Re: [css-d] problem with background image

2005-07-08 Thread Gary Turner

John Goodwyn wrote:

I have a site that has an expandable left hand column by use of a repeating
background image.  However, the images extends the column past the footer
and it shouldn't.  Can someone look at my code and give me a clue as to how
I can fix this?  I've tried moving the copyright div out of the
contentWrapper nest of divs, but that took away the bg image completely.
Any thoughts?

 


http://ver5.elliswyatt.com/borland/default.aspx?id=4


Drop the footer out of .contentwrapper.  Put it immediately after 
closing .contentwrapper.


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Re: [css-d] Don't touch me! What is this (in FF!).

2005-07-08 Thread Gary Turner

Daniel Doesburg wrote:

Hi list,

I've made a new setup for a website.
For the time being only in FF.

But even that browser has his problems.

Look (did I already said: only FF?) at this page.

http://wouda.doesburg.biz/fileadmin/template1.html


And that touch the borders of the window. Resize a little bit.

What is the mechanism behind that behavior?

I suspect it's the overuse of positioning.  Without going too deep into 
things, I did this, and rid the page of the problem, maybe :)


div#inhoud {
margin: 0;
padding: 1em;
width: 51em;
}

div#fotolaag {}

It is my sense that you should have compelling reason to remove an 
element from flow.  I saw none here.


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[css-d] Explanation re: some odities

2005-07-08 Thread Schalk Neethling

Greetings All!

I am in the final stages of putting together a all CSS site and have now 
got IE to play nice and got the site to work on IE, Firefox Netscape 7.2 
and Opera but there are two things I needed to do to 'force' it to work. 
Please have a look at these two points and if you can give me some 
clarity on why I had to go this root or, show me a better way to do it, 
it will be much appreciated.


On the footer of the site, www.volume4.com/pattersonpruden/index.html, I 
have the following layout:

div id=footer
  div id=footer-block-one/div
  div id=footer-block-two/div
  div id=footer-contentCOPYRIGHT 2005 PATTERSON PRUDEN LLC - ALL 
RIGHTS RESERVED/div

/div

The first two divs are used to create the 'gradient' effect from dark to 
light gray and contains no images or text. The last DIV is the container 
for the actual text. The CSS that controls this area is:


#footer {
  background-color:#edecec;
  clear:both;
  padding:0;
  margin:0;
  width:778px;
  height:30px;
  overflow:hidden;
}
#footer-block-one {
  float:left;
  background-color:#999;
  margin:0;  width:100px;
  height:30px;
}
#footer-block-two {
  position:relative;
  left:100px;
  *left:-3px;
  background-color:#ccc;
  margin:0;  width:100px;
  height:30px;   }
#footer-content {
  position:relative;
  top:-22px;
  left:200px;
  margin:0;
  width:575px;
  height:30px;
  text-align:right;
  font-size:9px;
}

Now the two things in question. First, to get the #footer-content DIV to 
be aligned as I wanted I had to go to using top:-22px;, otherwise it 
would fall below the other two DIV even when floated right. This was the 
same for both Firefox and IE. Now in IE when I use the top:-22px, as 
well as before using this, it adds a roughly 15px to the height of the 
footer. To eliminate this I had to add overflow:hidden to the #footer 
DIV. Any explanation, pointers, tips regarding these will be much 
appreciated. Thanks!


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[css-d] Page draws twice in IE

2005-07-08 Thread Paul
Is this a CSS issue?

http://wales.nice-design.co.uk/thingstodo/mountainbiking/


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Re: [css-d] Safari/Mac Testing?

2005-07-08 Thread Jon Trelfa
On 7/7/05, saul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jon,
 
 There shouldn't be too many people out there using OS9 only. However,
 if they are, they have IE5.0 available, as well as Netscape, though
 which version escapes me (I haven't used OS9 in a couple of years -but
 it could be version 5).

Not to be pickybut Windoze users also have Firefox *available* but
choose not to obtain it  ;)

Anyway,  my safest bet is probably to test the following for Mac usage?:

IE for Mac
Safari a la Konqueror

While still continuing to test all the other browsers I'm already
utilizing, of course..

Thanks!

Jon
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Re: [css-d] CSS navigation needs some assistance

2005-07-08 Thread Paolo Candelari

- Original Message - 
From: saul [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello,

 I'm trying to create a CSS-driven top navigation to function and have
 two issues. The first is that the drop-down menu drops behind the main
 content.

