[css-d] feeding different body tag to different pages. How

2005-05-13 Thread Karl Bedingfield
Hi there,

 

I want to change the background image (used for faux columns) on certain
pages. The bg image is in the body tag like so ..

 

html, body {

background: #E0DDD6 url(/images/bbg.gif) repeat-y 50% 0;

font: 12px Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;

text-align: center;

padding: 0;

margin: 0;

}

 

Can I have different body tags based on page requirements?

 

Many thanks
Karl Bedingfield

 

 

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[css-d] Site check - IE width problem

2005-05-13 Thread Mike Davies
I have a problem with this page in IE. The page renders correctly in
Opera and Firefox.

There are three floated columns inside a container div. 
rightcol w=160px, leftcol w=160px, contentcol w=430px all have padding,
margin and border =0. wrap has width 755px. IE renders the rightcol
below the other two which appears to be related to the widths but I
can't see why as the three total 750px. Can anyone comment?

Also seems to be a problem with the top/bottom margins above and below
the nav. list.

Any help appreciated

Page : www.integrawebdesign.co.uk/dunmaglass/dunmaglass.html
css : www.integrawebdesign.co.uk/dunmaglass/dunmagla.css
  www.integrawebdesign.co.uk/dunmaglass/layout.css

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Re: [css-d] Site check - IE width problem

2005-05-13 Thread jack fredricks
3px bug?
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Re: [css-d] Two inline lists - one left, one right

2005-05-13 Thread Rob Freundlich
On Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:51 PM [GMT+0100=CET],Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Freundlich schrieb:
 I've been offered two approaches:
 My browser support requirements are IE 6 and Netscape 7.  Both
 approaches work in both browsers.  Given that, does either approach
 have an advantage over the other?

 I wonder why nobody has suggested:
 TILT: How to Stop Feeling Bad About Using Tables for Layout and Start
 Enjoying Your Markup
 http://glazkov.com/blog/archive/2005/05/02/476.aspx;

That's a very interesting article.  I'm always amazed at what people can
come up with to work around incompatibilities ...

 I think the main problem with this and other ASCII art questions
 without an URL is that we truly cannot answer them nor discuss the
 answers because we don't know anything about
 a) the content, and
 b) the context.

I generally agree with the above.  However, this was a simple enough example
that I did the quick easy thing instead of putting up a sample site and
going into detail.  (Rob's New Corollary to Murphy's Law: it's *never* as
simple as it looks)  Since it's clearly not quite enough (sorry about that!)
to resolve my followup question, I'll add some detail now.

I'm writing (or rather, revising) a web app for desktop intranet use,
supporting IE6 and NS7.  It emulates a semi-standard desktop app 3-panel
layout: a nav tree on the left, and two panels (top for lists and bottom for
details) on the right.  In the list and detail panels, there are toolbars
with actions that can be taken on the data in the panel.

See http://home.comcast.net/~rob.freundlich/css/layout.png for a picture.

The action items on the toolbar are grouped left and right.  I'm
implementing them as ULs.  Under generally normal screen/window size, it is
unlikely that the two lists will be large enough to meet in the middle.  I'm
fairly willing to accept odd appearance if the user decides to go small
enough to violate that, since the data being displayed will not be useful at
small window widths.

As far as I can tell, the float method will degrade in the above violation
to stacking the items vertically, and the pos:relative method will caue
visual overlapping.  Either one will tell my user that they need to make the
window wider, so I can live with either one.

So, given all of that, is there any reason to choose one technique over the
other?

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: [css-d] I hope this is the last time

2005-05-13 Thread Lorin Rivers
On May 13, 2005, at 2:59 AM, Ingo Chao wrote:
Lorin Rivers schrieb:
Allright,
Design change required a little tweaking to get it to this point.  
Now  the top section is ~55px too tall. In IE6 only, of course.
I've taken all the heights, widths, and most padding and margin in  
an  effort to isolate the problem, to no joy.
http://mosasaur.com/clients/less

I fear this is not the last time for your layout in IE6 ;)
you have
div id=lessframetop
  div.../div
  h1.../h1
/div
div id=lesscontent
...
/div
In IE6, you can define
div#lessframetop { ... height: 15px; ...}
but IE6 will expand to fit the following div:
div#lessframetop div { ... height: 55px;... }
similar with h1:
div#lessframetop h1 { ... position: relative; ... top: -60px; }
* html div#lessframetop h1 {... height: 1%; }
Note the word /then/ here: The box's position is calculated  
according to the normal flow ... Then the box is offset relative to  
its normal position. When a box B is relatively positioned, the  
position of the following box is calculated as though B were not  
offset.

