Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
I have this WONDERFUL idea. Why don't you report these problems to the KDE bug reporting systems where they mayt actually do some good. From any KDE application choose Help--Report Bugs. I just package what I am given. Putting these long reports here do not help. -Chris On Friday 24 November 2000 22:41, Peter Ruskin wrote: My test results: On Wednesday 22 November 2000 19:24, Christopher Molnar wrote: For all of you who have a long weekend, here is something to play with - a QT2 and a KDE update: (Someone PLEASE let me know they where able to properly install): On Monday 20 November 2000 14:51, I wrote: --- 2. "Error - Potato Guy: Fatal error: I could not load the pictures. I'll quit." Still the same. 3. KSmileTris: crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT). Still the same. 5. KDevelop and/or KDevelop Setup: crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) - I only clicked the launch icon. Still the same. Then I put the kidewrite.desktop file in my ~/.kde/share/applnk/Applications/Editors directory and, just like the last time KDevelop doesn't crash, but it doesn't work either - it's just a skeleton. The right-hand pane is always empty; icons are all "unknown"; no library documentation; no setup. You can create what is called a "Projectspace" and files are generated but you can't see them. 6. Konqueror: I like the colour when you type man:ls in the address bar. As file manager, when I change directory (~ to ~/.kde), .kde contents show briefly, then ~ contents show again - it's fast but that's not good. Still the same. 7. KDE System Control: still very weak compared to kudzu. Still the same - this app is useless. 8. Configuration|Printing|QT CUPS: nothing happens when you click this (probably nothing to do with KDE though). Still the same. 9. KIconEdit: doesn't appear on menus. Still the same. It works really well though. 10. Kaiman: good to see it working (badged GQmpeg?), but it's too small on the screen. Still the same. 11. KMid: no menu item. Didn't try this - I've uninstalled menu (I had to force kdebase because it wanted me to have menu installed and I'm not playing!-)) 12. KMidi: not working. "/usr/share/apps/kmidi/config/timidity.cfg: No such file or directory Try kmidi -h for help ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!" Still the same. 14. KMail|Settings|Configuration|Composer|Language: Only English US (C) allowed! This has been fixed. 15. KOffice still very much work in progress, although some improvement in Office97 imports. No change here. Address Book: Every time I edit an entry, KAB assigns the current date to the birthday field if empty. I haven't found a way to delete this. KJots: I found the option to change editor fonts and thought - heh, this is usable - then I changed my mind as I kept writing new subjects (for this mail) and they weren't getting saved. Now using good old Text Editor (KEdit) - still the best! KChart: After changing a few chart parameters KChart froze. I could still resize and move the main window but couldn't close it. After 2 minutes I was about to kill it when it came to life showing a dialog. Can't work with this app yet. KIllustrator: Node edit not working properly. The polygon tool just draws triangles, so I tried to add a node - unsuccessfully. KWord: It can now print arial and palladio as well as times but it can't print any special characters (dingbats, symbols) and the like, although it renders them on screen OK. Text selection with the mouse is _awful_. This app still unusable. KSpread: Can't import excel again. Previous version could. Konv: Very good little conversion app - better looking than kunit. Task Scheduler(KCron): Excellent. Kafka: Doesn't seem to do anything. Can't get it to load web pages. KEdit: Settings|Configure KEdit|Spelling - set client Aspell with British dictionary. Tools|Spelling provokes dialog: "ISpell could not be started. Please make sure you have ISpell properly configured and in your PATH." I would only want ISpell if it had a British dictionary, that's why I chose ASpell. This spoils a superb program. KSciPlot: Does nothing - even when stsrted from Konsole. KJezzball (kjezz): Crashed with signal 11. KNode: Looks cool but can't handle mulipart messages yet. LSkat: No cards. Previous version worked. KPatience (kpat): Crashes with signal 6. kPPP log viewer: Very strange - From Until Seconds Bytes in Bytes out 01:48 01:48 0 s 32.5 MB 733.2 KB
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
Christopher Molnar wrote: I have this WONDERFUL idea. Why don't you report these problems to the KDE bug reporting systems where they mayt actually do some good. From any KDE application choose Help--Report Bugs. I just package what I am given. Putting these long reports here do not help. Chris, while I agree to some extent, this is a forum where people feel they can talk to Mandrake itself. I hope it's not too much of a stretch of your imagination to see that reporting that Mandrake's overzealous jump to KDE2.0 has resulted in a distribution that can no longer be recommended to newcomers. I suspect that some of desired impact of reporting KDE problems here has this idea as a target. It's a shame this has to be explained to Mandrake staff but I guess that's the real root of the problem. But unless companies like Mandrake take a more conservative approach to distribution release, it will never be a true desktop option for most people. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
