RE: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Yep @Adrienne N... Me too! Kat Jaramillo, Space Owner & Catalyst CoBiz Coworking Space "Work with Friends" 702.527.7551 -Original Message- From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adrienne N Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:09 AM To: coworking@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design I'm interested in seeing how this group responds next time anyone from Liquidspace or loosecubes or turnstone chimes in. Certainly you all don't believe that their involvement here isn't to promote their product or service? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/sOUdnT-yr3gJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
I'm interested in seeing how this group responds next time anyone from Liquidspace or loosecubes or turnstone chimes in. Certainly you all don't believe that their involvement here isn't to promote their product or service? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/sOUdnT-yr3gJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Hey all not trying to go to war with our dangerously awesome Alexjust saying what is good for some ought to be good for everyone. Definitions of spam are not necessary. Pitching a product to sell to coworking space founders in this forum is just that...whether sneaky or blatant. Asking for forgivness rather then permission is not responsible. This isn't the first time. I remember when your webinar was $350 WOW! Your invitation to the MasterClass is already out. Hope you have a blow out event! The poor guy asking about space design who got his head bitten off simply shed the light on the double standard in this forum. Kat On Sep 16, 2012 6:18 PM, "Liu Yan" wrote: > > Alex, you have my full mental support across the ocean (and the continent)... > > Liu Yan > > > On 2012-9-17, at 上午4:46, Alex Hillman wrote: > >> Kat, >> >> I'm not leaving this group behind as a contributor or a leader, I'll always be here to help in every way that I can. That's my #1 priority. >> >> The course is a supplement for people who want more. Trust me that there's no hidden agenda here, it's that simple. >> >> Like many others on this list, I absolutely love helping people, and will give until my face falls off in a public forum that benefits more than just the one person who's asking. >> >> What's changed over the years of giving advice is that a lot of people have started seeking one-on-one advice. As often as possible, I've given that away for free as well. But a few things have happened: >> Not everybody is at the same level coming in. Some people need a LOT more guidance beyond "advice", into the realm of consulting. >> Many people ignore free advice. >> I repeat myself a lot. A LOT. >> The reason for the price of the course is because it's a TON of hours of hands on work with the individuals who enroll, and there are now hundreds of hours that have gone into building a teaching tool. Even ignoring the time that it took to build the course, the total hands on time from me over the four weeks is being sold at a fraction of my consulting rate. >> >> All of that said, I'm not leaving anybody behind now that I've built this course, or suggesting that you can't kick ass without taking it. MANY people were already kicking ass well before the beginning of September. >> >> But many aren't, and if they want the extra help on a fast-track, I can provide an option that's sustainable and productive for them AND for me. Win win. If someone takes the class and feels like they didn't get their money's worth, I've screwed up somewhere else. >> >> Everyone still has to choose the option for themselves, there's no way that I will try to force people to buy something they don't need. >> >> The most likely outcome of me having this course is that I'll have MORE advice that I can openly share on this list because I now have a great framework for creating new, better answers to questions and problems about coworking & community building. >> >> BOTTOM LINE: >> This list is for SHARING OPENLY and learning from each other, that's always been my personal priority, and that's not going away. >> >> I made a mistake by sending direct sales emails to a list where I should have known better, and thanks to some friendly reminders, I won't be doing that any more and I'm genuinely sorry for my mis-step. >> >> None of the good stuff is going away, it's only getting better. >> >> -Alex >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> /ah >> indyhall.org >> coworking in philadelphia >> build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org >> >> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kat CoBiz Coworking Vegas wrote: >>> >>> OMG! Seriously guyslet me give you a different outlook on this. We in the coworking world are looking for serious support, trying to get our message out, keep our doors open and build community. >>> >>> This kind of "you don't get to" conversation doesn't serve any of us. We look to you for leadership ALEX and we have given you that role and yet your $1,200 plus class seems untouchable to some of us needing real support today! "Masters rule and start-ups drool"! High School and I call B.S! >>> >>> Might I suggest to those who really want to support owners and catalysts, GET in contribution as that is what coworking is about...none of us should have to be subjected to this. It's time to Collaborate, Sustain this community, Have ACCESSIBILITY to information, Build this community and BE OPEN to supporting others! Most in this group understand this! If you don'tand/or you have a hidden agenda or decided you can monetize your experience at our expense, please terminate your membership to this group and seek life elsewhere... we are in the trenches and are not interested in being SOLD ANYTHING! >>> >>> Happy Sunday... Thanks for letting me share! >>> >>> Kat, Passionate Space Owner >>> CoBiz Coworking Space ~ Las Vegas >>> >>> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:50:08 AM UTC-7, Alex Hillman wrote: This is a good time to bring up tha
