Re: [css-d] IE linking issues

2006-05-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Bill Brown wrote:

 Internet Explorer has incomplete support for multiple dynamic pseudo
 selectors like :hover and :active (which is not supported at all).
 Therefore, IE will onyl recognize the last one in the chain. For example,
 you apply :link:hover and :visited:hover, but IE only only sees :hover on
 both, so whichever one comes last in the coding is the one that Internet
 Explorer will apply. I believe this is true for both PC and Mac
 environments.

I did not test it extensively, but I thought IE/Mac correctly chains 
pseudo-classes? (testcase in [1])

 To my knowledge, there is no known CSS based work-around.
IE/Win 7 cannot do this, and it looks like it is fixed in IE7b2.


Ingo


[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/pseudocss.html#chain-class-class


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[css-d] Center Div Vertically and Horizontally

2006-05-08 Thread TMH Design
I have a splash page for which I want to have a div that is sized 760px wide
by 410px high and regardless of screen resolution is always centered both
vertically and horizontally. Can someone please show me how to do this?
Thanks so much. Tom

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Re: [css-d] I'm trying to link to a pdf file.

2006-05-08 Thread David Hucklesby
On Sun, 7 May 2006 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Roane wrote:
 
 I'm trying to create a link to a .pdf file (on my server) and I'm 
having trouble. 
 [snipped code]
 Everything is up on the server (in a dir. called pdf), but I have it 
 set up the same on my local host and everytime I click on the link ... 
 nothing but a blank page comes up.
 
 www.allgooddogspetcare.com/agd06/news.html
 

Hi Patrick,

I checked out the Winter 2004 link on that page and I get the PDF right 
away. Are you saying it does not work locally? 

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] I'm trying to link to a pdf file.

2006-05-08 Thread francky
Patrick Roane wrote:

Hi folks,
I'm trying to create a link to a .pdf file (on my server) and I'm having 
trouble. My code is: 
[...]
www.allgooddogspetcare.com/agd06/news.html

Any ideas?

Hi Patrick,
Ehm, this list/forum is about css, and I don't see your question as a 
css question: more as general html/coding question.
But you should have a look at the html-validator for ideas ;-) :
http://validator.w3.org/

Cheers,
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Re: [css-d] Center Div Vertically and Horizontally

2006-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
TMH Design wrote:
 I have a splash page for which I want to have a div that is sized 760px wide
 by 410px high and regardless of screen resolution is always centered both
 vertically and horizontally. Can someone please show me how to do this?
 Thanks so much. Tom

Hi Tom,

This page might help:

http://snipurl.com/q650

(Link description) FAQ : How to centre horizontally and vertically?
If you want to centre an image (or element) vertically and horizontally 
in the page then one way to accomplish this without tables is to use the 
following CSS.
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Re: [css-d] Fluid right margin in an auto-centering div

2006-05-08 Thread francky
Marcus Duke wrote:

The example for the question is:

http://fish.washington.edu/wrac/beta/2ndary1.html

An auto-centered div, fixed width, with bulk of content, including 
background image, navigation menu, and a nested text div are giving me 
problems with IE Win/Mac (latest versions) and Opera for getting the 
text in the content div (dotted red border) to auto-reflow the right 
margin as a function of viewport width (works fine in Safari, Firefox). 
That is, the text should never flow past right margin of the green 
background image in wrapper div, but it should shrink when the 
viewport width is less than total wrapper width so that horizontal 
scrolling is never required to read the text).

I've been able to get the right-margin behavior to work fine for 
non-auto-centering divs, but I'm stumped for this particular layout. 
Can it be done, and if so, how?

FYI, I experimented with the max-width hack at 
http://www.svendtofte.com/code/max_width_in_ie/, trying both ems and 
pixels, with no luck--this I infer is due again to the unique problems 
imposed by the auto-center format.

[...]

And later:

Sorry about that, folks:

ID: wracbeta
Pwd: B0r3d
  

Hi Marcus,
It took some persistance to come in ... at last after copy/pasting the 
Pwd in Notepad I discovered the O [ooo] was not an O [ooo] but an 0 
[zero]. ;-)

I think first you should have a look at the html-validator:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffish.washington.edu%2Fwrac%2Fbeta%2F2ndary1.html
 
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffish.washington.edu%2Fwrac%2Fbeta%2F2ndary1.html

The css-validator wants conditional comments for IE, and a different 
@import rule:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffish.washington.edu%2Fwrac%2Fbeta%2F2ndary1.html
 
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffish.washington.edu%2Fwrac%2Fbeta%2F2ndary1.html
See also:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ImportHack

Then in the code my first impression is to cancel the #content { 
position: absolute; }, and see what happens.
The max-width rules I should put in the #content div and not in the p 
styles. Then also headings h1, h2,.., lists ul and so on are 
allowed in the content; what makes it easier to manipulate them all 
together.