 The page can be found here:

http://www.inventionshow.com/development/newProductScout/newProductScoutPage.html

Hello.

Add this to your css:

div#nav li {
 position: relative;
z-index: 500;
etc. etc. }

You have declared a value of 110 in z-index's #content and this move menu
items back relative to content.

But, most important, you have two error in your code, so validete it!

Remember, first rule before ask for help is to validate documents:

 The W3C Markup Validation Service

http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

HTH.

Paolo.

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Re: [css-d] problem with background image

2005-07-08 Thread Tom Livingston

Any thoughts?


Page has 33 validation errors, including something with the body...

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Re: [css-d] Safari/Mac Testing?

2005-07-08 Thread Ben Curtis


On Jul 7, 2005, at 7:08 PM, Jon Trelfa wrote:


I know that I can use Konqueror in Linux to test what websites will
look like in Safari...but it's my understanding that it only covers
more recent versions of Safari?  Do I assume that *most* Mac users
have OSX?  Is there a percentage still using OS9?  If so, what do I
use to test pages for them?  Do I test different versions of Safari as
I would different versions of IE and Netscape?  What versions would be
the most prevalent?


Any OS since OS X 10.1 can run Safari 1.3; since Safari is  
automatically updated via the OS Software Update, it's reasonable to  
assume the population of Safari 1.0-1.2 is only a few percent of the  
Mac OS X users. Safari 1.3 is functionally the same as Safari 2.0, in  
that they were released at the same time with the same CSS fixes.  
Safari 2.0 is available only to OS X 10.4, and comes pre-installed.  
Thus, a test that is equivalent to Safari 1.3 or 2.0 will roughly  
cover 95%+ of the Safari users.


Reasonably accurate:
http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/safari_css.html

People on OS 9 are likely stuck there. IE 5.2 was installed as the  
default browser, with Netscape 4.x also installed (IIRC). If your log  
analysis program breaks out IE versions, all of your IE 5.1x and 5.2x  
are likely to be Mac since Windows releases were 5.0x and 5.5; my  
estimates put 75-90% of the IE Mac use on OS 9, which on some of my  
sites amounts to 25% of the total Mac use. Gecko browsers for OS 9  
are hard to come by (and do not need to be considered): see http:// 
www.mozilla.org/download.html at the bottom of the page.


My Mac test regimen:
- Firefox 1.0.x (about 1.5% of the audience)
- Safari 2.0 (about 2% of the audience)
- IE 5.23 under Classic (about 1% of the audience)

That's it. Everything else is less than 0.5% of the audience, which  
my clients won't pay for; I must assume that my code is good enough  
to not break there. I will likely stop testing Mac IE next year,  
except for specific sites.


I cannot attest to your Konqueer-as-Safari-emulator statement. AFAIK,  
there is no emulator for Mac IE. It may be worth your time to buy a  
used Mac that has Mac Classic (OS 9) under OS X; otherwise, the Mini  
is cheap, but a new one will not have Classic installed.


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FW: [css-d] Help with overlap background image in IE

2005-07-08 Thread Thomas W. Bickle
Is anyone able to identify this problem, or recommend a solution?  I really
could use the help...

Thanks,

Tom

-Original Message-
All,

...this design is showing the middle's background peeking out from under
the bottom in IE.  

See this link in IE for what I mean.

http://www2.ulink.net/clients/ocat/

Why is the background seeping out like this, and how can I fix it??  All
advice is appreciated...

Tom


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Re: [css-d] Site Check and help with rounded corners

2005-07-08 Thread Stan Baptista
 I am also told that in I.E. the rounded corners are not showing up.
 
pseudo-selectors (:before, :after) are unsupported in IE so your technique for 
the top/bottom caps won't work in that browser.
 
Here's a CSS/JavaScript solution called NiftyCorners that works on multiple 
browsers: http://pro.html.it/esempio/nifty/.
 
However, to accommodate your quote png images (e.g., 
http://www.swmug.co.uk/images/bottom-right.png) would require some js/css 
fiddling if it could be done at all with this approach.
 
On the other hand, NiftyCorners seems fairly popular so perhaps someone else on 
this forum has already made the enhancements.