On Saturday 25 November 2000 08:03 am, Christopher Molnar wrote: I have this WONDERFUL idea. Why don't you report these problems to the KDE bug reporting systems where they mayt actually do some good. From any KDE application choose Help--Report Bugs. I just package what I am given. Putting these long reports here do not help. -Chris A better 'wonderful' idea. I hope y'all join me in expressing thanks to Chris for his wonderful efforts. (period) I don't have any opportunity to join in cooker testing much other than what Chris provides. 50mb i can d/l over 28,8, cooker i can't. I'm only a sophmore linux user, but it's sort'a kind'a apparent to me which are underlying distro and KDE2 problems and those that belong to the myriad of software applications that run on it... ie' K' apps. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 25 November 2000 08:03 am, Christopher Molnar wrote: I have this WONDERFUL idea. Why don't you report these problems to the KDE bug reporting systems where they mayt actually do some good. From any KDE application choose Help--Report Bugs. I just package what I am given. Putting these long reports here do not help. -Chris A better 'wonderful' idea. I hope y'all join me in expressing thanks to Chris for his wonderful efforts. (period) I don't have any opportunity to join in cooker testing much other than what Chris provides. 50mb i can d/l over 28,8, cooker i can't. I'm only a sophmore linux user, but it's sort'a kind'a apparent to me which are underlying distro and KDE2 problems and those that belong to the myriad of software applications that run on it... ie' K' apps. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay I most definitely have to agree Tom. Chris has done an AWESOME job and I for one am enjoying his efforts. cu:-)) Spence
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
My test results: On Wednesday 22 November 2000 19:24, Christopher Molnar wrote: For all of you who have a long weekend, here is something to play with - a QT2 and a KDE update: (Someone PLEASE let me know they where able to properly install): On Monday 20 November 2000 14:51, I wrote: --- 2. "Error - Potato Guy: Fatal error: I could not load the pictures. I'll quit." Still the same. 3. KSmileTris: crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT). Still the same. 5. KDevelop and/or KDevelop Setup: crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) - I only clicked the launch icon. Still the same. Then I put the kidewrite.desktop file in my ~/.kde/share/applnk/Applications/Editors directory and, just like the last time KDevelop doesn't crash, but it doesn't work either - it's just a skeleton. The right-hand pane is always empty; icons are all "unknown"; no library documentation; no setup. You can create what is called a "Projectspace" and files are generated but you can't see them. 6. Konqueror: I like the colour when you type man:ls in the address bar. As file manager, when I change directory (~ to ~/.kde), .kde contents show briefly, then ~ contents show again - it's fast but that's not good. Still the same. 7. KDE System Control: still very weak compared to kudzu. Still the same - this app is useless. 8. Configuration|Printing|QT CUPS: nothing happens when you click this (probably nothing to do with KDE though). Still the same. 9. KIconEdit: doesn't appear on menus. Still the same. It works really well though. 10. Kaiman: good to see it working (badged GQmpeg?), but it's too small on the screen. Still the same. 11. KMid: no menu item. Didn't try this - I've uninstalled menu (I had to force kdebase because it wanted me to have menu installed and I'm not playing!-)) 12. KMidi: not working. "/usr/share/apps/kmidi/config/timidity.cfg: No such file or directory Try kmidi -h for help ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!" Still the same. 14. KMail|Settings|Configuration|Composer|Language: Only English US (C) allowed! This has been fixed. 15. KOffice still very much work in progress, although some improvement in Office97 imports. No change here. Address Book: Every time I edit an entry, KAB assigns the current date to the birthday field if empty. I haven't found a way to delete this. KJots: I found the option to change editor fonts and thought - heh, this is usable - then I changed my mind as I kept writing new subjects (for this mail) and they weren't getting saved. Now using good old Text Editor (KEdit) - still the best! KChart: After changing a few chart parameters KChart froze. I could still resize and move the main window but couldn't close it. After 2 minutes I was about to kill it when it came to life showing a dialog. Can't work with this app yet. KIllustrator: Node edit not working properly. The polygon tool just draws triangles, so I tried to add a node - unsuccessfully. KWord: It can now print arial and palladio as well as times but it can't print any special characters (dingbats, symbols) and the like, although it renders them on screen OK. Text selection with the mouse is _awful_. This app still unusable. KSpread: Can't import excel again. Previous version could. Konv: Very good little conversion app - better looking than kunit. Task Scheduler(KCron): Excellent. Kafka: Doesn't seem to do anything. Can't get it to load web pages. KEdit: Settings|Configure KEdit|Spelling - set client Aspell with British dictionary. Tools|Spelling provokes dialog: "ISpell could not be started. Please make sure you have ISpell properly configured and in your PATH." I would only want ISpell if it had a British dictionary, that's why I chose ASpell. This spoils a superb program. KSciPlot: Does nothing - even when stsrted from Konsole. KJezzball (kjezz): Crashed with signal 11. KNode: Looks cool but can't handle mulipart messages yet. LSkat: No cards. Previous version worked. KPatience (kpat): Crashes with signal 6. kPPP log viewer: Very strange - From Until Seconds Bytes in Bytes out 01:48 01:48 0 s 32.5 MB 733.2 KB -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Preferred desktop environment KDE 1.1.2 Linux 2.2.17-27mdk, Uptime 5 hours 56 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
