Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
So no one has a working drakprofile? Or does it work for everyone but me? On 17 Aug 2001 22:32:12 -0400, Steve Fox wrote: > While we're on the topic of drakprofile, does anyone actually have this > working so you select the profile at boot time? I used this with 7.2 > which was based on linuxconf's profiling capability. Ever since 8.0 came > around I haven't been able to select the profile at boot time (I even > manually added the append=" profile=Home" to lilo.conf but it does > nothing (I have linuxconf services starting at boot). > > So I have been manually running linuxconf --selectprofile [name] ever > since 8.0 came out and it's rather annoying. > > Does drakprofile not use linuxconf? If not, does it use LILO to choose > the profile? How the heck does it work? Does it work? :) > > Thanks. -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.org
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
> > Am 2001-08-18, um 17:03:13 (+0200) schrieb Andre: > > > > On 18 Aug 2001 08:58:35 +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > one of the big missings is that "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" is not part of > > > the profiles. As I use a wheel mouse at home and a 3 button mouse at > > > work, I had to do use a bad workaround: XF86Config-4 is a symlink to > > > XMetroconfig on my machine :-( > > > > can't you just use /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. > > It is the same Laptop I am taking with me - at home I use my wheel mouse, > as I don't take it with me I am only having the touchpad which won't work > corectly if used without the wheel mouse attached (as it is a diffrent > protocol) so I have to use two diffrent XF86Config-4 files. > > But as XF86Config-4 is not covered by linuxconf (which defines which files > will be stored into the profile) I had to use the workaround with the > commercial server and the symlink ... > > -- I know it is the same laptop. But at work and at home you probably attach it to a network. Doesn't it get it's name from the network? Thinking harder about it it think you are correct
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Am 2001-08-18, um 17:03:13 (+0200) schrieb Andre:
>
> On 18 Aug 2001 08:58:35 +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > one of the big missings is that "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" is not part of
> > the profiles. As I use a wheel mouse at home and a 3 button mouse at
> > work, I had to do use a bad workaround: XF86Config-4 is a symlink to
> > XMetroconfig on my machine :-(
>
> can't you just use /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
It is the same Laptop I am taking with me - at home I use my wheel mouse,
as I don't take it with me I am only having the touchpad which won't work
corectly if used without the wheel mouse attached (as it is a diffrent
protocol) so I have to use two diffrent XF86Config-4 files.
But as XF86Config-4 is not covered by linuxconf (which defines which files
will be stored into the profile) I had to use the workaround with the
commercial server and the symlink ...
--
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Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
On 18 Aug 2001 08:58:35 +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> one of the big missings is that "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" is not part of
> the profiles. As I use a wheel mouse at home and a 3 button mouse at
> work, I had to do use a bad workaround: XF86Config-4 is a symlink to
> XMetroconfig on my machine :-(
>
> --
> _
> Tschüss und bis demnächst/à bientôt, _|_|_
>(") *
> Stefan /v\ /
> »( )« Penguin Powered!
>
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can't you just use /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Hi,
one of the big missings is that "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" is not part of
the profiles. As I use a wheel mouse at home and a 3 button mouse at
work, I had to do use a bad workaround: XF86Config-4 is a symlink to
XMetroconfig on my machine :-(
--
_
Tschüss und bis demnächst/à bientôt, _|_|_
(") *
Stefan /v\ /
»( )« Penguin Powered!
