Re: [css-d] IE bug? Left-floated nav bar flickers in IE only

2006-08-10 Thread francky
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Hi,
 
I am desperate.  I have a simple school site launching in a week and can't 
find a fix! I have this issue ONLY in Internet Explorer.
 
I have a left nav bar that is floated to the left. Each link in the nav bar is 
a list item. Within the lists item, the a link has ah a different color for 
the hover mode.  My issue is this: This nav bar renders correctly on Opera and 
FireFox, but not on IE 6.0.   On IE, the left nav flickers whenever the 
pointer hovers, a very nasty, jarring effect.   What could be wrong? 
 
Here my URL for the web page:  http://www.elcarmelo.paloaltopta.org/  
(production site)
OR
http://cpotochny.com/PTA/  (development site)
 
And the style sheet: http://cpotochny.com/PTA/PTA.css  (on the developlment 
site)
 
I am copy/pasting the styles that pertain to the lef nav below, if that's 
easier:
#navigation {
 padding: 0px;
 margin-top: 40px;
 margin-right: 0px;
 margin-bottom: 0px;
 width: 175px;
 float: left;
 position: relative;
}
 
#navigation ul {
 margin: 0px;
 list-style-type: none;
 padding: 0px;
}

#navigation li {
 border-bottom-width: 2px;
 border-bottom-style: solid;
 border-bottom-color: #FF;
 margin: 0px;
 padding: 0px;
}

#navigation a:link {
 font-weight: bold;
 color: #FF;
 text-decoration: none;
 display: block;
 padding: 9px 5px 9px 0.5em;
 margin-right: 1px;
 font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
 font-size: 0.9em;
 background-image: url(images/gradientW175.gif);
 background-repeat: repeat-y;
 border-left-width: 5px;
 border-left-style: solid;
 border-left-color: #66;
 width: 175px;
}
#navigation a:visited {
 font-weight: bold;
 color: #FF;
 text-decoration: none;
 display: block;
 padding: 9px 5px 9px 0.5em;
 margin-right: 1px;
 font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
 font-size: 0.9em;
 background-image: url(images/gradientW175.gif);
 border-left-width: 5px;
 border-left-style: solid;
 border-left-color: #66;
 background-repeat: repeat-y;
 width: 175px;
}
#navigation a:hover {
 font-size: 0.9em;
 display: block;
 color: #FF;
 background-image: url(images/gradient_hoverW175.gif);
 width: 175px;
}
#navigation a:active {
 font-weight: bold;
 color: #FF;
 text-decoration: none;
 display: block;
 padding: 9px 5px 9px 0.5em;
 margin-right: 1px;
 font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
 font-size: 0.9em;
 background-image: url(images/gradientW175.gif);
 background-repeat: repeat-y;
 width: 175px;
}
 
Christine
  

Hi Christine,
First I checked the html: the html-validator 
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elcarmelo.paloaltopta.org%2F.

* Some errors, never good for IE (and others).

After repairing, the flashing IE was still there ... but also I noticed 
uncommon behavior in FF: refreshing the page did hide some images! After 
some more analysis I noticed there is a difference in the links to the 
two urls where the page is.
In your own site, the calling of images from outside is forbidden, but 
with different effects for IE and FF. - It is the vDeck machine on 
your site, which causes this.
Compare: this testpage 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-dragon.htm
in FF and IE, trying in both browsers to refresh (refresh-button) and to 
reload (Go-button). In FF: after a short flash of the middle image: 
nothing! And: clicking on the link to the image in your site: for FF the 
door is closed, but not for IE.
So: ??? - Anyway, the vDeck must be the dragon! ;-)

Back to the question. In a test page, I pointed all images to the 
paloaltopta-site, but this didn't help.
Conclusion: indeed, it is IE himself ...
IE is not fast enough to change between the normal state (gradient) 
background of a list item, and the background-img for the hover-state.
Solution is to apply two simplifications:

* The normal state of all li's is the same, so the gradient-img can
  be used as a background for the whole ul; the white
  border-bottom of the li's will divide the li's optical. In this
  way, the fall back image is already there, and there is no chaning
  of the li backgrounds needed to come there again.
* For the hover state there is no need of a separate hover
  background image: is has a solid color, so can be replaced by
  changing only tyhe background-color of a hovered li.

