Re: PPC Beta1 ISO (fwd)
Hi Stew, On Thursday 16 January 2003 03:10 pm, Stew Benedict wrote: > FYI folks - feedback welcome The new Beta installed real nice on a 550MHz TiBook, and the graphical installer even filled the entire screen : ) Initially I had package installation errors when performing a CD-based installation; then I copied everything to an FTP server and no longer had any problems. The KDE desktop looks the same as the PC Beta, but the Mandrake Control Center won't launch: [root@localhost phil33]# mcc & [1] 1992 [root@localhost phil33]# Can't load '/usr/lib/libDrakX/auto/Newt/Newt.so' for module Newt: libnewt.so.0.50: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ppc-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm line 229. at /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive/newt.pm line 12 Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive/newt.pm line 12. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive/newt.pm line 12. Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 110. [root@localhost phil33]# Many of the individual Mandrake utilities (such as rpmdrake) won't run from a terminal: "This program cannot be run in console mode." Strange, because it normally launches the program in graphical mode. The cursor in KDE is white (probably because of the Radeon) which makes it invisible on any white background. But these are probably just general Cooker issues. Thanks Stew. Please let me know if you need any additional info. Bye, Phil
Re: x wont boot
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Crazy Johnson wrote: > --- Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If it's a newer one you've hit the same issue as > > others. > > Changing to "fbdev" for driver may give you some X. > > 8.2 came out almost a > > year ago, before the newere TiBooks. Even now radeon > > support is shakey on > > x86 also. > > Should I do install-fbdev and then continue with the > graphicall install? Will that then be used as my > graphics card? Or should I just insert fbdev in the > /etc/X11/Xsession config files? > no, no don't re-install just to fix X edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 If you already have debian, you could try borrowing that config. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: x wont boot
--- Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's a newer one you've hit the same issue as > others. > Changing to "fbdev" for driver may give you some X. > 8.2 came out almost a > year ago, before the newere TiBooks. Even now radeon > support is shakey on > x86 also. Should I do install-fbdev and then continue with the graphicall install? Will that then be used as my graphics card? Or should I just insert fbdev in the /etc/X11/Xsession config files? > > also XFdrake does not launch. > > Doesn't run at all? I thought it could be run in > text mode. That was me. I forgot to run it as root. XFdrake just lets me edit the res., etc. but when ever I test I always get to the same hangup. How do I exit the test? > Apple has certain advantages, since they own the > hardware platform :P > We Linux folk have to rely on someone with the > talent getting some > hands-on time with the new hardware generally. I'm > guessing X over OSX is > much like Xnest, where it's not really driving the > hardware itself, > although I don't have OSX to know for sure. X rootless on OSX is nice. But you are still running a bunch of layers besides X. I was thinking of installing Darwin on my Debian partition and then build my X system from scratch. Then I realized that Darwin co$t$. Thanks, Jack __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: PPC Beta1 ISO (fwd)
FYI folks - feedback welcome Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:06:53 +0100 From: Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Frederic Lepied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PPC Beta1 ISO Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've prepared a PPC beta1 ISO if it could be made available to the > mirrors, I'd greatly appreciate it: > > [stewb@kenobi stewb]$ ls -l MandrakeLinux-9.1beta1.ppc.* > -rw-r--r--1 stewbstewb680017920 Jan 15 01:47 > MandrakeLinux-9.1beta1.ppc.iso > -rw-r--r--1 stewbstewb 65 Jan 15 01:51 > MandrakeLinux-9.1beta1.ppc.md5 The iso is currently being mirrored. -- Warly
Re: Compiler speed
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Quentin Mason wrote: > > Hi, > I was wondering whether it was common knowledge or whether anyone else has > noticed how much faster it is to compile things on MandrakePPC over an > Intel machine ? > For example: > 500 Mhz 1Mb L2 Cache, 384Mb RAM Wallstreet Powerlogix G3 upgrade, g++ 2.95~3mins > Dual 933 MHz Pentium 3, 1Gb RAM , g++ 3.2.1 2.25 >Hrs > > This is on a ~ 1Mb file that I was trying to compile for my research > without ANY optimisation options at all. The file was generated by some > other code and consists entirely of statements like > -1/3*sin(a+b+c)+2*sin(a-b+c). > > I discovered this by accident trying to do some work on my laptop at home > over Xmas; I thought it would be fun to try several of these huge object > files out on my laptop when they take so long on the machines at work. I > have some other files to compile that take >24 hrs w/ >900Mb RAM + >10Mb > stacksize in the office. I could imagine a factor of 2-3 difference, but > to have around 100 including the processor speeds was _very_ surprising. > > Does anyone have any experience to compare to ? > My experience building the packages with the optimizations we use has been the opposite, but I don't really know what an equivalent x86 machine might be to make a fair comparison. Comparing my local builds with building the same package on x86 on the Paris cluster, it takes me as much as 10 times longer, in some cases. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: x wont boot
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Crazy Johnson wrote: > G4Ti. Did mandrake automatically configure this for > me? I said "install-radeon" to launch the graphicall > install and like others was not able to use the > graphicall installer. Of course "install-text" worked > fine. > If it's a newer one you've hit the same issue as others. Changing to "fbdev" for driver may give you some X. 8.2 came out almost a year ago, before the newere TiBooks. Even now radeon support is shakey on x86 also. > I was looking through the /etc/X11/Xsession config > files and I think it has me down for a Radeon card. > The installer also had an exact match for my screen > and rez as well. I tried a number of different > resolutions, etc. when I tried the install again. > > also XFdrake does not launch. > Doesn't run at all? I thought it could be run in text mode. > Thats what I thought to begin with. The graphicall > installer was having trouble with the video driver, so > I guess that was what was happening with X (though I > run X over OSX fine). > Apple has certain advantages, since they own the hardware platform :P We Linux folk have to rely on someone with the talent getting some hands-on time with the new hardware generally. I'm guessing X over OSX is much like Xnest, where it's not really driving the hardware itself, although I don't have OSX to know for sure. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Compiler speed
Hi, I was wondering whether it was common knowledge or whether anyone else has noticed how much faster it is to compile things on MandrakePPC over an Intel machine ? For example: 500 Mhz 1Mb L2 Cache, 384Mb RAM Wallstreet Powerlogix G3 upgrade, g++ 2.95~3mins Dual 933 MHz Pentium 3, 1Gb RAM , g++ 3.2.1 2.25 Hrs This is on a ~ 1Mb file that I was trying to compile for my research without ANY optimisation options at all. The file was generated by some other code and consists entirely of statements like -1/3*sin(a+b+c)+2*sin(a-b+c). I discovered this by accident trying to do some work on my laptop at home over Xmas; I thought it would be fun to try several of these huge object files out on my laptop when they take so long on the machines at work. I have some other files to compile that take >24 hrs w/ >900Mb RAM + >10Mb stacksize in the office. I could imagine a factor of 2-3 difference, but to have around 100 including the processor speeds was _very_ surprising. Does anyone have any experience to compare to ? Thanks, Q. I hope you still have a job, Stew!
