[css-d] Subject: Re: ie6 not displaying site at all, Why? (Ingo Chao)

2006-06-08 Thread Simon Kerr

Thanks for that zoe. Really appreciate it. As I said, this is my first 
real CSS site and I'm having some major problems with the ie thang.

I've managed to sort out most of the positioning problems, and I've set 
the position to relative on the box areas as suggested and this has 
worked nicely.

My only real problem now is what to do about the pngs. I might just use 
jpgs in ie but this makes the site look a little less professional and 
rather boxy.

Thanks. Simon

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[css-d] Container Div Element Drop Shadow Effect

2006-06-08 Thread TMH Design
Can (was) CSS used to give this page's containing element the drop shadow
appearance? 

 

 

http://www.clubcorp.com/clubs.aspx

 

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Re: [css-d] Container Div Element Drop Shadow Effect

2006-06-08 Thread Els
TMH Design wrote:
> Can (was) CSS used to give this page's containing element the
> drop shadow appearance?
>
> http://www.clubcorp.com/clubs.aspx

Left and right shadow are one image:
http://www.clubcorp.com/images/shadowBg.png

It's set through the home.css stylesheet.

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Re: [css-d] Container Div Element Drop Shadow Effect

2006-06-08 Thread David Laakso
TMH Design wrote:
> Can (was) CSS used to give this page's containing element the drop shadow
> appearance?  http://www.clubcorp.com/clubs.aspx
>   
The example page uses images for the drop shadow(disable images in your 
browser).
A drop shadow can be done with CSS. This is /one/ method: 
.
Regards,
~davidLaakso

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[css-d] IE5/Mac

2006-06-08 Thread Dave Goodchild
Hi all. I have completed the redesign of www.web-buddha.co.uk. I have used
browsercam (for those who don't know, sign up for a 24-hour trial - you can
use it to view screenshots of your pages in a multitide of browsers). The
site seems stable in all browsers on a variety of platforms apart from
IE5.2/Mac.
I know it's a minority browser but the page either does not load ot the
layout is screwed. Anyone out there who uses this browser and/or has some
initimacy with its bugs/quirks could you advise. If it is trivial I will use
a band pass filter to send the amended css to that browser.

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Re: [css-d] Container Div Element Drop Shadow Effect

2006-06-08 Thread Joe Huggins
Yes, CSS was used, here is the rule that controls it:

div#wrapper {

position: relative;

margin-right: auto;

margin-left: auto;

text-align: left;

width: 754px;

padding: 0 8px;

background-image: url("../images/shadowBg.png");

background-repeat: repeat-y;

}

The drop shadow was achieved with the image shadowBG.png. This image is 
770px wide and 5px tall. It is then repeated down the y-axis so that the 
image grows with with whatever the size of this wrapper is.

Then the shadow at the bottom is done much the same way through this rule:

div#footerWrapper {

margin: 0 auto;

padding-top: 3px;

text-align: center;

background-image: url("../images/footerBg.png");

background-repeat: no-repeat;

width: 770px;

height: 32px;

color: white;

clear: both;

}

Where the background image footerBG.png contains the shadows.

TMH Design wrote:
> Can (was) CSS used to give this page's containing element the drop shadow
> appearance? 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.clubcorp.com/clubs.aspx
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [css-d] IE5/Mac

2006-06-08 Thread Stephen Prater
It stops loading at 15kb of a 72kb image named css.jpg

It actually locks the program on my Mac.  The image may be corrupt.


On Jun 8, 2006, at 6:47 AM, Dave Goodchild wrote:

> Hi all. I have completed the redesign of www.web-buddha.co.uk. I  
> have used
> browsercam (for those who don't know, sign up for a 24-hour trial -  
> you can
> use it to view screenshots of your pages in a multitide of  
> browsers). The
> site seems stable in all browsers on a variety of platforms apart from
> IE5.2/Mac.
> I know it's a minority browser but the page either does not load ot  
> the
> layout is screwed. Anyone out there who uses this browser and/or  
> has some
> initimacy with its bugs/quirks could you advise. If it is trivial I  
> will use
> a band pass filter to send the amended css to that browser.
>
> -- 
> http://www.web-buddha.co.uk
>
> dynamic web programming from Reigate, Surrey UK (php, mysql, xhtml,  
> css)
>
> look out for project karma, our new venture, coming soon!
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Re: [css-d] CSS Printable Pages

2006-06-08 Thread Tom Livingston
xtiandc wrote:
Yup...that was it. Changed to "media: all" and it did the trick. Duh. Thanks!