Greetings,
francky



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[css-d] png transparency with image-background

2006-05-08 Thread ross
Hi,

I want to make a transparent png the background for a div it is fine when the 
image is in an IMG tag I can just use this

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/


but what if I am using image-background{}. Any ideas?


Ross
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[css-d] align-right-left on same line

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel Kessler
I'm having trouble getting my nav to align on the left and my content  
(iframe) to align right.  I've tried all sorts of combinations.   
Should I just use a table?

My other problem with this is that the nav is not on the left border  
on Safari and Navigator, as it is on IE.  How can I make that  
consistent?

thanks for all the help and for two questions at once :-)

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[css-d] align-right-left on same line

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel Kessler
I forgot the url last time, sry:
http://hhp.umd.edu/events/systems_thinking/

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I'm having trouble getting my nav to align on the left and my content  
(iframe) to align right.  I've tried all sorts of combinations.   
Should I just use a table?

My other problem with this is that the nav is not on the left border  
on Safari and Navigator, as it is on IE.  How can I make that  
consistent?

thanks for all the help and for two questions at once :-)

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Phone: 301-405-2545
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Re: [css-d] png transparency with image-background

2006-05-08 Thread Bill Brown
 Hi,
 
 I want to make a transparent png the background for a div it 
 is fine when the image is in an IMG tag I can just use this
 
 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/
 
 but what if I am using image-background{}. Any ideas?
 
 Ross

Hi Ross.

This should do the trick.

style type=text/css
/* ![CDATA[ */
#someDiv {
  background-image: url(someImage.png);
}
/* ]] */
/style

!--[if gte IE 5]
style type=text/css
/* ![CDATA[ */
#someDiv {
  background-image: none;
 
filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='someImage.png
',sizingMethod='scale||image||crop');
}
#someDiv a {
  position: relative||absolute;
}
/* ]] */
/style
![endif]--

Caveats: Cannot use repeating backgrounds in IE. If you set the filter
attribute on any parent container (a div for example), you must set all
child anchors to be positioned relative or absolute. The same is true when
you set filter on the anchor itself. As a precautionary measure, I often
throw zoom:1.0 on my anchors to ensure they've been given layout.

Note: I've used || to indicate other available options. You should only
select one and remove the ||'s.

Bill Brown
Webmaster, MacNimble.com



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[css-d] margin revealer

2006-05-08 Thread Michiel van der Blonk
Hi,

The FF and IE toolbars both do a terrific job with the DOM explorer and
being able to outline almost anything, except... margins.

I have created a javascript solution that outlines elements' margins
when you click on them. Though this has some drawbacks (e.g. links
cannot show their margin) it has been an invaluable resource in CSS
development. I have no monetary gains/goals here, and just want the
best tools for everyone. So my tool is GPL, and should stay that way,
and hopefully someone can cooperate. Let me get some feedback from
everyone.

Now, I do realize that margins are intrinsically different from all
other visible properties, since they are 'not really there'. They are
simply invisible areas.

Here is the general idea of the solution:
- create a new element on top of the target using positioning
- give it padding in the same amount as the margin of the target
- give it a background-color

Some problems I encountered in earlier versions that I had to fix:
- The first version used position:relative. This is problematic since
it has to be a child-element of the target node. Some tags just cannot
have child elements, like e.g. img and input.
- Setting CSS properties through a style sheet didn't work, so I
reverted to using inline styles for everything.

I am using the Yahoo User Interface library, which is also the reason
why I compacted the javascript to keep the size manageable.

You can see it in action here: http://vanderblonk.com/css/tools/mr/

It's quite hard to make this work cross-browser, since positioning is
not implemented the same way in all browsers. I have tested in FF and
IE only for now.

Michiel


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Re: [css-d] png transparency with image-background

2006-05-08 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
Bill Brown wrote:
 !--[if gte IE 5]

It's not a good idea to use gte IE 5 in this conditional comment, as 
IE 7 is capable of displaying background PNGs, and hacks should only be 
applied as necessary. Use lte IE 6 instead.

Regards,

Nick.
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Re: [css-d] text alignment in footer div

2006-05-08 Thread Stevio
What would be wrong with using a table in this instance? It achieves
everything that is required without any hacks, like what Francky posted, and
will validate?