This makes it real hard in IE6:
#lessframetop is expanded by the height of div and h1
The dilemma in your design is that you have to assign a height in  
#lessframetop to get a reasonable height for the bg-img. (So you'd  
end in the very same problem by using floats: IE6 will auto-contain  
these floats because of the layout #lessframetop.)

Sorry, before we start a. p. more and more or strike back with neg.  
r.p. this and that, I think you should isolate the lessframetop/ 
lesscontent and(!) its nearest positioned ancestor for a simplified  
testcase that works in FF and breaks in IE without debugging stuff  
and perhaps less orange :)

Ingo

Ingo, you are the BEST.
OK, well I took out all the debugging borders out, as well as the  
position info for h1. The question I should be asking I guess is how  
do I get the h1 to be centered vertically in #frametop and more-or- 
less aligned right?

In FF now, the h1 is left-aligned and below the div and in IE it's in  
the same position, but also makes the containing div that much taller.

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Re: [css-d] feeding different body tag to different pages. How

2005-05-13 Thread Jan Brasna
Sure - body id=about, body id=contact etc. ...
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Re: [css-d] Safari 1.3 and a:hover question

2005-05-13 Thread Phillip Hollweg
Philippe:
Updating the styles to use the complete set of pseudo-classes (link, 
visited, hover, active) has made it work for me as expected -- thanks 
for your help.

Phillip
On May 12, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
It works just fine here (both Safari 1.2 and 1.3), based on that 
little snipped of code.

Do you have a url where it fails? There could be something else...
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Re: [css-d] something weird in Linux

2005-05-13 Thread Marcus Williams
On 13/05/2005 15:54, Barbara Dozetos wrote:
For some reason, the leftnav box appears too high on the page in Mozilla 
and FF on the initial load. A refresh of the page puts it where it 
belongs. 
I'm seeing the same problem on FF 1.0.4 in windows XP as well so I doubt 
its a linux specific bug.

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RE: [css-d] something weird in Linux

2005-05-13 Thread Dennis Bixler
FWIW, it does it in Firefox 1.0.4 on WinXP but only on the first load of
the page, or if you clear the cache and the load the page.

Not sure what's causing it but it could be that something is slow in
loading above and the position on the page has no viable reference yet.
I normally notice this kind of behavior when there is a floating image
or height sized div that is delayed.

Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Barbara Dozetos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:54 AM
To: 'CSS Discussion Group'
Subject: [css-d] something weird in Linux

Hello again.

This page is now live, but I'm seeing an intermittent weirdness with 
some browsers on Linux platforms. (Yes, this matters.  We're a largely 
Linux company and many of our clients are there or headed that way, as 
well.)
http://www.pcc.com/

For some reason, the leftnav box appears too high on the page in Mozilla

and FF on the initial load. A refresh of the page puts it where it 
belongs. 

Does anyone have an idea as to why this is happening and/or how it might

be fixed.

Thanks,

Barb

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Re: [css-d] Why isn't my active list item showing up properly?