Christian.

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On 6/5/06, xtiandc wrote:
> Is there a way to control font size/layout on printable pages? The printer is 
> adhering to my (very) basic layout, but seems to be ignoring my font 
> declarations. Is there a simple way to control this?


Without seeing your page, are you specifying media:screen, media:all,
media:screen print?

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Re: [css-d] Problem with a:hover

2006-06-08 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
> Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote:
>   
>> don't have this problem because I just apply ids directly to the
>> headings and target jump links to these ids (works pretty much
>> everywhere except NN4).
>> 
>
> The jump part may work but this technique may break tabbing navigation in
> IE:
> http://juicystudio.com/article/ie-keyboard-navigation.php
>   

Ah, didn't know about that. Man, I hate IE. :-)

Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] Problem with a:hover

2006-06-08 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
David Hucklesby wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:38:38 -0400, Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote:
>   
>> I usually set a base text color for a (with no pseudo classes on it)
>> that affects all states of all links. Then I override this color for
>> :visited and :hover. I usually don't set anything for :active or 
>> :focus.
>> 
>
> I like this. Nice and simple - thanks, Zoe.
>   

You're welcome. I like simple. By the way, even if you do use  
elements for anchors on the page, you don't have to wrap them around 
anything, so you don't have to risk heading text turning the color of 
links if you apply styles directly to the  element.

> But you may want to make some style change on focus in those situations 
> that the "focus lines" do not show up well when tabbing thru the links. 
> Although IE does not recognize :focus, it seems to apply :active as if it 
> were :focus, so I would apply the same styles to both. (:active and 
> :focus).
>
>   

Right, which is why I said "usually don't." :-) That's a good example of 
a time to use :focus.

Zoe

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[css-d] 3 column fluid, header and footer - the best layout

2006-06-08 Thread Trevor Boult
Hi All,

I'm currently re-designing my Agriculture site 
(http://www.ukagriculture.com) and wanted to know what is regarded as the 
best fluid "3 column, header and footer" layout.

I seem to be in-undated with choices and can't work out which is the best 
option.

My dev pages are here http://www.tboult.co.uk/dev/ag/

I seem to have issues with my current choice regarding the header not being 
consitent in IE and Firefox.

This impacts the menu (DHTML menu builder) on the countryside page linked 
from the index page (the only link currently working). I have left a 1px 
border on the top div to see the difference.

Any suggestions would be fantastic.

Cheers

Trevor
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[css-d] Problem with CSS Popup Menu "jumping" in I.E.

2006-06-08 Thread Liz Rainey
Thank you all for wonderful tips! Since signing up with this list I have
learned more about CSS than in the last 6 months on my own!

I am working on a new site for the city and almost have all problems
tweaked, except this little doozy: sample page:
http://www.ci.killeen.tx.us/menutest.asp

The top right corner features a "Quick Menu". When I mouseover in
Firefox, Opera, and Netscape, it works like a charm. In I.E. the
mouseover causes the lines to skip/move - I don't know how to describe
it.

The entire menu with associated styles is in an SSI file, not part of
the page code. When I embed the code in the page, it has the same
problem.

Any comments/tips would be much appreciated.


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Web Technology Specialist
City of Killeen
www.ci.killeen.tx.us
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[css-d] Safari problem with border

2006-06-08 Thread Dallas Cahker
Finishing up a template for a client, and I am new to tableless design.
There is a small problem with Safari rendering a grey line.  This problems
doesnt exist in FF or other browsers.  Where the issue is here.
http://www.modulestreams.com/index2.html

HTML:


    
  Copyright 2006 Elauwit. All Rights Reserved. Site design by
[whitepenny]





CSS:

#blah
{
  clear: left;
  float: left;

if I change the width to 17.45em Safari loves it, but FF and Opera hates it.

  width: 17.54em; /*to round off nicely on safari */

I'm out of ideas and cant seem to find anything on google that is similar,
anyone with a fresh set of eyes see something.


  border-right: 1px #ccc solid;
}

#footer
{
  clear: both;
}

#footer p
{
  font-family: 'Myriad Roman', 'Myriad', sans-serif;
  font-size: 10px;
  text-align: right;
  padding-top: 91px;
  margin: 0;
  font-size: 65%;
  color: #cc;
  background: transparent;
  padding-right: 9.5em;
  padding-bottom: 2em;
  clear: right;
}