Stephen


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 At the following location: http://www.picturethis4u.com/k-test.htm , I 
 want to
 position the text New Clients Welcome to the left, and the text link: 
 Enquire Here
 by E-mail to the right in this footer div. 

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Re: [css-d] align-right-left on same line

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel Kessler
It's improved and fine on the PC IE, but on Safari and Navigator the  
footer runs up to the navigation, behind the iframe.  Alot of the  
problem is that I wanted the iframe to be indented by a margin-right  
15 pixels and this was too much for it.  It would be nice if I could  
indent it more towards the navigation though.

I still also have the problem on safari/navigator where the  
navigation is about 20 or so pixels off the right side.

thanks for the assistance so far.

On May 8, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Nick McNeill wrote:

 You need to float the div's left and right, don't use align. Give  
 both elements a set width, you already have one set, and use float:  
 left; or float: right;
 Hope that helps.

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Re: [css-d] text alignment in footer div

2006-05-08 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 5/8/06, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What would be wrong with using a table in this instance? It achieves
 everything that is required without any hacks, like what Francky posted, and
 will validate?

What's wrong (in my opinion) is that it uses tables for layout,
something for which they are not designed.  Or necessary.  They reduce
useability and accessibility for no good reason.

For tabular data display, tables are the correct choice, for layout,
the wrong choice.

There are no table police that will remove your site if you use
tables for layout, as far as I know.  But you will be advertising the
out-of-date nature of your web design team.

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[css-d] Right Navigation Pane in Liquid Layout is not behaving properly

2006-05-08 Thread Chris C
From reading posts and help you guys helped others with; I resolved my
left menu bar navigation problem by implementing the liquid columns
(based on this site http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/)

But the problem I'm having is that I can't get my right column to be
un-proportional to the left column.

This is what I want:
-- 150px  Xpx (defined by browser window)  280px --

But what I'm getting is:
-- 150px  Xpx (defined by browser window)  150px --

Here is the link: http://hitech.lead2gold.org

I'm new to css, so I'm basing what is happening on the background colors
within the right column. Thus that is what I want to adjust.  I have set
all the right column information to 280px, and the calendar is being
placed properly.  I just can't get the background to behave as the
calendar does.

Chris

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Re: [css-d] Right Navigation Pane in Liquid Layout is not behavingproperly

2006-05-08 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Your right column looks fine (FF1.5), it's your background image on that
column - it's only 150px wide.

Nigel


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Subject: [css-d] Right Navigation Pane in Liquid Layout is not
behavingproperly


From reading posts and help you guys helped others with; I resolved my
left menu bar navigation problem by implementing the liquid columns
(based on this site http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/)

But the problem I'm having is that I can't get my right column to be
un-proportional to the left column.

This is what I want:
-- 150px  Xpx (defined by browser window)  280px --

But what I'm getting is:
-- 150px  Xpx (defined by browser window)  150px --

Here is the link: http://hitech.lead2gold.org

I'm new to css, so I'm basing what is happening on the background colors
within the right column. Thus that is what I want to adjust.  I have set
all the right column information to 280px, and the calendar is being
placed properly.  I just can't get the background to behave as the
calendar does.

Chris

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Re: [css-d] I'm trying to link to a pdf file.

2006-05-08 Thread Don Miller
The pdf downloads for me and opens even in Acrobat 4 so the links work.
The pdf has to be downloaded before it can displayed. On my computer I use a
download program that automatically takes over for a download.  In some the
pfd should opens the reader and displays the pdf in the browser window.  I
try to avoid that but as I recall, it depends on how the browser is
configured to handle the download and the pdf.

Don

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| Hi folks,
|
| I'm trying to create a link to a .pdf file (on my server) and I'm having
trouble. My code is:
| --
| a href=pdf/spring2004.pdfClick here img src=images/pdf.gif alt=
width=16 height=16 border=0/a
|   to view our Spring 2004 news letter. br /
| 
|
| Everything is up on the server (in a dir. called pdf), but I have it set
up the same on my local host and everytime I click on the link ... nothing
but a blank page comes up.
|
| www.allgooddogspetcare.com/agd06/news.html
|
| Any ideas?
|
| Thanks in advance.
|
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Re: [css-d] Search Engine Design

2006-05-08 Thread bj
 if you could reply with ideas, perhaps some code or links to tutorials or css 
 effect you have seen and think would be appropriate, i would be very 
 grateful.  

