Re: [Coworking] Coworking.com Share alike?

2010-02-22 Thread Alex Hillman
Interesting! What license would you suggest is a better culture/ethose fit?

-Alex

On Monday, February 22, 2010, Andrius Kulikauskas m...@ms.lt wrote:
 Congratulations on setting up http://coworking.com

 I noted this:  All material is suggested to be shared under Creative Commons 
 Share-Alike Attribution license, unless specifically cited by the author.

 The Share Alike license is a very regressive license and is very disruptive 
 for Public Domain content.  It insists that any work that it gets included in 
 must also be Share Alike.  For example, I have made great efforts to organize 
 my Minciu Sodas laboratory's venues in the Public Domain.  If somebody sends 
 a letter using the Share Alike license, or includes an excerpt using the 
 Share Alike license - including anything from coworking.com - then by the 
 terms of the license, we would have to delete it, or our entire archive would 
 leave the Public Domain.

 Please think about what the license says.  And then choose to use another 
 license!

 Co-working is about sharing.  Share alike is not.  It's an unfortunate fad.

 Andrius

 Andrius Kulikauskas
 Minciu Sodas
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Clarification

2010-02-22 Thread Ryan Price
a something that helps potential space owners validate market  
demand in their area for a space, provide the nuts and bolts of what  
works and what doesn't work in nearby spaces


In Orlando I've been having lots of discussions this week about  
selling the idea of coworking to the neighborhood, economic  
development, possibly some charitable donors - not my first choice,  
but our (new, un-named) space will have the support of a non-profit  
organization, and they tend to see the world in that way.


I know Alex has a bit of experience with his city's government - and  
what those people want to know about is the economic impact of  
something like Coworking. That is probably the last thing most people  
think of when they walk in to a space with their laptop to get some  
work done.


I'd like to see more case studies about the benefits, sustainability -  
along the lines of the survey / study discussion earlier this month:

http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/browse_thread/thread/58c35d7bc22d8f3d/c9b3e37e18deaab8?hl=enlnk=raot#c9b3e37e18deaab8

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On Feb 19, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Alex Hillman wrote:

a something that helps potential space owners validate market  
demand in their area for a space, provide the nuts and bolts of what  
works and what doesn't work in nearby spaces


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[Coworking] indycube - Wales' first coworking space opens on March 1st 2010

2010-02-22 Thread indycubemark
Hi everyone,

We're about to open the doors on the very first co-working space in
Wales, UK. We're a space focused on the media and creative sectors and
are holding our first jelly on March 1st (and its almost sold out
after just 24 hours!!). We've picked up a lot of interest 'under the
radar' and intend using the success of this jelly and future ones to
progress the space. Our 'official' launch will be on May 4th when our
membership schemes kick in. Up until then co-workers can try us out
for only £10 per day...

Feel free to keep an eye on us via @indycube and @cardiffjelly - and a
MASSIVE thanks to the great advice I've gleaned from this group.

Diolch yn fawr (Thanks very much, in Welsh!)

Mark Hooper
Founder, indycube

www.indycube.biz

PS - we've signed up to the Co-Working Visa Scheme, so anytime you are
in Sunny Cardiff :) we'd make sure there's a desk, and a mug of
freshly brewed coffee waiting for you!

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Community Acquisition of Coworking.com

2010-02-22 Thread Ryan Price
Another community I belong to, Drupal, had a blank one-screen site for  
a long time at Drupal.com (they use drupal.org day-to-day) - now they  
have something much more useful. I think it makes a good example.  
(plus Tara's awesome screenshots)

http://drupal.com/
What is Drupal? different things to different people
Who is Drupal? a few non-verbal profiles of community members,  
personalities

Where is Drupal? fun examples of drupal devotion and major events

It's the story of Drupal, not some definition.

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On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:14 PM, coworking wrote:


Steven, I like you wonder why the urgency of the sell/buy on the
website name and who the other almost purchaser was/is? I am
thrilled to get caught up today on the collaboration taking place to
solidify the collective group of coworkers. Our local coworking
community is slowly growing and building awareness in the Chattanooga,
TN business community. We're holding bi-weekly Jelly! Chattanooga
events that are also growing in attendance. We are very interested in
networking with more coworking communities and collaborating to
promote coworking to the general working public.