Is it true?
Testpage! 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-carmelo-new.htm 
:-)

Succes with the deadline,
francky

btw:
Also in the header are some simplifications possible: no need for 
floating, some text-align rules can do it. Then it will go better when 
the font size is enlarged by a visitor. (See source code in the test page.)


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Re: [css-d] Horizontal Nav Menu

2006-08-10 Thread francky
Dean Champeau wrote:

Help!  For some reason, I can't figure out a simple horizontal  
menu... Nothing complicated, no dropdowns or submenus. Just a simple  
set of A tags that I'd like to be displayed horizontally in  
uniformly-sized blocks. I'm using an unordered list, and I've set my  
LI tags to inline and then the enclosed A tags to block.  
Shouldn't that work? For some reason, the A blocks go on their own  
lines. I want them to stay on the same line. I have a feeling I'm  
missing one little thing to make this work. 
[...]
  

Hi Dean,
Your feeling is right! :-)
Delete the block for the a's , and ... hocus pocus ... they don't 
display as a block (each on a new line below each other).
Testpage is here 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-dean.htm.

Greetings,
francky
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[css-d] pure css pop up

2006-08-10 Thread Terry O'Leary
Hi

I'm having a problem with a css menu, the idea is that when the list
element is hovered over the menu is displayed. My code works on FF,
Safari but not IE, when i hover in IE nothing happens, see the code
below, any ideas i've tried a few tweaks to no avail.


CSS Code:

/* regional choice menuing */
#regional_choice{
clear:both;
width:390px;
margin:auto;
position:relative;
top:10px;
left:160px;
}
#regional_choice ul{
float:right;
position:relative;
top:-5px;
left:-10px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style: none;
width: 135px;

}
#regional_choice ul li {
position: relative;
}
#regional_choice li ul {
position: absolute;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
display: none;
border:1px solid black;
padding:10px;
background:url(_images/region_bg.jpg) no-repeat;
z-index:30;
}
#regional_choice ul li a {
display: block;
text-decoration: none;
color: navy;
padding: 5px;
}
#regional_choice ul li a:hover {
color:#66;
}
#regional_choice li:hover ul { display: block; }

HTML code:

div id=regional_choice
style=padding-right:30px;font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;font-size:0.7em;font-weight:bolder;color:#808080;text-align:right;margin-bottom:-11px;

span style=float:left;
You're currently in the Americas region.
/span

ul
   lia href=# style=color:#777;img
src=_images/region_menu.gif border=0 /Change region./a

ul
liCanada/USA/li
lia href=http://www.arcolectric.co.uk/index2.html;Europe/a/li
lia href=http://www.arcolectric.co.uk/index2.html;Rest of the
world/a/li
/ul
/li
/ul
/div


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Web Developer @ The Elektron Group

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[css-d] Vertical spacing strangeness

2006-08-10 Thread Ian Piper
I have just done an update of a site and have noticed something  
strange. The menu buttons on the left navigation look fine on Safari  
and IE but not on Firefox: the vertical spacing in Firefox is about  
twice what it should be.

http://www.bizzytots.com/

I'm sure it's something simple but another pair of eyes would be  
really useful.

Thanks,


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Re: [css-d] pure css pop up

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Terry O'Leary wrote:
 Hi
 
 I'm having a problem with a css menu, the idea is that when the list
 element is hovered over the menu is displayed. My code works on FF,
 Safari but not IE, when i hover in IE nothing happens, see the code
 below, any ideas i've tried a few tweaks to no avail.

Unfortunately IE doesn't support :hover on anything but a elements.  I 
think IE7 does, though (anyone know?)