I have a feeling you're not going to get a whole lot of response to this, so 
I'll give you a starting direction.

http://css-discuss.incutio.com/

Look through the layouts, find what you need and implement it. Don't be afraid 
to totally screw it up, because when you do you'll then have a proper question 
for this list, which focuses on the use and implementation of css. Then when 
you write the list for a solution to a problem make sure to use a subject line 
that gives folks a hint as to what browser you've screwed up in and how, so the 
appropriate css guru reads your message and responds.

Good luck!
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[css-d] Resizing in IE and footer in Firefox

2006-05-08 Thread Tom McNeer
Hello,

I'd appreciate it if folks could take a look at the following sample and
give me some guidance as to my errors:
http://www.mediumcool.com/test/layouttest.html.http://www.mediumcool.com/test/layouttest.html

I have included most of the style information within the HTML file for
convenience, although there is a linked stylesheet that affects the menu
list items.

Here's what's happening: In IE, the pages displays as I would hope until the
window is resized downward. Then two things happen: 1) the shadow which
forms a border on the upper part of the content area is repeated underneath
the top-level menu items and the bg color of the outer (or upper) div is
shown below the menu items, and 2) the elements which create the left-hand
border disappear.

Refreshing the page corrects most of this. I have noticed that if I remove
the menu list entirely, the same issue regarding the shadow and background
color appears, even when initially displayed.

In Firefox, I have a different problem: the footer content is displayed
oddly. The image defined as the background for the footer div does not
appear. If I eliminate the image and define a background color for the div,
that color is not displayed, although test content in that div is shown.

Could someone please show me the error of my ways. Thanks very much in
advance.

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Thanks,

Tom

Tom McNeer
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http://www.mediumcool.com
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[css-d] CSS not loading in Firefox/IE

2006-05-08 Thread CSS
Hi, folks

Please excuse me if this question is off-topic for this list (although if 
that is the case, offline responses with any suggested solutions would be 
welcome).

A user of one of the sites I am involved with is seeing some strange 
behaviour.  It looks as though neither Firefox nor IE6 are loading in the 
stylesheet, but I can't figure out why.  She says that the site was working 
OK, but some time in the past few days it stopped displaying correctly, 
losing all the styles.

Any suggestions what might cause Firefox/IE6 to not load the stylesheet?

(site is at: www.sfep.org.uk,  stylesheet at: www.sfep.org.uk/styles/sfep.css)


WBW
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Re: [css-d] Resizing in IE and footer in Firefox

2006-05-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tom McNeer wrote:

 I'd appreciate it if folks could take a look at the following sample
 and give me some guidance as to my errors: 
 http://www.mediumcool.com/test/layouttest.html.

Visit the validator first...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediumcool.com%2Ftest%2Flayouttest.html
...and try to get that markup in accordance with the DTD you're using.

Once that part is alright, the rendering-problems you mention will
probably be a lot easier to fix.

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Re: [css-d] CSS not loading in Firefox/IE

2006-05-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
CSS wrote:

 Any suggestions what might cause Firefox/IE6 to not load the
 stylesheet?
 
 (site is at: www.sfep.org.uk,  stylesheet at:
 www.sfep.org.uk/styles/sfep.css)

Not really, as it seems to styled well enough in my Firefox and IE6 (and
also in Opera).
However, any attempt to figure out anything is somewhat hampered by the
state of that markup...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfep.org.uk%2F
...so I gave up :-)

regards
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Re: [css-d] site check/couple of issues

2006-05-08 Thread Bill Brown
 I'm about finished with this site and I've been working on a 
 Mac, so I could really use some feedback on Windows. I've 
 checked the site on Safari, Netscape, Firefox and iCab. I'm 
 not a web developer at all and am just doing my best to try 
 to kluge this all together.
 
[snip]
 
 Everything is pretty much done, except for inserting the MP3 
 sample files into my player and filling in the matching 
 content. We're hoping to go live soon, so any help would be 
 greatly appreciated.
 
 Here's the link.
 
 http://robabernathy.com
 
 Many thanks.

Hi Rob.

I'm gonna hafta echo Gunlaug's recent sentiments about some other posts in
this list. If the markup doesn't validate, it isn't really fair to call it a
CSS issue. I got 57 errors validating your code, so to isolate the problem
would require re-coding and then deciding if the problem was the JS, HTML,
CSS or any of a myriad of other things.

Before taking any steps to declare that some browser isn't reading something
the way I want, I always try to make sure that my code validates, or at
least, the errors are ones I know about and can live with.

In your case, I'd say bring the HTML up to specs first so that the problem
can be isolated to the CSS portion of your design.