Please be nice I am a newbie and would like to keep my eyebrows and eye
lashes.
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Re: [css-d] z-index question

2006-06-08 Thread Dave Pierce
Christian Coyly Commented:

> Sure thing, Robert. Here is a link:
> http://demo.wfp.com/v1a_prop.asp?id=19121
>
> Please note that this very much a work in progress. The issue at hand: 
> the contents of the fly out menu are visible on hover, the links in 
> the main content are to the left are totally inoperable. This is 
> because the menu occupies a space covering. My guess is I need to go 
> back to the drawing board concerning the placement of the menu.
>
> Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you!


Christian,

I'm using FF v/1.5.0.4, and I get no fly outs at all. Also, there are 
only 2 1/4 pictures on the right. The third picture never fully loads.

Dave

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Re: [css-d] IE bug I've never encountered. please help!

2006-06-08 Thread John Haas
Yes, I found that by changing the top of those blocks to a div as 
opposed to an h2 and basically position:relative'ing that and its parent 
divs, it seems to have fixed the issue..


However, I'm not seeing horizontal shrinking on page load in IE6 or IE7 
like you described...


Thanks for the reply,
John

Ingo Chao wrote:


John Haas wrote:

 


The site: http://qatotonetwork.newmbc.com

The issue: All of the top parts of the sidebar blocks (which are 
actually h2 tags) are shifting leftwards about 100 pixels upon page 
load.  It at first renders correctly, then quickly shifts to the left.
   



To me, it looks like the entire page shrinks horizontally while page 
load and switching from one page to the other (IE6 standalone next to IE7)


Have you fixed the initial h2 shift?


Ingo

 

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Re: [css-d] Safari problem with border

2006-06-08 Thread Dallas Cahker
http://www.modulestreams.com/6261352.jpg
http://www.modulestreams.com/6261349.jpg
 are two examples.

On 6/8/06, Stephen Prater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not seeing the problem on Safari 1.3.2
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 12:09:34 -0400, "Dallas Cahker" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Finishing up a template for a client, and I am new to tableless design.
> > There is a small problem with Safari rendering a grey line.  This
> problems
> > doesnt exist in FF or other browsers.  Where the issue is here.
> > http://www.modulestreams.com/index2.html
> >
> > HTML:
> >
> > 
> >
> >   Copyright 2006 Elauwit. All Rights Reserved. Site design by
> > [whitepenny]
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > CSS:
> >
> > #blah
> > {
> >   clear: left;
> >   float: left;
> >
> > if I change the width to 17.45em Safari loves it, but FF and Opera hates
> > it.
> >
> >   width: 17.54em; /*to round off nicely on safari */
> >
> > I'm out of ideas and cant seem to find anything on google that is
> similar,
> > anyone with a fresh set of eyes see something.
> >
> >
> >   border-right: 1px #ccc solid;
> > }
> >
> > #footer
> > {
> >   clear: both;
> > }
> >
> > #footer p
> > {
> >   font-family: 'Myriad Roman', 'Myriad', sans-serif;
> >   font-size: 10px;
> >   text-align: right;
> >   padding-top: 91px;
> >   margin: 0;
> >   font-size: 65%;
> >   color: #cc;
> >   background: transparent;
> >   padding-right: 9.5em;
> >   padding-bottom: 2em;
> >   clear: right;
> > }
> >
> > Please be nice I am a newbie and would like to keep my eyebrows and eye
> > lashes.
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Re: [css-d] IE bug I've never encountered. please help!

2006-06-08 Thread Ingo Chao


> Ingo Chao wrote:
> 
>> >>> The site: http://qatotonetwork.newmbc.com
>>
>> To me, it looks like the entire page shrinks horizontally while page 
>> load and switching from one page to the other (IE6 standalone next to 
>> IE7)
>>

John Haas wrote:
> However, I'm not seeing horizontal shrinking on page load in IE6 or IE7 like 
> you described...

I just put this IE7 thing into the waste and rebooted with a IE6 XP SP2.

The page takes a breath while loading. I think it's a max width effect. 
Not a problem, though.

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Re: [css-d] Safari problem with border

2006-06-08 Thread Dallas Cahker
correct border-right: 1px #ccc solid;

adjusting the width in  #blah (FF/Opera Win/Mac: width: 17.54em;)
and  (SF/Mac: width: 17.49em;) works.  But I have to do one or the other.


