631/) choose "Printers",
> go to the entry of the desired printer and there click on "Configure
> Printer". On the screen appearing then adjust the options. Not that you
> must click on "Continue" in every group where you do a change.
>
> Note: Numerical options are only supported by KUPS, XPP, and QTCUPS.
>
> GNOME and KDE are not adapted to CUPS yet. The printer lists are taken
> from the /etc/printcap file and we ship CUPS configured to generate an
> /etc/printcap file for compatibility. Printouts are sent with the "lpr"
> command which is provided by CUPS in system with CUPS installed. The
> options in the KDE printing dialog are the ones which are also available
> in the LPD printing system.
>
> The situation of GNOME is similar.
>
> Real CUPS support will be there in KDE 2.1.
>
>Till
>
>
> Reinhard Katzmann wrote:
> >
> > Hi Till!
> >
> > Some remarks to the configure options:
> > The default for my gimp-print printer setting
> > is somewhat strange: 720 DPI driver, 180x180DPI physical.
> > It would be more logical to have 720 DPI both (I would
> > prefer 360 DPI both by default).
> >
> > One wish: As every printer has dirrerent resolutions there
> > should either be a possibility to copy printer entries and
> > only rename the printer name as a first step or (would be
> > MUCH better IMHO) to be able to change it before printing.
> > Of course this is application dependent, so programs like
> > acroread and wordperfect will never have it :-(
> >
> > I just hope that at least the Gnome and KDE will support all
> > preferences of the CUPS API if Cups is installed. (Currently
> > KDE is a little bit ahead, but only with the paper size, which
> > is uninteresting, more interesting would be dither, resolution,
> > paper type, image type and so on).
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Reinhard Katzmann
> > --
> > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Cups-Driver: Remarks
You can change the default settings whenever you want: Either start KUPS and right-click on your printer. In the pop-up menu click on "Configure Printer" and set up the desired options. Or go into the web interface (http://localhost:631/) choose "Printers", go to the entry of the desired printer and there click on "Configure Printer". On the screen appearing then adjust the options. Not that you must click on "Continue" in every group where you do a change. Note: Numerical options are only supported by KUPS, XPP, and QTCUPS. GNOME and KDE are not adapted to CUPS yet. The printer lists are taken from the /etc/printcap file and we ship CUPS configured to generate an /etc/printcap file for compatibility. Printouts are sent with the "lpr" command which is provided by CUPS in system with CUPS installed. The options in the KDE printing dialog are the ones which are also available in the LPD printing system. The situation of GNOME is similar. Real CUPS support will be there in KDE 2.1. Till Reinhard Katzmann wrote: > > Hi Till! > > Some remarks to the configure options: > The default for my gimp-print printer setting > is somewhat strange: 720 DPI driver, 180x180DPI physical. > It would be more logical to have 720 DPI both (I would > prefer 360 DPI both by default). > > One wish: As every printer has dirrerent resolutions there > should either be a possibility to copy printer entries and > only rename the printer name as a first step or (would be > MUCH better IMHO) to be able to change it before printing. > Of course this is application dependent, so programs like > acroread and wordperfect will never have it :-( > > I just hope that at least the Gnome and KDE will support all > preferences of the CUPS API if Cups is installed. (Currently > KDE is a little bit ahead, but only with the paper size, which > is uninteresting, more interesting would be dither, resolution, > paper type, image type and so on). > > Best regards, > > Reinhard Katzmann > -- > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Cups-Driver: Remarks
Reinhard Katzmann wrote: > > I have a Canon BJC 6000 > This is well supported by GIMP-Print (use "BJC 6000 (GIMP-Print)" as driver to get the printer using the GIMP-Print driver in GhostScript). > Of course that works, but not from within the application I just use > at the moment. I work around these things by creating three lp entries, > each one for every resolution I use. > You can use also so-called instances to store several option sets. If you call your printer "lp" then you can enter: lpoptions -p lp/1440 -o Quality=1440x720DPI lpoptions -p lp/720 -o Quality=720x720DPI and you have still one queue but two different option sets. You use all the system-wide and personal defaults as using "lp", but with "lp/720" you print with 720 dpi and with "lp/1440" you print with 1440 dpi. > Well I use the lpoptions command line tool (which does similar things, > but for the user, don't know if kups uses that file too). ~/.lpoptions is used by the PRINTING tools xpp, qtcups, and lpoptions. The ADMINISTRATION tools kups and the web interface save their options in the PPD files in /etc/cups/ppd/.ppd on the server which hosts the printer. So they only can set defaults for printer-specific options. > Here I > can define my user default session, for example n-up printing (which > is AFAIK neither in kups nor in the webinterface). My one looks like this: > > Dest lp PageSize=A4 number-up=1 ColorModel=CMYK GSResolution=1440DPI >Quality=1440x720DPI > Default lp number-up=2 media=A4 > Default lp1 number-up=2 media=A4 > Do not use two equal names in ~/.lpoptions. The second "lp" will probably never be used. There should also be only one "Default" which should be used when you print with "lpr" without the "-P" options. The others you can choose by "lpr -P ...". See http://localhost:631/sum.html To make these settings system-wide, copy them to /etc/cups/lpoptions or use xpp, qtcups, or lpoptions as root. > The "Dest" was already there when I edited that file the first time, > though the resolution is not used when I use the "lp" (default) printer. > (Not that I care currently, as I have one lp for every resolution). > > Kups has a really nice printing possibility (though it lacks printing of > pdf files or graphic files). That is the one which I'd like to see in > the most applications. I don't know well what the LSB is doing about > printing, but a API above CUPS/LP/... would be very useful (which would > automatically have all the option which the underlying printer system > supports). I read on the corel homepage that corel (and others) is > involved with the community to create such a standard though I don't > know how much is has progressed so far. > You can get only the printing dialog of kups by printing with qtcups or by entering "qtcups" as printing command in Netscape, Star Office, gv, or other applications. Then you can also print all types of files which CUPS is able to print (PS, text, images, HPGL). I didn't hear about Corel's efforts. Till