Re: x wont boot
G4Ti. Did mandrake automatically configure this for me? I said "install-radeon" to launch the graphicall install and like others was not able to use the graphicall installer. Of course "install-text" worked fine. I was looking through the /etc/X11/Xsession config files and I think it has me down for a Radeon card. The installer also had an exact match for my screen and rez as well. I tried a number of different resolutions, etc. when I tried the install again. also XFdrake does not launch. Thats what I thought to begin with. The graphicall installer was having trouble with the video driver, so I guess that was what was happening with X (though I run X over OSX fine). --- Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nothing too Mandrake specific about startx. I just > sounds like it's not > configured for your card. > > Have you mentioned what type of machine this is? > > Stew Benedict __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: x wont boot
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Crazy Johnson wrote: > OK. I changed things around so I boot into console. I > do a startx WindowMaker, but instad of X starting up > there is this thin bar (almost looks like a progress > bar, like when Windoze starts up) at the bottom of the > screen. I never get past this. > > I really dont know how Mandrake does things. This is > not the X start screen that am used to. > Nothing too Mandrake specific about startx. I just sounds like it's not configured for your card. Have you mentioned what type of machine this is? Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: x wont boot
OK. I changed things around so I boot into console. I do a startx WindowMaker, but instad of X starting up there is this thin bar (almost looks like a progress bar, like when Windoze starts up) at the bottom of the screen. I never get past this. I really dont know how Mandrake does things. This is not the X start screen that am used to. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: 7600 install woes
Ian Robertson wrote: Hi, I have a couple of problems with the install procedure for Mandrake 8.2. I have a 7500 which has been upgraded to a 7600 (120Mhz 604 card) I have a minimal install of OS 9.1 on the first partition, (100 Meg). The other 1.9 Meg I left as blank unformated. I downloaded the images and burned both CD's on my OS 10.2.3 PowerBook using Disk Copy as per the instructions. That all went fine, however, I can't boot my 7500 from the CD. I unstuffed the install.sit on my laptop and copied the files over to the 7500. First problem I encounter is an Applescript error when I run the installer. Dialog box pops up with; "Welcome to Mandrake Linux PPC!" doesn't understand the <> message. I have run the BootX app manually and selected the vmlinux kernel and the ram disk image, set the size to 34000 and reboot. I choose CD for the install, then I get "No CD Found error" & have to select mesh.o for the driver. I get prompted for options at this point but do not enter any. The installer runs the first stage fine but when it goes to the second stage I get a blank screen and the box just hangs . When I run the same scenario with vmlinux2.2 kernel and the 2.2 ram disk image the installer runs the first stage fine but when it goes to the second stage I get; "Install exited abnormally :-( received signal 9" sending termination unmounting etc... reboot in 180 sec. Any ideas I did a successful "text-install" on my PM 7600. It worked after that and X worked with a bit of tweaking. Just try this and post your results please.
7600 install woes
Hi, I have a couple of problems with the install procedure for Mandrake 8.2. I have a 7500 which has been upgraded to a 7600 (120Mhz 604 card) I have a minimal install of OS 9.1 on the first partition, (100 Meg). The other 1.9 Meg I left as blank unformated. I downloaded the images and burned both CD's on my OS 10.2.3 PowerBook using Disk Copy as per the instructions. That all went fine, however, I can't boot my 7500 from the CD. I unstuffed the install.sit on my laptop and copied the files over to the 7500. First problem I encounter is an Applescript error when I run the installer. Dialog box pops up with; "Welcome to Mandrake Linux PPC!" doesn't understand the <> message. I have run the BootX app manually and selected the vmlinux kernel and the ram disk image, set the size to 34000 and reboot. I choose CD for the install, then I get "No CD Found error" & have to select mesh.o for the driver. I get prompted for options at this point but do not enter any. The installer runs the first stage fine but when it goes to the second stage I get a blank screen and the box just hangs . When I run the same scenario with vmlinux2.2 kernel and the 2.2 ram disk image the installer runs the first stage fine but when it goes to the second stage I get; "Install exited abnormally :-( received signal 9" sending termination unmounting etc... reboot in 180 sec. Any ideas -- Ian Robertson Third Ear Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] e=mc2 +/- 3dB