2005-05-13 Thread Faust
Andrew Mason wrote:
Please take a look at this site: http://www.pandamouth.org/test/
I'm using a background image that I shift around to make the  bullets.  
I'd like the active link to have a white bullet point(just  like it does 
for a:hover), but for some reason when I assign the  active_bullet 
class to the appropriate link it has no effect.
Try:
#page_header li a.active_bullet {
 background-image: url(bullet.gif);
 background-repeat: no-repeat;
 background-position: 0pt -18px;
}
My guess is that it has to do with cascading order.
Faust
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Re: [css-d] PHP and CSS

2005-05-13 Thread Martin . C . Austin
Sarah Atkinson wrote on 05/13/2005 10:25:55 AM:

 Out of curiosity can you use PHP with in a CSS. Like maybe have a 
 list of background images located in a DB and PHP select and insert 
 on into the CSS. and possibly even have the user define things like 
 font size, font color, background color, and typeface. 
 Sarah 

It's my understanding that this is not possible, unless the PHP is in your 
.php document, as well as the CSS that is going to be altered.  Placing 
PHP code in a .css file does no good unless your server knows the parse 
.css files as PHP.  If that's the case, then I don't see why it couldn't 
work in an external file, though I don't have the resources to test it 
right now.
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Re: [css-d] PHP and CSS

2005-05-13 Thread Jack Keller
Sarah Atkinson wrote:
Out of curiosity can you use PHP with in a CSS. Like maybe have a list of background images located in a DB and PHP select and insert on into the CSS. and possibly even have the user define things like font size, font color, background color, and typeface. 
Sarah 
 

You can actually do a style.php and format it like a document specific 
stylesheet but I think you then have trouble validating a stylesheet, 
well maybe not it would be included in a page like ? 
include('style.php') ;? and it would just look like this in the page:

head tags all up in here
style type=text/css
!--
.classofsomesorts {font-face: Geneva; etc}
--
/style
And when the php file is rendered the databased info and dynamic stuff 
is of course not viewable to sneaky source readers.

Jack Keller | cell7.org
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Re: [css-d] PHP and CSS

2005-05-13 Thread Marko Locher
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Sarah Atkinson wrote:
 Out of curiosity can you use PHP with in a CSS. Like maybe have a list of 
 background images located in a DB and PHP select and insert on into the CSS. 
 and possibly even have the user define things like font size, font color, 
 background color, and typeface. 
 Sarah 
Of coure you can do this. There are two posibilities:
- - Inline Css, that's the way Brian wrote about, and
- - a separate stylesheet,
If you use a separate stylesheet, who can use a php document (for ex.
style.php) which gets parsed by the webserver, and then just include
this file from your main (x)html file. (either with @import or a link
tag, which ever you like more)

Marko

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Re: [css-d] PHP and CSS

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Robinson
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sarah Atkinson wrote on 05/13/2005 10:25:55 AM:
Out of curiosity can you use PHP with in a CSS. Like maybe have a
list of background images located in a DB and PHP select and insert
on into the CSS. and possibly even have the user define things like
font size, font color, background color, and typeface.
Sarah
It's my understanding that this is not possible, unless the PHP is in your
.php document, as well as the CSS that is going to be altered.  Placing
PHP code in a .css file does no good unless your server knows the parse
.css files as PHP.  If that's the case, then I don't see why it couldn't
work in an external file, though I don't have the resources to test it
right now.
Actually, if you can set up your webserver to process you CSS files by PHP, 
it
is possible. You just have to output the correct header first.
See http://codewalkers.com/tutorials/75/1.html for a good write-up 
about this.

Ken
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[css-d] CSS and me

2005-05-13 Thread Benjamin Kirkby
http://ben.web.arizona.edu/today/fixed.htm


Here is the problem. I have been working on this site for a few weeks now,
trying to lay the whole thing out using css. Every time I get the design to
work properly in one browser, it breaks in another. Since I work for a
public university, this is not acceptable. My director is now pressuring me
to lay the new website out using tables and I would like to avoid that if
possible. Actually, I am getting sick of the disappointment and frustration
I encounter on a regular basis using css-based layout. Can any one out there
give me any sort of advice on how to make this website work, without a
hitch, across all browsers on all platforms? Small design differences are
fine but things like navigation bars not floating properly and content
columns getting pushed  other columns is not acceptable. Thanks for any and
all advice... I have included the css inline to make it easier to review.