Gunlaug: Sorry for stealing your thunder, but I didn't want you to be all
alone on this one. It's an important point, I think.

Hope it helps.

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Re: [css-d] div covering up scroll bar? Z-index?

2006-05-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Matthew Bernhardt wrote:
 
 http://benedikt.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/faculty/
 
 ... in IE/Windows, the top header div is appearing
 over the scroll bar. ...
 Am I right in thinking that this is somehow related to the z-index of the  
 element? Or would it be something else?

Something else. I think you can adjust

body {
   padding-right: 20px; /* add */
/*width: 100%;*/ /*comment this out */

   height:100%;
   overflow:auto;
   }

in ie6.css, to leave some space for the scrollbar.

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Re: [css-d] CSS not loading in Firefox/IE

2006-05-08 Thread CSS
Hi, again.

Thanks to Bill and Georg (and to others who replied offlist) for 
advice/comments.

I was already  pursuing the 'View  Page Style No Style' option that Bill 
suggested, but don't have an answer as yet.  This wouldn't, however, 
explain the visitor experiencing the same problem in IE.  I'm convinced 
that this is a problem at the visitor's end, but would like to put my 
finger on exactly what the problem is.

In addition, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

However, any attempt to figure out anything is somewhat hampered by the
state of that markup...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfep.org.uk%2F
...so I gave up :-)

Your point is taken, Georg -- although, with respect, I don't believe that 
the state of the HTML markup (which hasn't changed recently) really affects 
whether the stylesheet should load correctly for some visitors and not for 
others.

Having said that, I've corrected the validation errors now -- so if you'd 
like to have another look, Georg, and see if you can figure anything out 
now, that would be great ;-)


WBW
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Re: [css-d] CSS not loading in Firefox/IE

2006-05-08 Thread Dave Goodchild
Looks fine in Firefox to me.!

On 08/05/06, CSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, again.

 Thanks to Bill and Georg (and to others who replied offlist) for
 advice/comments.

 I was already  pursuing the 'View  Page Style No Style' option that Bill
 suggested, but don't have an answer as yet.  This wouldn't, however,
 explain the visitor experiencing the same problem in IE.  I'm convinced
 that this is a problem at the visitor's end, but would like to put my
 finger on exactly what the problem is.

 In addition, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

 However, any attempt to figure out anything is somewhat hampered by the
 state of that markup...
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfep.org.uk%2F
 ...so I gave up :-)

 Your point is taken, Georg -- although, with respect, I don't believe that
 the state of the HTML markup (which hasn't changed recently) really
 affects
 whether the stylesheet should load correctly for some visitors and not for
 others.

 Having said that, I've corrected the validation errors now -- so if you'd
 like to have another look, Georg, and see if you can figure anything out
 now, that would be great ;-)


 WBW
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Re: [css-d] CSS not loading in Firefox/IE

2006-05-08 Thread Ian Young

 Your point is taken, Georg -- although, with respect, I don't
 believe that
 the state of the HTML markup (which hasn't changed recently)
 really affects
 whether the stylesheet should load correctly for some visitors
 and not for
 others.

 Having said that, I've corrected the validation errors now -- so if you'd
 like to have another look, Georg, and see if you can figure anything out
 now, that would be great ;-)


Looks great to me on IE, FF, and Opera

Looks as if there is a major problem with client's set up. Might be worth
checking their set up as first suggested. I had a client who could not view
a site at all that the rest of world can see. It was their ISP's fault!!!

I cannot see how it is your code, but then I am no expert.

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Re: [css-d] site check/couple of issues

2006-05-08 Thread Bill Brown
 Nor sure whether you have done some work on this but cannot 
 see where Bill gets 57 markup errors. I was intrigued and had 
 a look see. I found 3!! and all the same error.
[snip]
 Whilst I agree with Bill that it is good practice to have 
 good markup it depends what markup error there is whether it 
 affects CSS.
[snip]
 Ian

Rob, Ian,

I didn't keep the screen open for that error check and it is entirely
possible I was returning results from some other site check. I've just
checked again and a check of the code on the contact page returns 8 errors.
There's also 8 in your CSS, the details of which I've included since they
are CSS issues.