+(m-m)--+
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
While we're on the topic of drakprofile, does anyone actually have this working so you select the profile at boot time? I used this with 7.2 which was based on linuxconf's profiling capability. Ever since 8.0 came around I haven't been able to select the profile at boot time (I even manually added the append=" profile=Home" to lilo.conf but it does nothing (I have linuxconf services starting at boot). So I have been manually running linuxconf --selectprofile [name] ever since 8.0 came out and it's rather annoying. Does drakprofile not use linuxconf? If not, does it use LILO to choose the profile? How the heck does it work? Does it work? :) Thanks. -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.org
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Ainsi parlait dam's : > > > > > > And could other network-related files be specified as part of the > > > > > > profile (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) ? > > > > > > > > > > Ok, but it won't be able to save it in a profile. Or not easilly. > > > > > Is it a pb? > > > > > > > > Yes. What's the use of including them in a profile if they are not > > > > restaured along with it ? My idea was to extend the profile to > > > > contains an optional list of additional files. > > > > > > oh great, that's a nice feature. But appart this, do you think those > > > files (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) should be included > > > in a profile? > > > > No, no, i just have fun asking for complety useless features :-). > > To be precise, i don't think these files must be always included, neither > > that the exact list must be hard-coded. I was just imagining something > > between drakprofile (where all /etc dir is saved) and current profile > > (where just minimal set of files are saved), as an idea for future > > development. > > ok thanx. > What do you think about a cvs handling etc? > a cron is committing every change you do on your /etc, and it's the best > way to keep trace of changes. Each timnt one:e you want to save your config in a > profile, you tag the whole thing. And with the branch system it's even more > powerfull. That's one of the possibilities that is very nic, IMO It's rather heavy, as it needs a cvs, and i don't want to keep trace of every changes. If just my network change, i don't want to save my X configuration ! However, i would like to start services or not, export directories or not, etc... So i was looking for something simple and extensible. My own solution was this quick script, allowing me to declare any file or directory in /etc to be part of a profile, and using symlink to select the current one. #!/bin/sh if [ $# != 1 ] ; then echo "usage: `basename $0` " exit 1 fi echo "switching profile to $1" for file in `find /etc -name "*.$1" 2>/dev/null`; do cd `dirname $file` ln -sf `basename $file` `basename $file .$1` done -- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Rousse) writes: > Ainsi parlait dam's : > > > > > Sounds great. However: > > > > > 1) default profile cannot be renamed nor deleted once other profile > > > > > exist > > > > > > > > is it a pb? I think it's usefull to have one profile by default, that > > > > you cannot delete. What is the need of renaming/deleting it? > > > > > > It's only an aestethic problem. If i create an 'home' profile, i would > > > like to name the other one 'laboratory', not default... So, i agree with > > > a need of a default profile, i just would like to call it as i want. > > > > hm I see. It's difficult, because in the code, I assume I always have > > at least the 'default' profile ... > Don't refer to the profile by their names and make impossible to delete the > current default one. easier to say than to do :/ > > > > > > And could other network-related files be specified as part of the > > > > > profile (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) ? > > > > > > > > Ok, but it won't be able to save it in a profile. Or not easilly. Is it > > > > a pb? > > > > > > Yes. What's the use of including them in a profile if they are not > > > restaured along with it ? My idea was to extend the profile to contains > > > an optional list of additional files. > > > > oh great, that's a nice feature. But appart this, do you think those files > > (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) should be included in a > > profile? > No, no, i just have fun asking for complety useless features :-). > To be precise, i don't think these files must be always included, neither > that the exact list must be hard-coded. I was just imagining something > between drakprofile (where all /etc dir is saved) and current profile (where > just minimal set of files are saved), as an idea for future development. ok thanx. What do you think about a cvs handling etc? a cron is committing every change you do on your /etc, and it's the best way to keep trace of changes. Each time you want to save your config in a profile, you tag the whole thing. And with the branch system it's even more powerfull. That's one of the possibilities that is very nic, IMO -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Ainsi parlait dam's : > > > > Sounds great. However: > > > > 1) default profile cannot be renamed nor deleted once other profile > > > > exist > > > > > > is it a pb? I think it's usefull to have one profile by default, that > > > you cannot delete. What is the need of renaming/deleting it? > > > > It's only an aestethic problem. If i create an 'home' profile, i would > > like to name the other one 'laboratory', not default... So, i agree with > > a need of a default profile, i just would like to call it as i want. > > hm I see. It's difficult, because in the code, I assume I always have > at least the 'default' profile ... Don't refer to the profile by their names and make impossible to delete the current default one. > > > > And could other network-related files be specified as part of the > > > > profile (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) ? > > > > > > Ok, but it won't be able to save it in a profile. Or not easilly. Is it > > > a pb? > > > > Yes. What's the use of including them in a profile if they are not > > restaured along with it ? My idea was to extend the profile to contains > > an optional list of additional files. > > oh great, that's a nice feature. But appart this, do you think those files > (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) should be included in a > profile? No, no, i just have fun asking for complety useless features :-). To be precise, i don't think these files must be always included, neither that the exact list must be hard-coded. I was just imagining something between drakprofile (where all /etc dir is saved) and current profile (where just minimal set of files are saved), as an idea for future development. -- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Rousse) writes: > Ainsi parlait dam's : > > > > Or, if ou are a 1337, do :'draknet --embedde 654 654' on a console :) > > > > > > As i'm real 1337, i corrected myself to --embedded :-) > > > > ouaaah :) > no: 0u44. > Much better. > > > > Sounds great. However: > > > 1) default profile cannot be renamed nor deleted once other profile exist > > > > is it a pb? I think it's usefull to have one profile by default, that you > > cannot delete. What is the need of renaming/deleting it? > It's only an aestethic problem. If i create an 'home' profile, i would like > to name the other one 'laboratory', not default... So, i agree with a need of > a default profile, i just would like to call it as i want. hm I see. It's difficult, because in the code, I assume I always have at least the 'default' profile ... > > > > And could other network-related files be specified as part of the profile > > > (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) ? > > > > Ok, but it won't be able to save it in a profile. Or not easilly. Is it a > > pb? > Yes. What's the use of including them in a profile if they are not restaured > along with it ? My idea was to extend the profile to contains an optional > list of additional files. oh great, that's a nice feature. But appart this, do you think those files (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) should be included in a profile? -- dam's
RE: [Cooker] drakprofile
>> no: 0u44. >> Much better. Muc|-| b3773r
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Ainsi parlait dam's : > > > Or, if ou are a 1337, do :'draknet --embedde 654 654' on a console :) > > > > As i'm real 1337, i corrected myself to --embedded :-) > > ouaaah :) no: 0u44. Much better. > > Sounds great. However: > > 1) default profile cannot be renamed nor deleted once other profile exist > > is it a pb? I think it's usefull to have one profile by default, that you > cannot delete. What is the need of renaming/deleting it? It's only an aestethic problem. If i create an 'home' profile, i would like to name the other one 'laboratory', not default... So, i agree with a need of a default profile, i just would like to call it as i want. > > And could other network-related files be specified as part of the profile > > (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) ? > > Ok, but it won't be able to save it in a profile. Or not easilly. Is it a > pb? Yes. What's the use of including them in a profile if they are not restaured along with it ? My idea was to extend the profile to contains an optional list of additional files. -- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Rousse) writes: > Ainsi parlait dam's : > > you have to launch draknet in the Mandrake control center, otherwise it > > launchs the wizard. > > > > Launch mcc, and go to the 'internet connection' section. > > > > Or, if ou are a 1337, do :'draknet --embedde 654 654' on a console :) > As i'm real 1337, i corrected myself to --embedded :-) ouaaah :) > Sounds great. However: > 1) default profile cannot be renamed nor deleted once other profile exist is it a pb? I think it's usefull to have one profile by default, that you cannot delete. What is the need of renaming/deleting it? > 2) neither OK nor Cancel button quit the application in embedded mode. Is it > normal ? yes. It's normal. The --embedded specifiy that the application is launched in 'embedded' mode :), that means, in the mandrake control center. In that mode, when you quit, it just send a signal to the mcc window that hide draknet. So that the next time the user clicks on it, it doesn't load again. > > And could other network-related files be specified as part of the profile > (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) ? Ok, but