Alex, we appreciate your rally on this. Each coworking community is
unique in its member demographics and ability to instantaneously
raise funds. This line of thought brought up by Danielle Nicoli shines
some interesting issues to consider as we push forward toward a more
common ground for coworking communities.

I think these issues should be brought up at SXSW. Forgive me, but is
anyone going to stream online any of the coworking discussion. I
would be v-e-r-y interested along with the other coworking communities
to participate in the conversation. With all the geeks among us I
would hope this would be possibledreaming of being there.

At your service,
Denise Reed
www.theconciergelevel.com
600 Republic Centre
633 Chestnut Street
Chattanooga, TN 37450

On Feb 15, 8:45 pm, Steven Heath she...@gmail.com wrote:
Last point I have been pondering who is this group that wanted  
to come in and make this buy? Why did they want it and why now?  
What was the

urgency?


'We' had 3 days to decide if we could make an offer and buy this  
name. Alex
emailed about a dozen people which resulted in enough interest to  
1, fund a
good hunk of the price and 2, allow a public post to secure the  
rest of the

monies.

No one, and I mean no one, expected this money to be agreed and 70%
collected in 36 hours!

The initial off list discussions resulted in messages about 'legal  
entity'
and 'value for money' and 'what the heck, better than some sleaze  
ball

having it'.

Once it was decided to go after this name we (really Alex) had  
little time

to lose to get the pledges, put the offer in and then secure funds.

I think the reason it worked is that we believe in the 'cause' and  
each
could afford a share of the funds to secure the domain name. Alex  
had the
idea, bunch of us agreed with him, agreed to support him in the  
approach and

here we are!

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[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

2010-02-22 Thread Ryan Price
Is it wrong to create *an* entity, not *the* entity, that can take
some action? Many open source projects have similar support to help
them pay for web servers and the like. I'm sure this idea has even
been mentioned earlier in the week. I guess that some people might see
the new thing as the lightning rod - which could be good or bad.

Then, once there are some processes (e.g. how do I get a password)
they can be documented and things can be very distributed and self-
starting, except for those few times when we need to renew a domain
name or whatever. For a year or two, maybe we just ask someone to take
point (Alex is that person today), but make sure that a few people are
able to pull the trigger. If there are gatekeepers, they should be
able to anoint other gatekeepers.

We were borrowing a domain name from someone locally (for a user
group) here and he let it lapse, so for a week we were trying to call
that guy and begging him to renew. I'd hate to see that happen on a
global level.

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On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle:

 *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
 sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund
 without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is
 spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
 this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
 spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
 individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
 equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.

 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia

 On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote:
  yes - all done!  What's next on coworking.com?

  On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:

  Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good
  start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.

  Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
  Zombo.com off-list, yes?

  On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote:

  Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and
  try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're 
  about
  80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  
  http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too.
  peace,
  Chad

  On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:

  On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:

  We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather
  considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website
  tool.  It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it
  is robust!  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and
  build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!

  On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:

  Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
  CMS ;)

  Just teasing.

  Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as
  such. :)

  Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people
  have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress
  projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
  complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to
  explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
  WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional
  design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is
  about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes
  the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time
  consuming/expensive.)

  FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
  core+plugins but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a
  conference in Atlanta called The Business of WordPress to highlight how 
  to
  use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how 
  effective
  it is now.

  -Mike Schinkel
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Re: [Coworking] Tallahassee, FL Coworking

2010-02-22 Thread Ryan Price
Brenda, I was recently contacted by a woman from Tallahassee named  
Emily. If you don't know her, contact me off-list, as she is looking  
to open a space in your area. http://floridacreatives.com/blogs/ryanprice/2010/02/18/coworking-tallahassee-homebase


I don't know if this list is the absolute best place to gauge local  
interest - not many people from any one city are often here, at least  
not in Florida. I'm down in Orlando.


I'm planning a trip up to Tally soon - probably mid-March, and I'd  
love to connect.


