Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 10:49, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). is it possible to do an install (eg: with cd or hd) and tell me if at reboot it works ? Chmouel, I copied the entire (2.4 gig) Cooker to the notebook and tried and install from the latest hd.img Result: Installed fine but did not find the PC-CARD during install, but after reboot the card was there, but I had to manually (using Draknet) configure the DHCP client for eth0 - the card was enabled but NO IP addressed during reboot. what output of cardct ident ?
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Here you go - Socket 0: product info: Xircom, CardBus Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56, CBEM56G, 1.03 manfid: 0x0105, 0x0103 function: 6 (network) Socket 1: no product info available I have to manually run DHCPD everytime - for some strange reason. But the card works. Robert On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 11:42, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 10:49, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). is it possible to do an install (eg: with cd or hd) and tell me if at reboot it works ? Chmouel, I copied the entire (2.4 gig) Cooker to the notebook and tried and install from the latest hd.img Result: Installed fine but did not find the PC-CARD during install, but after reboot the card was there, but I had to manually (using Draknet) configure the DHCP client for eth0 - the card was enabled but NO IP addressed during reboot. what output of cardct ident ?
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: Here you go - Socket 0: product info: Xircom, CardBus Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56, CBEM56G, 1.03 manfid: 0x0105, 0x0103 function: 6 (network) Socket 1: no product info available humm and what the output of /proc/modules ? I have to manually run DHCPD everytime - for some strange reason. But the card works. you got to reconfigure your network;
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
I did reconfigure the network - but the settings don't seem to stick for the reboot . . . Here's the /proc/modules per you request: af_packet 12648 1 (autoclean) cs46xx 55240 4 soundcore 4292 3 [cs46xx] ac97_codec 9344 0 [cs46xx] xircom_cb 5696 1 ds 6944 2 yenta_socket9536 2 pcmcia_core41856 0 [ds yenta_socket] keybdev 2016 0 (unused) mousedev4288 1 hid18624 0 (unused) usbmouse2112 0 (unused) input 3712 0 [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse] usb-uhci 21636 0 (unused) usbcore51648 1 [hid usbmouse usb-uhci] nls_iso8859-1 2880 3 (autoclean) nls_cp850 3616 3 (autoclean) vfat 10076 3 (autoclean) fat32568 0 (autoclean) [vfat] rtc 5848 0 (autoclean) reiserfs 158368 2 On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 14:28, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: humm and what the output of /proc/modules ? I have to manually run DHCPD everytime - for some strange reason. But the card works. you got to reconfigure your network;
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: I did reconfigure the network - but the settings don't seem to stick for the reboot . . . cat /etc/sysconfig/netw*/ifcfg-eth0 ? Here's the /proc/modules per you request: look like it doen't load xircom_cb, we'll look at that.
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 15:16, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: I did reconfigure the network - but the settings don't seem to stick for the reboot . . . cat /etc/sysconfig/netw*/ifcfg-eth0 ? Say what? Thanks anyway, I got it to work now usinf Linuxconf instead of Draknet to configure the dhcp on startup . . Here's the /proc/modules per you request: look like it doen't load xircom_cb, we'll look at that. When you say it doesn't load the xircom_cb module, what do you mean? I see that module on the right hand side fifth item down? Thanks, Robert
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 15:16, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: I did reconfigure the network - but the settings don't seem to stick for the reboot . . . cat /etc/sysconfig/netw*/ifcfg-eth0 ? Say what? Thanks anyway, I got it to work now usinf Linuxconf instead of Draknet to configure the dhcp on startup . . fill a bug about draknet please. Here's the /proc/modules per you request: look like it doen't load xircom_cb, we'll look at that. When you say it doesn't load the xircom_cb module, what do you mean? I see that module on the right hand side fifth item down? well maybe it load it but look like he have some psychologique problem to use it. -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). ok that normal the xircom_cb is not yet ported..
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). is it possible to do an install (eg: with cd or hd) and tell me if at reboot it works ?