URI : http://robabernathy.com/styles/main.css

* Line: 32 Context : .twelve
  Invalid number : padding-top none is not a padding-top value : none
* Line: 32 Context : .twelve
  Invalid number : padding-bottom none is not a padding-bottom value :
none
* Line: 34 Context : .fourteen
  Invalid number : padding-top none is not a padding-top value : none
* Line: 34 Context : .fourteen
  Invalid number : padding-bottom none is not a padding-bottom value :
none
* Line: 37 Context : .eleven
  Invalid number : padding-top none is not a padding-top value : none
* Line: 37 Context : .eleven
  Invalid number : padding-bottom none is not a padding-bottom value :
none
* Line: 39 Context : .elevencent
  Invalid number : padding-top none is not a padding-top value : none
* Line: 39 Context : .elevencent
  Invalid number : padding-bottom none is not a padding-bottom value :
none 

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Re: [css-d] Eliminating the URL address, date, and No. of pages

2006-05-08 Thread Jan Brasna
 it prints out the URL of the document [...] How do I get rid of all that?

In your browser settings.

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[css-d] Three right floated horizontal navigation lists

2006-05-08 Thread Kristin Caulfield
Hello,

I've been going crazy trying to solve this problemIn the header area of 
this site I'm working on, I have 3 horizontal navigation bars, one under the 
other, floated to the right. From top to bottom--A tools menu, a main menu, and 
a sub menu. In the long run I want to make the sub menu be nested within the 
main menu, but I'm not ready to tackle that in CSS just yet. So for now the sub 
menus are separate unordered lists that I hide when appropriate.

I'm just working this out in Firefox on both a mac and pc at the moment and am 
not ready to start browser de-bugging. 

My tools menu and my sub menu float just fine to the right, but I can't get my 
main menu (the middle one) to do so without reversing the order of my list 
items so that the first one ends up being the furthest right on the page. The 
code below is my latest version and the menu sticks to the left of the page.

I've tried just about every combination of float and clear I can think of, even 
ones that made no logical sense whatsoever and am stumped. Any help you can 
offer would be greatly appreciated.

I apologize that I don't have a server to upload this to at the moment. I hope 
I have provided enough code for you to take a look. If you need more 
information about the page, I will do my best to provide it.

Thanks in advance,

Kristin

/* Tools menu */

#toolsnav {
float: right;
list-style-type: none;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
background: url(../pics/headerbackground.gif);
}

#toolsnav li {
float: left;
line-height: 1.1em;
margin: 0 5px 0 -5px;
padding: 0 5px 0 5px;
list-style-type: none;
}

/* WFCFIA MENU- */

#mainnavcontainer {
clear: both;
width: 100%;
background: url(../pics/headerbackground.gif);
}

#mainnav {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 6px 0;
list-style-type: none;
width: 50%;
background: url(../pics/headerbackground.gif);
}
 
#mainnav ul {
float: right;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style-type: none;
color: #467;
}

#mainnav li {
display: inline;
}

/* WCFIA sub level navigation */

#subnavcontainer {
clear: both;
float: right;
background-color: #578;
color: #fff;
}

.subnav {
clear: right;
float: right;
margin: 0;
padding: 2px 0 2px 0;
width: 100%;
background-color: #578;
color: #fff;
}

.subnav ul, .subnav li {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
display: inline;
list-style-type: none;
color: #ccc;
background-color: #578;
font-weight: bold;
}

 HTML 

div id=toolsnav

ul
lia href=index.html class=currentHome/a/li
lia href=contact/index.htmlContact Us/a/li
lia href=intranet/Intranet/a/li
lia href=sitemap.htmlSite Map/a/li
!-- SEARCH FORM --
li
form action= method=get
input name=search type=text value=Search size=20 
maxlength=60 /
input name=go type=button value=Go! /
/form
/li
/ul

/div !-- END #TOOLSNAV --

div id=mainnavcontainer

ul id=mainnav
lia href=aboutus/index.htmlAbout Us/a/li
lia href=calendar/index.htmlCalendar/a/li
lia href=people/index.htmlPeople/a/li
lia href=fs_resources/index.htmlFaculty amp; Student  
Resources/a/li
/ul 

/div !-- END #MAINNAVCONTAINER --

div id=subnavcontainer

ul class=subnav
liAbout Us:/li 
lia href=aboutus/history.htmlHistory/a/li
lia href=aboutus/ov_affiliates.htmlAffiliates Overview/a/li
lia href=aboutus/ov_administration.htmlAdministration 
Overview/a/li
lia href=aboutus/communications.htmlCommunications/a/li
/ul

...other lists for hidden submenus...

/div !-- END #SUBNAVCONTAINER --
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Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples)

2006-05-08 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
 From: francky
 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:07 PM

 Glenn E. Lanier, II wrote:
 
 [...]
 If you're still reading and not confused, let me try to sum it up:
 http://www.CarpentersForChrist.com/LayerTest/reg.html 
 contains valid HTML
   
 
 ... Oho! I was still reading but also confused, while I did check the 
 html-validator in the meantime.