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Thanks gang, means a lot to me :) - -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Liu Yan wrote: > Alex, you have my full mental support across the ocean (and the continent)... > > Liu Yan > > > On 2012-9-17, at 上午4:46, Alex Hillman wrote: > > Kat, > > > > I'm not leaving this group behind as a contributor or a leader, I'll always > > be here to help in every way that I can. That's my #1 priority. > > > > The course is a supplement for people who want more. Trust me that there's > > no hidden agenda here, it's that simple. > > > > Like many others on this list, I absolutely love helping people, and will > > give until my face falls off in a public forum that benefits more than just > > the one person who's asking. > > > > What's changed over the years of giving advice is that a lot of people have > > started seeking one-on-one advice. As often as possible, I've given that > > away for free as well. But a few things have happened: > > Not everybody is at the same level coming in. Some people need a LOT more > > guidance beyond "advice", into the realm of consulting. > > Many people ignore free advice. > > I repeat myself a lot. A LOT. > > > > The reason for the price of the course is because it's a TON of hours of > > hands on work with the individuals who enroll, and there are now hundreds > > of hours that have gone into building a teaching tool. Even ignoring the > > time that it took to build the course, the total hands on time from me over > > the four weeks is being sold at a fraction of my consulting rate. > > > > All of that said, I'm not leaving anybody behind now that I've built this > > course, or suggesting that you can't kick ass without taking it. MANY > > people were already kicking ass well before the beginning of September. > > > > But many aren't, and if they want the extra help on a fast-track, I can > > provide an option that's sustainable and productive for them AND for me. > > Win win. If someone takes the class and feels like they didn't get their > > money's worth, I've screwed up somewhere else. > > > > Everyone still has to choose the option for themselves, there's no way that > > I will try to force people to buy something they don't need. > > > > The most likely outcome of me having this course is that I'll have MORE > > advice that I can openly share on this list because I now have a great > > framework for creating new, better answers to questions and problems about > > coworking & community building. > > > > BOTTOM LINE: > > This list is for SHARING OPENLY and learning from each other, that's always > > been my personal priority, and that's not going away. > > > > I made a mistake by sending direct sales emails to a list where I should > > have known better, and thanks to some friendly reminders, I won't be doing > > that any more and I'm genuinely sorry for my mis-step. > > > > None of the good stuff is going away, it's only getting better. > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > /ah > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org) > > coworking in philadelphia > > build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > > (http://masterclass.indyhall.org) > > > > > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kat CoBiz Coworking Vegas wrote: > > > > > OMG! Seriously guyslet me give you a different outlook on this. We > > > in the coworking world are looking for serious support, trying to get our > > > message out, keep our doors open and build community. > > > > > > This kind of "you don't get to" conversation doesn't serve any of us. We > > > look to you for leadership ALEX and we have given you that role and yet > > > your $1,200 plus class seems untouchable to some of us needing real > > > support today! "Masters rule and start-ups drool"! High School and I > > > call B.S! > > > > > > Might I suggest to those who really want to support owners and catalysts, > > > GET in contribution as that is what coworking is about...none of us > > > should have to be subjected to this. It's time to Collaborate, Sustain > > > this community, Have ACCESSIBILITY to information, Build this community > > > and BE OPEN to supporting others! Most in this group understand this! If > > > you don'tand/or you have a hidden agenda or decided you can monetize > > > your experience at our expense, please terminate your membership to this > > > group and seek life elsewhere... we are in the trenches and are not > > > interested in being SOLD ANYTHING! > > > > > > Happy Sunday... Thanks for letting me share! > > > > > > Kat, Passionate Space Owner > > > CoBiz Coworking Space ~ Las Vegas > > > > > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:50:08 AM UTC-7, Alex Hillman wrote: > > > > This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass > > > > sales announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by exa