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On Feb 19, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Brenda wrote:


Hi to all!  I am trying to find out if there is a market in
Tallahassee, FL for a coworking facility.  I am a commercial broker
and have a couple of sites in mind.  I've seen one request for
Tallahassee.  Are there others?  Thanks.

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Re: [Coworking] indycube - Wales' first coworking space opens on March 1st 2010

2010-02-22 Thread Araceli

Congrats and best wishes
THECUBE

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:



Hi everyone,

We're about to open the doors on the very first co-working space in
Wales, UK. We're a space focused on the media and creative sectors and
are holding our first jelly on March 1st (and its almost sold out
after just 24 hours!!). We've picked up a lot of interest 'under the
radar' and intend using the success of this jelly and future ones to
progress the space. Our 'official' launch will be on May 4th when our
membership schemes kick in. Up until then co-workers can try us out
for only £10 per day...

Feel free to keep an eye on us via @indycube and @cardiffjelly - and a
MASSIVE thanks to the great advice I've gleaned from this group.

Diolch yn fawr (Thanks very much, in Welsh!)

Mark Hooper
Founder, indycube

www.indycube.biz

PS - we've signed up to the Co-Working Visa Scheme, so anytime you are
in Sunny Cardiff :) we'd make sure there's a desk, and a mug of
freshly brewed coffee waiting for you!

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[Coworking] Coworking arrives in Sydney, Australia

2010-02-22 Thread and...@co-worka
Wow, we're nearly there. Its been a huge effort by lots of people over
here in Australia to open the first coworking space in Sydney called
CO-WORKA.
Big thank you to all those people out there who have given their time
and hard graft to get us to the point we're now at.

Crazy journey from driving enormous trucks though Sydney full of
furniture, to the day we turned on our AC to find it sounded like a
400 pneumatic drills. Don't ask!

We got through it though and are having our Launch Night Party on
Friday 5th March and we open our doors on the Monday.

Goodbye Hibernation, Hello Collaboration!!

Thanks

Andrew

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[Coworking] Setting up coworking space Oxford, UK

2010-02-22 Thread John - White October
Hello folks,

We have just moved offices and have more space than we need. Oxford
doesn't have any coworking space and we think there is a need for it.

However we don't know where to start. What are the legal requirements,
what about insurance...where to start?!

Any handy tips would be very useful.

Cheers
John Wards
White October
http://www.whiteoctober.co.uk
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[Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread rachel young
Hey all,

I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
broadcasting.

I've worked out of agencies that use Yammer, and I love the functionality,
but from what I understand all e-mail addresses need to be from within the
same domain, same with socialtext's signals. i'm looking for something we
can use for our members (who will each, obviously, have different e-mail
addresses) where we can announce smaller news (fresh pot of coffee now on
or free food in the kitchen or other more trivial info that isn't worthy
of an e-mail but can be announced without broadcasting out loud to the room
and interupting people's concentration)

we don't want this on twitter, and we don't want it by e-mail/google group.
a popup in the corner of my screen just like yammer would be ideal.

any suggestions? do any of you use something like this in your space?
r.


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Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread Markus Heurung
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:14 PM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote:
 I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
 broadcasting.


sounds like a status.net installation is what you are looking for. it's GPL.

bye,
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RE: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread Sheryl Landon
Yammer, maybe?  Or GroupTweet

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 I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
 broadcasting.





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Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread rachel young
both status.net and yammer require all participating e-mail addresses to be
from within the same domain, but grouptweet might work if there are no other
suggestions.

thanks!
r.



On 22 February 2010 15:34, Sheryl Landon she...@dotdigerati.com wrote:

 Yammer, maybe?  Or GroupTweet

 Sheryl Landon | dotDigerati, LLC | she...@dotdigerati.com | 206.686.8608 |
 www.dotdigerati.com

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 Subject: Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network
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 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:14 PM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca
 wrote:
  I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
  broadcasting.
 






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Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread Kim Slawson
I feel that this is a bit heavy-handed, technologically, for something like
this.  I would, as the office manager, in a low voice, simply say there's a
fresh pot of coffee on now. or we're closing up in 20 minutes or who's
coming back tomorrow morning?

