Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
If you're indeed hitting the 1st 2GB issue. (I forget, is this an old iMac?), OSX on the 1st 7.5GB is the problem. You need 1 MB bootstrap somewhere in the 1st 2GB. You're a bit off, it's the first 8 GB! ;-) //ernie In that case, then I don't know why yaboot isn't working on that machine. Stew Benedict It's not working because there is a 2nd partition immediately after the first, so I have the MacOSX system partition in the first 7.5GB, then a MacOSX Data partition in the next 7.5GB, and THEN the MandrakePPC bootstrap following that (with the remaining Mandrake partitions after the bootstrap)... so the bootstrap is well outside the first 8GB... So I think I'll try removing only the OSX Data partition, then adding the Mandrake bootstrap and go from there to see what happens... Don't know when I'll have time to go at it, but I'll let y'all know. Might be worth a footnote in the documentation... Damon
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: yaboot on it's own partition? I thought it was on the /boot partition for Mandrake PPC? And that the Open Firmware would go to the blessed partition then get redirected to the /boot where yaboot exists? I'm thinking I'm way off base here... bootstrap != /boot One distro did that (LinuxPPC?), and a lot of people assume that, but it's not the case. The bootstrap partition holds only the parts of yaboot needed to boot the machine. /boot is exactly as it would be on x86. The bootstrap is not mounted on the Linux side, and only accessed when you run ybin. Folks that have tried to treat the bootstrap as /boot duing the install end up with a bit of a mess, since we only allocate 1MB for it, and the kernel/initrd generally take up a bit more than that. Can I ask for partitioning suggestions based on the following info: OSX on the first 7.5GB Data on the second 7.5GB If you're indeed hitting the 1st 2GB issue. (I forget, is this an old iMac?), OSX on the 1st 7.5GB is the problem. You need 1 MB bootstrap somewhere in the 1st 2GB. From there my assumption was the blessed partition had its own space, a separate /boot partition of about 40MB was needed, a / partition for the file system was necessary, the a swap partition for virtual memory. Is that wrong? Should the /boot and blessed partitions be the same? Is that where I've gone wrong? When I looked at the installer's depiction of the partitions I could see the two Mac partitions, then the 4 above listed partitions (with the blessed partition just following the two Mac partitions)... The above is correct. A seperate /boot isn't mandatory, but some folks like to share it between Linux installs. A seperate bootstrap, or blessed partition is definitely part of our configuration on NewWorld machines. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
Okay, here's what I've discovered. Booted to rescue mode, did the chroot and
I have NO yaboot.conf in my /etc/ directory! It would appear that I don't
have a valid boot loader installed at all. I haven't been able to find a way
to install it. When I mess with ybin I keep getting an error indicating I
need to specify the deive for the bootstrap partition in the form
boot=/dev/hdaX - that device should be hda8 according to the Mandrake setup
that shows the blessed bootstrap partition as 8. What can I do to get
yaboot going?
To sum up, it appears that the Open Firmware is going to the right partition
and not finding boot info...
I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question, but can I run grub instead?
Damon
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote:
[...]
Attempted the following:
1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
[This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as
the
blessed partition where the normal startup would go to look for the
boot
manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to
write
that partition number down and use the above process in case of a
failed
boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux
partitions I
created follow it. ]
Ok, so you went into OF and did a setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi?
(My syntax could be slightly off). I had to do this last night myself,
booting from an 8.2 install CD into rescue mode and running ybin in
chroot as I booted into OS X and changed the startup disk to boot into
OS9 so I could upgrade the version of palmos on my palm. Does
printenv boot-device show the correct thing?
I'm not really sure what else to suggest. The strangest behaviour I've
got is when turning on my G4 (after it's been off), it loads up a grey
screen and stalls, and I have to power down again. Once I power up the
second time, ybin comes up just fine for me.
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Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote:
Okay, here's what I've discovered. Booted to rescue mode, did the chroot and
I have NO yaboot.conf in my /etc/ directory! It would appear that I don't
have a valid boot loader installed at all. I haven't been able to find a way
to install it. When I mess with ybin I keep getting an error indicating I
need to specify the deive for the bootstrap partition in the form
boot=/dev/hdaX - that device should be hda8 according to the Mandrake setup
that shows the blessed bootstrap partition as 8. What can I do to get
yaboot going?
To sum up, it appears that the Open Firmware is going to the right partition
and not finding boot info...
I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question, but can I run grub instead?
Damon
Nope - can't use grub. This should get you going - edit appropriately and
make sure the kernel and initrd referenced are in /boot. This is a new
one, don't think I've seen anyone report this before.
#yaboot.conf - generated by DrakX
init-message=\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n
boot=/dev/hda6
ofboot=hd:6
delay=30
timeout=50
install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
enablecdboot
enableofboot
defaultos=linux
default=linux
image=hd:7,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hda14
initrd=hd:7,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img
append= devfs=mount
read-only
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote:
[...]
