RE: Network boot problems
yeah, but they DO have floppy images, and i have a floppy drive so i shall forsake mandrake for the time being, a few weeks maybe. i just need to get something up and running. i don't like os9 and i don't have x andy -Original Message- From: Ben Reser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network boot problems On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:03:15PM +0200, Janne Karjanlahti wrote: > I wonder if we can boot Linux net-install without ANY physical media. > The folk on Debian side have done just that, look > http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html Yes been there talked about that. It doesn't work on the titanium's. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: Network boot problems
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:03:15PM +0200, Janne Karjanlahti wrote: > I wonder if we can boot Linux net-install without ANY physical media. > The folk on Debian side have done just that, look > http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html Yes been there talked about that. It doesn't work on the titanium's. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
RE: Network boot problems
jkarjanl, i think this will work nicely. thanks andy -Original Message- From: Janne Karjanlahti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network boot problems I wonder if we can boot Linux net-install without ANY physical media. The folk on Debian side have done just that, look http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html -jkarjanl > On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:42:35PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > > ok, i feel that I may need to clarify. or maybe not. My dvd-rom drive on > > my tibook is inoperable. is there another way to modify the partitions > > without booting off a cd? i only have one 20gb partition on the 20gb drive. > > so i can't mix and match. also, i do NOT mind blowing away macos, don't > > need or want it really. > > Well if you're sure that you can boot off a floppy why don't you boot > off a MacOS floppy that has DriveSetup on it and go from there? > > -- > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://ben.reser.org > > What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, > whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism > or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi >
RE: Network boot problems
that is an excellent idea. all i need to do is figure out how to make a floppy bootable. if anyone knows or can point me in the right direction, i'd appreciate it. i'm a long time pc user here, attempting to migrate to what I consider a higher quality platform. andy -Original Message- From: Ben Reser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network boot problems On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:42:35PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > ok, i feel that I may need to clarify. or maybe not. My dvd-rom drive on > my tibook is inoperable. is there another way to modify the partitions > without booting off a cd? i only have one 20gb partition on the 20gb drive. > so i can't mix and match. also, i do NOT mind blowing away macos, don't > need or want it really. Well if you're sure that you can boot off a floppy why don't you boot off a MacOS floppy that has DriveSetup on it and go from there? -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: Network boot problems
I wonder if we can boot Linux net-install without ANY physical media. The folk on Debian side have done just that, look http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html -jkarjanl > On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:42:35PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > > ok, i feel that I may need to clarify. or maybe not. My dvd-rom drive on > > my tibook is inoperable. is there another way to modify the partitions > > without booting off a cd? i only have one 20gb partition on the 20gb drive. > > so i can't mix and match. also, i do NOT mind blowing away macos, don't > > need or want it really. > > Well if you're sure that you can boot off a floppy why don't you boot > off a MacOS floppy that has DriveSetup on it and go from there? > > -- > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://ben.reser.org > > What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, > whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism > or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi >
Re: Network boot problems
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:42:35PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > ok, i feel that I may need to clarify. or maybe not. My dvd-rom drive on > my tibook is inoperable. is there another way to modify the partitions > without booting off a cd? i only have one 20gb partition on the 20gb drive. > so i can't mix and match. also, i do NOT mind blowing away macos, don't > need or want it really. Well if you're sure that you can boot off a floppy why don't you boot off a MacOS floppy that has DriveSetup on it and go from there? -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
RE: Network boot problems
ok, i feel that I may need to clarify. or maybe not. My dvd-rom drive on my tibook is inoperable. is there another way to modify the partitions without booting off a cd? i only have one 20gb partition on the 20gb drive. so i can't mix and match. also, i do NOT mind blowing away macos, don't need or want it really. andy -Original Message- From: Stew Benedict [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:24 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Network boot problems On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > but how do i rearrange the partitions without a cd? It's kinda like the > chicken and the egg. I may need to just get an external cd-rom. > I meant to do all that from MacOS. You need to prep free drive space anyway, or Linux will wipe out MacOS. > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > > > Do you have any suggestions on how I can get Mandrake installed? dying > > here, hehe :) > > > > Your CD is just broken? At a mimimum you need to get a kernel and stage1 > in a position to load up, via yaboot or whatever. You might be able to do > this from an hfs partition and OF: > > Make an hfs partition. > Put the contents of /boot of the CD on it. (ftp from another machine?) > Boot from OF using boot hd:X,\\:yaboot (X=partition number you created) > > Haven't tried this, but in theory it should work. > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
RE: Network boot problems
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > but how do i rearrange the partitions without a cd? It's kinda like the > chicken and the egg. I may need to just get an external cd-rom. > I meant to do all that from MacOS. You need to prep free drive space anyway, or Linux will wipe out MacOS. > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > > > Do you have any suggestions on how I can get Mandrake installed? dying > > here, hehe :) > > > > Your CD is just broken? At a mimimum you need to get a kernel and stage1 > in a position to load up, via yaboot or whatever. You might be able to do > this from an hfs partition and OF: > > Make an hfs partition. > Put the contents of /boot of the CD on it. (ftp from another machine?) > Boot from OF using boot hd:X,\\:yaboot (X=partition number you created) > > Haven't tried this, but in theory it should work. > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Network boot problems
Yello On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 13:20:16 -0600 "Kener, Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > eh? http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/helpme/acronyms.htm I had to look it up to :) -- Mvh. / Kind regards Henrik Farre < enrique AT obel DOT auc DOT dk > - If I where God, I would recompile the penguin with --enable-flying.
