Re: [Cooker] Re: Openoffice 1.1rc5
Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Walser wrote: Quick compilation? OO.o? LOL! Clearly Emmanuel hasn't compiled OO.o before ;-) AFAI remember, OO.o compilation was made overnight :)
Re: [Cooker] Re: Openoffice 1.1rc5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Walser wrote: > Emmanuel wrote: > >>Hello there, >> >>http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/packages/openoffice/stable/1.1rc5/ >> >>Any chance of getting a quick compilation and making it into 9.2??? I >>believe rc5 will be renamed 1.1 once it's propagated onto the mirrors >>(based on the fact that SO7 is already out). >> >>Emmanuel > > > Quick compilation? OO.o? LOL! > Clearly Emmanuel hasn't compiled OO.o before ;-) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/cCZUrJK6UGDSBKcRAv5BAJ9dnoq/P3pLKaGoIQnMw34HXkQW0QCdFeMG eFkdZeBf+lAp7T6Kh5ka0J4= =KgbJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice-ja shows wrong characters
On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, utuhiro wrote: > "H. Narfi Stefansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ps. If this will be fixed in OOo-8mdk, then my hat's off to you! > > New OOo shows right Japanese characters. Hmm, well, that's not exepected if you neither have OOo -8mdk nor fonts-ttf-japanese from today. ;-) So, that's probably because you have by chance Kochi Gothic fonts already installed. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
Vadim Plessky wrote: > Does it mean Sun is going to promote own office suite? > /read: go againt MS head-tohead? / > What I know from press and their site, Sun's intention was to sell StarOffice > as server-based office suite. Bonobofying OpenOffice would actually be a step in that direction, since you wouldn't want to have to download 100-odd megabytes of program before you could start using that fabulous new ASP-based Office service. -- "GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible to accomplish complex actions." -- Doug Gwyn, comp.unix.wizards
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
Vadim Plessky wrote: > That's even more interesting :-)) > Does it mean Sun is going to promote own office suite? > /read: go againt MS head-tohead? / > What I know from press and their site, Sun's intention was to sell StarOffice > as server-based office suite. > And give away personal packages "as is", without significant modification > after their purchase of StarOffice. > > Can you give some more details what was presented on this conference? may be, > you have some slides from it? Or screenshots? Your darn straight they've going to promote it. They want to sell the servers that it'll run off. Sorry no sliders or screenshots. He couldn't even tell me when that stuff was going to be included in OpenOffice. Tyler Owen wrote: > > I was there at the confernece too. All I saw was that Sun had a demo of > Star Office and were promoting that they GPL'd Star Office under the > OpenOffice.org site. > > If there was anything more than that I missed it. You missed it :) Just to the right of the main StarOffice demow as the Nautilus demo -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
I was there at the confernece too. All I saw was that Sun had a demo of Star Office and were promoting that they GPL'd Star Office under the OpenOffice.org site. If there was anything more than that I missed it. On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:58:50 Vadim Plessky wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2000 09:17 am, Steve Fox wrote: > | Vadim Plessky wrote: > | > On Friday 27 October 2000 02:14 am, Steve Fox wrote: > | > > | > This probably means that Helix received OpenOffice sources far > before > | > official opening end of October. > | > May be, in June or July 2000, but not in October. Then 6 bmonth can > be > | > January 2001... > | > | Actually I said that Sun was doing the demo. They were the ones > hacking > | up the bonobo stuff. > > That's even more interesting :-)) > Does it mean Sun is going to promote own office suite? > /read: go againt MS head-tohead? / > What I know from press and their site, Sun's intention was to sell > StarOffice > as server-based office suite. > And give away personal packages "as is", without significant modification > > after their purchase of StarOffice. > > Can you give some more details what was presented on this conference? may > be, > you have some slides from it? Or screenshots? > -- > > Vadim Plessky > http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) > http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) > >
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
On Friday 27 October 2000 09:17 am, Steve Fox wrote: | Vadim Plessky wrote: | > On Friday 27 October 2000 02:14 am, Steve Fox wrote: | > | > This probably means that Helix received OpenOffice sources far before | > official opening end of October. | > May be, in June or July 2000, but not in October. Then 6 bmonth can be | > January 2001... | | Actually I said that Sun was doing the demo. They were the ones hacking | up the bonobo stuff. That's even more interesting :-)) Does it mean Sun is going to promote own office suite? /read: go againt MS head-tohead? / What I know from press and their site, Sun's intention was to sell StarOffice as server-based office suite. And give away personal packages "as is", without significant modification after their purchase of StarOffice. Can you give some more details what was presented on this conference? may be, you have some slides from it? Or screenshots? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian)