Attempted the following:
1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
[This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as
the
blessed partition where the normal startup would go to look for the
boot
manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to
write
that partition number down and use the above process in case of a
failed
boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux
partitions I
created follow it. ]
Ok, so you went into OF and did a setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi?
(My syntax could be slightly off). I had to do this last night myself,
booting from an 8.2 install CD into rescue mode and running ybin in
chroot as I booted into OS X and changed the startup disk to boot into
OS9 so I could upgrade the version of palmos on my palm. Does
printenv boot-device show the correct thing?
I'm not really sure what else to suggest. The strangest behaviour I've
got is when turning on my G4 (after it's been off), it loads up a grey
screen and stalls, and I have to power down again. Once I power up the
second time, ybin comes up just fine for me.
--
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Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt
correctly the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really
accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the
system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts:
1. yaboot.conf looks normal to me; I've reproduced it below:
#yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx
init-message=\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n
boot=/dev/hda8
ofboot=hd:8
delay=30
timeout=50
install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot
enablecdboot
enableofboot
defaultos=linux
default=linux
image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hda11
initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img
append= devfs=mount
read-only
image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda11
initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img
append= devfs=mount failsafe
read-only
macos=hd:6
2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as
follows:
ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated
ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto
/dev/hda8
ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto
/dev/hda8
ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8
ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot...
ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot...
ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf...
ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee...
Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system?
3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: probable
root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3) and Mounting /dev/hda9 on
/mnt/boot type ext2
What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within
the first 1024 cylinders of the drive?
Damon
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote:
Okay, here's what I've discovered. Booted to rescue mode, did the chroot
and
I have NO yaboot.conf in my /etc/ directory! It would appear that I
don't
have a valid boot loader installed at all. I haven't been able to find a
way
to install it. When I mess with ybin I keep getting an error indicating
I
need to specify the deive for the bootstrap partition in the form
boot=/dev/hdaX - that device should be hda8 according to the Mandrake
setup
that shows the blessed bootstrap partition as 8. What can I do to get
yaboot going?
To sum up, it appears that the Open Firmware is going to the right
partition
and not finding boot info...
I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question, but can I run grub instead?
Damon
Nope - can't use grub. This should get you going - edit appropriately and
make sure the kernel and initrd referenced are in /boot. This is a new
one, don't think I've seen anyone report this before.
#yaboot.conf - generated by DrakX
init-message=\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n
boot=/dev/hda6
ofboot=hd:6
delay=30
timeout=50
install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
enablecdboot
enableofboot
defaultos=linux
default=linux
image=hd:7,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hda14
initrd=hd:7,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img
append= devfs=mount
read-only
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote:
[...]
Attempted the following:
1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
[This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as
the
blessed partition where the normal startup would go to look for the
boot
manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to
write
that partition number down and use the above process in case of a
failed
boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux
partitions I
created follow it. ]
Ok, so you went into OF and did a setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi?
(My syntax could be slightly off). I had to do this last night myself,
booting from an 8.2 install CD into rescue mode and running ybin in
chroot as I booted into OS X and changed the startup disk to boot into
OS9 so I could upgrade the version of palmos on my palm. Does
printenv boot-device show the correct thing?
I'm not really sure what else to suggest. The strangest behaviour I've
got is when turning on my G4 (after it's been off), it loads up a grey
screen and stalls, and I have to power down again. Once I power up the
second time, ybin comes up just fine for me.