Re: [Cooker] Cups-Driver: Remarks
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 02:47:45PM +0200, Till Kamppeter wrote: > Reinhard Katzmann wrote: > > > > Hi Till! > > > > Some remarks to the configure options: > > The default for my gimp-print printer setting > > is somewhat strange: 720 DPI driver, 180x180DPI physical. > > It would be more logical to have 720 DPI both (I would > > prefer 360 DPI both by default). > > > > Which printer model do you have? I have a Canon BJC 6000 > In general, the default options of every printer driver can changed > permanently: > > In the web interface go to the printers page and click on the "Configure > Printer" button in its entry. On the upcoming page set the options and > click the "Accept" button of the section where you have done a change. > Use the "Back" button of your browser to make changes in the other > sections. Of course that works, but not from within the application I just use at the moment. I work around these things by creating three lp entries, each one for every resolution I use. > For personal defaults start xpp or qtcups and click on "Options" or > "Properties". After changing the options click the "Save" button in the > dialog and your settings apply to all your print jobs (they are saved in > ~/.lpoptions) including KDE and GNOME jobs (they all call the lpr > command which is replaced by the lpr program of CUPS in Mandrake 7.2). > In applications as Netscape or gv choose "xpp" or "qtcups" as printing > command. Well I use the lpoptions command line tool (which does similar things, but for the user, don't know if kups uses that file too). Here I can define my user default session, for example n-up printing (which is AFAIK neither in kups nor in the webinterface). My one looks like this: Dest lp PageSize=A4 number-up=1 ColorModel=CMYK GSResolution=1440DPI Quality=1440x720DPI Default lp number-up=2 media=A4 Default lp1 number-up=2 media=A4 The "Dest" was already there when I edited that file the first time, though the resolution is not used when I use the "lp" (default) printer. (Not that I care currently, as I have one lp for every resolution). > > KDE is a little bit ahead, but only with the paper size, which > > is uninteresting, more interesting would be dither, resolution, > > paper type, image type and so on). > > > > The KDE team says that full CUPS integration will come with 2.1. Until > now one can at least print using the standard dialog. For the special > options you should adjust them with xpp or qtcups and save them so that > they apply to all your printing jobs. So keep an options dialog of one > of these printing tools open so that you can set options before you > print. Kups has a really nice printing possibility (though it lacks printing of pdf files or graphic files). That is the one which I'd like to see in the most applications. I don't know well what the LSB is doing about printing, but a API above CUPS/LP/... would be very useful (which would automatically have all the option which the underlying printer system supports). I read on the corel homepage that corel (and others) is involved with the community to create such a standard though I don't know how much is has progressed so far. Best regards, Reinhard Katzmann -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Cups-Driver: Remarks
Reinhard Katzmann wrote: > > Hi Till! > > Some remarks to the configure options: > The default for my gimp-print printer setting > is somewhat strange: 720 DPI driver, 180x180DPI physical. > It would be more logical to have 720 DPI both (I would > prefer 360 DPI both by default). > Which printer model do you have? In general, the default options of every printer driver can changed permanently: In the web interface go to the printers page and click on the "Configure Printer" button in its entry. On the upcoming page set the options and click the "Accept" button of the section where you have done a change. Use the "Back" button of your browser to make changes in the other sections. In KUPS click on the desired printer with the right mouse button and choose "Configure" in the menu. The configured options will apply to the printing jobs of all users of the machine now. For personal defaults start xpp or qtcups and click on "Options" or "Properties". After changing the options click the "Save" button in the dialog and your settings apply to all your print jobs (they are saved in ~/.lpoptions) including KDE and GNOME jobs (they all call the lpr command which is replaced by the lpr program of CUPS in Mandrake 7.2). In applications as Netscape or gv choose "xpp" or "qtcups" as printing command. > One wish: As every printer has dirrerent resolutions there > should either be a possibility to copy printer entries and > only rename the printer name as a first step or (would be > MUCH better IMHO) to be able to change it before printing. > Of course this is application dependent, so programs like > acroread and wordperfect will never have it :-( > > I just hope that at least the Gnome and KDE will support all > preferences of the CUPS API if Cups is installed. (Currently > KDE is a little bit ahead, but only with the paper size, which > is uninteresting, more interesting would be dither, resolution, > paper type, image type and so on). > The KDE team says that full CUPS integration will come with 2.1. Until now one can at least print using the standard dialog. For the special options you should adjust them with xpp or qtcups and save them so that they apply to all your printing jobs. So keep an options dialog of one of these printing tools open so that you can set options before you print. Till