Proper link to behaving page. Improper wording. Reg1.html, the misbehaving
page, is validated. No errors -- CSS errors are all leading underscore
related, and shouldn't cause the problem, since reg.html displays properly
in IE using the same CSS.

HTML in question:
http://www.CarpentersForChrist.com/LayerTest/reg1.html

Validation of HTML in question:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carpentersforch
rist.com%2FLayerTest%2Freg1.html

 To get the difference, I should advise to isolate the problem by 
 commenting out parts of the (overwhelming table-) code you got, see 
 where the css is going wrong, and correct IE in that place(s).

You're not doing this the right way. You should point out the problem
(concisely, hopefully) and let me be on my way! I don't mind hacking that
beast down to size, but was hoping a quick glance with fresh eyes would shed
some light on where to hack first. 

 ps-1: the css-validator can be made happy by replacing the 3 
 IE_underscore hacks by a conditional comment.
I'll look at that.

 ps-2: beautyful css-hovers instead of the html-absorbing js-hovers 
 should be some good work too. :-)

I agree, but not my call. They'd also benefit from being added using SSI,
not hard coded into every single page, but that is a story for a different
day.

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[css-d] Disappearing Breadcrumb!

2006-05-08 Thread Nick Grossman
Hi Everyone,

I'm in the middle of a little mystery, and I'd appreciate any help you
might be able to offer...

On the following page, the breadcrumb is disappearing in IE6/win (fine
in ffox).  However, if you mouse over the breadcrumb area (top of page
to the right of the logo) it will reappear.  Then, if you mouse over
the About PPS menu the breadcrumb will disappear again!  Btw, if
there's no background color (pink in this case, for demonstration) the
breadcrumb is always visible.
http://stage.pps.org/info/newsletter/

However, it's on this page it's fine:
http://stage.pps.org/

Thanks in advance for any help!

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[css-d] classes and id's

2006-05-08 Thread Ron Payette
Hi - I realize this is a very basic question, but the more I try to
figure it out the more confused I get.  So maybe one of you can set me
straight!

When using classes (or id's) - what is the correct way to do the
following:
a.leftborder {color: #ff;} OR
.leftborder a {color: #ff;} OR what about
a.leftborder:hover {color: #00;} OR
.leftborder a:hover {color: #00;} And what about this
ul.leftborder li a {color: #ff;} (Now that's getting really weird
looking???  Is that how you do it?)


I'm sorry to bother you all with something so basic, but I couldn't seem
to find any thing consistent.  And now I think I'm super confused!

Very sincerely,
Allison




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[css-d] Side navigation too low

2006-05-08 Thread Mark Fellowes
Not sure what's going on here.  I've been looking through the code (XHTML and 
CSS validate)
However the side nav is too low on the left side.

http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html#

Here is the CSS for the side navigation:
http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8_side_nav.css

TIA
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Re: [css-d] distribute images across a page

2006-05-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to Christian I used his (her?) technique and have a working 
version of my own.  I added a rollover effect on my example:  
www.dottedi.biz/codesamples/5-image-rollover.html

The solution hit the mark!  -Bob

Christian Heilmann wrote:

My guess would be to use a real list, set the images to display:block,

float the images to the left, float the LI elements to the left and 
float the main UL to the left.

http://icant.co.uk/sandbox/imageDistribution.html

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Re: [css-d] classes and id's

2006-05-08 Thread Jon Jensen
It depends on what you are trying to do... Each of these does something
slightly different:

a.leftborder {color: #ff;}
/* all anchors having the leftborder class will be white
   e.g. a href=foo.html class=leftborderbar/a
*/

.leftborder a {color: #ff;}
/* all anchors inside an element having the leftborder class will be white
   e.g. div class=leftbordera href=foo.htmlbar/a/div
*/

a.leftborder:hover {color: #00;}
/* all anchors having the leftborder class will be black when moused over
   e.g. a href=foo.html class=leftborderbar/a
*/

.leftborder a:hover {color: #00;}
/* all anchors inside an element having the leftborder class will be black
when moused over
   e.g. div class=leftbordera href=foo.htmlbar/a/div
*/

ul.leftborder li a {color: #ff;}
/* all anchors inside an li inside a ul having the leftborder class will be
white
   e.g. ul class=leftborderlia href=foo.htmlbar/a/li/ul
*/

If all of this went over your head, have a look at
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/ for a great primer on selectors
and CSS.

Jon

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Re: [css-d] Disappearing Breadcrumb!