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Alex, you have my full mental support across the ocean (and the continent)... Liu Yan On 2012-9-17, at 上午4:46, Alex Hillman wrote: > Kat, > > I'm not leaving this group behind as a contributor or a leader, I'll always > be here to help in every way that I can. That's my #1 priority. > > The course is a supplement for people who want more. Trust me that there's no > hidden agenda here, it's that simple. > > Like many others on this list, I absolutely love helping people, and will > give until my face falls off in a public forum that benefits more than just > the one person who's asking. > > What's changed over the years of giving advice is that a lot of people have > started seeking one-on-one advice. As often as possible, I've given that away > for free as well. But a few things have happened: > Not everybody is at the same level coming in. Some people need a LOT more > guidance beyond "advice", into the realm of consulting. > Many people ignore free advice. > I repeat myself a lot. A LOT. > The reason for the price of the course is because it's a TON of hours of > hands on work with the individuals who enroll, and there are now hundreds of > hours that have gone into building a teaching tool. Even ignoring the time > that it took to build the course, the total hands on time from me over the > four weeks is being sold at a fraction of my consulting rate. > > All of that said, I'm not leaving anybody behind now that I've built this > course, or suggesting that you can't kick ass without taking it. MANY people > were already kicking ass well before the beginning of September. > > But many aren't, and if they want the extra help on a fast-track, I can > provide an option that's sustainable and productive for them AND for me. Win > win. If someone takes the class and feels like they didn't get their money's > worth, I've screwed up somewhere else. > > Everyone still has to choose the option for themselves, there's no way that I > will try to force people to buy something they don't need. > > The most likely outcome of me having this course is that I'll have MORE > advice that I can openly share on this list because I now have a great > framework for creating new, better answers to questions and problems about > coworking & community building. > > BOTTOM LINE: > This list is for SHARING OPENLY and learning from each other, that's always > been my personal priority, and that's not going away. > > I made a mistake by sending direct sales emails to a list where I should have > known better, and thanks to some friendly reminders, I won't be doing that > any more and I'm genuinely sorry for my mis-step. > > None of the good stuff is going away, it's only getting better. > > -Alex > > > > > > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kat CoBiz Coworking Vegas wrote: > >> OMG! Seriously guyslet me give you a different outlook on this. We in >> the coworking world are looking for serious support, trying to get our >> message out, keep our doors open and build community. >> >> This kind of "you don't get to" conversation doesn't serve any of us. We >> look to you for leadership ALEX and we have given you that role and yet your >> $1,200 plus class seems untouchable to some of us needing real support >> today! "Masters rule and start-ups drool"! High School and I call B.S! >> >> Might I suggest to those who really want to support owners and catalysts, >> GET in contribution as that is what coworking is about...none of us should >> have to be subjected to this. It's time to Collaborate, Sustain this >> community, Have ACCESSIBILITY to information, Build this community and BE >> OPEN to supporting others! Most in this group understand this! If you >> don'tand/or you have a hidden agenda or decided you can monetize your >> experience at our expense, please terminate your membership to this group >> and seek life elsewhere... we are in the trenches and are not interested in >> being SOLD ANYTHING! >> >> Happy Sunday... Thanks for letting me share! >> >> Kat, Passionate Space Owner >> CoBiz Coworking Space ~ Las Vegas >> >> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:50:08 AM UTC-7, Alex Hillman wrote: >>> >>> This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass >>> sales announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by example", and >>> as a result you won't be seeing me post that kind of thing to the list >>> anymore. >>> >>> A longer note about that is coming soon - in the mean time, to anybody >>> reading, I'm sorry. >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> >>> -- >>> /ah >>> indyhall.org >>> coworking in philadelphia >>> build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org >>> >>> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adrienne N wrote: >>> Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Both your previous email, Alex (eating a bit of humble pie) and this one are testaments to your gift of giving. I can attest to the gleaning we've done from the community over the last 2 years and yes, even pestered Alex one on one. We all owe Alex and those others who have blazed a red hot trail for us to follow, yet have not left us in the dust. Thanks Alex and other coworking mentor/leaders for continuing to reach back and pull us up the mountain. It's the same heart and mind that I have, even in our first year, been able to share ideas, strategies, etc with up and coming spaces. One is opening next month in Stratford, Ont. They have been able to see the Ontario coworking spaces come around them with support and wisdom. The "business" of coworking can sometimes get the spotlight, but what's truly amazing about this group is the dedication to the values. It's really a reflection of how we should live our lives. Doing life together. Now that's something worth getting up for! Peace, Chad Chad Ballantyne 705.812.0689 c...