Christopher Molnar a écrit : For all of you who have a long weekend, here is something to play with - a QT2 and a KDE update: (Someone PLEASE let me know they where able to properly install): I have tested on a LM7.2 install, a clean one. 1/ For installation I had to perform a rpm -Fvh --force *.rpm because of the following error : file /usr/bin/kjezz from install of kdegames-2.0.1-0.1mdk conflicts with file from package kdeaddutils-2.0-3mdk file /usr/bin/kpaint from install of kdegraphics-2.0.1-0.1mdk conflicts with file from package kdeaddutils-2.0-3mdk 2/ I had to run update-menus then logout/login to get icons back. 3/ Basic tests show that it works, seems fast, nice, enhanced ... 4/ But you will not put a KDE 2 package upgrade for LM 7.2 ... Sad. Very sad. 5/ the list of files I used (downloaded on 22th nov): kdeadmin-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-devel-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-2.0.1-.1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-2.0.1-.1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-2.0-6.2mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-nsplugins-2.0.1-.1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-devel-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-devel-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdoc-2.0.1-0.1mdk.noarch.rpm kdelibs-devel-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpmkoffice-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm koffice-devel-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-devel-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm libical-0.20d-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpmqt2-2.2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-devel-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm qt2-devel-2.2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm qt2-doc-2.2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
--- Christopher Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all of you who have a long weekend, here is something to play with - a QT2 and a KDE update: (Someone PLEASE let me know they where able to properly install): ... -Chris Hey CM: All installed except for kdepim which requires pilot-link package(for libpisock) that I don't have installed. Also,I installed the kdeiwrite file as you suggested before the upgrade to the new files but kdevelop still crashed with the SIG11 . It still won't run. I'm testing the rest It sure is nice *not* to have the menu and Konq crash and burn tho. Thanx. rj = Regards, rj I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it. -Morpheus, The Matrix .lll .°¿° . ~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
--- Christopher Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all of you who have a long weekend, here is something to play with - a QT2 and a KDE update: (Someone PLEASE let me know they where able to properly install): ... -Chris Hey CM: All installed except for kdepim which requires pilot-link package(for libpisock) that I don't have installed. Also,I installed the kdeiwrite file as you suggested before the upgrade to the new files but kdevelop still crashed with the SIG11 . It still won't run. I'm testing the rest It sure is nice *not* to have the menu and Konq crash and burn tho. Thanx. rj = Regards, rj I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it. -Morpheus, The Matrix .lll .°¿° . ~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
in some ftp is missing kdeaddutils-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm On Wednesday 22 November 2000 19:24, you wrote: For all of you who have a long weekend, here is something to play with - a QT2 and a KDE update: (Someone PLEASE let me know they where able to properly install): I have made a KDE and QT2 (2.2.2) update available at the following locations: http://www.nebsllc.com/KDE_UPDATE ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE http://us.mandrakesoft.cokdeaddutils-2.0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpmm/~molnarc/KDE_UPDATE ftp://us.mandrakesoft.com/pub/kde/KDE_UPDATE https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/KDE_UPDATE These updates are specific for 7.2 and folks use them at their own risk. The code has been updated from KDE 2.0 and is now very close to the 2.0.1 release. (note the 0.1mdk in the version #'s). kdevelop is NOT included, it may be later this evening if I get it to work. Please check back for that. If people are using MandrakeUpdate to install these packages they MUST accept an unsigned package. I am leaving unsigned to make sure everyone knows it is NOT an official distribution. I am in the process of uploading SRPMS to the directories as well. For those in the U.S. - Have a Happy Thanksgiving and eat LOT's of turkey! Then on Friday, go shopping and remember Mandrake 7.2 makes a GREAT stocking stuffer :-) -Chris -- Luis Antonio Ferreira Alves LESI www.di.uminho.pt email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5061305
Re: [Cooker] Fwd: Re: GNOME, KDE and Mandrakesoft (fwd)
On Wednesday 22 November 2000 20:24, Christopher Molnar wrote: For all of you who have a long weekend, here is something to play with - a QT2 and a KDE update: (Someone PLEASE let me know they where able to properly install): They install work fine. But kdeaddutils quanta are not there. I didn't downloaded KOffice, 'couse I can't get KWord to work. An old problem - fonts disappear. Thanks Chris once again for good work. Happy Thankgiving to all Mandrakes. Regards, Zeljko Vukman