2006-05-08 Thread Brian Jones
At first glance it sounds like a problem I had called the
Peekaboo bug: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html

On 5/8/06, Nick Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 I'm in the middle of a little mystery, and I'd appreciate any help you
 might be able to offer...

 On the following page, the breadcrumb is disappearing in IE6/win (fine
 in ffox).  However, if you mouse over the breadcrumb area (top of page
 to the right of the logo) it will reappear.  Then, if you mouse over
 the About PPS menu the breadcrumb will disappear again!  Btw, if
 there's no background color (pink in this case, for demonstration) the
 breadcrumb is always visible.
 http://stage.pps.org/info/newsletter/

 However, it's on this page it's fine:
 http://stage.pps.org/

 Thanks in advance for any help!

 - Nick Grossman
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Re: [css-d] Side navigation too low

2006-05-08 Thread Mark Fellowes
Actually this seems to be a Firefox problem.

Not sure what's going on here.  I've been looking through the code (XHTML and 
CSS validate)
However the side nav is too low on the left side.

http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html#

Here is the CSS for the side navigation:
http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8_side_nav.css

TIA
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Re: [css-d] irritating margin difference

2006-05-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/05/07 23:59 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata apparently typed:

 I did some rework on my home page today. It has a 25 sec. delayed
 redirect, so I have a copy with no redirect temporarily available at:
 http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/indexx.html

 I have no Mac, so my only Safari look comes from
 http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/, which doesn't say which Safari
 version it uses.

 My intent is for each of the bordered divs to appear to have identical
 spacing between themselves. These browsers render the spacing the way I
 want:
...

I figured out that '#entrybuttonc, #entrybuttonl, #entrybuttonr
{font-size: x-large;}' needed to be changed to '#entrybuttonc p,
#entrybuttonl p, #entrybuttonr p {font-size: x-large;}', so that the
divs were sized according to the default font instead of x-large. Now it
works as expected in all the same browsers I originally tested with,
with the added bonus that IE at smaller no longer pushes #entrybuttonc
down below the two that belong on each side of it.

Thanks for the private replies that rattled me into taking a fresh look. :-)
-- 
All have sinned  fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

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Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples)

2006-05-08 Thread francky
Glenn E. Lanier, II wrote:

From: francky
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:07 PM
[...]
[...]
[...]
To get the difference, I should advise to isolate the problem by 
commenting out parts of the (overwhelming table-) code you got, see 
where the css is going wrong, and correct IE in that place(s).


You're not doing this the right way.
  

:-)

You should point out the problem
  

:-)

[...]

I think this is a bit off topic, so I'll go on off list. The problem is 
here:
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/helping-glenn.e.lanier-II.txt

Anyway, thanks for helping me how to help.

francky
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Re: [css-d] classes and id's

2006-05-08 Thread francky
Jon Jensen wrote:

It depends on what you are trying to do... Each of these does 
something slightly different:
[...]
ul
[...]

If all of this went over your head, have a look at
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/
for a great primer on selectors and CSS.

Jon

And a direct online explication for what a home made selector is 
expected to do:
the SelectORacle:
http://penguin.theopalgroup.com/cgi-bin/css3explainer/selectoracle.py

Greetings,
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[css-d] Problem balancing margins and paddings

2006-05-08 Thread Mitko Gerensky-Greene
I am trying to redesign the following 3-column layout
http://lmmiller.com/biography.html to a new, simpler version with just two
columns:

http://lmmiller.com/test.php

http://lmmiller.com/assets/css/test.css

I am facing the following issues:

1. The #quotes appear to have a tiny top margin even though I am trying to
neutrialize the #content's top padding with the #quotes top margin:

#content
{
background-color: #fff;
margin-left: 200px;
border-left: 1px solid gray;
padding-top: 1em;
padding-right: 1em;
padding-bottom: 1em;
padding-left: 1em;
/* max-width: 36em; */
}

#quotes {
width: 200px;
background-color: #A5B2DE;
border-top: 1px solid gray;
border-right: 0px solid gray;
border-left: 1px solid gray;
border-bottom: 1px solid gray;
float: right;
margin-top: -1em;
margin-right: 0em;
margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 10px;
text-align: right;
padding: 10px;
font-size: 90%;
}

2. If I attempt to give #content padding-right: 1em, the #quotes appears
with right margin in Firefox and shifted way to the right in IE6.

What I want to accomplish is a simple layout where the #quotes are
positioned in the top right corner of the #content in both Firefox and IE.

Any assistance would be highly appreaciated!

Thanks in advance!

Mitko
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