Re: [Coworking] Re: History of Coworking

2013-09-11 Thread Sean Qian
Hi everyone,

I read this the other day.

http://www.deskmag.com/en/the-history-of-coworking-spaces-in-a-timeline

Looks like deskmag did go ahead and make a timeline.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:53:50 AM UTC+10, ruyoung wrote:


 Since we can't make a graphic timeline, and that might be unnecessary 
 anyway, I put up a simple table at 
 http://wiki.coworking.com/w/page/68852527/History%20of%20Coworking%20-%20a%20timeline

 It generously lifts text from Craig's blog post, Deskmag's Sep 2 article 
 about the history of coworking, and some other places around the internet 
 that I can't remember.

 It needs some work, including the launch of coworking books (Angel? 
 Tony?), when the coworking blog launched and ceased, the dates of when some 
 other collectives formed, when Deskmag started, etc,, but it's a fluid 
 starting point. Please add significant dates to it (not the date your space 
 opened, unless you started something truly unique like Cubes  Crayons).
 r.


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 On 8 July 2013 16:53, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking 
 bau...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 I selected a few highlights since 2005 on the post that Rachel mentioned. 
 I wanted to look at it from a slightly different angle of the business 
 aspect of coworking versus the larger movement. It was difficult to 
 highlight it down but I think a larger more comprehensive list would be 
 great to work on.

 http://densitycoworking.com/a-brief-history-of-coworking/

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Re: [Coworking] CoWorking Association?

2013-09-11 Thread Sabrina
Hi Jeannine,
Love your reference to the ACOE solution - We had them as a client for 
years and I never heard that! Spot on. And for what it's worth, I'm another 
one with a foot in two places (US/UK).
Sabrina

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:39:35 PM UTC+1, Jeannine wrote:

 I pm ET is 7 PM CET and my kid will be playing in the final round in a 
 footie tournament so I will be watching that. 

 Which brings me to the first question which I would like to raise on this: 
  Are there International ambitions or is this a US thingie?

 I realize this opens me to the Army Corps of Engineers Solution*  and am 
 prepared to deal with that, but I did want to know as the one with the foot 
 on two continents.  :-)

 Jeannine

 * *For the unaware, the ACoE Solution is:  whomever first raises a 
 question about the execution is immediately appointed head of solving the 
 described problem and given zero resources to do so.  You would be amazed 
 at how much innovation this policy produces.  Also how much consensus.  :-)
 *

 On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:41:13 PM UTC+2, Jerome wrote:

 Hi all.  I wanted to remind you of our webinar for COSHARE this Thur 
 9/12, 10am PT / 1pm ET.
 You can sign up here: http://www.coshare.co/connect/


 Jerome
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 work FOR yourself, not BY yourself

 www.blankspaces.com
 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
 323.330.9505 (office) 

 On Sep 6, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Jacob Sayles jsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 *
 Ready to revisit the discussion about a coworking association? 
 We’ve certainly spent a lot of time discussing the possibilities and the 
 millions of ways this could work out.  Well, here is another one!  



 A group of us, including Liz, Bill, Iris, Jerome, Benjamin, Jenny, Craig, 
 Tony and I, have been digging into this a bit more and came up with what we 
 call CoShare with the tagline Share space, Share Ideas.  Our goal is to 
 support education, advocacy, and community by backing organizations like 
 Open Coworking, infrastructure like the wiki, and the google group, and 
 events like GCUC.  Of course, as we all know, what gets created depends on 
 who shows up and the real work starts now.  Everyone is invited.