Stan
 

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Re: [css-d] Don't touch me! What is this (in FF!).

2005-07-08 Thread Gary Turner

Daniel Doesburg wrote:

Bob and Gary,

Thanks for your answer.

My problem was that on my PC the page in FF initially shows the pictures 
full.

But if I tried to change the window size they where shown as you saw.
The height was that of the word Bodytext.

My question/problem/challenge is:
I want to show a layer of 4 (or 6) pictures behind the text on the 
content part.

For maintenance reasons I can't use them as background.

Now I solved(?) it to position the content layer relative and the image 
layer absolute inside the content layer. (I know, the word layer is not 
correct but helps to explain)


What is your opinion about this?

What is the best construction.
1. div id=content  position: relative
 div id=pictures /div position: absolute
   /div

2. div id=wrapper position: relative
 div id=content /div position: relative/absolute
 div id=pictures /div position: relative/absolute
   /div



I think you're over-engineering things, Daniel.  Try this;

#bglayer {
position: relative;
width: ??  /* appropriate to images */
height: ?? /* same thing */
padding-right: 20px;  /* to allow for scrollbar if needed */
}

#textlayer {
position: absolute;
height: ??   /* same as above */
width: ??/* as above plus 20px for scrollbar */
top: 0;
left: 0;
overflow: auto;  /* needed with padding if there is chance text will
exceed height */
}
=
div id=bglayer
  img src=some.png alt= /  !-- images are inline --
  img src=some.png alt= /
  img src=some.png alt= /
  img src=some.png alt= /
  div id=textlayer
pyour text/p
  /div
/div

hth,

gary

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[css-d] Footnotes

2005-07-08 Thread Stephen R Laniel
I'd like to create CSS2 footnotes that

a) are easy for web developers to code,
b) are auto-numbered, and
c) only display a number surrounded by brackets most of the
   time, and
d) only display the footnote when you hover over the number.

By a), I mean that a developer would only have to do

span class=footnoteThis is the text that will appear when hovering./span

and it would behave as expected. The first .footnote on the
page would show only [1] until you hoveered, the second
would display [2], and so on.

Has this already been done?

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Re: [css-d] Footnotes

2005-07-08 Thread Christian Heilmann
 I'd like to create CSS2 footnotes that
 
 a) are easy for web developers to code,
 b) are auto-numbered, and
 c) only display a number surrounded by brackets most of the
time, and
 d) only display the footnote when you hover over the number.
 
 By a), I mean that a developer would only have to do
 
 span class=footnoteThis is the text that will appear when hovering./span
 
 and it would behave as expected. The first .footnote on the
 page would show only [1] until you hoveered, the second
 would display [2], and so on.
 
 Has this already been done?

How would you do the auto numbering in css2? css3, maybe, but css2?

In DOM and JavaScript that would be rather easy to do, as all you need
to do is loop through spans, check if one of their classes contain
footnote and replace them with the said number and a title containing
the original text. However, this makes your footnote dependent on a
mouse to make sense to a visual user (screen reader users will have to
have title reading turned on). Wouldn't it make more sense to have the
footnotes as real footnotes in the text with a target and the footnote
links as real links pointing to those targets? Then you can do the
beforementioned, too, but you are not dependent on  mouse and hover,
which can be very annoying to read and impossible to  copy.
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Re: [css-d] Using non-standard Fonts

2005-07-08 Thread Felix Miata
Ian Skinner wrote:
 
 I just installed a couple of unusual fonts that I want to use for a very 
 specific reason.  I realize that most users would not have these fonts, but 
 in this certain case, the users will have the fonts.
 
 Anyway I installed the following font files with the windows font widget: 
 InvArial.ttf and Revarial.ttf.  But when I tried to use the following HTML, 
 the alternate fonts did not display.  Is there something else I should be 
 using for the font names?
 
 p style=font-family: Arial;Fonts/p
 p style=font-family: Revarial;Fonts/p
 p style=font-family: InvArial;Fonts/p

I've never run across those two, but I suspect that those ttf files are
like most others, in that the font filename is not the same as the
font-family name. Open the control panel font folder, then open each
font, and for your style use the name it shows there, probably something
like revised arial or inverse arial or somesuch.