@thecreativespace.ca On 2012-09-16, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hillman wrote: > Kat, > > I'm not leaving this group behind as a contributor or a leader, I'll always > be here to help in every way that I can. That's my #1 priority. > > The course is a supplement for people who want more. Trust me that there's no > hidden agenda here, it's that simple. > > Like many others on this list, I absolutely love helping people, and will > give until my face falls off in a public forum that benefits more than just > the one person who's asking. > > What's changed over the years of giving advice is that a lot of people have > started seeking one-on-one advice. As often as possible, I've given that away > for free as well. But a few things have happened: > Not everybody is at the same level coming in. Some people need a LOT more > guidance beyond "advice", into the realm of consulting. > Many people ignore free advice. > I repeat myself a lot. A LOT. > The reason for the price of the course is because it's a TON of hours of > hands on work with the individuals who enroll, and there are now hundreds of > hours that have gone into building a teaching tool. Even ignoring the time > that it took to build the course, the total hands on time from me over the > four weeks is being sold at a fraction of my consulting rate. > > All of that said, I'm not leaving anybody behind now that I've built this > course, or suggesting that you can't kick ass without taking it. MANY people > were already kicking ass well before the beginning of September. > > But many aren't, and if they want the extra help on a fast-track, I can > provide an option that's sustainable and productive for them AND for me. Win > win. If someone takes the class and feels like they didn't get their money's > worth, I've screwed up somewhere else. > > Everyone still has to choose the option for themselves, there's no way that I > will try to force people to buy something they don't need. > > The most likely outcome of me having this course is that I'll have MORE > advice that I can openly share on this list because I now have a great > framework for creating new, better answers to questions and problems about > coworking & community building. > > BOTTOM LINE: > This list is for SHARING OPENLY and learning from each other, that's always > been my personal priority, and that's not going away. > > I made a mistake by sending direct sales emails to a list where I should have > known better, and thanks to some friendly reminders, I won't be doing that > any more and I'm genuinely sorry for my mis-step. > > None of the good stuff is going away, it's only getting better. > > -Alex > > > > > > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kat CoBiz Coworking Vegas wrote: > >> OMG! Seriously guyslet me give you a different outlook on this. We in >> the coworking world are looking for serious support, trying to get our >> message out, keep our doors open and build community. >> >> This kind of "you don't get to" conversation doesn't serve any of us. We >> look to you for leadership ALEX and we have given you that role and yet your >> $1,200 plus class seems untouchable to some of us needing real support >> today! "Masters rule and start-ups drool"! High School and I call B.S! >> >> Might I suggest to those who really want to support owners and catalysts, >> GET in contribution as that is what coworking is about...none of us should >> have to be subjected to this. It's time to Collaborate, Sustain this >> community, Have ACCESSIBILITY to information, Build this community and BE >> OPEN to supporting others! Most in this group understand this! If you >> don'tand/or you have a hidden agenda or decided you can monetize your >> experience at our expense
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Thanks Shane. -Alex On Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:07:10 PM UTC-4, Shane wrote: > > Good on you. > Shane > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hillman > > > wrote: > > This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass > sales announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by example", and > as a result you won't be seeing me post that kind of thing to the list > anymore. > > A longer note about that is coming soon - in the mean time, to anybody > reading, I'm sorry. > > -Alex > > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adrienne N wrote: > > Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back. > > Jerome, while I agree with you on most postings, I think you had a knee > jerk reaction. > > We do allow coworking vendors on this forum (liquidspace, turnstone, etc) > as their involvement and engagement is valuable to our discussion. Jerome, > even your input as an architect is valuable to the discussion. But as long > as its a true engagement and they provide constructive feedback through > their roles in the industry. Our advertisement blasts I would agree are > spam, but I would give this the benefit of the doubt as he's only asked for > info (and annonomously given info at that). If he doesn't engage it back as > Alex suggests and starts sending ads, then yes, spam! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/N1GafVXEzUoJ. > To post to this group, send email to cowo...@googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowo...@googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/QkjvPEsC2LMJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Kat, I'm not leaving this group behind as a contributor or a leader, I'll always be here to help in every way that I can. That's my #1 priority. The course is a supplement for people who want more. Trust me that there's no hidden agenda here, it's that simple. Like many others on this list, I absolutely love helping people, and will give until my face falls off in a public forum that benefits more than just the one person who's asking. What's changed over the years of giving advice is that a lot of people have started seeking one-on-one advice. As often as possible, I've given that away for free as well. But a few things have happened: Not everybody is at the same level coming in. Some people need a LOT more guidance beyond "advice", into the realm of consulting. Many people ignore free advice. I repeat myself a lot. A LOT. The reason for the price of the course is because it's a TON of hours of hands on work with the individuals who enroll, and there are now hundreds of hours that have gone into building a teaching tool. Even ignoring the time that it took to build the course, the total hands on time from me over the four weeks is being sold at a fraction of my consulting rate. All of that said, I'm not leaving anybody behind now that I've built this course, or suggesting that you can't kick ass without taking it. MANY people were already kicking ass well before the beginning of September. But many aren't, and if they want the extra help on a fast-track, I can provide an option that's sustainable and productive for them AND for me. Win win. If someone takes the class and feels like they didn't get their money's worth, I've screwed up somewhere else. Everyone still has to choose the option for themselves, there's no way that I will try to force people to buy something they don't need. The most likely outcome of me having this course is that I'll have MORE advice that I can openly share on this list because I now have a great framework for creating new, better answers to questions and problems about coworking & community building. BOTTOM LINE: This list is for SHARING OPENLY and learning from each other, that's always been my personal priority, and that's not going away. I made a mistake by sending direct sales emails to a list where I should have known better, and thanks to some friendly reminders, I won't be doing that any more and I'm genuinely sorry for my mis-step. None of the good stuff is going away, it's only getting better. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kat CoBiz Coworking Vegas wrote: > OMG! Seriously guyslet me give you a different outlook on this. We in > the coworking world are looking for serious support, trying to get our > message out, keep our doors open and build community. > > This kind of "you don't get to" conversation doesn't serve any of us. We > look to you for leadership ALEX and we have given you that role and yet your > $1,200 plus class seems untouchable to some of us needing real support today! > "Masters rule and start-ups drool"! High School and I call B.S! > > Might I suggest to those who really want to support owners and catalysts, GET > in contribution as that is what coworking is about...none of us should have > to be subjected to this. It's time to Collaborate, Sustain this community, > Have ACCESSIBILITY to information, Build this community and BE OPEN to > supporting others! Most in this group understand this! If you > don'tand/or you have a hidden agenda or decided you can monetize your > experience at our expense, please terminate your membership to this group and > seek life elsewhere... we are in the trenches and are not interested in > being SOLD ANYTHING! > > Happy Sunday... Thanks for letting me share! > > Kat, Passionate Space Owner > CoBiz Coworking Space ~ Las Vegas > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:50:08 AM UTC-7, Alex Hillman wrote: > > This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass > > sales announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by example", and > > as a result you won't be seeing me post that kind of thing to the list > > anymore. > > > > A longer note about that is coming soon - in the mean time, to anybody > > reading, I'm sorry. > > > > -Alex > > > > > > -- > > /ah > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org) > > coworking in philadelphia > > build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > > (http://masterclass.indyhall.org) > > > > > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adrienne N wrote: > > > > > Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back. > > > > > > Jerome, while I agree with you on most postings, I think you had a knee > > > jerk reaction. > > > > > > We do allow coworking vendors on this forum (liquidspace, turnstone, etc) > > > as their involvement and engag
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
