Re: [css-d] testing hand held style sheets

2005-09-08 Thread david

wendy wrote:

Other than  using opera can anyone suggest a PDF emulator I could download
to test a hand held device stylesheet for a site? also does anyone know
whether most hand held devices have javascript enabled or not?
ta Wendy


You can see if you can track down a copy of POSE (the Palm OS Emulator) 
that used to be available. Might still be around and usable, and might 
be able to run a Palm web browser ...


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[css-d] Different hover on IE and Firefox

2005-09-08 Thread Mikko Levänen

*Hello*

Please take a look at www.savonmaa.com http://www.savonmaa.com

Can someone tell me why the display-block does not work on IE when I 
hover over left navigation?


 On Firefox (Win and Mac) it shows hover effect when You move cursor 
anuwhere on the link block


 On IE (Windows) You have to put the cursor on the the actual text of 
link before hover effect shows.



Any ideas? This is propably a very tiny thing but i cannot find it out...

This is my CSS:

body {
font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
}


form, div, p, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

td, th, p, div, span {
font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px
}

.listEntry {
margin-bottom: 10px;
color: red;
}

p {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color: black;
text-align: left;
font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px;
line-height: 16px;
}

a, a:link, a:visited, a:hover, a:active{
color: #0066CC;
text-decoration: none;
}

.navList a, .navList a:link, .navList a:visited {
display: block;
color: white;
text-decoration: none;
border-bottom: 1px solid white;
}

.navList a:hover{
display: block;
color: navy;
background-image: url(http://62.78.102.35/~savonmaa/SM_images/white.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 0 .5em;
background-color: #66ccff;
text-decoration: none;
}

.articleText {
text-align: left;
font-size: 12px;
line-height: 14px;
}


.articleLinkInternal {
color: green;
font-size: 10px;
}

.image_caption {
padding: 5px;
text-align: left;
color: #00;
font-size: 9px;
line-height: 10px;
border-top: 3px solid white;
border-bottom: 1px solid #0066CC;
}


.image_td {
border: 1px solid #0066CC;
}

.articleCode {
margin-bottom: 3px;
font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;
font-size: 12px;
}

h1, h2, h3 {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color: #0066cc;
}

h4, h5, h6 {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color: black;
text-align: left;
font-weight: normal;
font-stretch: expanded;
font-size: 11px;
line-height: 13px;
}

.articleSummary {
font-family: Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
color: #00;
line-height: 135%;
}

.v09 { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 
9px; }
.v10 { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 
10px; }

.v11 {
font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
background-color: navy;
}
.v12 { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 
12px; }
.v13 { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 
13px; }
.v14 { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 
14px; }



/*

.formButton { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; color: #FF; background-color: 
#92A1AF; }


.formLabel { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 10px; }


.checkLabel { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold;}
.radioLabel { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold;}


.formTextArea { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 11px; }
.inputText { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold;}
.inputPass { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold;}
.selectMenu { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold;}
.selectList { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold;}

*/

/* search */
.formSearch { font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; 
font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold;}


.search_form {}
.search_result {}


.postbody { font-size: 12px; color : #00; margin: 0 0 3px 0; 
padding: 0 }

.postbody a, .postbody a:link, .postbody a:active, .postbody a:visited {
text-decoration: none; color : #0066cc;
}
.postbody a:hover { text-decoration: underline; color : #DD6900; }


#teaserTable {

}

#teaserTableLeftCell {border:0px; padding:4px;}
#teaserTableRightCell {border-left:1px dotted #0066CC; padding:4px;}

#teaserPageNav {
display: block;
color: green;
text-decoration: none;
}

#teaserPageNavItems {
display: block;
color: green;
text-decoration: none;
}


.MenuItem_lvl_1 {
display: block;
text-indent: 15px;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: left;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
line-height: 23px;
padding-left: 0em;
background-image: url(http://62.78.102.35/~savonmaa/SM_images/yellow.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 0 .5em;
}


.MenuItem_lvl_2 {
display: block;
text-indent: 15px;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: left;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
line-height: 23px;
padding-left: 0px;
}


.navList {
width: 98%;
border-top: 1px solid white;
padding-top: 0px;
display: block;
}


#activeSection {
border-bottom: 2px solid #ffcc00;
}



[css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Jørgen Farum Jensen

I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.