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). ok that normal the xircom_cb is not yet ported.. uh? [gc@obiwan ~/cvs/gi] find all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/ | grep xircom all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_cb.o all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). I have used Cooker successfully up until the time that the pcmcia services were moved to the kernel and the mandrake install wasn't updated. I was able to manually install the external PCMCIA services and load the card this way - I was waiting for the Mandrake install to catch up with the kernel (regarding pcmcia) You mean that with 2.4.12/13 with the kernel pcmcia it works after install but not during install ?? What is the PCMCIA driver being used ? Pretty much incredible, I don't understand what's going on... -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). ok that normal the xircom_cb is not yet ported.. uh? [gc@obiwan ~/cvs/gi] find all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/ | grep xircom all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_cb.o all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o was before i was going in vacation 8-(, so please tell me if it works after install...
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ok that normal the xircom_cb is not yet ported.. uh? [gc@obiwan ~/cvs/gi] find all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/ | grep xircom all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_cb.o all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o was before i was going in vacation 8-(, so please tell me if it works after install... Problem is that -during- stage1 it doesn't even try to load this module! Which is rather strange. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ok that normal the xircom_cb is not yet ported.. uh? [gc@obiwan ~/cvs/gi] find all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/ | grep xircom all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_cb.o all.kernels/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/lib/modules/2.4.13-9mdkBOOT/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o was before i was going in vacation 8-(, so please tell me if it works after install... Problem is that -during- stage1 it doesn't even try to load this module! Which is rather strange. i got to know if it works after install before to debug it..
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 10:49, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). is it possible to do an install (eg: with cd or hd) and tell me if at reboot it works ? Chmouel, I have the full Cooker on a desktop and use ProFTP for the install over a 100M home net . . . In order to do the HD install, I'd have to copy the WHOLE thing over to the notebook - or use the mkcd.pl script to cut some CDs (but I haven't had much luck creating CDs from Cooker lately!) I guess I could copy the Cooker over if you think it's important . . . Let me know. Cheers, Robert Fox
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 10:49, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). is it possible to do an install (eg: with cd or hd) and tell me if at reboot it works ? Chmouel, I have the full Cooker on a desktop and use ProFTP for the install over a 100M home net . . . In order to do the HD install, I'd have to copy the WHOLE thing over to the notebook - or use the mkcd.pl script to cut some CDs (but I haven't had much luck creating CDs from Cooker lately!) I guess I could copy the Cooker over if you think it's important . . . i believe that some isos cd's of cooker soon, warly ?
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 10:49, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). is it possible to do an install (eg: with cd or hd) and tell me if at reboot it works ? Chmouel, I have the full Cooker on a desktop and use ProFTP for the install over a 100M home net . . . In order to do the HD install, I'd have to copy the WHOLE thing over to the notebook - or use the mkcd.pl script to cut some CDs (but I haven't had much luck creating CDs from Cooker lately!) I guess I could copy the Cooker over if you think it's important . . . i believe that some isos cd's of cooker soon, warly ? yes, likely next week. Need to look at mkcd2 to check if it still can build CDs, though. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 10:49, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). is it possible to do an install (eg: with cd or hd) and tell me if at reboot it works ? Chmouel, I copied the entire (2.4 gig) Cooker to the notebook and tried and install from the latest hd.img Result: Installed fine but did not find the PC-CARD during install, but after reboot the card was there, but I had to manually (using Draknet) configure the DHCP client for eth0 - the card was enabled but NO IP addressed during reboot. Cheers, Robert Fox
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: I have tried the latest Cooker install dated 26.11.01 on a Gateway Solo 9150XL notebook (which works fine with 8.1 and previous Cookers) trying to do a network install using a Xircom Cardbus Realport Ethernet card. Using PCMCIA.IMG (install kernel 2.4.13-9mdkBoot), the system beeps and says under the logs that the PCMCIA controller is found - with on warning stating: Card Services release does not match kernel (generally harmless) This is inconsistent. I've disabled the beeping while I've modified the error message to include generally harmless, so both can't happen together... or I've really been on drugs. But the Ethernet card is not initialised and states no NET device found when I try the FTP install. Please copy full log from console #3 and console #4. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Sorry for my ignorance, but how do I copy the logs? By hand? Or is there a trick to dump the logs to a file for sending? Thx, R. Fox On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 10:48, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Please copy full log from console #3 and console #4. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: Sorry for my ignorance, but how do I copy the logs? By hand? Or is there a trick to dump the logs to a file for sending? By hand :-). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
RE: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Sorry for my ignorance, but how do I copy the logs? By hand? Or is there a trick to dump the logs to a file for sending? By hand :-). Sorry? Was it not bug command?