Just my 2¢.  I understand other people have other levels of tolerance for
systems as an approach to things like this.  My like of systems seems to
wane as I grow older.

Regards,
Kim Slawson
mid|co: midcoast coworking

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:42 PM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote:



 both status.net and yammer require all participating e-mail addresses to
 be from within the same domain, but grouptweet might work if there are no
 other suggestions.

 thanks!
 r.




 On 22 February 2010 15:34, Sheryl Landon she...@dotdigerati.com wrote:

 Yammer, maybe?  Or GroupTweet

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 |
 www.dotdigerati.com

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 Subject: Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network
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  I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
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Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread Jacob Sayles
I just installed and am playing around with status.net and it doesn't
actually require all the users to have the same domain on the email address.
 This could be fun!

Jacob

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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:42 PM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.cawrote:



 both status.net and yammer require all participating e-mail addresses to
 be from within the same domain, but grouptweet might work if there are no
 other suggestions.

 thanks!
 r.




 On 22 February 2010 15:34, Sheryl Landon she...@dotdigerati.com wrote:

 Yammer, maybe?  Or GroupTweet

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 wrote:
  I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
  broadcasting.
 




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Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread rachel young
Oh? Maybe I misread it.  My apologies Markus!
r.



On 22 February 2010 16:06, Jacob Sayles jsay...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just installed and am playing around with status.net and it doesn't
 actually require all the users to have the same domain on the email address.
  This could be fun!

 Jacob

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 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:42 PM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.cawrote:



 both status.net and yammer require all participating e-mail addresses to
 be from within the same domain, but grouptweet might work if there are no
 other suggestions.

 thanks!
 r.




 On 22 February 2010 15:34, Sheryl Landon she...@dotdigerati.com wrote:

 Yammer, maybe?  Or GroupTweet

 Sheryl Landon | dotDigerati, LLC | she...@dotdigerati.com | 206.686.8608
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 www.dotdigerati.com

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 Subject: Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network
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  I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
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Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network broadcasting

2010-02-22 Thread Allen Fuller
The P2 theme for Wordpress could also serve the need to describe.

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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:42 PM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote:



 both status.net and yammer require all participating e-mail addresses to
 be from within the same domain, but grouptweet might work if there are no
 other suggestions.

 thanks!
 r.




 On 22 February 2010 15:34, Sheryl Landon she...@dotdigerati.com wrote:

 Yammer, maybe?  Or GroupTweet

 Sheryl Landon | dotDigerati, LLC | she...@dotdigerati.com | 206.686.8608
 |
 www.dotdigerati.com

 -Original Message-
 From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:cowork...@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Markus Heurung
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:23 PM
 To: coworking@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Coworking] internal microblogging/private network
 broadcasting

 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:14 PM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca
 wrote:
  I'm looking for a suggestion for internal microblogging/private network
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Re: [Coworking] Setting up coworking space Oxford, UK

2010-02-22 Thread Steven Heath
On 23 February 2010 03:03, John - White October johnwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello folks,

 We have just moved offices and have more space than we need. Oxford
 doesn't have any coworking space and we think there is a need for it.

 However we don't know where to start. What are the legal requirements,
 what about insurance...where to start?!

This type of thing is based on local laws. I would contact other
coworking locations in UK and ask about issues.

Most of the 'local' law issues for English speaking countries only
seems to be USA.

 Any handy tips would be very useful.

Out reach, out reach and then do some more for good measure.

Talk to who you think your community is about what they want etc.
However often what people say they want they never use. Try to avoid
'build it and they will come'. Each coworking space is different
either based on who set it up or the members or scores of other
reasons.

Get a core group involved and see what it takes to support them, both
facilities and cost. Then work out your membership rate from that.


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Re: [Coworking] Clarification

2010-02-22 Thread rachel young
Hi all,

On 16 February 2010 13:40, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote:


 I am volunteering to look into what an international co-op or association
 could be, and I'll report back pros and cons to the group in a few days. (or
 maybe by Mon, given what my weekend already looks like)
 r.


If you don't want to read all of this info, please scroll to the end to find
a link to a very simple survey.