OMG! Seriously guyslet me give you a different outlook on this. We in the coworking world are looking for serious support, trying to get our message out, keep our doors open and build community. This kind of "you don't get to" conversation doesn't serve any of us. We look to you for leadership ALEX and we have given you that role and yet your $1,200 plus class seems untouchable to some of us needing real support today! "Masters rule and start-ups drool"! High School and I call B.S! Might I suggest to those who really want to support owners and catalysts, GET in contribution as that is what coworking is about...none of us should have to be subjected to this. It's time to Collaborate, Sustain this community, Have ACCESSIBILITY to information, Build this community and BE OPEN to supporting others! Most in this group understand this! If you don'tand/or you have a hidden agenda or decided you can monetize your experience at our expense, please terminate your membership to this group and seek life elsewhere... we are in the trenches and are not interested in being SOLD ANYTHING! Happy Sunday... Thanks for letting me share! Kat, Passionate Space Owner CoBiz Coworking Space ~ Las Vegas On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:50:08 AM UTC-7, Alex Hillman wrote: > > This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass > sales announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by example", and > as a result you won't be seeing me post that kind of thing to the list > anymore. > > A longer note about that is coming soon - in the mean time, to anybody > reading, I'm sorry. > > -Alex > > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adrienne N wrote: > > Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back. > > Jerome, while I agree with you on most postings, I think you had a knee > jerk reaction. > > We do allow coworking vendors on this forum (liquidspace, turnstone, etc) > as their involvement and engagement is valuable to our discussion. Jerome, > even your input as an architect is valuable to the discussion. But as long > as its a true engagement and they provide constructive feedback through > their roles in the industry. Our advertisement blasts I would agree are > spam, but I would give this the benefit of the doubt as he's only asked for > info (and annonomously given info at that). If he doesn't engage it back as > Alex suggests and starts sending ads, then yes, spam! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/N1GafVXEzUoJ. > To post to this group, send email to cowo...@googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/xwGPN2-RqYQJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Good on you. Shane Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hillman wrote: > This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass sales > announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by example", and as a > result you won't be seeing me post that kind of thing to the list anymore. > > A longer note about that is coming soon - in the mean time, to anybody > reading, I'm sorry. > > -Alex > > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adrienne N wrote: > >> Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back. >> >> Jerome, while I agree with you on most postings, I think you had a knee jerk >> reaction. >> >> We do allow coworking vendors on this forum (liquidspace, turnstone, etc) as >> their involvement and engagement is valuable to our discussion. Jerome, even >> your input as an architect is valuable to the discussion. But as long as its >> a true engagement and they provide constructive feedback through their roles >> in the industry. Our advertisement blasts I would agree are spam, but I >> would give this the benefit of the doubt as he's only asked for info (and >> annonomously given info at that). If he doesn't engage it back as Alex >> suggests and starts sending ads, then yes, spam! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/N1GafVXEzUoJ. >> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass sales announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by example", and as a result you won't be seeing me post that kind of thing to the list anymore. A longer note about that is coming soon - in the mean time, to anybody reading, I'm sorry. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adrienne N wrote: > Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back. > > Jerome, while I agree with you on most postings, I think you had a knee jerk > reaction. > > We do allow coworking vendors on this forum (liquidspace, turnstone, etc) as > their involvement and engagement is valuable to our discussion. Jerome, even > your input as an architect is valuable to the discussion. But as long as its > a true engagement and they provide constructive feedback through their roles > in the industry. Our advertisement blasts I would agree are spam, but I would > give this the benefit of the doubt as he's only asked for info (and > annonomously given info at that). If he doesn't engage it back as Alex > suggests and starts sending ads, then yes, spam! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/N1GafVXEzUoJ. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com > (mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > (mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back. Jerome, while I agree with you on most postings, I think you had a knee jerk reaction. We do allow coworking vendors on this forum (liquidspace, turnstone, etc) as their involvement and engagement is valuable to our discussion. Jerome, even your input as an architect is valuable to the discussion. But as long as its a true engagement and they provide constructive feedback through their roles in the industry. Our advertisement blasts I would agree are spam, but I would give this the benefit of the doubt as he's only asked for info (and annonomously given info at that). If he doesn't engage it back as Alex suggests and starts sending ads, then yes, spam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/N1GafVXEzUoJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Thanks Andrei. See you in Paris! -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Saturday, September 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Andrei Belykh wrote: > @Jerome, @Alex, @FellowMembers > > There are already numerous responses to my question, and we shall share the > results and our opinion on questions asked with coworking community later on, > apparently before Coworking Conference in Paris or earlier. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/zLe9VEKqlsYJ. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
@Jerome, @Alex, @FellowMembers There are already numerous responses to my question, and we shall share the results and our opinion on questions asked with coworking community later on, apparently before Coworking Conference in Paris or earlier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/zLe9VEKqlsYJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
I'd encourage you guys to take your disagreement outside. This discussion is far more disruptive in its current form. Andrei, I think this could be simply resolved by making part of your request for info include what you intend to do with the info you collect, including how you plan to share it back! -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Saturday, September 15, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: > You must be new to this forum so I will clarify. This email platform is not > for sales solicitations. Your twitter handle description explicitly is > seeking clients, "We assist in planning and designing CoWorking and > Collaborative environments". > > Your posting does push your question and sales agenda to every recipient > here. Perhaps if your twitter feed had more than one post we could at least > give you the benefit of the doubt that despite the handle description, your > twitter account is for sharing coworking design knowledge. You're welcome to > repost in a few months when sharing and contributing is clear. > > > Jerome, from his iPhone =) > > On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Andrei Belykh (mailto:bel...@me.com)> wrote: > > > Jerome, > > > > It looks like your personal perception of the matter itself, doesn't it? > > Does anybody push you to answer the question? > > > > Do you really believe there is only spam in this world? What about > > knowledge sharing and collaboration? Did you read Coworking Manifesto? > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Coworking" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/z6qSFumWGhIJ. > > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com > > (mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com). > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > (mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
You must be new to this forum so I will clarify. This email platform is not for sales solicitations. Your twitter handle description explicitly is seeking clients, "We assist in planning and designing CoWorking and Collaborative environments". Your posting does push your question and sales agenda to every recipient here. Perhaps if your twitter feed had more than one post we could at least give you the benefit of the doubt that despite the handle description, your twitter account is for sharing coworking design knowledge. You're welcome to repost in a few months when sharing and contributing is clear. Jerome, from his iPhone =) On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Andrei Belykh wrote: > Jerome, > > It looks like your personal perception of the matter itself, doesn't it? Does > anybody push you to answer the question? > > Do you really believe there is only spam in this world? What about knowledge > sharing and collaboration? Did you read Coworking Manifesto? > > > > Peace > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/z6qSFumWGhIJ. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
Jerome, It looks like your personal perception of the matter itself, doesn't it? Does anybody push you to answer the question? Do you really believe there is only spam in this world? What about knowledge sharing and collaboration? Did you read Coworking Manifesto? Peace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/z6qSFumWGhIJ. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Single Question on Coworking Space Design
This is spam. You're soliciting clients here for your design business Jerome, from his iPhone =) On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Andrei Belykh wrote: > Please feel free to answer in your native language if you wish. Thank you! > > Now you could also follow us on Twitter @ twitter.com/CoWorkingDesign for > updates. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/n2tTPmM6yQYJ. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
