Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
rsync-plus. The documentation of rsync-plus on my web site (see sig) has been updated so as to now include instructions for executing the rsync-plus perl modules. Thanks for bringing this oversight to my attention. To cause rsync-plus to download Mandrake for all languages, just don't download the rsync_exclude file, or delete or rename it.Your total download will increase by well over 500MB. Felix Miata wrote: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! I went there when I first set up my cooker box a few weeks ago. From that page the only thing that I could figure out how to use was http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/rsync-plus/rsync_exclude. I'm not a programmer, and don't know how to use your perl stuff. Another stopper was being forced to use UK English, without which I might have tried harder to understand exactly how to use your stuff. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful!
Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
Packages tend to be propagated to mirrors before the hdlists, so if you happen to catch a mirror while it's busy updating, you may well find a situation where the hdlist it has no longer reflects the packages it has. Thus the missing packages (these would be ones that had been updated twice since your rsync; the hdlist would contain version X+1, which the actual file on the mirror would be X+2) and the non-updated kernel (which had presumably only been updated once; you have 9mdk, the hdlist lists 9mdk so urpmi thinks there is no update available, even though 10mdk was actually on the mirror by that point). And this is why somebody should start using an .!UNSAFE flag on servers example session 1 upload a file named .!UNSAFE to the server 2 start rsync 3 successfully complete rsync 4 delete .!UNSAFE this way a script or person or whatever can check for the .!UNSAFE file and then if it is found wait for a semirandom time and restart if this is started all the way at the top (mandrakesoft) then huge amounts of time/bandwidth can be saved. (and yes the exact file name could be translated into whatever the native language of the server is (or just something like .!!! that just looks funny))
Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 17:27, Felix Miata wrote: > I installed fresh from my sunet cooker rsync about three days ago. Last > night (around 02:00 UTC) I freshened my rsync, then did the following: > > 1-urpmi.addmedia --update cooker-updates > file://mnt/nfs/ax5t3/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz > > 2-urpmi -a > > 3-urpmi -v --auto-select > > 4-urpmi kernel > > Step 3 installed about 39 packages and ended with a warning that two > packages were not available. Step 4 ended with "everything already > installed", even though my kernel was 2.4.22-9, but the package on the > mirror is 2.4.22-10. So, I went to the RPMS directory and successfully > ran 'rpm -i kernel-2.4.22-10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm'. > > Is this oddball 10mdk-1-1mdk rpm the reason why urpmi wouldn't install > it? How do I find out what other existing packages didn't install? Why > were there packages missing? Anyway, to answer the original question despite Ron's masterful diversion of it to be about his download script...this is probably just due to a synchronisation problem between the hdlist and the available packages. Packages tend to be propagated to mirrors before the hdlists, so if you happen to catch a mirror while it's busy updating, you may well find a situation where the hdlist it has no longer reflects the packages it has. Thus the missing packages (these would be ones that had been updated twice since your rsync; the hdlist would contain version X+1, which the actual file on the mirror would be X+2) and the non-updated kernel (which had presumably only been updated once; you have 9mdk, the hdlist lists 9mdk so urpmi thinks there is no update available, even though 10mdk was actually on the mirror by that point). -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
Felix Miata kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Lauantai 20 Syyskuu 2003 20:47): > Ron Stodden wrote: > > Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It > > will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to > > download. See sig. > > > > It properly downloads updated kernel RPMs usually distributed in > > Mandrake Updates. These are correctly installed as additional lilo > > stanzas by the Mandrake Software Manangement dialogs in 9.1. > > I don't use Lilo. I don't want additional Grub stanzas simply because I > installed a newer kernel either. Why should I need the old after > upgrading? > if the new kernel fails, you will be happy ta have an older one to boot from ;-) > > http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! > > I went there when I first set up my cooker box a few weeks ago. From > that page the only thing that I could figure out how to use was > http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/rsync-plus/rsync_exclude. I'm not a > programmer, and don't know how to use your perl stuff. Another stopper > was being forced to use UK English, without which I might have tried > harder to understand exactly how to use your stuff. The english-only part is only an option, not a setting forced on you... An other script that works great is the rpmsync that we have in contribs, wich also works great ;-) -- Regards Thomas
Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
Felix Miata wrote: I don't use Lilo. I don't want additional Grub stanzas simply because I installed a newer kernel either. Why should I need the old after upgrading? Because occasionally a newer kernel can cause problems. Plus having two different versions of the kernel can help checkout subtle issues. It's always been a good rule of thumb to have a fallback kernel just in case the install of the new kernel goes bad or has issues. -randy
Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
Ron Stodden wrote: Felix, et al, Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to download. See sig. I can vouch for the rsync scripts Ron has. I have switched to that for syncing with cooker. -randy
Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
Ron Stodden wrote: > Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It > will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to > download. See sig. > It properly downloads updated kernel RPMs usually distributed in > Mandrake Updates. These are correctly installed as additional lilo > stanzas by the Mandrake Software Manangement dialogs in 9.1. I don't use Lilo. I don't want additional Grub stanzas simply because I installed a newer kernel either. Why should I need the old after upgrading? > http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! I went there when I first set up my cooker box a few weeks ago. From that page the only thing that I could figure out how to use was http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/rsync-plus/rsync_exclude. I'm not a programmer, and don't know how to use your perl stuff. Another stopper was being forced to use UK English, without which I might have tried harder to understand exactly how to use your stuff. -- "...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry" James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
Re: [Cooker] Why Is My Update Broken?
Felix, et al, Are you not aware of our very popular fastest Mandrake downloader? It will always beat the use of raw rsync when there are updates to download. See sig. It properly downloads updated kernel RPMs usually distributed in Mandrake Updates. These are correctly installed as additional lilo stanzas by the Mandrake Software Manangement dialogs in 9.1. Felix Miata wrote: I installed fresh from my sunet cooker rsync about three days ago. Last night (around 02:00 UTC) I freshened my rsync, then did the following: 1-urpmi.addmedia --update cooker-updates file://mnt/nfs/ax5t3/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz 2-urpmi -a 3-urpmi -v --auto-select 4-urpmi kernel Step 3 installed about 39 packages and ended with a warning that two packages were not available. Step 4 ended with "everything already installed", even though my kernel was 2.4.22-9, but the package on the mirror is 2.4.22-10. So, I went to the RPMS directory and successfully ran 'rpm -i kernel-2.4.22-10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm'. Is this oddball 10mdk-1-1mdk rpm the reason why urpmi wouldn't install it? How do I find out what other existing packages didn't install? Why were there packages missing? BTW, after each rsync, the last screen message (after size/speedup) is not appended to the log. That last message is always of the form: "rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1045)". Why is this line not appended? Why the error message at all? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful!
