Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Cannot update the "Eclipse Standard" package anymore

2014-10-13 Thread Ed Willink

Hi

Ah! I noticed the new download and assumed it was giving me added value, 
e.g the Simrel aggrcon support and other good things I might have 
overlooked such as Oomph.


Perhaps we want what I expected the new package to be in addition to the 
old "Standard"/"Classic"/"Basic".


Regards

Ed Willink

On 13/10/2014 05:17, Eike Stepper wrote:

Hi,

I have noticed that the former "Eclipse Standard" package has recently 
been renamed to "Eclipse IDE for Eclipse Committers". Personally I 
don't like the new name because it suggests that this package contains 
something in addition to the (classic) minimum which is only meant for 
committers and that seems wrong. But more importantly, I think there 
were two things wrong with the renaming process itself:


1) The preceeding discussion took place in 
http://bugs.eclipse.org/443296 and not on this list. IIRC not even a 
link to this bug was posted on this list. As a result it seems that 
the decision was influenced/made by just a handful people.


2) This "renaming" wasn't just a change of the user-visible label and 
sorting order but instead the fundamental IDs of the installable p2 
units were changed from "eep.package.standard" to 
"epp.package.committers"; to the effect that existing Eclipse Standard 
installations cannot update to Mars (M2) anymore, but fail with 
mysterious errors about Eclipse Compare conflicts.


Given that the Eclipse Standard package was by far the most downloaded 
package by the end of Kepler and still among the 3 (or so) most 
popular packages for Luna this change of the p2 ID seems extremely 
disruptive for a very large group of users (must be millions) and I 
wonder if that was really the intention.


If there's confusion about the good old "Eclipse Standard" package on 
the download page I suggest to change its user-visible label on that 
download page and possibly in the p2 metadata. But unless I miss an 
important point I suggest to continue to provide package IUs with the 
existing ID "epp.package.standard" and ideally even change Mars M2 to 
do so.


Cheers
/Eike


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[cross-project-issues-dev] How to set Review/Verified flags on already merged gerrit changesets

2014-10-13 Thread Fred Bricon
Hi,

so I kind of f*ed up pushing a couple gerrit changesets directly from my
local repo , instead of using the webapp and its brilliant and so intuitive
UI (sarcasm included) and the Review/Verified flags are not set (see
https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/q/status:merged+project:m2e-wtp/org.eclipse.m2e.wtp,n,z
)
I haven't found a way to set these flags from the UI once the changesets
have already been merged. Anyone knows how to do that? Should I open a bug
to the webmasters @ eclipse.org?

Thanks,

Fred Bricon

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Cannot update the "Eclipse Standard" package anymore

2014-10-13 Thread Gunnar Wagenknecht
Hi Eike,

There is some discussion on https://bugs.eclipse.org/441957 (with a link to 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/381751). The idea is to add a p2.inf late in the Mars 
cycle which will allow updating from a Juno SR? to the new package in Mars. 
I’ve opened https://bugs.eclipse.org/446983 to track the effort.

-Gunnar

Am 13.10.2014 um 06:17 schrieb Eike Stepper :

> Hi,
> 
> I have noticed that the former "Eclipse Standard" package has recently been 
> renamed to "Eclipse IDE for Eclipse Committers". Personally I don't like the 
> new name because it suggests that this package contains something in addition 
> to the (classic) minimum which is only meant for committers and that seems 
> wrong. But more importantly, I think there were two things wrong with the 
> renaming process itself:
> 
> 1) The preceeding discussion took place in http://bugs.eclipse.org/443296 and 
> not on this list. IIRC not even a link to this bug was posted on this list. 
> As a result it seems that the decision was influenced/made by just a handful 
> people.
> 
> 2) This "renaming" wasn't just a change of the user-visible label and sorting 
> order but instead the fundamental IDs of the installable p2 units were 
> changed from "eep.package.standard" to "epp.package.committers"; to the 
> effect that existing Eclipse Standard installations cannot update to Mars 
> (M2) anymore, but fail with mysterious errors about Eclipse Compare conflicts.
> 
> Given that the Eclipse Standard package was by far the most downloaded 
> package by the end of Kepler and still among the 3 (or so) most popular 
> packages for Luna this change of the p2 ID seems extremely disruptive for a 
> very large group of users (must be millions) and I wonder if that was really 
> the intention.
> 
> If there's confusion about the good old "Eclipse Standard" package on the 
> download page I suggest to change its user-visible label on that download 
> page and possibly in the p2 metadata. But unless I miss an important point I 
> suggest to continue to provide package IUs with the existing ID 
> "epp.package.standard" and ideally even change Mars M2 to do so.
> 
> Cheers
> /Eike
> 
> 
> http://www.esc-net.de
> http://thegordian.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/eikestepper
> 
> 
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