Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-05 Thread anyone

Bill Greenwood wrote:
> 
> Mike--- I suggest you burn another CD, as it looks like that one has a
> bad spot where it is trying to access that bit of information.  I
> suggest you burn it at a slower speed, possibly half the speed from your
> first one.  It may be that brand of CD-R as Warly also suggested.
> 
> Warly suggested that you do that because of the error information you
> submitted.
> 
> --Bill
> 
> ===
> 
> Mike Eheler wrote:
> 
> >>1. burn a new CD
> >>
> >
> >Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
> >that I've done. None have worked.
> >
> >>2. try new CDR brand
> >>
> >
> >I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
> >so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
> >
> >>3. change your CD drive
> >>
> >
> >I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> >3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> >writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> >with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
> >
> >>4. change your burner
> >>
> >
> >Ha!
> >
> >>5. do not test
> >>
> >
> >So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> >you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> >8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
> >
> >>Warly
> >>
> >
> >Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> >have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> >figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> >accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> >to mount the drive.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >

You can extract the .rpm packages from .iso image to HD and install from
there.

Irek




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-05 Thread richard bown


Thanks I know I should have, thats the penalty for being lazy, slapped
wrists
On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 09:50, Baal wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 04:46, richard bown wrote:
> > Mike try downloading from another mirror, I found on the swedish site
> > cello.se cd 2 on beta 3 must have been corrupted, the file size was
> > correct on download, but during a burn it always stopped about half way
> > through the write cycle,.
> > A second download from the same site gave the same, downloading from
> > another site cured it...maybe worth a try??
> 
> You should check the md5sums of your isos instead of just comparing their size... 
>More information is available here: http://linuxiso.org/md5sum.html
> 
> Rergards
> 
> Baal
> > HTH richard
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 00:48, Mike Eheler wrote:
> > > > 1. burn a new CD
> > > 
> > > Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
> > > that I've done. None have worked.
> > > 
> > > > 2. try new CDR brand 
> > > 
> > > I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
> > > so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
> > > 
> > > > 3. change your CD drive
> > > 
> > > I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> > > 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> > > writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> > > with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
> > > 
> > > > 4. change your burner
> > > 
> > > Ha!
> > > 
> > > > 5. do not test
> > > 
> > > So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> > > you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> > > 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
> > > 
> > > > Warly
> > > 
> > > Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> > > have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> > > figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> > > accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> > > to mount the drive.
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 






Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-05 Thread Baal

On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 04:46, richard bown wrote:
> Mike try downloading from another mirror, I found on the swedish site
> cello.se cd 2 on beta 3 must have been corrupted, the file size was
> correct on download, but during a burn it always stopped about half way
> through the write cycle,.
> A second download from the same site gave the same, downloading from
> another site cured it...maybe worth a try??

You should check the md5sums of your isos instead of just comparing their size... More 
information is available here: http://linuxiso.org/md5sum.html

Rergards

Baal
> HTH richard
> 
> On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 00:48, Mike Eheler wrote:
> > > 1. burn a new CD
> > 
> > Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
> > that I've done. None have worked.
> > 
> > > 2. try new CDR brand 
> > 
> > I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
> > so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
> > 
> > > 3. change your CD drive
> > 
> > I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> > 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> > writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> > with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
> > 
> > > 4. change your burner
> > 
> > Ha!
> > 
> > > 5. do not test
> > 
> > So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> > you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> > 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
> > 
> > > Warly
> > 
> > Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> > have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> > figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> > accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> > to mount the drive.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> 
> 






Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-05 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen

On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 02:34:23PM +1300, Bill Greenwood wrote:
> 
> Mike--- I suggest you burn another CD, as it looks like that one has a 
> bad spot where it is trying to access that bit of information.  I 
> suggest you burn it at a slower speed, possibly half the speed from your 
> first one.  It may be that brand of CD-R as Warly also suggested.

Or install it from harddisk...

Kind regards
Keld




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-05 Thread richard bown

Mike try downloading from another mirror, I found on the swedish site
cello.se cd 2 on beta 3 must have been corrupted, the file size was
correct on download, but during a burn it always stopped about half way
through the write cycle,.
A second download from the same site gave the same, downloading from
another site cured it...maybe worth a try??

HTH richard

On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 00:48, Mike Eheler wrote:
> > 1. burn a new CD
> 
> Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
> that I've done. None have worked.
> 
> > 2. try new CDR brand 
> 
> I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
> so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
> 
> > 3. change your CD drive
> 
> I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
> 
> > 4. change your burner
> 
> Ha!
> 
> > 5. do not test
> 
> So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
> 
> > Warly
> 
> Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> to mount the drive.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 






Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Eheler

> > > 3. change your CD drive
> >
> > I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> > 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> > writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> > with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
> >
> 
> Go ahead and give it a shot. Adding the ide-scsi stuff is ultra easy.  when 
> setting up lilo add to the "append" field "hdx=ide-scsi". where hdx is your 
> drive.
> 

Well.. I got it installed. Found out after launching the installer that
there was a 3rd cd (contribs).. heh. Had to boot back into 8.1 to
download/burn the ISO. But now all is well and I must say beta 4 seems
to run quite smoothly.