--
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lynx - source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import
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Stew
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt correctly the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts: 1. yaboot.conf looks normal to me; I've reproduced it below: #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx init-message=\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n boot=/dev/hda8 ofboot=hd:8 delay=30 timeout=50 install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot enablecdboot enableofboot defaultos=linux default=linux image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=linux root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount read-only image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=failsafe root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only macos=hd:6 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as follows: ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: probable root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3) and Mounting /dev/hda9 on /mnt/boot type ext2 What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? Damon There was a problem on some of the old iMacs where yaboot needed to be in the first 2GB? or so. Wasn't much of an issue until folks started upgrading them with big drives. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being where I am attempting to put the blessed partition, the /boot partition, the / partition and the /swap partition... How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be installed thru OSX? Damon - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt correctly the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts: 1. yaboot.conf looks normal to me; I've reproduced it below: #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx init-message=\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n boot=/dev/hda8 ofboot=hd:8 delay=30 timeout=50 install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot enablecdboot enableofboot defaultos=linux default=linux image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=linux root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount read-only image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=failsafe root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only macos=hd:6 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as follows: ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: probable root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3) and Mounting /dev/hda9 on /mnt/boot type ext2 What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? Damon There was a problem on some of the old iMacs where yaboot needed to be in the first 2GB? or so. Wasn't much of an issue until folks started upgrading them with big drives. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being where I am attempting to put the blessed partition, the /boot partition, the / partition and the /swap partition... How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be installed thru OSX? No way that I know of. I don't have OSX, but yaboot really should be on it's own partition, though I've seen folks do workarounds. (check the linuxppc archives). Problem then becomes doing kernel upgrades when you can't access it from the Linux side. My preference is to keep the seperate OS's as seperate as possible. Damon - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt correctly the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts: 1. yaboot.conf looks normal to me; I've reproduced it below: #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx init-message=\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n boot=/dev/hda8 ofboot=hd:8 delay=30 timeout=50 install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot enablecdboot enableofboot defaultos=linux default=linux image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=linux root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount read-only image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=failsafe root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only macos=hd:6 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as follows: ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: probable root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3) and Mounting /dev/hda9 on /mnt/boot type ext2 What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? Damon There was a problem on some of the old iMacs where yaboot needed to be in the first 2GB? or so. Wasn't much of an issue until folks started upgrading them with big drives. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
yaboot on it's own partition? I thought it was on the /boot partition for Mandrake PPC? And that the Open Firmware would go to the blessed partition then get redirected to the /boot where yaboot exists? I'm thinking I'm way off base here... Can I ask for partitioning suggestions based on the following info: OSX on the first 7.5GB Data on the second 7.5GB From there my assumption was the blessed partition had its own space, a separate /boot partition of about 40MB was needed, a / partition for the file system was necessary, the a swap partition for virtual memory. Is that wrong? Should the /boot and blessed partitions be the same? Is that where I've gone wrong? When I looked at the installer's depiction of the partitions I could see the two Mac partitions, then the 4 above listed partitions (with the blessed partition just following the two Mac partitions)... Damon - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being where I am attempting to put the blessed partition, the /boot partition, the / partition and the /swap partition... How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be installed thru OSX? No way that I know of. I don't have OSX, but yaboot really should be on it's own partition, though I've seen folks do workarounds. (check the linuxppc archives). Problem then becomes doing kernel upgrades when you can't access it from the Linux side. My preference is to keep the seperate OS's as seperate as possible. Damon - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt correctly the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts: 1. yaboot.conf looks normal to me; I've reproduced it below: #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx init-message=\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n boot=/dev/hda8 ofboot=hd:8 delay=30 timeout=50 install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot enablecdboot enableofboot defaultos=linux default=linux image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=linux root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount read-only image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=failsafe root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only macos=hd:6 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as follows: ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: probable root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3) and Mounting /dev/hda9 on /mnt/boot type ext2 What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? Damon There was a problem on some of the old iMacs where yaboot needed to be in the first 2GB? or so. Wasn't much of an issue until folks started upgrading them with big drives. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 07:49:51PM -0600, Damon Garn wrote: Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being where I am attempting to put the blessed partition, the /boot partition, the / partition and the /swap partition... How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be installed thru OSX? You can't. Unless there is a utility like Partition Magic for the Mac. But I'm not aware of one.Best way to do it is to leave a 1MB partition on the hard-drive as the first partition. Then use that as your boot strap. Make sure to leave it as Apple_Free. Otherwise the installer won't to cooperate with you and use it. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 08:30:07PM -0600, Damon Garn wrote: yaboot on it's own partition? I thought it was on the /boot partition for Mandrake PPC? And that the Open Firmware would go to the blessed partition then get redirected to the /boot where yaboot exists? I'm thinking I'm way off base here... Can I ask for partitioning suggestions based on the following info: OSX on the first 7.5GB Data on the second 7.5GB From there my assumption was the blessed partition had its own space, a separate /boot partition of about 40MB was needed, a / partition for the file system was necessary, the a swap partition for virtual memory. Is that wrong? Should the /boot and blessed partitions be the same? Is that where I've gone wrong? When I looked at the installer's depiction of the partitions I could see the two Mac partitions, then the 4 above listed partitions (with the blessed partition just following the two Mac partitions)... /boot is on the / partition for Mandrake PPC. Linux/PPC uses the /boot as the bootstrap. Mandrake uses a small 1MB bootstrap partition and then puts /boot on just the root partition. Just a fundamentally different boot design. Threw me at first too. But as a result yaboot basically gets it's own partition, the bootstrap. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote:
[...]
Attempted the following:
1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
[This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as
the
blessed partition where the normal startup would go to look for the
boot
manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to
write
that partition number down and use the above process in case of a
failed
boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux
partitions I
created follow it. ]
Ok, so you went into OF and did a setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi?
(My syntax could be slightly off). I had to do this last night myself,
booting from an 8.2 install CD into rescue mode and running ybin in
chroot as I booted into OS X and changed the startup disk to boot into
OS9 so I could upgrade the version of palmos on my palm. Does
printenv boot-device show the correct thing?