On 6/8/06, Chris Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> border-right?  Not just border?  Or also a border-left?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dallas Cahker
> Subject: [css-d] Safari problem with border
>
> border-right: 1px #ccc solid;
>
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Re: [css-d] 3 column fluid, header and footer - the best layout

2006-06-08 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote:
> Trevor Boult wrote:
>> I'm currently re-designing my Agriculture site 
>> (http://www.ukagriculture.com) and wanted to know what is regarded as 
>> the best fluid "3 column, header and footer" layout.
>> My dev pages are here http://www.tboult.co.uk/dev/ag/
>> I seem to have issues with my current choice regarding the header not 
>> being consitent in IE and Firefox.
>> This impacts the menu (DHTML menu builder) on the countryside page 
>> linked from the index page (the only link currently working). I have 
>> left a 1px border on the top div to see the difference.
>>
>> Trevor
>> http://www.tboult.co.uk
Best is a matter of opinion. Nothing wrong with what you've got-- but 
maybe overly complex, with too many hacks?
I find the 2 & 3 col layouts on this 
page work well for 
me cross-browser. And with care no hacking(or only minor hacking) is 
required.

Part of the problem with header, regardless of the layout, is the way it 
is organized. /Think simple./ For the time, being, try stacking stuff, 
instead of running it side by side. The whole page, including the 
header, should hold a 200% zoom without breaking or overlap in a 
compliant browser.

UK Agriculture
Farming & the Countryside - whats going on and why?
horizontal navigation bar
search thing

Your left column might be wider, and your right column narrower than 
they are now.
Is the stuff in the left column a list?
Does there need to be the big space between images and text in the 
center column?
Use headings(h1-h6) with text. No  tags are usually needed.
Avoid horizontal padding on containers that have width specified.
Tidy Online, and the w3c CSS and markup 
validators are your best friends.

Others may have better ideas, thoughts, and simpler method to resolve 
your question.

Regards,
~davidLaakso
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Re: [css-d] Updated CSS Filter/Hack List

2006-06-08 Thread Kieron McIntyre
Tom wrote:

> Does Safari 2.0.3x act differently than the latest one listed?

Hi Tom,

I can confirm that the filters listed do perform the same in Safari
2.0.3 as might be expected.

I have updated the list at www.digbyswift.com/dithered with this
information.

Thanks again for the request.

Kieron McIntyre
www.digbyswift.com

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Re: [css-d] IE layout - losing margin on a two column layout???

2006-06-08 Thread Dave Re

 Ok, after trial and error, I narrowed it down to this code snippet that's
causing the problem. If I comment the img tag out of the XHTML, the problem goes
away:

XHTML:



Corresponding CSS:
img.imgright {
display: block;
float: right;
clear: left;
margin: 0 0 10px 20px; padding: 0;
}

 Does that narrow down to a more specific IE issue??

 Thanks!

 Dave

Dave Re wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  I'm a rank amateur at CSS, so please bear with me :) I'm working on
> converting my existing web page to (hopefully) a pure CSS layout. I've run 
> into
> a sticky issue with IE. Here are the pertinent links:
> 
> page: http://www.daverephoto.com/CSSTest/index.html
> CSS:  http://www.daverephoto.com/CSSTest/drpmain.css
> 
>  Currently, none of the hyperlinks really work, etc - this is a mockup for
> layout testing purposes. Ok, on to the problem.
> 
>  In IE6, if I resize the window too large, everything inside 
> div#maincontent
> "loses" it's margin - that is, the border of the div is suddenly on the left
> side of the browser window, instead of offset to the right, clearing
> div#leftnav. If I resize the browser window smaller, the proper layout 
> appears.
> 
>  I have no idea what this does on IE5.x (Win or Mac), at this point. IE6 
> is
> painful enough! :)
> 
>  The background of div#maincontent will eventually be black, but is
> different now for visibility of the problem (it's easy to lose that 1px border
> on the left side of the window...).
> 
> Being new to CSS, I'm not intuiting what it is that I'm doing that's
> aggravating IE, yet. And, I'm having problems finding examples that give me a
> clue. It's hard enough trying to pick out how to do this in the first place,
> from the myriad of examples and tips/tricks/hacks/etc that are out there...
> 
> Any help would be extremely appreciated :D
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave
> 

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Re: [css-d] Does a hidden element load?

2006-06-08 Thread Craig Cook
> > > Does an element hidden with css load?

