Re: 8.2 Beta 2 problems

2002-03-28 Thread Michael Marcucio

>
>I understand the need/want, but...
>
>1) I don't have airport, hence it's difficult the do the installer work
>for it.
>2) It's too late in the development cycle now to be adding new installer
>features.
>
i totally agree with you concerning adding new features in a beta but 
installer issues/bugreports like this one seem to only come up in beta 
testing. i was wondering if there is a little "cooker to-do" list that has 
such problems so the problem won't be forgotten to be addresses before 
8.3/9.0 betas roll around?
mike
>Stew Benedict
>
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>




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Re: 8.2 Beta 2 problems

2002-03-28 Thread Stew Benedict


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote:

> >From: Justin Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:37:15 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Since many, many Macs use Airport now (and all the
> >same driver, as far as I know), why not just have an
> >installer item that ASKS the user if they have an
> >airport card?
> >
> >I know 8.2 PPC is basically x86 with some tweaks, but
> >does that prevent doing custom things in the
> >installer? Airport is generally a standard feature on
> >Macs these days, and I feel like it should get picked
> >up at install time.
> >
> that would of made my life a lot easier!!
> mike
> 

I understand the need/want, but...

1) I don't have airport, hence it's difficult the do the installer work
for it.
2) It's too late in the development cycle now to be adding new installer
features.

Stew Benedict

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Re: 8.2 Beta 2 problems

2002-03-28 Thread Michael Marcucio




>From: Justin Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:37:15 -0800 (PST)
>
>Since many, many Macs use Airport now (and all the
>same driver, as far as I know), why not just have an
>installer item that ASKS the user if they have an
>airport card?
>
>I know 8.2 PPC is basically x86 with some tweaks, but
>does that prevent doing custom things in the
>installer? Airport is generally a standard feature on
>Macs these days, and I feel like it should get picked
>up at install time.
>
that would of made my life a lot easier!!
mike

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Re: 8.2 Beta 2 problems

2002-03-28 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Peter R. Wood wrote:

> Just installed 8.2 beta 2 tonight from cd's.  I ran into a few problems:
> 
> 1) Near the end of installation, when the summary of input devices, language, 
>locale, printer, etc
> is displayed, I click on Printer to try and add a CUPS printer. Whereas this worked 
>fine in previous
> versions, I had some trouble in this version. After installing most of the packages, 
>it gave me an
> error that the 'qtcups' package was not found. I assume this is a qt frontend for 
>CUPS. In any case,
> I was not able to set up a printer because of this.
> 

Added to rpmslist.  I had used the x86 list which I thought would have
resolved these missing package issues.

> 2) When I boot up in graphical login mode, the KDM screen is still butt-ugly/messed 
>up as in
> previous releases. I'm assuming this is a problem that is the responsibility of KDE 
>developers?
> 

Unfortunately, in the 4 machines I've had access too, I haven't yet seen
this behaviour, so it's a bit hard to fix.

> 3) GNOME seems to have lots of problems. It starts up somewhat okay, but I get 
>errors related to
> 'bonobo-moniker-archiver' when I do various things, such as opening up capplets in 
>the Control
> Center. Specifically, it's telling me that 'bonobo-moniker-archiver' has segfaulted, 
>and that
> /usr/bin/background-properties-control has segfaulted.  Are there some new 
>bonobo/gnome packages
> that I can urpmi?
> 

No there aren't. Unfortunately no-one mentioned any additional issue with
gnome, besides the original missing libs until a couple of days ago, and
the ISO's were already burnt by then. I'll look into it.

> 4) Network detection during install doesn't seem foolproof, and this is more of a 
>general Mandrake
> issue than a PPC-specific one. But nonetheless, here it is:
> I've got gmac ethernet built in on my Pismo, as well as an airport card. When the 
>network detecter
> runs, it only detects my gmac.  I then must tell it that I have another interface, 
>and select the
> Apple Airport driver, which it will then load.  Obviously, this is something I 
>understand, but the
> novice user may not know what to do. I'm not sure how to make it easier for a novice 
>user, but we
> would definitely want the airport module to be detected. Ideally, it should be 
>detected along with
> the gmac interface, and presented to them in a list of interfaces which can be 
>chosen radio-button
> style. I.E. pick either gmac or airport, and give an option for advanced users to 
>choose both if
> they want to. Most novice users, however, would not understand the concept of having 
>two network
> interfaces operating simultaneously.  I dunno. Just rambling about this a bit, so if 
>it seems inane,
> please ignore. :-)
> 

Good ideas, I don't think it will be implemented this time around though.

Stew Benedict

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Re: 8.2 Beta 2 problems

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:30:58PM -0500, Peter R. Wood wrote:
> 4) Network detection during install doesn't seem foolproof, and this is more of a 
>general Mandrake
> issue than a PPC-specific one. But nonetheless, here it is:
> I've got gmac ethernet built in on my Pismo, as well as an airport card. When the 
>network detecter
> runs, it only detects my gmac.  I then must tell it that I have another interface, 
>and select the
> Apple Airport driver, which it will then load.  Obviously, this is something I 
>understand, but the
> novice user may not know what to do. I'm not sure how to make it easier for a novice 
>user, but we
> would definitely want the airport module to be detected. Ideally, it should be 
>detected along with
> the gmac interface, and presented to them in a list of interfaces which can be 
>chosen radio-button
> style. I.E. pick either gmac or airport, and give an option for advanced users to 
>choose both if
> they want to. Most novice users, however, would not understand the concept of having 
>two network
> interfaces operating simultaneously.  I dunno. Just rambling about this a bit, so if 
>it seems inane,
> please ignore. :-)

The airport uses a proprietary interface (i.e. not PCI, ISA, or PCMCIA).
I'm not sure we know of a way to detect it at this point.

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