> 
> >> > 5. do not test
> >
> > So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> > you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> > 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
> >
> > > Warly
> 
> I suspect someone was having a really BAD day.

You could say that ;)
Getting much better. My apologies to Warly for my snooty tone.

Mike





Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Randy K.Wilson

On Monday 04 March 2002 07:48 pm, you wrote:

> > 3. change your CD drive
>
> I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
>

Go ahead and give it a shot. Adding the ide-scsi stuff is ultra easy.  when 
setting up lilo add to the "append" field "hdx=ide-scsi". where hdx is your 
drive.




>> > 5. do not test
>
> So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
>
> > Warly

I suspect someone was having a really BAD day.
-- 



/.randy




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Leon Brooks

On Tuesday 05 March 2002 08:48, Mike Eheler wrote:
> Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> to mount the drive.

Had this occasionally with 7.1 and I think 8.0 on some older machines. 
Generally the CD-ROM was too cheap (died when run in DA mode, I'm pretty sure 
boot is done in polled mode), if there is a kernel option for polled-mode CD 
operation, try that (F1 from the penguin screen, give elaborate LILO 
command); and also on one new Dell (or maybe it was Compaq?) where the CD-ROM 
was cable-select. Manually selecting it worked fine.

Does console 3 or 4 show you any errors?

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Bill Greenwood


Mike--- I suggest you burn another CD, as it looks like that one has a 
bad spot where it is trying to access that bit of information.  I 
suggest you burn it at a slower speed, possibly half the speed from your 
first one.  It may be that brand of CD-R as Warly also suggested.

Warly suggested that you do that because of the error information you 
submitted.

--Bill

===

Mike Eheler wrote:

>>1. burn a new CD
>>
>
>Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
>that I've done. None have worked.
>
>>2. try new CDR brand 
>>
>
>I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
>so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
>
>>3. change your CD drive
>>
>
>I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
>3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
>writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
>with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
>
>>4. change your burner
>>
>
>Ha!
>
>>5. do not test
>>
>
>So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
>you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
>8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
>
>>Warly
>>
>
>Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
>have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
>figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
>accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
>to mount the drive.
>
>Mike
>
>






Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Jeremy Salch

I have burned the CD's from Beta 1 2 & 3 and have installed systems with all 
of them.  


On Monday 04 March 2002 06:48 pm, you wrote:
> > 1. burn a new CD
>
> Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
> that I've done. None have worked.
>
> > 2. try new CDR brand
>
> I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
> so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
>
> > 3. change your CD drive
>
> I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
>
> > 4. change your burner
>
> Ha!
>
> > 5. do not test
>
> So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
>
> > Warly
>
> Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> to mount the drive.
>
> Mike




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Eheler

> 1. burn a new CD

Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
that I've done. None have worked.

> 2. try new CDR brand 

I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).

> 3. change your CD drive

I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.

> 4. change your burner

Ha!

> 5. do not test

So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.

> Warly

Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
to mount the drive.

Mike





Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Olivier Thauvin

Le Mardi 5 Mars 2002 00:56, vous avez écrit :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("M.Demirtas") writes:
> > the fifth option is the one that I would never expect from a Mandrake
> > developer. How do you want to make this distro rock and solid if the
> > people don't test?!?!?
>
> we don't want to make it rock and solid, just have fun :)

But why do you correct security bug on the day if it is just for fun ? ;-)

>
> > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:08, Warly wrote:
> > > Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> > > > second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
> > > >
> > > > Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> > > > stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> > > > something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> > > > says  for here,  for something,  for
> > > > osmething else.
> > >
> > > 1. burn a new CD
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 2. try new CDR brand
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 3. change your CD drive
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 4. change your burner
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 5. do not test
> > >
> > > --
> > > Warly

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Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread dams

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("M.Demirtas") writes:

> the fifth option is the one that I would never expect from a Mandrake
> developer. How do you want to make this distro rock and solid if the
> people don't test?!?!?

we don't want to make it rock and solid, just have fun :)

> 
> On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:08, Warly wrote:
> > Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> > > second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
> > >
> > > Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> > > stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> > > something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> > > says  for here,  for something,  for osmething
> > > else.
> > 
> > 1. burn a new CD
> > 
> > or 
> > 
> > 2. try new CDR brand 
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > 3. change your CD drive
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > 4. change your burner
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > 5. do not test
> > 
> > -- 
> > Warly
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
dam's




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread M.Demirtas

the fifth option is the one that I would never expect from a Mandrake
developer. How do you want to make this distro rock and solid if the
people don't test?!?!?

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:08, Warly wrote:
> Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> > second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
> >
> > Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> > stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> > something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> > says  for here,  for something,  for osmething
> > else.
> 
> 1. burn a new CD
> 
> or 
> 
> 2. try new CDR brand 
> 
> or
> 
> 3. change your CD drive
> 
> or
> 
> 4. change your burner
> 
> or
> 
> 5. do not test
> 
> -- 
> Warly
> 







Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Warly

Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
>
> Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> says  for here,  for something,  for osmething
> else.

1. burn a new CD

or 

2. try new CDR brand 

or

3. change your CD drive

or

4. change your burner

or

5. do not test

-- 
Warly