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[css-d] mac/ie5.2 float drop @ 800

2006-08-10 Thread David Laakso
Browsercam shows one of the center float columns (#nav) dropping in 
mac/ie5.2 (osx 10.3 and 10.4) @ 800 screen resolution.
browsercam captures:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=275870
site uri: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/
css: embedded
Seeking fix (or condolence :-) ).
Thanks.
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[css-d] page jumping in FF if not enough text

2006-08-10 Thread metasilk
In Firefox/Win (several versions), I'm finding that although these two pages
differ only in amount of  text (and not at all in style or php), when I
switch from one to another, the page jumps (to the left going from the first
to the second, back to the right otherwise).  I know that if I add or delete
text so that the footer appears on both or on neither when the page loads
this jumping stops.

It does not happen in IE 6.02/Win, even with the differing lengths of text.

Can someone tell me what's happening, and how to suppress this behavior
without having to have a lot of empty space (without some sort of min-height
div)?

Thanks!!

Pages:
http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/publicpart.php
http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/grantwriting.php

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Re: [css-d] page jumping in FF if not enough text

2006-08-10 Thread Mike A
metasilk wrote:
 In Firefox/Win (several versions), I'm finding that although these
 two pages differ only in amount of  text (and not at all in style or
 php), when I switch from one to another, the page jumps (to the left
 going from the first to the second, back to the right otherwise).  I
 know that if I add or delete text so that the footer appears on both
 or on neither when the page loads this jumping stops.

 It does not happen in IE 6.02/Win, even with the differing lengths of
 text.

 Can someone tell me what's happening, and how to suppress this
 behavior without having to have a lot of empty space (without some
 sort of min-height div)?

 Thanks!!

 Pages:
 http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/publicpart.php
 http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/grantwriting.php

Start by making sure your document validates - there seem to be a number of
validation errors! You're using XHTML Strict so, for example, you should not
use border= in mark-up (set in CSS). Then perhaps repost?

Mike A.


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[css-d] Problems with IE, position:absolute and content stretched

2006-08-10 Thread Thomas
Hello!

 

I've got a problem with my homepage. In firefox everything is fine, but in
IE it's not. Here is the url, so you can see what I mean:

 

http://www.erdeanthomas.de/

 

In IE, the content-div is stretched under the rsidebar und lsidebar, but it
should be between. I gave the lsidebar und rsidebar a constant width,
because of the two pictures (sunset).

Why does IE take the border of the body to define the width, and not like
firefox the border of the two sidebars, and what can I do?

 

Second problem are the two pictures (sunset). My footer contains a second
div named footer-inside, my whole page is build up like that. I set these
pictures with position:absolute to the footer-inside div, to provide that
they are parallel in height und at the bottom of the page. The footer-inside
div is centered in IE, but I don't know why?

 

Here is my style.css:

 

http://www.erdeanthomas.de/wp-content/themes/thomas/style.css

 

And here is my index.php:

 

http://www.erdeanthomas.de/wp-content/themes/thomas/index.phps

 

 

 

Regards, Thomas

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Re: [css-d] Show more text using CSS

2006-08-10 Thread Janet Chang
At 03:08 PM 8/9/2006, Christian Heilmann wrote:
  Basically, we need some way to code a Show More function that would
  allow
  us to take a long piece of text, shorten it to X maximum lines, then
  have a
  Read more link that when clicked would display the rest of the 
 text on
  the page below the first half.
 
 There you go:
 http://icant.co.uk/sandbox/morecontentlinks/
 
 I didn't use any fancy word counting or anything, but instead you need
 to set a div with the class more around all the elements you want
 hidden.

Great, thanks! I will play around with implementing it on our pages. One
more thingHow would you do a Hide link to make the extra text
disappear after you're done reading it?

Added this functionality...

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Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com
Writing: http://icant.co.uk/

Thanks, Chris. I was able to get the code you sent to work with our text. 
However, I'm wondering if there's a much less complicated formula for 
getting this to work like that blog site without having to link to 4 js files?  


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Re: [css-d] page jumping in FF if not enough text

2006-08-10 Thread David Laakso
metasilk wrote:
 In Firefox/Win (several versions), I'm finding that although these two pages
 differ only in amount of  text (and not at all in style or php), when I
 switch from one to another, the page jumps (to the left going from the first
 to the second, back to the right otherwise)..]
   