Ben
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Re: [css-d] CSS and me

2005-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which browsers doesn't it work with?  I can't see any problems with FF 
1.04 and with IE6.  Are you required to make it look good in older 
browsers?  Can you look at the log files and determine what browsers 
visitors are using?
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Re: [css-d] CSS and me

2005-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also,
Validate code first.  Your issues may be as easy as that?  You have a 
bunch of xhtml errors.  Most might not matter, but when I did a css 
validation it choked on the xhtml, so I think this is worth looking at 
first.

Joel Goldstick
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Re: [css-d] something weird in Linux

2005-05-13 Thread Ingo Chao
Barbara Dozetos schrieb:
Great hint, Paul.  Could those of you who saw the problem before please 
try this page and see if I've fixed the problem?
http://www.pcc.com/welcometest.html

From bad to worse in Moz1.6/Win. Now the leftnav stays wrong until reload.
Outlined img here: Note that the height of the image is similar to the 
misalignment.

http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/welcometest.jpg
If its still of interest: Note that the footer jumps while loading the 
second main picture (247supportemma. jpg)

Still suggesting a height in all images.
Ingo
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RE: [css-d] something weird in Linux

2005-05-13 Thread Dennis Bixler
As already posted it still doesn't work.

Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Barbara Dozetos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'CSS Discussion Group'
Subject: Re: [css-d] something weird in Linux

Great hint, Paul.  Could those of you who saw the problem before please 
try this page and see if I've fixed the problem?
http://www.pcc.com/welcometest.html

(PS -- I know about the IE6  problem with the smaller screens.  Working 
on that, as well. Would be so much nicer if IE 6 would just honor the 
'min-width' declaration.)

Thanks,
Barb

Paul Debban wrote:

 You should move your inline styles with floats up into your style 
 block. Firefox displays the page incrementally as it loads. Your 
 inline styles with floats define the position of display blocks after 
 part of the page is already rendered.

 ---
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[css-d] IE rendering bug, invisible text involving 3 divs and 3 CSS styles

2005-05-13 Thread Justin Patrin
FYI, I've posted this bug to quirksmode.org but it hasn't shown up
yet. Hopefully it will soon.

A short description:

This rendering bug in Internet Explorer 6.0 causes text in a div with
a background color followed by a div which floats to the left and
another which is clear on the left to be invisible. This bug does not
manifest in FireFox or Safari (although Safari renders the Hidden Text
to the right of the float: left div). All styling on the text is also
invisible (such as background colors and text colors).

A longer description and (lots of) examples and a workaround:
http://pear.reversefold.com/badIE/

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Re: [css-d] Site check - IE width problem

2005-05-13 Thread Lothar B. Baier
Hi!
Mike Davies schrieb:
 I have a problem with this page in IE. The page renders correctly in
 Opera and Firefox.

 There are three floated columns inside a container div.
 rightcol w=160px, leftcol w=160px, contentcol w=430px all have padding,
 margin and border =0. wrap has width 755px. IE renders the rightcol
 below the other two which appears to be related to the widths but I
 can't see why as the three total 750px. Can anyone comment?
In either #leftcol and #rightcol you have pictures in a p-tag. P has 
padding. So IE expands the cols to fit in the pictures.

HTH
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Re: [css-d] ie6 problem w/ screen shots

2005-05-13 Thread Donna Jones
ah Bruno  how can I *thank you*  fixed fixed fixed. 
that's one i won't forget, you can count on that!

best regards and cheers!
Donna
Bruno Fassino wrote:
Donna Jones wrote:

i'm having a problem with ie6
http://www.westendwebs.net/litmed/lm_program.html

You have italics in that page, and these may produce, in IE/Win, boxes
larger then expected [1].
Try adding:
#contentwrapper {
overflow: visible;
}
Please note that this bug may show up in IE5.x also. You don't have it now,
probably because it also depends  on the fact that some containers have or
not a dimension (hasLayout.) Should you change something, you may trigger
it, and if you care about IE5.0 the fix is a bit more complex.
hth,
Bruno
[1] http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html
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[css-d] Head Scratchers

2005-05-13 Thread Frank McClung
I'm new to CSS, so please forgive these very simple questions. I'm working
on a CSS based site for a client and am :

 

1.  Having problems in IE getting the boxes on the right to line up in
the right column (#nextstep and #ebay) to line up and #submast to show up. 
2.  #nextstep and #ebay are correct in Firefox, but the #submast
background image is still covered up. 
3.  Bottom of the page is cut off in IE. 