it won't be able to save it in a profile. Or not easilly. Is it a pb? -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Ainsi parlait dam's : > you have to launch draknet in the Mandrake control center, otherwise it > launchs the wizard. > > Launch mcc, and go to the 'internet connection' section. > > Or, if ou are a 1337, do :'draknet --embedde 654 654' on a console :) As i'm real 1337, i corrected myself to --embedded :-) Sounds great. However: 1) default profile cannot be renamed nor deleted once other profile exist 2) neither OK nor Cancel button quit the application in embedded mode. Is it normal ? And could other network-related files be specified as part of the profile (hosts, hosts.allow & deny, exports, etc...) ? -- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Rousse) writes: > Ainsi parlait Yves Duret : > > you have profile in draknet. launch draknet (or by mcc Network&Internet > > then connection) and choose "New profile". i think it is waht you need :) > > drakprofile is not supported in 8.1 > I didn't saw anything alike in draknet... > [guillaume@silbermann xml]$ rpm -q drakxtools-newt > drakxtools-newt-1.1.7-2mdk you have to launch draknet in the Mandrake control center, otherwise it launchs the wizard. Launch mcc, and go to the 'internet connection' section. Or, if ou are a 1337, do :'draknet --embedde 654 654' on a console :) -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Ainsi parlait Yves Duret : > you have profile in draknet. launch draknet (or by mcc Network&Internet > then connection) and choose "New profile". i think it is waht you need :) > drakprofile is not supported in 8.1 I didn't saw anything alike in draknet... [guillaume@silbermann xml]$ rpm -q drakxtools-newt drakxtools-newt-1.1.7-2mdk -- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyone using drakprofile with success ? > Altough a good idea, i find it cumbersome (it uses linuxconf, errrgh), > inefficient (it saves everything in /etc), and not working (error message > "could not activate xxx profile"). As author is RedHog, who seems to be > actually MIA, i guess it won't be maintained anymore... > Anyone know of any other solution for switching network context easily with > laptops ? you have profile in draknet. launch draknet (or by mcc Network&Internet then connection) and choose "New profile". i think it is waht you need :) drakprofile is not supported in 8.1 -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] P|-|34R |)4 R4|<137
Re: [Cooker] Drakprofile doe not work?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrej Borsenkow) writes: > On 16 Apr 2001, dam's wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrej Borsenkow) writes: > > > > > Call DrakConf, Network, Connection, New profile - give a name to profile > > > (e.g. foo) - click O.K. - and nothing more happens, I get a clean virgine > > > window in DrakConf. I get processes: > > > > > > works for me, on a fresh install. Are you sure? > > > > > > bor@localhost 0rakprofile > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./drakprofileBin", line 6, in ? > from gtk import * > ImportError: No module named gtk > > What do I miss? the profile management in DrakConf/network/connection has nothing to do with drakprofile. -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] Drakprofile doe not work?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrej Borsenkow) writes: > Call DrakConf, Network, Connection, New profile - give a name to profile > (e.g. foo) - click O.K. - and nothing more happens, I get a clean virgine > window in DrakConf. I get processes: works for me, on a fresh install. Are you sure? -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] Drakprofile doe not work?
On 16 Apr 2001, dam's wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrej Borsenkow) writes: > > > Call DrakConf, Network, Connection, New profile - give a name to profile > > (e.g. foo) - click O.K. - and nothing more happens, I get a clean virgine > > window in DrakConf. I get processes: > > > works for me, on a fresh install. Are you sure? > > bor@localhost% drakprofile Traceback (most recent call last): File "./drakprofileBin", line 6, in ? from gtk import * ImportError: No module named gtk What do I miss? bor@localhost% rpm -qa | grep -i gtk gtktalog-0.3.1-1mdk perl-GTK-0.7006-1mdk perl-GTK-Glade-0.7006-1mdk gtk+mdk-0.1.5-5mdk rep-gtk-0.13a-6mdk gtkglarea-1.2.2-3mdk rep-gtk-libglade-0.13a-6mdk rep-gtk-gnome-0.13a-6mdk Aurora-Monitor-Traditional-Gtk+-8.2-5mdk gtkdialogs-1.0-3mdk gtkgraph-0.6.1-6mdk gtkzip-0.5.1-8mdk gtkmm-1.2.2-3mdk gtk-engines-0.10-4mdk gtk+-devel-1.2.8-6mdk perl-GTK-GdkImlib-0.7006-1mdk perl-GTK-Gnome-0.7006-1mdk libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-1mdk perl-GTK-GLArea-0.7006-1mdk pygtk-0.6.6-4mdk -andrej
Re: [Cooker] drakprofile & draknet problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Rousse) writes: > - draknet attempt ppp connection using a non-existing script > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_up what did you do before that? can you give me a more detailed report? > - when changing profile with different hostname, relaunching X as indicated > is not enough. In fact, even going to runlevel 1 then back to 5 is not > enough. You have to reboot to make it work very strange. -- dam's