I'm not really sure what else to suggest. The strangest behaviour I've
got is when turning on my G4 (after it's been off), it loads up a grey
screen and stalls, and I have to power down again. Once I power up the
second time, ybin comes up just fine for me.
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Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
- Original Message -
From: Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, at 08:17 AM, Damon Garn wrote:
I've just attempted a Mandrake 8.2ppc install on my iMac266, which is
already running MacOSX. The expert install sequence appeared to
succeed correctly (it even reported a successful install). Upon reboot
I get only a grey screen - no boot loader prompt. The machine sits
idle from that point, forcing a manual restart.
This is yaboot not working properly most likely.
Attempted the following:
1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
[This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as the
blessed partition where the normal startup would go to look for the boot
manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to write
that partition number down and use the above process in case of a failed
boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux partitions I
created follow it. ]
2. followed the documentation suggestion of resetting the pram with
cmd-opt-p-r and that allows a successful OSX boot. Apple's Disk
Utility continues to show the two 7.8GB OSX partitions I had as well
as a greyed-out bootstrap partition (I suspect this to be the
blessed partition). No Linux partitions show (is it normal for them
not to show?). I requested /boot at 45MB, / at 10GB, /swap at 400MB
and it claimed to be building them. I requested ext3 for the /
partition, if it matters.
No, OS X will not show the Linux partitions. Unfortunately. =)
3. Subscribed to this list. :)
Good move... =)
No funky hardware - all is stock except for the larger hard drive I
installed a year or so ago, which I had left with free space so I
could try this very thing.
My mind is fuzzy, so I'm probably not too much help, but if you can
provide the details of /dev/hda8 that'd be great.
[See above - designated by Mandrake installer as location of boot manager.]
The other option might be to boot off the 8.2 install CD into rescue
mode, then chroot your root partition (usually automatically mounted in
/mnt, so do chroot /mnt) and check your /etc/yaboot.conf file to make
sure it looks ok. Also try running ybin -v to regenerate the
bootstrap stuff.
The other option, that I've encountered on my newer G4 imac, is I've
had to power down the imac after getting it stalling like you describe,
but on the next power up yaboot always comes up fine. So for me it's
just a nuisance.
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iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
I've just attempted a Mandrake 8.2ppc install on my iMac266, which is already running MacOSX. The expert install sequenceappeared to succeed correctly (it even reported a successful install). Upon reboot I get only a grey screen - no boot loader prompt. The machine sits idle from that point, forcing a manual restart. Attempted the following: 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then 'shut-down' 2. followed the documentation suggestion of resetting the pram with cmd-opt-p-r and that allows a successful OSX boot. Apple's Disk Utility continues to show the two 7.8GB OSX partitions I had as well as a greyed-out "bootstrap" partition (I suspect this to be the "blessed partition"). No Linux partitions show (is it normal for them not to show?). I requested /boot at 45MB, / at 10GB, /swap at 400MB and it claimed to be building them. I requested ext3 for the / partition, if it matters. 3. Subscribed to this list. :) No funky hardware - all is stock except for the larger hard drive I installed a year or so ago, which I had left with free space so I could try this very thing. Damon Garn
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, at 08:17 AM, Damon Garn wrote:
I've just attempted a Mandrake 8.2ppc install on my iMac266, which is
already running MacOSX. The expert install sequence appeared to
succeed correctly (it even reported a successful install). Upon reboot
I get only a grey screen - no boot loader prompt. The machine sits
idle from that point, forcing a manual restart.
This is yaboot not working properly most likely.
Attempted the following:
1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
2. followed the documentation suggestion of resetting the pram with
cmd-opt-p-r and that allows a successful OSX boot. Apple's Disk
Utility continues to show the two 7.8GB OSX partitions I had as well
as a greyed-out bootstrap partition (I suspect this to be the
blessed partition). No Linux partitions show (is it normal for them
not to show?). I requested /boot at 45MB, / at 10GB, /swap at 400MB
and it claimed to be building them. I requested ext3 for the /
partition, if it matters.
No, OS X will not show the Linux partitions. Unfortunately. =)
3. Subscribed to this list. :)
Good move... =)
No funky hardware - all is stock except for the larger hard drive I
installed a year or so ago, which I had left with free space so I
could try this very thing.
My mind is fuzzy, so I'm probably not too much help, but if you can
provide the details of /dev/hda8 that'd be great.
The other option might be to boot off the 8.2 install CD into rescue
mode, then chroot your root partition (usually automatically mounted in
/mnt, so do chroot /mnt) and check your /etc/yaboot.conf file to make
sure it looks ok. Also try running ybin -v to regenerate the
bootstrap stuff.
The other option, that I've encountered on my newer G4 imac, is I've
had to power down the imac after getting it stalling like you describe,
but on the next power up yaboot always comes up fine. So for me it's
just a nuisance.
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