> > Yes.

> That may be a "perhaps." If "hiding" means "visibility: hidden" I believe
> you are correct. But if Christy means "display: none" then I do know some
> browsers do not download the image. I don't recall which browsers,
> though. Sorry.


If "element" refers to an element in (X)HTML, it will indeed load and
you'll see it in the rendered source, even if its display is set to
none. CSS doesn't command the existence of an element, merely its
presentation.

But it's an interesting question of whether background images in CSS
are downloaded when the rule also includes a "display:none" property.
I would assume yes, but it would depend on browser implementation and
the order in which the properties are rendered. It might be the case
that if "display:none" comes before "background-image", some browsers
wouldn't request the image file, but I would be surprised and annoyed
by any desktop browser that behaved this way. It would mean
display:none is being interpreted as "stop reading at this point and
continue to the next rule" which is just plain wrong.


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Re: [css-d] Does a hidden element load?

2006-06-08 Thread Tobias Baldauf
I'm quite sure that FF does not load elements that are set to display:none;

I played around with a css-image-preloader some time ago & made that
experience. And I believe it to be a smart thing to do of FF, because it
safes bandwidth.

Craig Cook schrieb:
 Does an element hidden with css load?
> 
>>> Yes.
> 
>> That may be a "perhaps." If "hiding" means "visibility: hidden" I believe
>> you are correct. But if Christy means "display: none" then I do know some
>> browsers do not download the image. I don't recall which browsers,
>> though. Sorry.
> 
> 
> If "element" refers to an element in (X)HTML, it will indeed load and
> you'll see it in the rendered source, even if its display is set to
> none. CSS doesn't command the existence of an element, merely its
> presentation.
> 
> But it's an interesting question of whether background images in CSS
> are downloaded when the rule also includes a "display:none" property.
> I would assume yes, but it would depend on browser implementation and
> the order in which the properties are rendered. It might be the case
> that if "display:none" comes before "background-image", some browsers
> wouldn't request the image file, but I would be surprised and annoyed
> by any desktop browser that behaved this way. It would mean
> display:none is being interpreted as "stop reading at this point and
> continue to the next rule" which is just plain wrong.
> 
> 
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Re: [css-d] IE layout - losing margin on a two column layout???

2006-06-08 Thread Dave Re

 In fact, it's specifically floating the image that causes the problem. If I
comment out the float, the margin of the containing div stays in the right place
(of course, the image isn't in the right spot, but...)

 Anyone have a clue for me?? I obviously can't seem to find one :)

 Thanks!

 Dave

Dave Re wrote:
>  Ok, after trial and error, I narrowed it down to this code snippet that's
> causing the problem. If I comment the img tag out of the XHTML, the problem 
> goes
> away:
> 
> XHTML:
> 
>  class="imgright" />
> 
> Corresponding CSS:
> img.imgright {
> display: block;
> float: right;
> clear: left;
> margin: 0 0 10px 20px; padding: 0;
> }
> 
>  Does that narrow down to a more specific IE issue??
> 
>  Thanks!
> 
>  Dave
> 
> Dave Re wrote:
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I'm a rank amateur at CSS, so please bear with me :) I'm working on
>> converting my existing web page to (hopefully) a pure CSS layout. I've run 
>> into
>> a sticky issue with IE. Here are the pertinent links:
>>
>> page: http://www.daverephoto.com/CSSTest/index.html
>> CSS:  http://www.daverephoto.com/CSSTest/drpmain.css
>>
>>  Currently, none of the hyperlinks really work, etc - this is a mockup 
>> for
>> layout testing purposes. Ok, on to the problem.
>>
>>  In IE6, if I resize the window too large, everything inside 
>> div#maincontent
>> "loses" it's margin - that is, the border of the div is suddenly on the left
>> side of the browser window, instead of offset to the right, clearing
>> div#leftnav. If I resize the browser window smaller, the proper layout 
>> appears.
>>
>>  I have no idea what this does on IE5.x (Win or Mac), at this point. IE6 
>> is
>> painful enough! :)
>>
>>  The background of div#maincontent will eventually be black, but is
>> different now for visibility of the problem (it's easy to lose that 1px 
>> border
>> on the left side of the window...).
>>
>> Being new to CSS, I'm not intuiting what it is that I'm doing that's
>> aggravating IE, yet. And, I'm having problems finding examples that give me a
>> clue. It's hard enough trying to pick out how to do this in the first place,
>> from the myriad of examples and tips/tricks/hacks/etc that are out there...
>>
>> Any help would be extremely appreciated :D
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Dave
>>
> 

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[css-d] footerStickAlt method not working on my site

2006-06-08 Thread Brett Leber
Please see http://dawkins.ctat.cs.cmu.edu/

My goal is the same as footerStickAlt [1]. I can't get this footer to 
stick to the bottom of the page in any browser.