I wish to format the link with the :focus pseudo class, and the 
browser-generated border tends to destroy the design effect I want.


Is there any way to suppress this effect?

Best regards
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http://www.webdesign101.dk

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Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Christian Heilmann
 I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.
 
 I wish to format the link with the :focus pseudo class, and the
 browser-generated border tends to destroy the design effect I want.
 
 Is there any way to suppress this effect?

No, except for JavaScript, and that defeats is purpose. The ugly
dotted borders do help a lot of users.

The archives have a say on that, too: 
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/33258
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[css-d] Absolute positioned columns and scrolling

2005-09-08 Thread Damian Watson

Hi all,

I've got a layout that uses two absolute positioned column (left/right) 
with a centre column that's relative to the page and left/right margins 
to reflect the width of those columns.


My problem is that when the two outside columns are longer than the 
centre content and viewport, then I get no scrolling. Therefore, I lose 
some content in the outside columns.


i.e:

|---|||
|left col   |center col with small height  |   right col   |
| | --- |  |
| |  
|  |
| |  
|  |


- bottom of viewport  with no scrollbar 



||   
|  |

||   |_|


Anyone know a fix?

Thanks,
Damian
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Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Anders Ringqvist
That is out of scope for you to play with, it 'belongs' to the UA. It´s 
a 'feature' most UA vendors have choosen to implement. You can use 
JavaScript to blur-on-focus but then the element is not in focus and the 
user can´t activate it with keyboard for example. Sorry, cant have the 
cake and eat it at the same time. If design is more important then 
usability. Use the JavaScript solution. If it´s the other way around 
dont do anything.


Probably it´s only you who is concerned about it cause you are 'home 
blind' =) Your users will not 'see' it the same way you 'see' it. They 
may even fancy it.


Discussions about this subject often tend to be like the 
'should-I-style-form-controls-or-not'-discussions so don´t be surprised 
if this thread will turn into Jihad soon =)))


Regards,
Anders Ringqvist

Jørgen Farum Jensen wrote:


I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.

I wish to format the link with the :focus pseudo class, and the 
browser-generated border tends to destroy the design effect I want.


Is there any way to suppress this effect?

Best regards
Jørgen Farum Jensen
http://www.webdesign101.dk

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[css-d] css for print make my page hugly

2005-09-08 Thread Fabrice Mangault

I can't manage to make a proper css for print

under ie6 i must select landscape in the printing preferencies to have 
all the text or it's cutted on the right edge.
On the landscape setup it prints ok, but the line at the bottom of page 
2 is splitted on page 2 and page 3


under firefox i just have one buggy page  (whathever i do : select 
shrink to fit, portrait or landscape it is still buggy)


on builder they're talking about removing floats to make it work under 
ff but my floats aren't there!
http://www.builderau.com.au/program/soa/Tips_for_creating_CSS_styles_for_print/0,39024614,39130330-2,00.htm 
http://www.webmasterworld.com/ra.cgi?f=d=url=http://www.builderau.com.au/program/soa/Tips_for_creating_CSS_styles_for_print/0,39024614,39130330-2,00.htm 



here is my test page http://www.curie.fr/tampon/test.cfm 
http://www.webmasterworld.com/ra.cgi?f=d=url=http://www.curie.fr/tampon/test.cfm 



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[css-d] Flashing in firefox ion resize

2005-09-08 Thread ross
When I resize my page in firefox I get some flashing in the top left.

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/test.php


http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/nhs.css

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/menu.css


I thnik this is caused by the DIV overflows.. Does anyone know how to fix 
this?? It looks like a browser bug...possibly!


R.
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Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Jørgen Farum Jensen

Christian Heilmann wrote:

I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.




