Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 13:54, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Leon Brooks wrote: > > Using OSS? Tried ALSA? > > Maybe it's unrelated, but ALSA may not be the best option: with the > stock kernel in 9.0, each time I started an application using full > duplex, the machine would lock hard. I've had several times XMMS locking hard - and it's not full duplex. OTOH, artsd does use full duplex. I see absolutely no reason to run XMMS via artsd with artsdsp, for I've got SB Live! meaning 32 PCM channels mixed in hardware. And that is perfectly supported by ALSA. But who knows, it may be some interaction of XMMS and artsd with ALSA that does the lockup. > Switched to OSS and it's working fine (this application at least). MIDI? ALSA does support MIDI, OSS doesn't support it yet. > > Bye -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
Leon Brooks wrote: Using OSS? Tried ALSA? Maybe it's unrelated, but ALSA may not be the best option: with the stock kernel in 9.0, each time I started an application using full duplex, the machine would lock hard. Switched to OSS and it's working fine (this application at least). Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS services. They arbitrarily include in their lists IP addresses not related in any way to spam, and in so doing are disrupting Internet connectivity. Please stop supporting them. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 msg80506/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 12:37, Leon Brooks wrote: > > When Konqueror is already locked, there is no help to kill artsd. After I > > try to kill it, even 'ps' just stalls there, and there is even no > > possibility to reboot - the system just stalls waiting for some process > > to finish. > > Bleah. I've never seen anything that bad from a plugin. I wonder what else > is wrong? A lot. For example, when I log in in the text console, the system takes a lot of time to reboot or just stalls UNTIL I EXIT THE TEXT CONSOLE SESSION. I suspect that somewhere there are a lot of some .rpmnew's and that some old versions of initscripts just don't play good anymore with the recent version of the system - it has been continuously upgraded since Mandrake 6.0, including several hardware upgrades and transfers to newer discs. > > > But, when I stop > > artsd before I try to load the site, the plugins work. I'll try to play > > with artsd options - let's see what the reason may be. As I guess, artsd > > tries to lock /dev/dsp, and then nspluginviewer just stalls while waiting > > for /dev/dsp to be freed. But why the hell artsd should behave like this > > in case of SB Live!? There is no reason to lock /dev/dsp as there are 32 > > channels. There is almost no reason for artsd even to exist in this case > > - as the sound channel mixing is done in HARDWARE. > > Using OSS? Tried ALSA? Using ALSA. > > Cheers; Leon -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 05:30 pm, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:06, Leon Brooks wrote: > > On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:47 am, David Walser wrote: > > Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The recent Konqueror ( 3.1 rc1 ) just hangs when trying to load > > > Netscape plugins. The nspluginviewer process is in the 'D' state, > > > probably blocking some system resources, and the worst is that > > > there is no way to remove such process but by rebooting the system. > > > Anybody with the same problem? > > Probably locking on sound. Try killing your sound daemon (probably artsd) > > and see what happens. > > When Konqueror is already locked, there is no help to kill artsd. After I > try to kill it, even 'ps' just stalls there, and there is even no > possibility to reboot - the system just stalls waiting for some process to > finish. Bleah. I've never seen anything that bad from a plugin. I wonder what else is wrong? > But, when I stop > artsd before I try to load the site, the plugins work. I'll try to play > with artsd options - let's see what the reason may be. As I guess, artsd > tries to lock /dev/dsp, and then nspluginviewer just stalls while waiting > for /dev/dsp to be freed. But why the hell artsd should behave like this > in case of SB Live!? There is no reason to lock /dev/dsp as there are 32 > channels. There is almost no reason for artsd even to exist in this case - > as the sound channel mixing is done in HARDWARE. Using OSS? Tried ALSA? Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:06, Leon Brooks wrote: > On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:47 am, David Walser wrote: > > Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The recent Konqueror ( 3.1 rc1 ) just hangs when trying to load > > Netscape plugins. The nspluginviewer process is in the 'D' state, > > probably blocking some system resources, and the worst is that > > there is no way to remove such process but by rebooting the system. > > Anybody with the same problem? > > Probably locking on sound. Try killing your sound daemon (probably artsd) > and see what happens. > When Konqueror is already locked, there is no help to kill artsd. After I try to kill it, even 'ps' just stalls there, and there is even no possibility to reboot - the system just stalls waiting for some process to finish. Keyboard reacts and all that, but no advancement. But, when I stop artsd before I try to load the site, the plugins work. I'll try to play with artsd options - let's see what the reason may be. As I guess, artsd tries to lock /dev/dsp, and then nspluginviewer just stalls while waiting for /dev/dsp to be freed. But why the hell artsd should behave like this in case of SB Live!? There is no reason to lock /dev/dsp as there are 32 channels. There is almost no reason for artsd even to exist in this case - as the sound channel mixing is done in HARDWARE. > Cheers; Leon -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Saturday 02 November 2002 23:42, Gary Greene wrote: > On Saturday 02 November 2002 04:33 pm, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > > On Saturday 02 November 2002 22:47, David Walser wrote: > > > Works for me. Only exception is when using over > > > remote X and flash is called, then it hangs. If I > > > killall nspluginviewer I'm back in business. > > > > I can't kill it, that's a problem. And the X is local, not remote. > > Tried a kill -15 on it? That should stop it (hopefully.) No, that doesn't help. It's impossible to kill a process in uninterruptible sleep state. The process is waiting for some I/O that just never finishes. And I would give much to know which I/O it is waiting for and whether there is some way to remove this process altogether by some other means than 'kill''. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:47 am, David Walser wrote: Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The recent Konqueror ( 3.1 rc1 ) just hangs when trying to load > Netscape plugins. The nspluginviewer process is in the 'D' state, > probably blocking some system resources, and the worst is that > there is no way to remove such process but by rebooting the system. > Anybody with the same problem? Probably locking on sound. Try killing your sound daemon (probably artsd) and see what happens. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 02 November 2002 04:33 pm, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > On Saturday 02 November 2002 22:47, David Walser wrote: > > Works for me. Only exception is when using over > > remote X and flash is called, then it hangs. If I > > killall nspluginviewer I'm back in business. > > I can't kill it, that's a problem. And the X is local, not remote. Tried a kill -15 on it? That should stop it (hopefully.) - -- Gary Greene Sent from seele.gvsu.edu 16:40:41 up 12:49, 4 users, load average: 0.93, 0.79, 0.80 = Founder and president of GVLUG. Chairman and Project Lead of the E-media Committee of AltReal. PHONE : 331-0562 EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9xEasVg8c0/GZcW8RAgUVAJ9ou+whED2wZ4OurxbXLw/S6OXBKQCbBUlI njCz4CI5LVX0MBMSrCH0VkM= =qRrF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Saturday 02 November 2002 22:47, David Walser wrote: > Works for me. Only exception is when using over > remote X and flash is called, then it hangs. If I > killall nspluginviewer I'm back in business. > I can't kill it, that's a problem. And the X is local, not remote. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
Works for me. Only exception is when using over remote X and flash is called, then it hangs. If I killall nspluginviewer I'm back in business. --- Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The recent Konqueror ( 3.1 rc1 ) just hangs when > trying to load Netscape > plugins. The nspluginviewer process is in the 'D' > state, probably blocking > some system resources, and the worst is that there > is no way to remove such > process but by rebooting the system. Anybody with > the same problem? > -- > > Regards, > Alex Chudnovsky > e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ : 35559910 > > __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