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
Vadim Plessky wrote: > > On Friday 27 October 2000 02:14 am, Steve Fox wrote: > | Vadim Plessky wrote: > | > Gnome/Helix guys wanted to "split Staroffice into small (Corba?) > | > modules, then re-assemble package from these modules" > | > I like this idea. But lloks like it will not happen in nearest 6 > | > months... > | > | At the Annual Linux Showcase a couple weeks ago I saw a presentation at > | the Sun booth which had the word processor and spread sheet programs ( I > | forget their names ) embeded in Nautilus as bonobo components. This is > | probably closer than you expect :) > > This probably means that Helix received OpenOffice sources far before > official opening end of October. > May be, in June or July 2000, but not in October. Then 6 bmonth can be > January 2001... Actually I said that Sun was doing the demo. They were the ones hacking up the bonobo stuff. -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
Vadim Plessky wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2000 02:14 am, Steve Fox wrote: >| Vadim Plessky wrote: >| > Gnome/Helix guys wanted to "split Staroffice into small (Corba?) >| > modules, then re-assemble package from these modules" >| > I like this idea. But lloks like it will not happen in nearest 6 >| > months... >| >| At the Annual Linux Showcase a couple weeks ago I saw a presentation at >| the Sun booth which had the word processor and spread sheet programs ( I >| forget their names ) embeded in Nautilus as bonobo components. This is >| probably closer than you expect :) > This probably means that Helix received OpenOffice sources far before > official opening end of October. > May be, in June or July 2000, but not in October. Then 6 bmonth can be > January 2001... Or it could mean that the Bonobo bits done for the demo were a gross hack, the ugliness of which was temporarily hidden under a powerful CPU and bucketsful of RAM, and 6 months may well be October 2000... (-: -- "If thine enemy wrong thee, buy each of his children Windows." -- Redmond proverb
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
On Friday 27 October 2000 02:14 am, Steve Fox wrote: | Vadim Plessky wrote: | > Gnome/Helix guys wanted to "split Staroffice into small (Corba?) | > modules, then re-assemble package from these modules" | > I like this idea. But lloks like it will not happen in nearest 6 | > months... | | At the Annual Linux Showcase a couple weeks ago I saw a presentation at | the Sun booth which had the word processor and spread sheet programs ( I | forget their names ) embeded in Nautilus as bonobo components. This is | probably closer than you expect :) This probably means that Helix received OpenOffice sources far before official opening end of October. May be, in June or July 2000, but not in October. Then 6 bmonth can be January 2001... -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian)
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
Vadim Plessky wrote: > Gnome/Helix guys wanted to "split Staroffice into small (Corba?) modules, > then re-assemble package from these modules" > I like this idea. But lloks like it will not happen in nearest 6 months... At the Annual Linux Showcase a couple weeks ago I saw a presentation at the Sun booth which had the word processor and spread sheet programs ( I forget their names ) embeded in Nautilus as bonobo components. This is probably closer than you expect :) -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meir Faraj) writes: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, you wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pgeorges) writes: > > > Frederic Crozat a écrit : > > > > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > > > > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( > > > > > > What do you mean ? I use LM 7.2 RC1 and staroffice 5.2 : printing is ok > > > (even in color !). > > > > StarOffice != OpenOffice > > > > All code of StarOffice could not be licensed under (L)GPL because Sun > > was not owner of some components (Unix Printing, Non-Office filters, > > Spell checker...) > > > > We'll have to wait until Gnome-print is integrated to provide printing > > under Linux > but they've released all the staroffice code under gpl , ok for printing and > others stuff like some filters > but a lot of it is already licenced under gpl so why don't get these part > into the distribution. They are in cooker ... -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pgeorges) writes: > > Frederic Crozat a écrit : > > > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > > > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( > > > > What do you mean ? I use LM 7.2 RC1 and staroffice 5.2 : printing is ok > > (even in color !). > > StarOffice != OpenOffice > > All code of StarOffice could not be licensed under (L)GPL because Sun > was not owner of some components (Unix Printing, Non-Office filters, > Spell checker...) > > We'll have to wait until Gnome-print is integrated to provide printing > under Linux but they've released all the staroffice code under gpl , ok for printing and others stuff like some filters but a lot of it is already licenced under gpl so why don't get these part into the distribution.