 

http://www.computerrecycling.us/subpage3.htm

 

Please advise.

 

Thanks,

 

Frank

 

 

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Re: [css-d] site check please!

2005-05-13 Thread Tom Livingston
On Fri, 13 May 2005 14:39:36 -0400, anthony croshaw  
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I have no way of checking macs, cheers
Ant
http://www.onceuponatimenursery.com  
http://www.onceuponatimenursery.com/

Looks good in Safari 1.3 and Opera 8b1 except in both, the pages scroll  
down much farther than needed past the IE7 bug.

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[css-d] I Need A Comparison

2005-05-13 Thread Dwight Stegall
I need for someone to look at the following page. Please look at it
with both WinIE6.0 and FireFox and tell me if it looks different in
FireFox.

http://dwight.tendirect.com/colorsafeie-2.htm

Later when I'm finished the cursor won't appear as a hand when FireFox
users move their cursor over it. I have to put two of these tables
side-by-side when I'm finished. I don't think it will be a problem.
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[css-d] centering nested list output...

2005-05-13 Thread Deep Third Man
I am working my way through TJKDesign's excellent tutorial on its TJK
Dropdown Menu:

http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/3.asp
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/demo.asp

My sample page:
http://www.shrikhande.us/CSSMenu/test.cfm

The relevant CSS and js files:
http://www.shrikhande.us/CSSMenu/css/basic.css
http://www.shrikhande.us/CSSMenu/css/msie.css
http://www.shrikhande.us/CSSMenu/js/js4msie.js
http://www.shrikhande.us/CSSMenu/js/turnoffmsie.js

The css and html pass the W3C validator.


I am wondering if it is possible to center the second tier of links
that popup - center them relative to the upper list.  You can see the
problem when the  item in the parent-list is off the right and the
child-list is so small it is delivered way-off to the right. You can
see what happens when one moves their cursor over Academic, Activity 
Merit Scholarships link.

Look forward to your assistance on this issue. Thanks!

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[css-d] Space below left nav

2005-05-13 Thread Ian Anna-Ruth Rutgers
Thank you everyone for your help with my work on this page.  The problem
with the footer has been resolved.  

My remaining issue is with the space below the left navigation.  I would
love it if someone would point out how to get the grey background of the
left navigation to continue to the bottom of the page.

The page in question is http://www.otima.ca/blogs/default2.php which I
have now separated the css into two files core.css and secondary.css ...
much easier to read and modify.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Ian

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[css-d] Space below left nav

2005-05-13 Thread Ian Anna-Ruth Rutgers
Thank you everyone for your help with my work on this page.  The problem
with the footer has been resolved.  

My remaining issue is with the space below the left navigation.  I would
love it if someone would point out how to get the grey background of the
left navigation to continue to the bottom of the page.  This is not an
issue in Internet Explorer, but in Firefox and Netscape.

The page in question is http://www.otima.ca/blogs/default2.php which I
have now separated the css into two files core.css and secondary.css ...
much easier to read and modify.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Ian

p.s. sorry for sending this 2x ... I had forgotten a crucial point.

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RE: [css-d] dumb question

2005-05-13 Thread Jon Jensen
That's just the way it's defined. Id's in HTML are comparable to variable
names in programming languages, which generally have similar restrictions.

From the HTML spec:

  ID and NAME tokens must begin with a letter ([A-Za-z])
  and may be followed by any number of letters, digits
  ([0-9]), hyphens (-), underscores (_), colons (:),
  and periods (.).

  http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#type-name

Jon
  


 -Original Message-
 From: Marty Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:02 PM
 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] dumb question
 
 This may be a dumb question, but I noticed you can give an ID 
 (and I assume also CLASS) a solely numeric value.  If I start 
 it with a alpha character then all is hunky dory, but I want 
 it to be a number.  What gives?  Is there rationale for this?
 