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
OK - Here goes (man is this painful!) ALT-F3 Logs: * Welcome to te Mandrake Linux install (mdk-stage1, version cooker built Nov 26 2001 17:53:32) * opening /proc/cmdline. . . * ramdisk_size=32000 initrd=pcmcia.rdz root=/dev/ram3 vga=788 BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz auto * got 6 args * spawning a shell * cannot open shell - /tmp/sh doesn't exist * loading module dependencies * PCMCIA: probing PCI bus * TI 1225 found, 2 sockets * have to insmod pcmcia_core * needs pcmcia_core * succeeded pcmcia_core * have to insmod yenta_socket * needs yenta_socket * succeeded yenta_socket * have to insmod ds * needs ds * succeeded ds * CM: cardmgr/hacked starting, version is 3.1.29 * CM: watching 2 sockets * CM: warning, Card Services release does not match kernel (generally harmless) * CM: initializing socket 0 * CM: socket 0: CardBus hotplug device * cardmgr rc:0 * Total Memory: 320 Mbytes * PCI: device 8086 7112 is (usb-uhci) * have to insmod usb-uhci * needs usbcore * file-not-found-in-archive usbcore.o * needs usb-uhci * file-not-found-in-archive usb-uhci.o * warning insmod failed (usb-uhci (null)) (2) * USB: couldnt mount /proc/bus/usb * unsetting automatic ALT-F4 (kernel log) SNIP 6 Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 6 options: [pci] [cardbus] 4 Yenta IRQ list 0cb8, PCI irq9 4 Socket status: 3006 6 cs: cb_alloc(bus 2): vendor 0x115d, device 0x0003 4 PCI: Enabling device 02:00.0 ( - 0003) 4 PCI: Enabling device 02:00.1 ( - 0003) 6 cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean 6 cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x2f8-0x2ff 0x378-0x37f 0x398-0x39f 0x3f8-0x3ff 0x4d0-0x4d7 6 IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean Hope this helps - It would be nice to have a way to DUMP this information to a file (log) which can be copied to a floppy for sending further on . . . just an idea . . Chees, R. Fox PS: I can't be responsible for TYPOS! On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 11:14, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: Sorry for my ignorance, but how do I copy the logs? By hand? Or is there a trick to dump the logs to a file for sending? By hand :-). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for my ignorance, but how do I copy the logs? By hand? Or is there a trick to dump the logs to a file for sending? By hand :-). Sorry? Was it not bug command? This is a problem with stage1, e.g. before DrakX, e.g. before graphical mode. bug only reports stuff during graphical mode. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: OK - Here goes (man is this painful!) Thanks!! [...] * CM: cardmgr/hacked starting, version is 3.1.29 * CM: watching 2 sockets * CM: warning, Card Services release does not match kernel (generally harmless) * CM: initializing socket 0 * CM: socket 0: CardBus hotplug device * cardmgr rc:0 Means that cardmgr exits without loading any module for your pcmcia network card. Do you have any idea why ? Does it work after install ? Is this a PCI pcmcia network card ? Chmouel -- apparently his network pcmcia card was correctly detected and used in 8.1 but no more with new pcmcia of Cooker, any idea ? Is there any known regression in support (documented ;p) ? [...] Hope this helps - It would be nice to have a way to DUMP this information to a file (log) which can be copied to a floppy for sending further on . . . just an idea . . Right -- but the problem is that we have very limited space in stage1 and I don't have vfat module (so you would need to insert an ext2 floppy) nor code to dump contents to a file -- and use is quite limited since mostly stage1 works or when it doesn't work bugs are located and reproduce here at mandrake. But on my todo I will just copy this log to another file and this will be included in report.bug available when you reach graphical install. I won't solve the problem of when you can't even reach graphical install, thus. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: Hope this helps - It would be nice to have a way to DUMP this information to a file (log) which can be copied to a floppy for sending further on . . . just an idea . . what kind of card it doen't detect exactly ?