No, except for JavaScript, and that defeats is purpose. The ugly
dotted borders do help a lot of users.



Thanks for the answers.

My point was that I wanted to provide a clearer indication of the
element in focus that I feel the dotted borders provide. I have
no wish to use the Javascript method, since it detracts from the
accessibility of the web page.

Best regards
Jørgen Farum Jensen
www.webdesign101.dk


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Re: [css-d] Absolute positioned columns and scrolling

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 8, 2005, 9:02:19 AM, Damian Watson wrote:
 I've got a layout that uses two absolute positioned column (left/right)
 with a centre column that's relative to the page and left/right margins 
 to reflect the width of those columns.
 My problem is that when the two outside columns are longer than the
 centre content and viewport, then I get no scrolling.

In what browser(s)/OS(s)?

Guessing, it sounds like a documented IE/win bug:
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/unscrollable.html 

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[css-d] site check layout - LiceControl

2005-09-08 Thread Adam Helweh

Good morning,

I just started coding this layout and I wanted some people with various 
browsers to take a peek at the layout. I have checked it in WIN FF and 
WIN IE 6 and all looks perfect. Please take a gander and let me know if 
you see otherwise. Especially Opera and Mac users.


Thanks

http://www.lice-control.com/layout.htm


Css here:  http://www.lice-control.com/styles/layout_style.css

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RE: [css-d] h1 border not displayed in IE (SOLVED)

2005-09-08 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
 From: Ingo Chao
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:46 AM
 
 Glenn E. Lanier, II wrote:
  http://bellsouthpwp.net/S/p/Speedy7/HeaderTrouble.html
 
 The container needs some layout [1], i.e.
 div#divTitle {width: 100%}

Ingo,

Thanks. I've tried several different things and was beating my head against
the wall -- this fixed it (along with several other similar problems in other
divs).
 
 [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html#prop

Thanks for the link.

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Re: [css-d] site check layout - LiceControl

2005-09-08 Thread Eric Shepherd
I don't see any problems in Opera that aren't in Firefox. Your drop
shadows aren't quite working consistently, which you probably already
know (specifically, the right side, badge bottom area and all along
the right edge of the document). Your grays are two different colors,
giving you a line under the badge, which I don't know whether you
intended. Also, you might want to declare a body background color of
white; my browser defaults to a very light gray, and I can see the
edges of your white container box.

Otherwise, looks good; nice graphic design.

Cheers.

On 9/8/05, Adam Helweh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good morning,
 
 I just started coding this layout and I wanted some people with various
 browsers to take a peek at the layout. I have checked it in WIN FF and
 WIN IE 6 and all looks perfect. Please take a gander and let me know if
 you see otherwise. Especially Opera and Mac users.
 
 Thanks
 
 http://www.lice-control.com/layout.htm
 
 
 Css here:  http://www.lice-control.com/styles/layout_style.css
 
 Adam
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[css-d] Request help with nitpicky problems before deployment

2005-09-08 Thread Mann, Lydia
I've posted once before about a problem with this site with hover images and
got spot-on help from Ingo Chao (thank-you Mr. Chao). Now I've reached the
end of the design phase and am about to turn it over for CMS templating and
would appreciate help on the final preparation. The files validate as much
as possible, that is, there are known problems with an offsite link that
can't be changed and some CSS hacks but the code I wrote appears to be okay.

Here is a link to the markup
(http://www.lydiamann.com/TBMA_files/benefits.shtml), the CSS
(http://www.lydiamann.com/TBMA_files/scripts/adminonline.css), and a list of
unresolved issues:

1) Win IE only: When I hover over any of the links in the main content area
(i.e. Healthcare Coverage, Retirement Benefits etc.) I lose part of the
left bar and navigation that returns when another area is scrolled over. The
Chao-fix (re-naming the a:hover to re-set IE) doesn't seem to apply since
there isn't any background element concerned.