It is not happening on my end (if I understand what you mean). You may 
have experienced short-page shift. If that's what it was, this 
articlehttp://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=528A0 by Zoe 
Gillenwater explains it  and offers solutions.
 Pages:
 http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/publicpart.php
 http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/grantwriting.php

   

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Re: [css-d] page jumping in FF if not enough text

2006-08-10 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Kir,

It's the lack/presence of vertical scrollbars. Add this fix to your CSS 
file, and then build pages that validate :-)

html {height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0.1px; font-size: 100%;}

Regards,
- Rahul.


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[css-d] page jumping in FF if not enough text

2006-08-10 Thread metasilk
Dear Mike  css-crew:

 metasilk wrote:
  In Firefox/Win (several versions), I'm finding that although these
  two pages differ only in amount of  text (and not at all in style or
  php), when I switch from one to another, the page jumps (to the left
  going from the first to the second, back to the right otherwise).  I
  know that if I add or delete text so that the footer appears on both
  or on neither when the page loads this jumping stops.
 
  It does not happen in IE 6.02/Win, even with the differing lengths of
  text.
 
  Can someone tell me what's happening, and how to suppress this
  behavior without having to have a lot of empty space (without some
  sort of min-height div)?
 
  Thanks!!
 
  Pages:
  http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/publicpart.php
  http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/grantwriting.php

 Start by making sure your document validates - there seem to be a number of
 validation errors! You're using XHTML Strict so, for example, you should not
 use border= in mark-up (set in CSS). Then perhaps repost?

 Mike A.


Thanks for the quick reply! It's valid XHTML  CSS now. But... still
jumping! So, reposting.  (Tricksy stuff, this. )
http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/publicpart.php
http://www.gmavt.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/grantwriting.php

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[css-d] page jumping in FF if not enough text: FIXED (short-page shift)

2006-08-10 Thread metasilk
Hey, thanks David  Rahul (and Zoe) for the fix! It's working (of
course). You guys are great.

 metasilk wrote:
  In Firefox/Win (several versions), I'm finding that although these two pages
  differ only in amount of  text (and not at all in style or php), when I
  switch from one to another, the page jumps (to the left going from the first
  to the second, back to the right otherwise)..]

 David Laakso wrote:
 It is not happening on my end (if I understand what you mean). You may
 have experienced short-page shift. If that's what it was, this
 articlehttp://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=528A0 by Zoe
 Gillenwater explains it  and offers solutions.

 Rahul Gonsalves wrote:
 It's the lack/presence of vertical scrollbars. Add this fix to your CSS
 file, and then build pages that validate :-)

 html {height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0.1px; font-size: 100%;}


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[css-d] Hover problems in IE

2006-08-10 Thread Tim Offenstein
I'm working with a page I inherited that is exhibiting strange hover 
problems in IE.

http://www.als.uiuc.edu/default-1.htm

The Quick Links section hover is not acting according to the style 
sheets. In Firefox it behaves correctly but in IE the Hover causes 
the main photo to shift about 10px to the left and lines to appear 
across the entire page.

Any ideas or hacks come to mind?

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[css-d] New to CSS and need help positioning

2006-08-10 Thread Kathryn Olds
Hi,
I'm new to CSS - about 3 weeks into it. I've been working on this page
trying to get CDs to line up under each other and off to the right, the
corresponding MP3 list to listen, and chord charts next to that. Can anyone
look at this and see where I've gone wrong, please? Thanks in advance.

Link: www.blastoffmusic.org/downloads/downloads2.php

Kat

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[css-d] a body footer

2006-08-10 Thread ross
Is a footer 100% width that is anchored to the bottom of the browser possible?

Couldn't find any tutorials


Ta,

R. 
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Re: [css-d] a body footer

2006-08-10 Thread Christian Heilmann
 Is a footer 100% width that is anchored to the bottom of the browser possible?

 Couldn't find any tutorials

Ok, seriously, are you taking the micky?

http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=HundredPercentHeight
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FooterInfo

I keep getting the impression you are just here to ask questions that
are already on the wiki and have been resolved dozens of times.
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[css-d] Display image on hover - not working in IE6

2006-08-10 Thread Tom Keenan
Once again I'm having trouble with IE6.