 We’re launched the website this week and we are inviting everyone into 
 the discussion.  We’ll be hosting a webinar on the 12th to give a broad 
 overview of CoShare and to offer up a QA.  It’s still early days for all 
 of this and we have a lot of work to do to build something long lasting. 
  Please come to the table with all your hopes, dreams, questions, ideas and 
 concerns, and let’s build this together.

 http://coshare.co*

 Jacob

 On Friday, February 25, 2011 11:19:05 PM UTC-8, mark gilbreath wrote:

 Mark
 I believe a number of us have had these discussions.  I spoke to our 
 representative from Trinet (a PEO).  He reiterated what others had shared 
 which is that in order to qualify for a shared insurance plan, the 
 individuals covered would need to all be employees of the same 
 organization.  This doesn't mean that there is no option... Just that some 
 creativity will be required

 Mark 

 Liquidspace

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Mark in Iowa City mno...@iowacityarea.com 
 wrote:

  Was reading some threads on insurance, etc.  Has anyone actively
  pursued trying to start an association for coworkers such that we have
  a collective voice and could potentially ascertain if a group
  insurance pool could be made available to coworkers across the US?
  
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[Coworking] Update: Great panel discussion last night! :-)

2013-09-11 Thread Robert Petrusz
HI all, 

Three cheers for TEW panel moderator, Keeva Kase, who discovered our 
discussion on the google coworking group and worked hard to track me down 
and invite me and the Katie from Mercury Studio and Vinci from the Perch. 

It was last minute, so Vinci couldn't make it, but Katie and I did and I 
got to sit on the panel. I think it was a good panel discussion. 
And it was very encouraging to see interaction among the different spaces 
in the area in a way that I have seen in other cities but has been sorely 
lacking in the triangle. 

I hope its a good omen. :-)

Big thanks to Keeva Kase of Bull City Forward for making this happen! 

Robert 


On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:56:36 AM UTC-4, keeva kase wrote:

 I'm waiting to hear back from Robert, but I've gained permission from the 
 event organizers to invite him and others to rep coworking. I invite a 
 total of theee. I did not arrange the attendees, but am glad to have caught 
 this oversight. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:10 AM, rachel young 
 rac...@camaraderie.cajavascript: 
 wrote:


 Keeva,

 If you don't mind replying to this group, I'm certainly interested in 
 reading your response, and others here may as well.
 r.


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 *See details at http://bit.ly/MovingToRoncy.*

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 On 9 September 2013 20:48, keeva kase keev...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

 Robert,

 Thank you for this post and all the insight that followed from others. I 
 am the facilitator of this panel and you can expect an email from me in 2 
 minutes. 

 Keeva


 On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:54:36 PM UTC-4, Robert Petrusz wrote:

 http://www.businessweek.com/**articles/2013-03-14/waiting-**
 for-the-accelerator-bubble-to-**pophttp://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-14/waiting-for-the-accelerator-bubble-to-pop

 At the upcoming Triangle Entrepreneurship Week  there is a panel 
 presentation on Co-working in the Triangle. The panelists are all 
 accelerators or incubators. None of the local coworking spaces are invited 
 to participate. 

 Here is something I apparently worry about more than other coworking 
 space owners: last I heard there were almost 700 incubators in America. 
 Incubators are now not so cool anymore, so lots of folks seem to be 
 switching to an acclerator model. Its not clear that they will do any 
 better than incubators that failed. 

 Is anyone else worried that SEVEN HUNDRED incubators  accelerators in 
 america could suddenly decide that they need to become coworking spaces?! 
 There are also about 700 coworking spaces in america. Imagine a world where 
 every single coworking space was suddenly competing with an 
 incubator/accelerator that was funded by the local city/chamber of 
 commerce/university/VC community. 

 These new entrants can cause lots of trouble, especially in small 
 markets where they can outspend a small coworking space by a factor of 10, 
 easily. 

 Anyone else pondering these types of issues? 

 Robert 
 Bull City Coworking

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Re: [Coworking] CoWorking Association?

2013-09-11 Thread Jeannine
Hi, Sabrina,

My dad was an engineer in the ACoE, he assures me that both the rule and 
the result are accurate.  

Maybe we should start an association of folks with a foot on two 
continents.  We can call it Intercontinental Coworkiing Colossi or 
something.  Our motto:  Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!:-)

For the logo alone it might be worth doing.   

Oh dear, better quit while I am ahead.