2) Win IE only: The links on the top left (the ones that look like folder
tabs) do a little jiggle dance onhover and I can't find a workaround. I've
changed the height of the list elements and the anchors within those list
elements to no effect. For the time being I'm calling this a *feature.*

3) All browsers: I can't remember how to make the top-level navigation hover
color *hold* on rollover of the pop-out menu (see folder-tabs for example).
My programmer can fix this at runtime, but I am wondering if there is
something I can do now.

I thank you in advance for specific help you can offer.

Lydia Mann
Senior Web Designer
The Bond Market Association
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Re: [css-d] site check layout - LiceControl

2005-09-08 Thread David Laakso

Adam Helweh wrote:

I just started coding this layout and I wanted some people with 
various browsers to take a peek at the layout. I have checked it in 
WIN FF and WIN IE 6 and all looks perfect. Please take a gander and 
let me know if you see otherwise. Especially Opera and Mac users.

http://www.lice-control.com/layout.htm
Css here:  http://www.lice-control.com/styles/layout_style.css
Adam


You may want to adjust the width to account for the scroll bar at 800.
Screen captures:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=189424
Regards,
David Laakso


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[css-d] Lice control Layout - Shadow graphic help

2005-09-08 Thread fokuss

Hello Everyone,
Thanks for checking out my layout and providing feedback. It looks like 
one of my biggest issues is similiar to what I was dealing with when 
coding last night. The drop shadow on the sides some areas are worse 
than others) or becoming irregular and jagged rather than smooth and 
one piece. I would assume taking a 1 pixel horizontal image and 
repeating it would be fine. Has any one had this experience or know the 
best way to relieve it? I thought the shadows are one solid tone and 
should tile fine when cutting a sliver?


http://www.lice-control.com/layout.htm

Css here:  http://www.lice-control.com/styles/layout_style.css

thanks for the previous help and thanks in advance for any additional.

Adam
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[css-d] IE 5.2 Mac not showing styles

2005-09-08 Thread Keith Burgin

Hi folks.

http://www.outdoorimage.net

Im working on a new business site, and am having problems with IE 5.2 
on Mac.  I've looked numberous places for solutions, but have either 
glossed over something obvious, or haven't run across it yet.


Problem is that IE 5.2 does not act on most of my styles.  I say most, 
because #topmastContent is clearly centered in #topmast and would not be 
 if all styles were ignored.  However, beyond that and the logo 
styling, everything just goes to hell in a handbasket.


Can someone take a look at this for me please?  Links go nowhere.  Nav 
is just there for right now.


Site validates XHTML trans, and CSS.  I'm working on Mac OS X Tiger - 
Safari and Firefox look fine.



Thanks -


Keith Burgin
www.burgindesign.com
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[css-d] navbar problem

2005-09-08 Thread Scot Schlinger
Hi all,

I have a navbar that I wish to change the background color and drop the 
bottom border when the given page is active. I have done this but when I 
make those small changes to the last list item (link) in the navbar, the 
text that is below the navbar is mis-aligned in ff 1.0.6 win but appears the 
way I would like it in ie 6.x (I am sure ie is showing it incorrectly even 
though that is what I want).

page without changes: http://www.rell.com/tst/index.html
page with changes: http://www.rell.com/tst/index1.html

The css is in the page as the project is just getting started, but I am 
using the following to control the last list item:
#navlist li a.last {
border-width: 1px 0;
}

#navlist li a.last1 {
border-width: 1px 0 0;
background-color: #339;
color: #cc3;
}

Thank you for you time and consideration,
Scot
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[css-d] Flash content in a print style sheet

2005-09-08 Thread Erwin Heiser
Hi all,

A pretty basic question:
I¹m writing a print stylesheet for a page that holds a simple 3-photo Flash
slideshow.
Is there any way of having 1 of the 3 photo¹s show up in my
print-stylesheet?
Thanks in advance,

Erwin Heiser
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RE: [css-d] Flash content in a print style sheet

2005-09-08 Thread Ian Skinner
From a CSS discussion list?

Hide the flash container {display: none} and show a container that links to the 
desired image with a standard img tag, {display: inline|block}.