 Just looking for an explanation if anyone knows, thanks!
 
 ie:
 
 div#01 { width: 100%; }  == no good
 
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[css-d] Line-Heights

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Brown
Hi
I am trying to play with line heights on the following page:
http://arts.cregy.net/pages/pager.php
I would like the word Restormel to sit on top of the word Arts and 
I can't seem to achieve this.

Can anybody help please?
Css at http://arts.cregy.net/styles/pages.css
Thanks
Rich
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[css-d] CSS-filter MSIE 5/PC

2005-05-13 Thread Uwe Kaiser
Hi,
I try to use a filter in order to hide css from all of the browsers,
exept MSIE 5/PC.
Given is following HTML-markup:
div id='Nav'
  ul
li item 1 /li
li item 2 /li
li item 3 /li
li item 4 /li
  /ul
/div
#nav li {
margin: 0;
}
#nav  li {   /* MSIE 4 and 5 /PC only? */
margin-bottom: -3px;
}
MSIE 5/PC interprets it (wrongly) as: every descendant 'LI'
of an element with the ID 'Nav' or 'nav'.
This filter is tested under W2K only.
Does anybody know wether another browser
is able to interpret this too. (Mac especially!)
Thanks in advance,
Uwe Kaiser

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[css-d] transparent back ground patterns.. anyone?

2005-05-13 Thread fokuss
Hello,
I have been trying to find a good method to create (or a site thathas 
some tutes) tiling background images that are frequently seen on CSS 
based sites. I have a site I am working on right now and I cant seem to 
find a good source since the term back ground image is quite vague 
when searched.

I am looking for some thing subtle and similiar to this:
http://www.csszengarden.com/160/linklist_bg.gif
which is from this site (located right under the header Road To 
Enlightenment:
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/160/160.csspage=0

and also found in the right and left backgrounds on this page:
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/151/151.csspage=1
I like these and similiar graphics that seem to work particularly well 
on CSS designed pages.

Adam
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Re: [css-d] Line-Heights

2005-05-13 Thread Akins, Chris
I'm no CSS expert by any stretch, but I think what you're wanting to do is
to use margins for these two elements rather than line-height to achieve
what you want.

Set margin-bottom for the h1 and margin-top for the h2 to something explicit
and play with the values until you get the desired effect.

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On 5/13/05 4:15 PM, Richard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 I am trying to play with line heights on the following page:
 
 http://arts.cregy.net/pages/pager.php
 
 I would like the word Restormel to sit on top of the word Arts and
 I can't seem to achieve this.
 
 Can anybody help please?
 
 Css at http://arts.cregy.net/styles/pages.css
 
 Thanks
 
 Rich
 
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Re: [css-d] CSS-filter MSIE 5/PC

2005-05-13 Thread Jeroen van der Goorbergh
hey,
 p\roperty: value;  filter not approprate for your IE5 problem?
http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/simplified_box_model.html
~jeroen
On May 13, 2005, at 11:26 PM, Uwe Kaiser wrote:
Hi,
I try to use a filter in order to hide css from all of the browsers,
exept MSIE 5/PC.
Given is following HTML-markup:
div id='Nav'
  ul
li item 1 /li
li item 2 /li
li item 3 /li
li item 4 /li
  /ul
/div
#nav li {
margin: 0;
}
#nav  li {   /* MSIE 4 and 5 /PC only? */
margin-bottom: -3px;
}
MSIE 5/PC interprets it (wrongly) as: every descendant 'LI'
of an element with the ID 'Nav' or 'nav'.
This filter is tested under W2K only.
Does anybody know wether another browser
is able to interpret this too. (Mac especially!)
Thanks in advance,
Uwe Kaiser