My guess is that this has something to do with a series of background 
images that are generally not being computed as part of 'height'. Or 
perhaps the use of absolute positioning. I'm really at a loss.

Sorry there is so much to look at on this page. It's a local copy of a 
live site.

Thanks,

Brett

[1] http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/08/29/#content

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[css-d] Class not activating color aspects

2006-06-08 Thread Scott Haneda
Can someone help me with this one:


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a.selected {
color: red;
font-weight: bold;
}

I get the bold, but not the red
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Re: [css-d] Class not activating color aspects

2006-06-08 Thread Els
Scott Haneda wrote:
> Can someone help me with this one:
>
> 
>Home |
>Who are we? |
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>class='selected'>Clients |  href="/talk/index.ws">Lets Talk 
>
> a.selected {
>color: red;
>font-weight: bold;
> }
>
> I get the bold, but not the red

Since you're not giving the actual context of the snippet, I can 
only guess:
You probably have set a colour for ul#navlist a, and to override 
it with just a class, you'd have to add the parent's selector 
too. IOW, the following will probably work:
#navlist a.selected {
color: red;
font-weight: bold;
}

If not, provide a url so we can look at the rest of the code.

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Re: [css-d] Class not activating color aspects

2006-06-08 Thread Scott Haneda
> Since you're not giving the actual context of the snippet, I can
> only guess:
> You probably have set a colour for ul#navlist a, and to override
> it with just a class, you'd have to add the parent's selector
> too. IOW, the following will probably work:
> #navlist a.selected {
> color: red;
> font-weight: bold;
> }
> 
> If not, provide a url so we can look at the rest of the code.

I fixed the | as per the other email, tried your suggestion, did not work:
http://cbi.newgeo.com/why/index.ws
http://cbi.newgeo.com/css/main.css

Thanks for the help.
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Re: [css-d] IE layout - losing margin on a two column layout???

2006-06-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dave Re wrote:
> In fact, it's specifically floating the image that causes the 
> problem. If I comment out the float, the margin of the containing div
>  stays in the right place (of course, the image isn't in the right 
> spot, but...)
> 
> Anyone have a clue for me?? I obviously can't seem to find one :)

I've forgotten which number in the looong series of IE-bugs we're
dealing with here, but if anything else fails then the following /will/
work.

Add this just above the *next* image in the source-code - the
left-floating one...



...and even IE will clear properly and stop adding width to the
container. Give that clearing  a proper class for those styles,
and don't bother trying to use another element for that clearing.

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Re: [css-d] Class not activating color aspects

2006-06-08 Thread David McFarland

On Jun 8, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Scott Haneda wrote:

>> Since you're not giving the actual context of the snippet, I can
>> only guess:
>> You probably have set a colour for ul#navlist a, and to override
>> it with just a class, you'd have to add the parent's selector
>> too. IOW, the following will probably work:
>> #navlist a.selected {
>> color: red;
>> font-weight: bold;
>> }
>>
>> If not, provide a url so we can look at the rest of the code.
>
> I fixed the | as per the other email, tried your suggestion, did  
> not work:
> http://cbi.newgeo.com/why/index.ws
> http://cbi.newgeo.com/css/main.css

You have this in your CSS file:


#navlist a:link, #navlist a:visited {
color: #000;
text-decoration: none;
}


#navlist a:link has the same specificity as #navlist a.selected. The  
second style listed will win, so the link is black for the .selected  
link. Try reversing the order of the styles in your style sheet:

#navlist a:link, #navlist a:visited {
color: #000;
text-decoration: none;
}
#navlist a.selected {
color: red;
border: 1px solid red;

}

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Re: [css-d] Class not activating color aspects

2006-06-08 Thread Jim Nannery
Affrternoon Scott

You wrote


> Can someone help me with this one:
>
> 
>Home |
>Who are we? |
>Why Us? |
>Our Approach  |
>Clients |
>Lets Talk
> 
>
> a.selected {
>color: red;
>font-weight: bold;
> }
>
> I get the bold, but not the red
> -- 

If all you want is bold red text for the link make these changes

 in the CSS;
.selected a{ <-- reverse the .selected and the A
color: red;
font-weight: bold;
}

And in the html;

Home |
Who are we? |
Why Us? |
Our Approach |

Clients | <---  
move the selector from the anchor to the * * and use double quotes not 
single..