For how Flash could help one with this, one would need to address this on some 
kind of Flash forum.


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Re: [css-d] IE 5.2 Mac not showing styles

2005-09-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Keith Burgin wrote:


http://www.outdoorimage.net



Problem is that IE 5.2 does not act on most of my styles.


IE/Mac is reacting, but not as you expect.

The following corrects it in my IE5.2.3

#topmastContent {
text-align: left;
margin: 0 auto;
border-right: 1px #FF solid;
border-left: 1px #FF solid;
width: 750px;
position: relative; -- delete, or hide this from IE/Mac.
}

#top {
float: right;
background-color: #426208;
/*\*//*/
width: 9.5em; !-- IE/Mac need a width here.
/**/
}

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Re: [css-d] Glitch in IE/Mac Site Check

2005-09-08 Thread Juanita
Roger Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, September 07, 2005
at 5:37 PM -0800 wrote:
Juanita,

On Sep 6, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Juanita wrote:

 Hi -

 I have the makings of a small site which seems to work well in the 
 latest
 browser (FF, Opera, Netscape 7 IE) if anyone has earlier browser and 
 can
 let me know if it's really out of wack that would be great.

 If there are any Mac users, the site looks as it should in Safari, but 
 is
 not working in IE - any ideas why the content is shifted and/or how to 
 fix
 it?

 The site  css links :

 http://www.kcsm.org/voicesofcsm.htm
 http://www.kcsm.org/catalog/voicesofcsm/voices.css

Add a width to #nav ul (8em to 10em should work nicely).  IE/mac 
(following the css 2.0 spec) r


Thanks Roger -

That worked - now my columns are where they should be in Mac/IE.

Juanita


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Re: [css-d] IE 5.2 Mac not showing styles

2005-09-08 Thread David Laakso

Keith Burgin wrote:


http://www.outdoorimage.net
Im working on a new business site, and am having problems with IE 5.2 
on Mac.  I've looked numberous places for solutions, but have either 
glossed over something obvious, or haven't run across it yet.
Site validates XHTML trans, and CSS.  I'm working on Mac OS X Tiger - 
Safari and Firefox look fine.

Keith Burgin
www.burgindesign.com


You did not mention XP, so if you are aware of  these things  please 
ignore my comments:
There is a lateral shift on font zoom (draws scroll bar) and early 
breaking of the h-nav in FF.
I found the content text easier to read (for me) by deleting the 
font-size on .right p; and tweaking .right h2.

The vertical menu needs a little TLC in all versions of win/IE.
Screen captures:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=189469
It is a very nice looking page.
Regards,
David Laakso


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[css-d] Firefox/IE Difference in Positioning

2005-09-08 Thread Mr. Kim Siever
Hi all,

I am working on the following website.

http://www.uleth.ca/asac/

In Firefox, the Banff 2006 logo is where I want it to be. in IE6, it
is 20px closer to the top. Anyone know what I've done wrong?

CSS: http://www.uleth.ca/man/research/asac/css/mainpage.css

Thanks
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[css-d] How to move content area to the top of this floated layout?

2005-09-08 Thread Scott Blanchard
Is it possible to change the order of this float layout so that the content
area comes before the sidebars??? Without resorting to absolute positioning?

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html
head

!-- INLINE STYLES GO HERE. MOVE TO EXTERNAL CSS WHEN DONE
--
style type=text/css
body {margin:0 auto;padding:0;font-family:verdana,tahoma;
font-size:80%; width:777px; text-align:center}
.x8Form {background:#cc9; width:777px; text-align:left}
.header {height:100px; background:#c00; color:#fff}
.leftSidebar {background:#cc9; width:200px; float:left; }
.rightSidebar {width:200px; float:right}
.content {background:#fff; min-height:300px; margin:0 200px;
padding:10px}
.footer {background:#000; color:#fff}
/style

/head

body
form id=x8Form class=x8Form method=post
runat=server
!-- LAYOUT GOES HERE--

div class=headerHeader goes here/div
div class=leftSidebarLeft Sidebar/div
div class=rightSidebarRight Sidebar/div
div class=contentContent Area here./div
div class=footerFooter here/div

/form
/body

/html

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[css-d] Lateral backgrounds on fluid layout

2005-09-08 Thread Valentin Agachi

Hello, everyone!