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > pgeorges a écrit : > > Frederic Crozat a écrit : > > > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > > > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( > > > > What do you mean ? I use LM 7.2 RC1 and staroffice 5.2 : printing is ok > > (even in color !). > > Printing module was not opensourced... Ok , but isn't possible to release another module for printing ?
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
On Thursday 26 October 2000 01:59 pm, Frederic Crozat wrote: | Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Current RPM gives only full-install option (150 Mo) for each user, | > directly from installer. Maybe it could be possible to do a | > "network-install" locally, using install -net, when building the rpm. So | > each user could then use a light-install (2Mo) only... | | Thanks, I'll try that ... Gnome/Helix guys wanted to "split Staroffice into small (Corba?) modules, then re-assemble package from these modules" I like this idea. But lloks like it will not happen in nearest 6 months... | | > application. Best proof is special mention "staroffice included" on | > mandrake's box. Now it is open-source, providing it with the main distro Mandrake, go for "KOffice included" ! It is absolutely usable for general office apps (like prepare a fax, print it out and ask secretary to send it :-) | > would be a great advantage for Mandrake IMHO. | | It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen | and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( Also not clear for me: what type of browser it is suggested to use as standard part of OpenOffice? Mozilla? Netscape 6? Then we again around 6 months from now. Who knows, may be in 6 months Microsoft will be ready with own Linux... Or at least with IE? Better not to plan future now, "Let it be!" for KDE2/Koffice! -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian)
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (pgeorges) writes: > Frederic Crozat a écrit : > > > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( > > What do you mean ? I use LM 7.2 RC1 and staroffice 5.2 : printing is ok > (even in color !). StarOffice != OpenOffice All code of StarOffice could not be licensed under (L)GPL because Sun was not owner of some components (Unix Printing, Non-Office filters, Spell checker...) We'll have to wait until Gnome-print is integrated to provide printing under Linux -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
pgeorges a écrit : > > Frederic Crozat a écrit : > > > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( > > What do you mean ? I use LM 7.2 RC1 and staroffice 5.2 : printing is ok > (even in color !). Printing module was not opensourced... -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
pgeorges a écrit : > > Frederic Crozat a écrit : > > > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( > > What do you mean ? I use LM 7.2 RC1 and staroffice 5.2 : printing is ok > (even in color !). Sorry, I just realised that printing part is not included in openoffice.
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
Frederic Crozat a écrit : > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( What do you mean ? I use LM 7.2 RC1 and staroffice 5.2 : printing is ok (even in color !).
Re: [Cooker] Re: OpenOffice
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, you wrote: > Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Current RPM gives only full-install option (150 Mo) for each user, > > directly from installer. Maybe it could be possible to do a > > "network-install" locally, using install -net, when building the rpm. So > > each user could then use a light-install (2Mo) only... > > Thanks, I'll try that ... > > > While on the subject, would it be possible to include this apps to 7.2, > > even if normaly frozen ? This is not a core application, so conflict > > risk are rather low, and Star-Office is a widely known and used > > application. Best proof is special mention "staroffice included" on > > mandrake's box. Now it is open-source, providing it with the main distro > > would be a great advantage for Mandrake IMHO. > > It is not possible to include it in 7.2, since we are in deep frozen > and it not even possible to print with OpenOffice under Unix :(( so in Mandrake 8 ;-)
