Re: [Cooker] KDE RC3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Fox wrote: | You are NOT alone. | But remember that this list is for DEVELOPERS mainly ... | Don't let the lack of attention get you down, Mandrake is not the most | attentive company out there . . . | Mandrake (and probably most other software companies) can not afford to employ people to answer everyone's questions. If you want someone to listen to everything you say, go see a shrink. Cooker is a busy list. If you have a specific question (which is not off-topic or a help request) or a bug-report, it helps to cc the maintainer. Use rpmmon or rpm -q --changelog to see who that might be. Remember that if everyone is answering email, who's doing the development? I don't think, however, that you can call Mandrake inattentive. I guess you have all had email from developers at Microsoft, SUN, Redhat, SuSE when asking trivial questions? There are certain individuals at Mandrake who put in a terrific amount of effort in answering user questions (on the newbie and experts lists and on Mandrakeforum). | even though they have a strong | community of enthusiastic and caring users The Mandrake community (and the way Mandrakesoft promotes it) makes the distribution (both literally and figuratively). | - sometimes the calls for | alarm fall on deaf ears. Sometimes calls for alarm are not justified, sometimes they are not sufficiently detailed for the developer to be able to reproduce or fix. | It's a shame. Most people here, I think, have a different opinoin, that we wouldn't have it any other way ... In the meantime, watch the KDE mirrors, as I am sure RPMs will appear there soon (as they usually do). Buchan - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE8mxDnrJK6UGDSBKcRAi5NAJ9QGue/wnI/siSYVB21dd44S1/qzwCeOUN7 MfOBSvBUIKU8Ld+2Wk5sHnU= =NqzU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] KDE RC3
On Freitag, 22. März 2002 11:38:11, Robert Fox wrote: > You are NOT alone. > > Don't let the lack of attention get you down, Mandrake is not the most > attentive company out there . . . even though they have a strong > community of enthusiastic and caring users - sometimes the calls for > alarm fall on deaf ears. It's a shame. > > R.Fox > Thanks! Now I'm feeling a little better.
Re: [Cooker] KDE RC3
You are NOT alone. Don't let the lack of attention get you down, Mandrake is not the most attentive company out there . . . even though they have a strong community of enthusiastic and caring users - sometimes the calls for alarm fall on deaf ears. It's a shame. R.Fox On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 11:25, RA wrote: > On Freitag, 22. März 2002 01:27:01, David BAUDENS wrote: > > On Thursday 21 March 2002 22:08, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > > > Now that Mandrake 8.2 is out, is there any chance someone might be > > > baking some nice KDE 3 RC3 binaries (official or not)? Andreas > > > sounded pretty enthusiastic in his post to the Dot this morning... > > > > Hum, well, let me see... I have reinstalled our KDE build machine to be > > able to build quickly KDE packages for all distributions we are > > supporting, Laurent fight with RC3 packages and the build machine > > complaint saying 'I want hollidays!'... So, hum, yes? > > > > Just wait some time. > > (http://www.mandrake.com/en/archives/cooker/2002-03/msg03182.php) > > Perhaps I'm thin-skinned. But sometimes I believe that only a few people > got answers to their emails. And I'm one of these guys making noise in your > ml. > >From my point of view this holds true not only for such questions as above, > but generally. > I posted some bugs during the beta/rc period of 8.2. Regarding those bugs > which I was the only one who committed - okay, not many, perhaps only one or > two - I got no response at all. I had to wait for a new package each day, > looking changelogs, when it was changed. I often saw better examples of > reactions of package maintainers/developers. > Don't understand me wrong. It could be that I'm greatly thin-skinned and > frustrated. And probably my bug reports and RPM packages are bad. But I think > that my criticism described a real trend. > > Ralf. > >
Re: [Cooker] KDE RC3
On Freitag, 22. März 2002 01:27:01, David BAUDENS wrote: > On Thursday 21 March 2002 22:08, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > > Now that Mandrake 8.2 is out, is there any chance someone might be > > baking some nice KDE 3 RC3 binaries (official or not)? Andreas > > sounded pretty enthusiastic in his post to the Dot this morning... > > Hum, well, let me see... I have reinstalled our KDE build machine to be > able to build quickly KDE packages for all distributions we are > supporting, Laurent fight with RC3 packages and the build machine > complaint saying 'I want hollidays!'... So, hum, yes? > > Just wait some time. (http://www.mandrake.com/en/archives/cooker/2002-03/msg03182.php) Perhaps I'm thin-skinned. But sometimes I believe that only a few people got answers to their emails. And I'm one of these guys making noise in your ml. >From my point of view this holds true not only for such questions as above, but generally. I posted some bugs during the beta/rc period of 8.2. Regarding those bugs which I was the only one who committed - okay, not many, perhaps only one or two - I got no response at all. I had to wait for a new package each day, looking changelogs, when it was changed. I often saw better examples of reactions of package maintainers/developers. Don't understand me wrong. It could be that I'm greatly thin-skinned and frustrated. And probably my bug reports and RPM packages are bad. But I think that my criticism described a real trend. Ralf.
Re: [Cooker] KDE RC3
On Thursday 21 March 2002 22:08, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > Now that Mandrake 8.2 is out, is there any chance someone might be > baking some nice KDE 3 RC3 binaries (official or not)? Andreas > sounded pretty enthusiastic in his post to the Dot this morning... Hum, well, let me see... I have reinstalled our KDE build machine to be able to build quickly KDE packages for all distributions we are supporting, Laurent fight with RC3 packages and the build machine complaint saying 'I want hollidays!'... So, hum, yes? Just wait some time. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