I have a page which displays a list of artists names for a gallery.  
When the user hovers their cursor over the name it displays a  
thumbnail of their artwork to the right of the list of names. Works  
fine in all the normal suspects (Firefox, Opera, Safari…) but not in  
IE6. I am already using csshover.htc and it works fine as can be seen  
in the menus.

The URL is
http://www.aegisgallery.com/artists/index.html

The CSS is:
http://www.aegisgallery.com/basic.css

The relevant part of the CSS starts at line 109 with #artists.

Suggestions?

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Re: [css-d] Show more text using CSS

2006-08-10 Thread David Laakso
Janet Chang wrote:
 At 03:08 PM 8/9/2006, Christian Heilmann wrote:
   
 Basically, we need some way to code a Show More function that would
   
 allow
   
 us to take a long piece of text, shorten it to X maximum lines, then
   
 have a
   
 Read more link that when clicked would display the rest of the 
   
 text on
   
 the page below the first half.
   
 There you go:
 http://icant.co.uk/sandbox/morecontentlinks/

 I didn't use any fancy word counting or anything, but instead you need
 to set a div with the class more around all the elements you want
 hidden.
 
 Great, thanks! I will play around with implementing it on our pages. One
 more thingHow would you do a Hide link to make the extra text
 disappear after you're done reading it?
   
 Added this functionality...

 --
 Chris Heilmann
 Book: http://www.beginningjavascript.com
 Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com
 Writing: http://icant.co.uk/
 

 Thanks, Chris. I was able to get the code you sent to work with our text. 
 However, I'm wondering if there's a much less complicated formula for 
 getting this to work like that blog site without having to link to 4 js 
 files?  

   
Can't answer for Chris, don't know anything about javascript; and you 
did not provide, nor do I have, the link to the blog site you mention or 
your site.
Since hot-metal has about as much relevance on a css list as javascript, 
I'd consider a print media method.
Set the first p default flush left/scatter right.
Then each  succeeding  p at  at a reduced font-size and reduced lead 
with an indent first sentence.

Best,
~dL

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Re: [css-d] Display image on hover - not working in IE6

2006-08-10 Thread Tom Keenan
For anyone who may have worked on this - I apologize.

I did what I always preach - after I sent my email. I tried  
validating the html and css. (Thought I had already done that.) And  
the small errors - which seemed irrelevant - fixed the problem.

Mea culpa.


Tom Keenan
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On Aug 10, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Tom Keenan wrote:

 Once again I'm having trouble with IE6.

 I have a page which displays a list of artists names for a gallery.
 When the user hovers their cursor over the name it displays a
 thumbnail of their artwork to the right of the list of names. Works
 fine in all the normal suspects (Firefox, Opera, Safari…) but not in
 IE6. I am already using csshover.htc and it works fine as can be seen
 in the menus.

 The URL is
 http://www.aegisgallery.com/artists/index.html

 The CSS is:
 http://www.aegisgallery.com/basic.css

 The relevant part of the CSS starts at line 109 with #artists.

 Suggestions?

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Re: [css-d] Show more text using CSS

2006-08-10 Thread Dave Pierce
Janet justifiably interjected...

 Basically, we need some way to code a Show More function  
 that would

 allow

 us to take a long piece of text, shorten it to X maximum  
 lines, then

 have a

 Read more link that when clicked would display the rest of the

 text on

 the page below the first half.

(snip, slash)

 Thanks, Chris. I was able to get the code you sent to work with our  
 text.
 However, I'm wondering if there's a much less complicated formula for
 getting this to work like that blog site without having to link to  
 4 js files?


Janet,

Just a question from a beginner...wouldn''t it just be a lot easier  
to make a second page like the first, except with the extended text  
on it the way you want it to look? T'would certainly save a lot of JS  
and coding hassle...

Just a thought.

Dave Pierce
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Re: [css-d] Show more text using CSS

2006-08-10 Thread Christian Heilmann
  Thanks, Chris. I was able to get the code you sent to work with our
  text.
  However, I'm wondering if there's a much less complicated formula for
  getting this to work like that blog site without having to link to
  4 js files?