There has been both support in favour of and warnings against forming some
sort of organisation. So, as promised, here is a high level comparison of
the different types of formal organisations we *could* form - this info is
not to sway your opinion for or against such an organisation, but merely to
help inform you of some options. Since there is money involved (now with the
acquisition of coworking.com, and potentially in future for conferences or
even other currently unknown opportunities similar to the domain
acquisition) I do recommend that if we decide we want some sort of
organisation then it should be a formal legal entity. In keeping with the
wish that this not be to any one person's benefit, the only two real options
would be a co-op or a non-profit.

*Co-operative*
A co-op is an autonomous association of persons (or companies with one
representative) united voluntarily to meet their common economic, social,
and cultural needs and aspirations through a jointly-owned and
democratically-controlled enterprise which is incorporated.

PROS

   - one share, one vote
   - all members are owners, all members share in the profits through
   dividends

CONS

   - a fair amount of red tape for the initial set up and distribution of
   dividends
   - all members essentially run the company, unless staff are hired (many
   of us run our own company in addition to running the business of our
   coworking spaces, so this would be a third company)
   - it is grammatically correct to include a hyphen in co-op or
   co-operative and aesthetically that would look weird with coworking
   (this is not a real point either way, just inserting some rib-jabbing levity
   in between corporate mumbo jumbo)

*Non-profit Corporation *
Forming a nonprofit corporation is much like creating a regular corporation,
except that nonprofits have to take the extra steps of applying for
tax-exempt status. Also called a 501(c)(3) in the USA.

PROS

   - tax exemption(s)
   - greater qualification for grants
   - business activities cannot result in personal benefit for any director,
   officer, or member, which helps in keeping this community as great as it is

CONS

   - cannot participate in political lobbying (influencing legislation) as a
   substantial part of its total activities (if ever we want to band together
   to show support in affecting legislation in any country)
   - there may be some restrictions on the use of assets to purposes
   justifying tax exemption


Does anyone know of another form of legal organisational entity that would
be a possible fit for our community?

Basically, from what I could find, it would take forming an organisation in
one country and then crafting the bylaws to include international members.

All forms would essentially be governance, meaning that there would be one
body to make decisions for the betterment of all members or interested
parties, whether that body is composed of one representative from each
coworking space for a co-op or a smaller board of representatives for a
non-profit organisation. Either way, the structure would include variations
of these steps:

   1. Choose a Business Name
   2. Prepare and File Articles of Incorporation
   3. Apply for Applicable Tax Exemption(s)
   4. Draft Corporate Bylaws
   5. Appoint Directors
   6. Hold a Directors' Meeting (attendees can be virtual in most cases)
   7. Obtain Applicable Licenses and Permits

*
Survey*
And with that, I think it is time for a straightforward
surveyhttp://bit.ly/928jRPon international governance. It's time to
collect brief answers to decide if
we move forward, and then if yes then how to move forward. The survey is
anonymous, but please decide amongst yourselves in your coworking space and
answer as one collective body for your space. This is the only way I can see
it being fair so that multiple people from one space don't stack the votes
for their own benefit, but is completely replying on the honour system.
Survey results will be public but I'll also summarise them in a week or so.

Here's hoping this is helpful.
r.

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Re: [Coworking] Setting up coworking space Oxford, UK

2010-02-22 Thread Lloyd Davis
Hi John.  You should talk to Rosie Sherry at the Werks in Lewes. Full Stop.
@rosiesherry on twitter

In terms of local community, you might get some help from Donna Suffling at
1000heads - donna.suffl...@1000heads.com she and her colleagues run the
Oxford Tuttle meetup ; http://oxfordsocialmediacafe.pbworks.com and will be
very well connected.

Good luck with it all

ll

On  22 February 2010 14:03, John - White October johnwa...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello folks,

 We have just moved offices and have more space than we need. Oxford
 doesn't have any coworking space and we think there is a need for it.

 However we don't know where to start. What are the legal requirements,
 what about insurance...where to start?!

 Any handy tips would be very useful.

 Cheers
 John Wards
 White October
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Re: [Coworking] Clarification

2010-02-22 Thread Mike Schinkel
Hi Rachel,

This is great stuff, really!  Thanks for all the effort.