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 14:05, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: Hope this helps - It would be nice to have a way to DUMP this information to a file (log) which can be copied to a floppy for sending further on . . . just an idea . . what kind of card it doen't detect exactly ? Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 (RBEM56G-100)
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:52, you wrote: Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 (RBEM56G-100) Interesting that it's that particular card. I spoke with David Hinds (PCMCIA kernel guy) a while back, about a different issue with that particular module, and he replied that the module is buggy - so there might be an issue there... -- john in syd
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 12:16, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Means that cardmgr exits without loading any module for your pcmcia network card. Do you have any idea why ? Does it work after install ? Is this a PCI pcmcia network card ? Chmouel -- apparently his network pcmcia card was correctly detected and used in 8.1 but no more with new pcmcia of Cooker, any idea ? Is there any known regression in support (documented ;p) ? Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ The card is a PCMCIA Type III - Xircom Realport cardbus (Ethernet, modem/isdn) combination (RBEM 10/100). I have used Cooker successfully up until the time that the pcmcia services were moved to the kernel and the mandrake install wasn't updated. I was able to manually install the external PCMCIA services and load the card this way - I was waiting for the Mandrake install to catch up with the kernel (regarding pcmcia) The card is working fine because I have other OSs as multiboot on it ... no problem. Last Cooker which worked previously (after installing the external PCMCIA card services) was about two weeks ago (kernel-2.4.12-3mdk). R. Fox
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 03:02, John Haywood wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:52, you wrote: Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 (RBEM56G-100) Interesting that it's that particular card. I spoke with David Hinds (PCMCIA kernel guy) a while back, about a different issue with that particular module, and he replied that the module is buggy - so there might be an issue there... -- john in syd Strange - because up until now, I have have had ZERO problems with the card under Mandrake Linux (from 7.2 up to recent Cooker stuff) - Something has changed with the module which causes this problem . . . Thx, R. Fox
Re: [Cooker] New COOKER install (26.11.01) PCMCIA.IMG NOGO
On Monday 26 November 2001 03:15 pm, you wrote: Uuugh.. I have a Solo 9100 - biggest mistake I ever made.. but... I have tried the latest Cooker install dated 26.11.01 on a Gateway Solo 9150XL notebook (which works fine with 8.1 and previous Cookers) trying to do a network install using a Xircom Cardbus Realport Ethernet card. Using PCMCIA.IMG (install kernel 2.4.13-9mdkBoot), the system beeps and says under the logs that the PCMCIA controller is found - with on warning stating: Card Services release does not match kernel (generally harmless) But the Ethernet card is not initialised and states no NET device found when I try the FTP install. Something missing here? I did this a few nights ago - the installer probably doesn't know that it has to install the pcmcia-cs package. I had exactly the same problem. If dual boot, boot to windows, download the pcmcia-cs package, reboot to linux, then install it. Messy, but works. Better alternative - rerun the setup program, tell it it's an Expert Update, click to show the list of packages, manually select the pcmcia-cs package, and after updating with any updates since the previous install and installing the package, will configure the network from the parameters you put in to do the install. Works great. Thanks. Vinny