Cheers,

Jeannine

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:37:00 AM UTC+2, Sabrina wrote:

 Hi Jeannine,
 Love your reference to the ACOE solution - We had them as a client for 
 years and I never heard that! Spot on. And for what it's worth, I'm another 
 one with a foot in two places (US/UK).
 Sabrina

 On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:39:35 PM UTC+1, Jeannine wrote:

 I pm ET is 7 PM CET and my kid will be playing in the final round in a 
 footie tournament so I will be watching that. 

 Which brings me to the first question which I would like to raise on 
 this:  Are there International ambitions or is this a US thingie?

 I realize this opens me to the Army Corps of Engineers Solution*  and am 
 prepared to deal with that, but I did want to know as the one with the foot 
 on two continents.  :-)

 Jeannine

 * *For the unaware, the ACoE Solution is:  whomever first raises a 
 question about the execution is immediately appointed head of solving the 
 described problem and given zero resources to do so.  You would be amazed 
 at how much innovation this policy produces.  Also how much consensus.  :-)
 *

 On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:41:13 PM UTC+2, Jerome wrote:

 Hi all.  I wanted to remind you of our webinar for COSHARE this Thur 
 9/12, 10am PT / 1pm ET.
 You can sign up here: http://www.coshare.co/connect/


 Jerome
 __
 BLANKSPACES
 work FOR yourself, not BY yourself

 www.blankspaces.com
 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
 323.330.9505 (office) 

 On Sep 6, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Jacob Sayles jsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 *
 Ready to revisit the discussion about a coworking association? 
 We’ve certainly spent a lot of time discussing the possibilities and the 
 millions of ways this could work out.  Well, here is another one!  



 A group of us, including Liz, Bill, Iris, Jerome, Benjamin, Jenny, 
 Craig, Tony and I, have been digging into this a bit more and came up with 
 what we call CoShare with the tagline Share space, Share Ideas.  Our goal 
 is to support education, advocacy, and community by backing organizations 
 like Open Coworking, infrastructure like the wiki, and the google group, 
 and events like GCUC.  Of course, as we all know, what gets created depends 
 on who shows up and the real work starts now.  Everyone is invited.

 We’re launched the website this week and we are inviting everyone into 
 the discussion.  We’ll be hosting a webinar on the 12th to give a broad 
 overview of CoShare and to offer up a QA.  It’s still early days for all 
 of this and we have a lot of work to do to build something long lasting. 
  Please come to the table with all your hopes, dreams, questions, ideas and 
 concerns, and let’s build this together.

 http://coshare.co*

 Jacob

 On Friday, February 25, 2011 11:19:05 PM UTC-8, mark gilbreath wrote:

 Mark
 I believe a number of us have had these discussions.  I spoke to our 
 representative from Trinet (a PEO).  He reiterated what others had shared 
 which is that in order to qualify for a shared insurance plan, the 
 individuals covered would need to all be employees of the same 
 organization.  This doesn't mean that there is no option... Just that some 
 creativity will be required

 Mark 

 Liquidspace

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Mark in Iowa City mno...@iowacityarea.com 
 wrote:

  Was reading some threads on insurance, etc.  Has anyone actively
  pursued trying to start an association for coworkers such that we have
  a collective voice and could potentially ascertain if a group
  insurance pool could be made available to coworkers across the US?
  
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Re: [Coworking] Incubators, Accelerators: threat to small coworking spaces?

2013-09-11 Thread Daniel T

On Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:38:52 AM UTC-4, ruyoung wrote:

 That said, many incubators and accelerators are VC funded, and if their 
 model simply isn't working, then they are more likely to pay out the lease 
 or negotiate an early end and close their doors rather than waste money to 
 change models to a different industry. That's a business decision, not a 
 community decision.


 I would have to agree with Rachel that the current rush of VC funding for 
 accelerators is fueled by the dream of getting in on the ground floor of 
 the next Google or Facebook, and they will soon realize that the ROI isn't 
 there. Winning that game would require not hundreds of accelerators but 
 thousands. What is being sold as an invetment will soon start to look like 
 a charity project.

 

 Our big concern shouldn't be that they will take over, but that real 
 coworking might pick up some of their failure stink when they go down. As 
 such I'm thinking that coworking should not try to compete, but distance 
 itself from accelerators and incubators and establish themselves as a more 
 sustainable business model with an actual future. 