One point of note on your non-profit con about political lobbying, at least 
in the USA, if an organization elects 501(h) instead of 501(c)(3) then they can 
lobby. Generally, organizations that make the 501(h) election under the 1976 
lobbying law may spend 20% of the first $500,000 of their annual expenditures 
on lobbying ($100,000), 15% of the next $500,000, and so on, up to $1 million 
dollars.

http://www.muridae.com/nporegulation/lobbying.html#lobbying_who_may
http://www.asaecenter.com/PublicationsResources/whitepaperdetail.cfm?ItemNumber=12202

-Mike Schinkel
Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
http://ignitionalley.com

P.S. I've recently looked into this issue for another non-profit I'm setting 
up. :)


On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:47 PM, rachel young wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 On 16 February 2010 13:40, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote:
 
 I am volunteering to look into what an international co-op or association 
 could be, and I'll report back pros and cons to the group in a few days. (or 
 maybe by Mon, given what my weekend already looks like)
 r.
 
 
 If you don't want to read all of this info, please scroll to the end to find 
 a link to a very simple survey.
 
 There has been both support in favour of and warnings against forming some 
 sort of organisation. So, as promised, here is a high level comparison of the 
 different types of formal organisations we could form - this info is not to 
 sway your opinion for or against such an organisation, but merely to help 
 inform you of some options. Since there is money involved (now with the 
 acquisition of coworking.com, and potentially in future for conferences or 
 even other currently unknown opportunities similar to the domain acquisition) 
 I do recommend that if we decide we want some sort of organisation then it 
 should be a formal legal entity. In keeping with the wish that this not be to 
 any one person's benefit, the only two real options would be a co-op or a 
 non-profit.
 
 Co-operative
 A co-op is an autonomous association of persons (or companies with one 
 representative) united voluntarily to meet their common economic, social, and 
 cultural needs and aspirations through a jointly-owned and 
 democratically-controlled enterprise which is incorporated.
 
 PROS
 one share, one vote
 all members are owners, all members share in the profits through dividends
 CONS
 a fair amount of red tape for the initial set up and distribution of dividends
 all members essentially run the company, unless staff are hired (many of us 
 run our own company in addition to running the business of our coworking 
 spaces, so this would be a third company)
 it is grammatically correct to include a hyphen in co-op or co-operative 
 and aesthetically that would look weird with coworking  (this is not a real 
 point either way, just inserting some rib-jabbing levity in between corporate 
 mumbo jumbo)
 Non-profit Corporation 
 Forming a nonprofit corporation is much like creating a regular corporation, 
 except that nonprofits have to take the extra steps of applying for 
 tax-exempt status. Also called a 501(c)(3) in the USA. 
 
 PROS
 tax exemption(s)
 greater qualification for grants
 business activities cannot result in personal benefit for any director, 
 officer, or member, which helps in keeping this community as great as it is
 CONS
 cannot participate in political lobbying (influencing legislation) as a 
 substantial part of its total activities (if ever we want to band together to 
 show support in affecting legislation in any country)
 there may be some restrictions on the use of assets to purposes justifying 
 tax exemption
 
 Does anyone know of another form of legal organisational entity that would be 
 a possible fit for our community?
 
 Basically, from what I could find, it would take forming an organisation in 
 one country and then crafting the bylaws to include international members.
 
 All forms would essentially be governance, meaning that there would be one 
 body to make decisions for the betterment of all members or interested 
 parties, whether that body is composed of one representative from each 
 coworking space for a co-op or a smaller board of representatives for a 
 non-profit organisation. Either way, the structure would include variations 
 of these steps:
 Choose a Business Name
 Prepare and File Articles of Incorporation
 Apply for Applicable Tax Exemption(s)
 Draft Corporate Bylaws
 Appoint Directors
 Hold a Directors' Meeting (attendees can be virtual in most cases)
 Obtain Applicable Licenses and Permits
 
 Survey
 And with that, I think it is time for a straightforward survey on 
 international governance. It's time to collect brief answers to decide if we 
 move forward, and then if yes then how to move forward. The survey is 
 anonymous, but please decide amongst yourselves in your coworking space and 
 answer as one collective body for your