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Re: [css-d] Line-Heights

2005-05-13 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, 13 May 2005 17:15:14 -0400, Richard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to play with line heights on the following page:
http://arts.cregy.net/pages/pager.php
I would like the word Restormel to sit on top of the word Arts and I  
can't seem to achieve this.
css
/*delete
#header .content{padding-bottom:0;}
*/
html, body { background-image: url(images/subliminal_spectrum.jpg); font:  
100 100.01%/126% serif; margin: 0; padding: 0; text-align: center; }
h1 { color: #000; font-size: 0.95em; margin: 2em 0 0 20px; text-transform:  
uppercase; }
h2 { color: #000; font-size: 5em; margin: .1em 0 0 20px; text-transform:  
lowercase; }
html
div id=pagewidth
div id=header
h1Restormel/h1
h2Arts/h2
/div
div class=content
div id=navcontainer
note:
Use relative font- sizing rather than pixels so IE can zoom -- this gets  
you started with % on the body  and em's on selectors(1em=16px).
The number of comments does not match the number closed elsewhere on your  
style sheet.
Also use and style p {..} rather than using a class with breaks on  
your text.
Thanks
Rich
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Re: [css-d] IE rendering bug, invisible text involving 3 divs and 3 CSS styles

2005-05-13 Thread Ingo Chao
Justin Patrin schrieb:
...
The Holly Hack probably does work, but I
stumbled across this page:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/haslayout.asp
which says that the zoom property also gives a box layout. So I tried
zoom: 100% in my div and lo and behold, it works.
Yes, but zoom is proprietary to MS and will not validate (I use zoom:1 
for debugging).
The problem with this MSDN page is that it don't explain what layout /is/

The mechanism of the Holly Hack is the same as zoom:1; but validates:
/* hide from IEMac \*/
* hmtl .hack {height:1%;}
/* end hide */
The intention of the Holly Bergevin's hack was not to add a height
of 1%, but to add a dimension to the element, as any dimensioned element
gains the layout-quality.
regards, Ingo
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Re: [css-d] something weird in Linux

2005-05-13 Thread Roman Rudenko
On Fri, 13 May 2005 08:42:29 -0700, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Barbara Dozetos schrieb:
http://www.pcc.com/
 For some reason, the leftnav box appears too high on the page in  
Mozilla and FF on the initial load. A refresh of the page puts it where  
it belongs.

I can reproduce something similar with an old Moz1.6/Win/cleared cache  
too. Here, the a.p. positioned navbar jumps down while the images are  
loading (no reload is necessary to fix the position).

I cannot reproduce it in Moz1.6 with a local copy of your page, so I  
think it's time/connection-critical. No problems with a Mar nightly.
I have managed to reproduce it with FF 1.0.4. The problem is with how  
Gecko treats auto sides in position: absolute;
Consider the following sequence of events:

HTML and CSS are loaded. No images arrived yet, so header height is ALT  
text plus extra, not image plus extra
Gecko determines the Y coordinate where box should be
Images are loaded. Now, the header is quite a lot bigger
Gecko does NOT recompute the coordinate. We get an overlap

Reoccurence depends on user connection, browser settings and network  
gremlins.

Possible solutions:
Giving height to images that are above the sidebar, or the header.
Giving position: relative to wrapper, and top: something real to  
misbehaving leftnav. This will make absolute positioning attach leftnav to  
wrapper instead of page, and as wrapper goes down due to reflows, so would  
leftnav.
Switching to floats for columns (have you seen the ugly overlap of sidebar  
and footer when images are off?)

Roman.
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Re: [css-d] IE rendering bug, invisible text involving 3 divs and 3 CSS styles

2005-05-13 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 14 May 2005, at 10:05 am, Ingo Chao wrote:
There might come the day when IE7-8 interpret height:1% without 
expanding the container by childs. As this hack was used to bugfix 
countless pages ... uh.
Conditional comments are your friend in all those cases, especially for 
those potentially quite destructive rules.
!--[if lte IE 6]
. /*styles for IE 6 and lower */

Philippe
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[css-d] auto width td's

2005-05-13 Thread Scott Haneda
I have tabular data:
table
tr
tdfoo/td
tdfoo/td
tr
/table

The tr... /tr parts repeat a few times, but anyway, I want them to just snug
up against the type in them, which I can not seem to make happen, whereas a
normal html table will see to do this just fine.

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