Re: [Cooker] ulysses-3 iso's
Reinhard Katzmann wrote: Hi Antony! On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:23:31AM +1100, Antony Suter wrote: glibc 2.1.92 I disagree, this version is highly patched by RH to get it working at all. You have to be more specific WHY you want this beta version of glibc included. For one thing, it is supposed to have better i18n support. gcc "2.96" WHY ? The current gcc just works fine for me. I'm not against moving forward, but the current Beta is in freeze, so don't make the change there (imagine they had to recompile _all_ packages!!) I agree that gcc "2.96" is not stable right now, however after Mandrake 7.2 which is 2 months away, it may well be stable enough to consider. RPM 4 Same as above, the Mandrake RPM can rebuild RPM4 src.rpms so I see no problem. Also Mandrake ppl. told more than once that RPM4 won't go into the next release. I dont mean as hack* versions to try, I mean as the standard tool. I assume that these can go in cooker as soon as Mandrake 7.2 in finally released... I disagree, they surely won't. I was only suggesting they go into cooker at the start of the cooker development cycle. Would not the cooker process help sort out the issues? That is what cooker is for. -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
Re: [Cooker] ulysses-3 iso's
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Matthew R. Sprague" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] rh7 effect? :) Are people still using their product? I thought Mandrake had put them out of business. Then -- I would be happy to hear some comparisons from third party, between let's say RH7.0 and upcomming LM7.2 in terms of: 1. features (e.g. quantity of good/recent software) 2. hardware recognition (e.g. usb, 3d-accel, laptops, etc) 3. user-friendliness (how *easy* it is) 4. power (will an expert like the distro or not, e.g. is there enough power tools/packages and so on) 5. stability (most of the packages work? don't work? proper basic configs?) What about you guys on Cooker -- can you tell us some words on each category? RedHat 7 has 3 things as standard that I want to see in Mandrake as soon as possible. glibc 2.1.92 gcc "2.96" RPM 4 I dont mean as hack* versions to try, I mean as the standard tool. I assume that these can go in cooker as soon as Mandrake 7.2 in finally released... I wont mention the 2.4 kernel right now. Its taking a LOONG time to come out and i'm using hackkernel 2.4 anyway. -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
Re: [Cooker] ulysses-3 iso's
Hi Antony! On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:23:31AM +1100, Antony Suter wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Matthew R. Sprague" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: glibc 2.1.92 I disagree, this version is highly patched by RH to get it working at all. You have to be more specific WHY you want this beta version of glibc included. gcc "2.96" WHY ? The current gcc just works fine for me. I'm not against moving forward, but the current Beta is in freeze, so don't make the change there (imagine they had to recompile _all_ packages!!) RPM 4 Same as above, the Mandrake RPM can rebuild RPM4 src.rpms so I see no problem. Also Mandrake ppl. told more than once that RPM4 won't go into the next release. I dont mean as hack* versions to try, I mean as the standard tool. I assume that these can go in cooker as soon as Mandrake 7.2 in finally released... I disagree, they surely won't. I wont mention the 2.4 kernel right now. Its taking a LOONG time to come out and i'm using hackkernel 2.4 anyway. It might run for you, but there are for sure 1000 other ppl. which have problems with this kernel. Best regards, Reinhard Katzmann -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] ulysses-3 iso's
Yo, 4. power (will an expert like the distro or not, e.g. is there enough power tools/packages and so on) 5. stability (most of the packages work? don't work? proper basic configs?) What about you guys on Cooker -- can you tell us some words on each category? RedHat 7 has 3 things as standard that I want to see in Mandrake as soon as possible. glibc 2.1.92 It is not as stable as 2.1.3, AFAIK ... gcc "2.96" CVS , it is in contribs. I dont mean as hack* versions to try, I mean as the standard tool. I assume that these can go in cooker as soon as Mandrake 7.2 in finally released... Unless you want to break your machine ... I wont mention the 2.4 kernel right now. Its taking a LOONG time to come out and i'm using hackkernel 2.4 anyway. Yes you may be a developer or you have gcc and all *-devel packages installed but think about the averagre user who wants a stable kernel, stable glibc and not complain when it crash with a kernel oops and not knowing what happened (though tests show that 2.4 kernel is more stable than windoze 2000 ;) In any csae, it is provided by the hackX stuff, so you can always get it if you really want to. -- Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] §õªø· ~/.signature ¤¤¤åbig5 compliant. http://devel.mandrakesoft.com/~snailtalk ftp://devel.mandrakesoft.com/pub/people/snailtalk
Re: [Cooker] ulysses-3 iso's
salane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: are there any other mirrors of these files? It seems that the two are overloaded. rh7 effect? :)
Re: [Cooker] ulysses-3 iso's
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, you wrote: salane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: are there any other mirrors of these files? It seems that the two are overloaded. rh7 effect? :) Are people still using their product? I thought Mandrake had put them out of business.
Re: [Cooker] ulysses-3 iso's
"Matthew R. Sprague" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] rh7 effect? :) Are people still using their product? I thought Mandrake had put them out of business. Then -- I would be happy to hear some comparisons from third party, between let's say RH7.0 and upcomming LM7.2 in terms of: 1. features (e.g. quantity of good/recent software) 2. hardware recognition (e.g. usb, 3d-accel, laptops, etc) 3. user-friendliness (how *easy* it is) 4. power (will an expert like the distro or not, e.g. is there enough power tools/packages and so on) 5. stability (most of the packages work? don't work? proper basic configs?) What about you guys on Cooker -- can you tell us some words on each category? -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