IIRC, after installing new fonts, you'll need to restart your browser
and/or your OS for it to find them.
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Re: [css-d] CSS Editor

2005-07-08 Thread Peggy Bart

Mendizabal wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good cheap(free) CSS editor? I like the way 
Dreamweaver has auto-complete/hint but I don't like firing it up just for 
that.



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I use HTML-Kit from www.chami.com.  They have a plug-in for CSS which 
works great for me.  It's free if you don't want the registered version.


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[css-d] IE Problems

2005-07-08 Thread Peggy Bart

This is my first time posting so please forgive for any impropriety.

I have redesigned an existing website using CSS which works in Mozilla 
except the drop-down menus don't disappear when you remove the cursor 
and unfortunately, it does not work well in IE.  Can anyone give me some 
advice, starting with my sidebar. I validated all my code and it all 
checks out. The website is: www.artasightproductions.com/new/main.html 
and the code is listed below for this page.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Peggy Bart

body {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt;
background: #80;
color: #9CBDEF;
text-align: center;
}
h1 {font-size: 250%;
 text-align: center;
}
h2 {font-size: 200%;}
h3 {font-size: 150%;}
h4 {font-size: 133%;}
h5 {font-size: 100%;}

div.maincontent {
 position: relative;
 top: 2em;
 margin: 0 0 0 300px;
   padding: 0;
   height: 500px;
}
div.smeye{
 top: 1px;
 width: 150px;
 text-align: center;
}
.smeye a img{
 border: none;
}
div.banner {
 margin: 0 0 2em 0;
 text-align: center;
}
div.genrepics {
 text-align: center;
}
div#counter {
 text-align: center;
}
div#mainlogo {
 margin: 5em; padding: 0;
 text-align: center;
}
/* begin footer */
div.footercontainer {
 margin: 0 0 0 300px;
   padding: 0;
}
div.footer {
 font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   display: inline;
   text-align: center;
}

.footer a:link {
   font-family:verdana, sans-serif;
   font-size:8pt;
   font-weight:bold;
   color:#9CBDEF;
   text-decoration : none;   
}

.footer a:visited {
   font-family:verdana, sans-serif;
   font-size:8pt;
   font-weight:bold;
   color:#9CBDEF;
   text-decoration : none;
}
.footer a:active {
   font-family:verdana, sans-serif;
   font-size:8pt;
   font-weight:bold;
   color:#9CA5F7;
   text-decoration : none;
}
.footer a:hover{
   font-family:verdana, sans-serif;
   font-size:8pt;
   font-weight:bold;
   color:#FFF;
   text-decoration : none;
}
/* begin calendar */

div.caltable {
   width: 100%;
 margin-left:auto;
   margin-right: auto;
}
table#calendar a {
 text-decoration: none;
}
tr#days th {
 width: 14%;
}
table#calendar tr#days th {
 color: white;
   background-color: #224;
 font-weight: bold;
   text-align: center;
 padding: 1px 0.33em;
}
table#calendar tr#title th {
 background: #0099ff;
   color: navy;
 border: 1px solid #242;
   font-size: 120%;
}
table#calendar td {
background: white;
   font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
   font-size: 10px;
   font-weight: bold;
   color: navy;
 vertical-align: top;
   padding: 0;
 border: 0px solid gray;
   border-width: 0 0 1px 1px;
   border-right: 1px solid gray;
}
table#calendar a {
 font-weight: bold;
   font-size: 10px;
   display: block;
   margin: 0;
}
table#calendar a:link {
 color: #6600ff;
   font-size: 10px;
}
table#calendar a:visited {
color: purple;
}
table#calendar a:hover {
color: #00C;
}
table#calendar td.may, table#calendar td.jul, table#calendar td.aug {
 background: #f0;
   color: navy;
}
table#calendar tr#lastweek td {
 border-bottom: 2px solid #AAB;
}
table#calendar td.holiday {
 background: #9CF;
 border-color: #BBB #FCC #FCC #BBB;
}
div.event {
 margin: 0.5em;
}
div.event span {
 display: block;
}
div.holiday {
 font-style: italic;
}
span.time {
 color: #ff;
 font-weight: bold;
}
div.date {
 float: right;
   text-align: center;
 border: 1px solid gray;
   border-width: 0 0 1px 1px;
   padding: 0.125em 0.25em 0 0.25em;
   margin: 0;
   background: #F3F3F3;}
span.loc {
 color: #0099ff;
   font-style: italic;
}
td.may div.date, td.jul div.date div.date td.aug {
 border-width: 0;
 color: gray;
   background: transparent;}