I can't figure a way out of how can I add two repeat-y lateral external 
image backgrounds to a fluid layout.


To better describe the problem:
Take a fluid layout of say 70% max-width. On each side, on the outside 
of the container (which has the 70% max width) I want two apply 
different backgrounds, but which stick to thier side when the browser is 
resized (meaning the left one has its right margin clued to the left 
margin of the layout, and the right one has its left margin glued to the 
right margin of the layout). You may think of it like faux columns on a 
fluid layout (but not to the content but to the outside of the layout).


Does anyone have any idea on how can this be achieved ?

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[css-d] Bizarre timing bug with IE6, list styles

2005-09-08 Thread John Handelaar

Well, this has us stumped.

To replicate:

a)  Go to this development site with IE6:  http://pyl.userfrenzy.com
b)  Follow a link to another page
c)  Push the 'back' button


At either point A or point C, you'll see IE inserting default
list styling bullets into the left hand navigation, but not all
the time.

Does anyone have *any* clue what's going on here?  I mean,
obviously it's that fscking browser and yet another bug, but
it's not one I can find by trawling archives or fix by applying
the usual hacks.

Assistance much appreciated -- more 'suck it and see' guesses than
we've already thrown at it for three days, on the other hand, will
probably just waste more time than it's already burned through.

XHTML and CSS validate, incidentally.


TIA

jh
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[css-d] site check

2005-09-08 Thread lilly
Please comment on
  http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.html
 and
  http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.html

with css at
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.css
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.css
and
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/baisabe.css

Both pages are sized entirely with ems, with only the font
size specified in pixels. Are there any downsides to this
approach?

Thanks!

 Lilly
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RE: [css-d] Lateral backgrounds on fluid layout

2005-09-08 Thread CJ Larson
The method I've seen spoken of is to have two separate divs; one for
the left graphic, one for the right graphic.  Each div would take the
whole screen.

For example -

#left-graphic {
background-image: url();
background-repeat: repeat-y;
background-position: left-top;
height: 100%;
width: 100%;
}
#right-graphic {
background-image: url();
background-repeat: repeat-y;
background-position: right top;
height: 100%;
width: 100%;}

div id=left-graphic
div id=right-graphic
~~ all other content ~~
/div
/div

-Original Message-
I can't figure a way out of how can I add two repeat-y lateral external 
image backgrounds to a fluid layout.
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Re: [css-d] Lateral backgrounds on fluid layout

2005-09-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Valentin Agachi wrote:


I can't figure a way out of how can I add two repeat-y lateral
external image backgrounds to a fluid layout.


You need two 'containers' wrapped inside each other, as you can only
have one background-image on each. CSS3 may solve that-- one day.

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Re: [css-d] Firefox/IE Difference in Positioning

2005-09-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Mr. Kim Siever wrote:


http://www.uleth.ca/asac/

In Firefox, the Banff 2006 logo is where I want it to be. in IE6, it
 is 20px closer to the top. Anyone know what I've done wrong?


You've forgotten about default margins, which are not identical across
browser-land.

Try:
h1 {margin: 20px 0 0 0;}
...or some other value.

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Re: [css-d] site check

2005-09-08 Thread David Laakso

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please comment on
 http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.html
and
 http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.html

with css at
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.css
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.css
and
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/baisabe.css

Both pages are sized entirely with ems, with only the font
size specified in pixels. Are there any downsides to this
approach?

Thanks!

Lilly

 


Lilly,
I do not believe the page(s) is working for you the way you intend.
If  I can assist you in attempting a CSS layout (assuming you do not 
need it yesterday) that will work relatively well cross-browser, please 
contact me off-list.