RE: Network boot problems
eh? andy -Original Message- From: Ben Reser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network boot problems On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:51:47PM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote: > Haven't tried this, but in theory it should work. GMTA -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: Network boot problems
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:51:47PM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote: > Haven't tried this, but in theory it should work. GMTA -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
RE: Network boot problems
but how do i rearrange the partitions without a cd? It's kinda like the chicken and the egg. I may need to just get an external cd-rom. andy -Original Message- From: Stew Benedict [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:52 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Network boot problems On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > Do you have any suggestions on how I can get Mandrake installed? dying > here, hehe :) > Your CD is just broken? At a mimimum you need to get a kernel and stage1 in a position to load up, via yaboot or whatever. You might be able to do this from an hfs partition and OF: Make an hfs partition. Put the contents of /boot of the CD on it. (ftp from another machine?) Boot from OF using boot hd:X,\\:yaboot (X=partition number you created) Haven't tried this, but in theory it should work. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
RE: Network boot problems
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > Do you have any suggestions on how I can get Mandrake installed? dying > here, hehe :) > Your CD is just broken? At a mimimum you need to get a kernel and stage1 in a position to load up, via yaboot or whatever. You might be able to do this from an hfs partition and OF: Make an hfs partition. Put the contents of /boot of the CD on it. (ftp from another machine?) Boot from OF using boot hd:X,\\:yaboot (X=partition number you created) Haven't tried this, but in theory it should work. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
RE: Network boot problems
I believe it does. Steve, any thoughts on making a bootable floppy for the install? andy -Original Message- From: Ben Reser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network boot problems On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:42:33PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > can I boot off a floppy for mandrake install? i have an external floppy > drive Well there aren't any floppy images made for ppc. Stew might be able to tell you what to do to make them. However, the real question is will open firmware let you boot off a floppy. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
RE: Network boot problems
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > can I boot off a floppy for mandrake install? i have an external floppy > drive > I haven't done any work on a floppy based boot. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Network boot problems
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:42:33PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > can I boot off a floppy for mandrake install? i have an external floppy > drive Well there aren't any floppy images made for ppc. Stew might be able to tell you what to do to make them. However, the real question is will open firmware let you boot off a floppy. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
RE: Network boot problems
can I boot off a floppy for mandrake install? i have an external floppy drive andy -Original Message- From: Ben Reser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network boot problems On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:25:28PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > Do you have any suggestions on how I can get Mandrake installed? dying > here, hehe :) a) Fix the cdrom. b) Make a partition on the machine put all the first stage stuff on it. Reboot into open firmware (Cmd+Option+O+F). boot hd:X,\\:tbxi where X is your partition number that you put the stuff on. (It needs to be a HFS partition too). From there you ought to be able to start an FTP install. At any rate I haven't tested this but theoretically it should work. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: Network boot problems
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:25:28PM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > Do you have any suggestions on how I can get Mandrake installed? dying > here, hehe :) a) Fix the cdrom. b) Make a partition on the machine put all the first stage stuff on it. Reboot into open firmware (Cmd+Option+O+F). boot hd:X,\\:tbxi where X is your partition number that you put the stuff on. (It needs to be a HFS partition too). From there you ought to be able to start an FTP install. At any rate I haven't tested this but theoretically it should work. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
RE: Network boot problems
Do you have any suggestions on how I can get Mandrake installed? dying here, hehe :) andy -Original Message- From: Stew Benedict [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:15 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Network boot problems On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > Hullo. > > I am using a powerbook g4 500 titanium and I'm trying to install 8.2rc2. My > problem is a non-working cd-rom. As such is the case, I am attempting to do > a network boot and install, using dhcpd and tftp. I followed the > instructions in the html file in the doc directory on setting up for a a > network boot, but for some reason the process seems to stall after being > assigned an ip address via the dhcp server. My server is a celeron 300 > running slackware 8.0. I have also enclosed copies of my .conf files. If > anyone has any suggestions or knows what I am doing wrong, plz let me know. > Thanks :) > > I'm not so sure the TiBooks can netboot like documented there. I tried the borrowed one here, and something has changed in OF that the method I use for the iMac and Powerbook no longer work. I believe Ben gave it a whirl a while back on his too, with little success. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Network boot problems
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote: > Hullo. > > I am using a powerbook g4 500 titanium and I'm trying to install 8.2rc2. My > problem is a non-working cd-rom. As such is the case, I am attempting to do > a network boot and install, using dhcpd and tftp. I followed the > instructions in the html file in the doc directory on setting up for a a > network boot, but for some reason the process seems to stall after being > assigned an ip address via the dhcp server. My server is a celeron 300 > running slackware 8.0. I have also enclosed copies of my .conf files. If > anyone has any suggestions or knows what I am doing wrong, plz let me know. > Thanks :) > > I'm not so sure the TiBooks can netboot like documented there. I tried the borrowed one here, and something has changed in OF that the method I use for the iMac and Powerbook no longer work. I believe Ben gave it a whirl a while back on his too, with little success. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Network boot problems
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:56:54AM -0600, Kener, Andy wrote: > I am using a powerbook g4 500 titanium and I'm trying to install 8.2rc2. My > problem is a non-working cd-rom. As such is the case, I am attempting to do > a network boot and install, using dhcpd and tftp. I followed the > instructions in the html file in the doc directory on setting up for a a > network boot, but for some reason the process seems to stall after being > assigned an ip address via the dhcp server. My server is a celeron 300 > running slackware 8.0. I have also enclosed copies of my .conf files. If > anyone has any suggestions or knows what I am doing wrong, plz let me know. > Thanks :) I have had similar problems on my titanium (same version 500). As far as I can tell the Titanium's don't like doing netboots. Never figured it out. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