div#artistban {
 width: 231px;
   height: 89px;
   margin: 0 0 0 0;
   padding: 0;
   text-align: center;
   border: 1px dotted white;
}
/* begin artist tables */
div.arttable1 {
 width: 100%;
 margin-left: 0;
   margin-right: 0;
}
table#artist1 {
width: 50%;
   margin-left: auto;
   margin-right: auto;
}
table#artist1 td {
 font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
   font-size: 8pt;
   font-weight: bold;
   margin: 0 0 0 1px;
   text-align: center;
   background: #80;
}
table#artist1 td img{
 border: none;
}

div.arttable2 {
 width: 100%;
 margin-left: 0;
   margin-right: 0;
}
table#artist2 {
width: 50%;
   margin-left: auto;
   margin-right: auto;
}
table#artist2 td {
 font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
   font-size: 8pt;
   font-weight: bold;
   margin: 0 0 0 1px;
   text-align: center;
   background: #80;
}
table#artist2 td img{
 border: none;
}
div.tablinks1 {
 width: 100%;
 margin-left: 0;
   margin-right: 0;
}
table#links1 {
width: 50%;
   margin-left: auto;
   margin-right: auto;
}
table#links1 td {
 font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
   font-size: 8pt;
   font-weight: bold;
   margin: 0 0 0 1px;
   text-align: center;
   background: #80;
}
table#links1 td img{
 

Re: [css-d] CSS Editor

2005-07-08 Thread jeremy

for PC i use PSPad

For Mac i use BBEdit (which is not free) or NVU which is free.

I dontknow if this is what you are looking for.
Best.
-jeremy


Peggy Bart wrote:


Mendizabal wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good cheap(free) CSS editor? I like the way 
Dreamweaver has auto-complete/hint but I don't like firing it up just 
for that.



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I use HTML-Kit from www.chami.com.  They have a plug-in for CSS which 
works great for me.  It's free if you don't want the registered version.


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Re: [css-d] Safari/Mac Testing?

2005-07-08 Thread Steve Axthelm

At 22:08 on 2005/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Trelfa) wrote:

 I'm Mac-ignorant
 
 I know that I can use Konqueror in Linux to test what websites will
 look like in Safari...but it's my understanding that it only covers
 more recent versions of Safari?  Do I assume that *most* Mac users
 have OSX?  Is there a percentage still using OS9?  If so, what do I
 use to test pages for them?  Do I test different versions of Safari as
 I would different versions of IE and Netscape?  What versions would be
 the most prevalent?

Safari Versions:

1.03 (OS 10.2.8)
1.3  (OS 10.3.9)
2.x  (OS 10.4.x)

In my experience, the rendering differences are minor. I wouldn't bother 
testing on anything below 1.03. One of the Safari developers has a blog:

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/

with good information about Safari.

The latest version of IE for OS 9 is 5.1.7 and is most likely the browser of 
choice for OS 9 users. Some OS 9 users opt for Wamcom:

http://wamcom.org/

Which I believe is based on 1.3.x Mozilla, but that's a pretty small crowd at 
this point.

-Steve

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[ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: [css-d] CSS Editor

2005-07-08 Thread Alex Robinson

At 15:30 -0400 8/7/05, jeremy wrote:

for PC i use PSPad

For Mac i use BBEdit (which is not free) or NVU which is free.


OK, for anyone who did not bother to read my response to the original 
post yesterday (the first and only response until over 24 hours 
later), here it is again:





http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssEditors

[putting on moderator hat]

Seeing that this is
  a) holy war territory
  b) not relevant to discussions about the uses and application of css

that's all that needs to be said on the subject



My apologies to the 6000+ people who have unecessarily received the 
last couple of messages in this thread. The fault is mine since I 
should perhaps have spelt things out more clearly and not been so 
whimsical.


So here we go again.


Please do not continue this thread since it is not on topic.

However you can find a comprehensive list of editors that people on 
[css-d] use at:


  http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssEditors


If anyone does not understand why the subject of editors is off 
topic, can they please take it up with me off list rather than 
posting to the list.