Regards,
David Laakso


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Re: [css-d] site check

2005-09-08 Thread David Laakso

David Laakso wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please comment on
 http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.html
and
 http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.html

with css at
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.css
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.css
and
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/baisabe.css

Both pages are sized entirely with ems, with only the font
size specified in pixels. Are there any downsides to this
approach?

Thanks!

Lilly

 


Lilly,
I do not believe the page(s) is working for you the way you intend.
If  I can assist you in attempting a CSS layout (assuming you do not 
need it yesterday) that will work relatively well cross-browser, 
please contact me off-list.

Regards,
David Laakso


Whoops. Sorry. Landed and looking at table based page(s). Please see 
Felix's comment.

Regards,
David Laakso



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[css-d] wrapping text around images

2005-09-08 Thread BJ
I would like to create a do it yourself page that has an image 
(possibly tw=o=20or three) per sentence/short paragraph with multiple 
sentences/short=20 paragraphs per page. I would also like the text to 
start at the top of the==20 image(s), possibly 1em give or take to the 
left. I can get this to work in==20tables (yuck) but can't seem to do it 
in css.


Try pixy's photocard method, and you can even add captions:
http://wellstyled.com/css-photo-cards.html


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Re: [css-d] IE 5.2 Mac not showing styles

2005-09-08 Thread Keith Burgin

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


IE/Mac is reacting, but not as you expect.

The following corrects it in my IE5.2.3



Thank you, but on my live version, this still does not correct the 
problem.  I tried both ideas, together, and each by themselves - no 
result.  On my local hard drive, the site shows perfectly.


Only when it goes live does it have a problem.



Thanks again.


Keith


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Re: [css-d] site check

2005-09-08 Thread tedd

Please comment on
  http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.html
 and
  http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.html

with css at
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/tefillah.css
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/kitchen.css
and
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/baisabe.d/baisabe.css

Both pages are sized entirely with ems, with only the font
size specified in pixels. Are there any downsides to this
approach?

Thanks!

 Lilly


Lilly:

I use em's all the time, it's my favorite choice of measurement. 
Plus, it works (i.e., keeps same relative position) for all zoom 
levels if you tie your images to them.


However, for consistency, I would suggest that you use .875 em 
instead of 14 px in your font size. To convert from pixels to em's, 
just divide by 16. Check out:


http://www.webbytedd.com/examples/text-zoom/

HTH's.

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Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Uwe Kaiser

On 08.09.2005 14:34, Jørgen Farum Jensen wrote:

I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.

I wish to format the link with the :focus pseudo class, and the 
browser-generated border tends to destroy the design effect I want.


Is there any way to suppress this effect?



We have had this topic of discussion about four weeks ago.
 http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/61474 

For MSIE, there is another way to style the dotted border,
but I just can't remember how.



Regards,

Uwe Kaiser


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[css-d] input type=text and css

2005-09-08 Thread Rutgers
I am building an expense form with each expense item contained in a table
cell.

I would like to set the table width to 100% (done) and each table cell to
specified percentage width that adds up to the 100%.

My question:

I can't used % to set the width of the input type=text / to the same
percentage as it then only occupies a percentage of the cell.  I can set a
fixed width, but that defeats the liquid layout.

Is there a way to get the width of the input match the width of the table
cell without used fixed widths?

Thank you,

ian
 


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Re: [css-d] IE 5.2 Mac not showing styles

2005-09-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Keith Burgin wrote:

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


IE/Mac is reacting, but not as you expect.

The following corrects it in my IE5.2.3


Thank you, but on my live version, this still does not correct the 
problem.  I tried both ideas, together, and each by themselves - no 
result.  On my local hard drive, the site shows perfectly.



Only when it goes live does it have a problem.


Your live version comes through fine in IE/Mac at my end. Pretty much
the same as in Safari and Firefox. Only the #top ul is still out of
place - adding a green line on top.

Not sure what your problems are. Maybe the cache in IE/Mac is holding
some old stuff?

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RE: [css-d] Bizarre timing bug with IE6, list styles

2005-09-08 Thread Support Team
Hi John,

First of all, could you please tell which way you want the left navigation
list presented (with list styles or not).