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[Coworking] 2013 State of Independence Report Released

2013-09-11 Thread Steve King
The 2013 MBO Partners State of Independence report was released this week. 
 It has a lot of information and data on freelancers, the self-employed, 
etc.  The landing page for the report is 
herehttp://www.mbopartners.com/state-of-independence/independent-workforce-index.html
. 

For those interested in the Spark Notes version, The Wall Street Journalhas a 
nice summary 
herehttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324094704579067400138863622.html
.

We're a bit backed up right now, but in a couple of weeks we'll have time 
to sift through the data and provide more detail on what we think it means 
for coworking.

Thanks,  

Steve


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[Coworking] Re: New Technology From PayPal Could Facilitate AutoPayments for Coworkers

2013-09-11 Thread Frank DePalma
A surprising number of our members are anti-PayPal, so if you must have a 
PayPal account to do the check-in, then this would not work for us. 

We use the pfSense/Nexudus api for wifi check-in, although I'll bet the 
paypal system will be easier to setup. We do have a generic payment page (
http://www.ptcolab.com/payments) that allows people to setup monthly 
payments, and make one-time payments. So, for now, we have a system that 
works, but I do see how this new PayPal service could become a viable 
option after they've worked through some of the inevitable issues.

~ Frank

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[Coworking] Re: New Technology From PayPal Could Facilitate AutoPayments for Coworkers

2013-09-11 Thread Cristina Santamarina
This is more or less what we achieve with Cobot http://cobot.me with the 
wi-fi integration and the automated payments - automated check-in and easy 
to confirm check-out and payment.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:30:07 AM UTC+2, oren.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw this article and immediately thought of the opportunity for 
 coworking spaces.

 How would y'all integrate this into your spaces (if at all)?


 http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/09/paypal-debuts-its-newest-hardware-beacon-a-bluetooth-le-enabled-device-for-hands-free-check-ins-and-payments/


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[Coworking] Skill Product Sharing in Coworking Spaces: Device Lab (Columbus, Ohio)

2013-09-11 Thread Felix Schürholz


This is what coworking is about: Sharing skills, but also sharing tools and 
products. One example we like to draw your attention to today is the Device 
Lab http://saltmines.us/devicelab/ in Columbus, Ohio. The idea: “Now, 
there are dozens of Internet enabled devices and a multitude of browsers 
that people may use to experience your application, design or web site. 
It’s impossible to own them all, so that’s why we built the Device Lab. … 
The goal is to have a centralized place where designers and developers can 
come to test their work out on a wide range of devices and platforms, 
*absolutely 
free* .”

We love the idea, as we love free coworking and sharing for free. That is 
why we are restarting and enlarging the focus of the Skill Sharing Tool by 
also being able to list and request products to share. Here you can 
inputhttp://bit.ly/yBk4nf and 
here you find the output http://bit.ly/SkillSharingOutput.

Please spread the word for this new tool and projects like the Device Lab 
in Columbus, Ohio.

Greetings,
Felix Schürholz
www.free-coworking.org

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Re: [Coworking] 2013 State of Independence Report Released

2013-09-11 Thread Alex Hillman
For those of you unfamiliar with this report, it is THE most valuable data set 
we have at our disposal as an industry - and it's totally free. 


  


Don't skip reading the full report. It's packed with insights about the 
people most likely to get value from coworking. 


  


Thanks for sharing, Steve. Looking forward to your redux as always!


  


-Alex


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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Steve King sk...@emergentresearch.com
wrote:

 The 2013 MBO Partners State of Independence report was released this week. 
  It has a lot of information and data on freelancers, the self-employed, 
 etc.  The landing page for the report is 
 herehttp://www.mbopartners.com/state-of-independence/independent-workforce-index.html
 . 
 For those interested in the Spark Notes version, The Wall Street Journalhas a 
 nice summary 
 herehttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324094704579067400138863622.html
 .
 We're a bit backed up right now, but in a couple of weeks we'll have time 
 to sift through the data and provide more detail on what we think it means 
 for coworking.
 Thanks,  
 Steve
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