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Re: [css-d] IE Problems

2005-07-08 Thread David Laakso

Peggy Bart wrote:


This is my first time posting so please forgive for any impropriety.
[...]
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Peggy Bart


Just a suggestion:
Dunno the answer to your question, Peggy-- but unless you have just a 
snippet there's no need to post  the code and hmtl. Put up a test page 
with the problem isolated and the CSS embedded, or just (as you have) 
provide a URI to the site-- most everyone has one device or another that 
enables them to view your code.

Regards,
David Laakso

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[css-d] In IE 6 my dropcap is not aligning correctly

2005-07-08 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I noticed on my home page of my personal web site
(http://www.inspired-evolution.com) my drop cap (the large I in
inspired) doesn't exactly fit in with the rest of the word in IE 6
(pc), that is it is too far to the right. In the browser I designed
the site for (Mozilla for Mac), it looks good and is positioned how I
want it.

Any suggestions on a IE 6 hack without messing up the positioning on
the good browsers?

URL: http://www.inspired-evolution.com
CSS:http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Gilbert.css

relavent CSS:

#main_content_home {
min-height: 625px;/* set here min height */
height: auto !important;/* overwrite the height */
height: 540px;/* this is also the min height for IE */
border:2px solid #069;
width:720px;
margin-left:1em;
margin-right:1em;
background: #fff url(/images/I2.gif) 11% 10% no-repeat ;
}
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Re: [css-d] How to add Unicode chars with CSS 'content' property?

2005-07-08 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 08/07/05, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Finding that inserting a Unicode entity (#8217;)  using the CSS
 'content'  property does not work, I converted HTML and CSS to UTF-8
 and used the actual character in the 'content' value.
 This seemed to work - until I looked on a Mac!

Use the **hex** code for css generated 'content'. For #8217; you should use:
{content: \2019; }

hth

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[css-d] Re: css-d Digest, Vol 32, Issue 12

2005-07-08 Thread richard
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Re: [css-d] In IE 6 my dropcap is not aligning correctly

2005-07-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Bruce Gilbert wrote:
I noticed on my home page of my personal web site 
(http://www.inspired-evolution.com) my drop cap (the large I in 
inspired) doesn't exactly fit in with the rest of the word in IE 6 
(pc), that is it is too far to the right. In the browser I designed 
the site for (Mozilla for Mac), it looks good and is positioned how I

 want it.

Any suggestions on a IE 6 hack without messing up the positioning on
 the good browsers?


It's already messed up in the good browsers - all of them. Try text-zoom
in your preferred browser...

You're gambling with font-size and em-based margins and what not -
relative to a percentage-positioned background for the whole area. That
paragraph is living its own life, and just happens to line up with the
I in the background - at some font-sizes - in some browsers.

If you want to use a background-image as drop cap, then you should set
it as background on the paragraph itself. That should make it line up
perfectly stable across browser-land.

In addition: .hide {display:none;} will make some (if not most) screen
readers hide it completely, so some off-screen positioning should be
used instead if you want that paragraph to make any sense in those.

regards
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[css-d] safari/mac testing

2005-07-08 Thread Jeanne Prine
Hi Jon,

You can view your site on Safari at
http://www.danvine.com/icapture for free.
Available versions are Safari 1.2 and 1.1.1
running on OS 10.3.1.  You can use IE 5.2.3 on
OS 10.3.1 there as well.

For what it's worth, my experience has been
that Konqueror and Safari won't render everything
exactly the same--particularly background images
with no-repeat.

Browsercam lets you view your site in Konqueror
on RH 8.0 as well as Safari--but it's not free.
Worth every penny for me so far.

Hope this helps.
Jeanne
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Re: [css-d] How to add Unicode chars with CSS 'content' property?

2005-07-08 Thread Kelly Miller

David Hucklesby wrote:


That clobbered the first rule(s) in Opera.
 

I just wanted to mention that if a browser (9 out of 10 times it'll be 
Opera; I dunno why) ignores the first rule in your CSS file, you can 
dodge it by putting this as the first rule:


html   {}

Okay, that IS rather obvious...but it works!

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Re: [css-d] Footnotes

2005-07-08 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh


On 9 Jul 2005, at 3:42 am, T. R. Valentine wrote:


http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#counter

In Windoze, only Opera (AFAIK) supports counters. IE, Firefox, Mozilla 
do not.


Deerpark alpha (developers preview for Firefox 1.1) does support 
counters as well.



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