I personally wouldn't put bullets there but either way your code says two
different things. 

According to your structure, you've got

div class=menu
li class=collapsed
Your navigation

Your .menu ul says no styles and li.collapsed has bullets. I think IE is
getting confused with that. Perhaps you can put !important statement
depending on what you want to achieve. 

Hope that helps.

Regards, 
Cem Meric

Kalkadoon
Corporate Solutions


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Handelaar
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2005 5:56 AM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Bizarre timing bug with IE6, list styles

Well, this has us stumped.

To replicate:

a)  Go to this development site with IE6:  http://pyl.userfrenzy.com
b)  Follow a link to another page
c)  Push the 'back' button


At either point A or point C, you'll see IE inserting default
list styling bullets into the left hand navigation, but not all
the time.

Does anyone have *any* clue what's going on here?  I mean,
obviously it's that fscking browser and yet another bug, but
it's not one I can find by trawling archives or fix by applying
the usual hacks.

Assistance much appreciated -- more 'suck it and see' guesses than
we've already thrown at it for three days, on the other hand, will
probably just waste more time than it's already burned through.

XHTML and CSS validate, incidentally.


TIA

jh
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Re: [css-d] input type=text and css

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 8, 2005, 7:09:44 PM, Rutgers wrote:
 I would like to set the table width to 100% (done) and each table cell to
 specified percentage width that adds up to the 100%.

No need to set the width of the cells since each will contain the same
sized element.

 I can't used % to set the width of the input type=text / to the same
 percentage as it then only occupies a percentage of the cell.

So set each INPUT to width:100%.  I would also use a border on the table
cells and remove the border from the INPUTs, this will look a bit more nice
(but maybe not appear as editable, though the user should get the edit
cursor when mousing over).  See: http://mrclay.org/tests/spreadsheet.html

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[css-d] Screenshots

2005-09-08 Thread Scott Haneda
I found a site once that would allow you to put in a url and it would
generate a screenshot in one of a few browsers.  I think Windows Explorer
was not listed.  Anyone know of such a service, I no longer have access to
windows and want to take a peek at a site I just did.
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RE: [css-d] Screenshots

2005-09-08 Thread Tatham Oddie \(Fuel Advance\)
Scott,

www.browsercam.com


Thanks,

Tatham Oddie
Fuel Advance - Ignite Your Idea
www.fueladvance.com


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Sent: Friday, 9 September 2005 12:25 PM
To: CSS
Subject: [css-d] Screenshots

I found a site once that would allow you to put in a url and it would
generate a screenshot in one of a few browsers.  I think Windows Explorer
was not listed.  Anyone know of such a service, I no longer have access to
windows and want to take a peek at a site I just did.
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[css-d] Firefox (?) hover problems

2005-09-08 Thread ugo pozo
Hello everyone,

take a look at the following site:

http://www.cityofdis.org/signo

It's obviously not complete, but there's one thing about the main menu
that's bugging me.
I have put a paragraph inside each list item to act as a description
layer that should appear on hover. It works under IE6 (using
behaviors) and Opera, but it's breaking under FF.

I always tend to consider Firefox as the correct one, but in this case
i can't. The problem is that when you hover over the paragraph itself
Firefox makes it disappear, while IE and Opera don't. Since the
paragraph is semantically *inside* the list item, shouldn't it
activate its own visibility when hovered?

I have made another site that has the same semantic markup (a block
item inside a list item to be showed on hover,
http://www.flashbaloes.com.br) in the drop down menu, and it behaves
correctly under FF. Why isn't it working in this case?


Thanks in advance!


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Re: [css-d] Screenshots

2005-09-08 Thread matt andrews
On 09/09/05, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found a site once that would allow you to put in a url and it would
 generate a screenshot in one of a few browsers.  I think Windows Explorer
 was not listed.  Anyone know of such a service, I no longer have access to
 windows and want to take a peek at a site I just did.

This is a well-executed, free service (faster if you donate, though):

http://browsershots.org/
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