Lets Talk


Tested locally in FF 1.5.0.4 and IE 6.0 win xp pro sp2...

hth

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Re: [css-d] Class not activating color aspects

2006-06-08 Thread Scott Haneda
> Clients | <---
> move the selector from the anchor to the * * and use double quotes not
> single..

Is there any solid ref on use of ' over " in html and css?

Thanks for the help with the other stuff, got it working now.
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Re: [css-d] IE layout - losing margin on a two column layout???

2006-06-08 Thread Dave Re
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
> 
> 
> ...and even IE will clear properly and stop adding width to the
> container.

 Georg,

 You are definitely the man - that fixes it, thanks! It does add a small
amount of space into the document, pushing the text down some. Any way to
correct that at all??

 Damn IE anyway... :D

> Give that clearing  a proper class for those styles,
> and don't bother trying to use another element for that clearing.

 By this, do you mean use this  tag workaround instead of using
"clear: left;" or "clear: right;" in my img styles?

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Re: [css-d] IE layout - losing margin on a two column layout???

2006-06-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dave Re wrote:
> It does add a small amount of space into the document, pushing the 
> text down some. Any way to correct that at all??

You can try to pull up the image and paragraph below the clearing by a
few pixels - using negative margin and/or just adjusting the styles
you've got.

> Damn IE anyway... :D

Oh, it's such a nice bughouse... err... browser. Wouldn't be many
challenges left in web design without it :-)

>> Give that clearing  a proper class for those styles, and 
>> don't bother trying to use another element for that clearing.
> 
> 
> By this, do you mean use this  tag workaround instead of using 
> "clear: left;" or "clear: right;" in my img styles?

Correct. And move those inline-styles I used, to your stylesheet.

There are many cases when nothing but a styled  element will make
an impression on IE/win, for reasons found in its buggy history, I
guess. That's /one/ reason why I still use that br-element for clearing
a lot, even though it may make sense to use other solutions.
IE simply doesn't react sensibly, and I'm tired of arguing with its
buggy engine.


Now, is there a chance IE-users could be allowed to resize that text
too? :-)

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[css-d] Jumping DIV in IE

2006-06-08 Thread petichok
Hi list!

I'm having a strange problem with a jumping, floated/positioned div in 
IE 6 (and possibly lower). On the page:

http://clarkson.edu/projects/nanobird/3.4.php
(CSS: http://clarkson.edu/projects/nanobird/style.css and 
http://clarkson.edu/projects/nanobird/style_ie55.css)

the "Section Progress" box in the upper right-hand side 
(id="nav-progress-container-a") doesn't like to play nicely like in 
Safari and Firefox. When I just use the normal "style.css" styles, IE6 
places the nav-progress-container-a div off the right side of the page, 
even with the top of the navbar instead of placing it directly 
underneath. I found a fix that I thought was working by positioning it 
absolutely with right: 0 (done in the style_ie55.css sheet). However, 
then I noticed that the box is initially drawn covering the search bar 
(the bottom half of the navbar) and only when the page is resized or 
one of the links are rolled over does it jump down to its proper home.

I thought it might be a hasLayout issue so I added "zoom: 1;" to 
everything I could think of, but that didn't seem to do anything. The 
div already has layout (seen through the IE DOM Toolbar).

Can anyone help me with this, or suggest a better way of getting the 
box to stay just below the navbar? Thanks!


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[css-d] Layout Problems Appearing in Opera

2006-06-08 Thread Roy Anger


I'm having a little trouble with some layout on a site. The site is 
displaying the way I want it to in IE 6, Firefox on Windows and Firefox 
on Linux.  The site, however, is not displaying correctly in Opera 8.51 
and 8.54 on Windows. The menu is getting mangled, and some of the footer 
elements are not lining up correctly. Before I spend time trying to 
figure it out, I was hoping someone on the list might be aware of what 
is causing these issues and hopefully that can save me some time.

Thanks,
Roy

P.S. I don't have access to a Mac, so if someone could provide some 
screen caps, I'd really appreciate that.
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