 Janet,

 Just a question from a beginner...wouldn''t it just be a lot easier
 to make a second page like the first, except with the extended text
 on it the way you want it to look? T'would certainly save a lot of JS
 and coding hassle...

 Just a thought.


!--more-- in Wordpress :-)

This is all off-topic for CSS by now, so let's stop.

There is a CSS only hack: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/more.html


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Re: [css-d] Navigation - Roll-Over Effect

2006-08-10 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Mathew,

Change your #nav a:hover to #mainnav a:hover. That seems to fix it for me.

Finally, an error I can help with :-).


Regards,
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Re: [css-d] Navigation - Roll-Over Effect

2006-08-10 Thread Bethany
At the end of the CSS file you have #nav a:hover instead of #mainnav a:hover

- Bethany


On 8/10/06, Matthew Stoneback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Need some guidance with something..



 I developed a main navigation bar for a client's site using a
 demonstration from the book, Bulletproof Web Design.  In doing this, I
 changed some of the CSS and XHTML to suit my design.  After everything was
 all said and done, I can not get the roll-over effect to work (Hovering
 Swap).  I believe have made a mistake in the last CSS rule as everything
 was
 looking good before then.  Can anyone spot the problem?



 Here are the links to my test HTML and CSS documents.



 XHTML: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/test_pages/navtest.htm



 CSS: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/test_pages/navtest.css



 Thanks in advance for your help.



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Re: [css-d] New to CSS and need help positioning

2006-08-10 Thread Kathryn Olds
Having started learning CSS only three weeks ago, my site does have some
tables. However, in my defense, I did create 2 table-less pages index and
gallery last week. So not all hope is lost! :-D

I did what you suggested Tyson and that helped a lot; however, my text still
runs together. I've uploaded it again. I even tried a margin-top to see if
it helped. Nope. Any ideas? Thanks again!

Kat

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:06 AM
To: Kathryn Olds
Subject: Re: [css-d] New to CSS and need help positioning


Eeek! Tables for layout! Evil!

Anyways, add clear: left to your CDContent class.

-Tyson

On 8/10/06, Kathryn Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm new to CSS - about 3 weeks into it. I've been working on this page
 trying to get CDs to line up under each other and off to the right, the
 corresponding MP3 list to listen, and chord charts next to that. Can
anyone
 look at this and see where I've gone wrong, please? Thanks in advance.

 Link: www.blastoffmusic.org/downloads/downloads2.php

 Kat

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Re: [css-d] Navigation - Roll-Over Effect

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Stoneback
Ah yes I was up way too late last night and could not figure it out.  I
am a little red in the face, but thankful.

Thanks,

Matthew Stoneback


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[css-d] Header not there on IE

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Stoneback
After the last help, let me try another problem I posted once before.

 

Alright everyone, my CSS and URL is linked below.  Basically what I am
trying to do is float the header image over top of the rest of the page.
I wanted to make the header image overlap the main content area as well as
the left side nav bar.  The layout looks great (and correct) in all of the
browsers except Internet Explorer.

 

As last time - any help would be greatly appreciated.  I am new to designing
with CSS and am trying to learn how to do things by the standards.

 

CSS: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/style/tams.css

 

URL: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/index1.htm

 

Description of Desired Layout:
http://www.eddysound.com/tams/Design%20Problem.bmp

 

If a screen shot is needed for better understanding just let me know and I
will show you what I have going on here on my system.

 

Thanks,

 

Matthew Stoneback

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Re: [css-d] Header not there on IE

2006-08-10 Thread cj
taking out the float: left from #main popped the logo right up for
me.  with this in mind, i suggest not even floating the #main.  you
don't need to from what i see.  simply give #main a left margin wide
enough to accomodate the left navigation.

off the original topic, i get a scroll bar in my browser, which is
always set to 800x600.  if you're trying to accomodate this resolution
(and it seems like you are since your min width is 600), try going to
574px or so.  remember the scrollbar and the borders of the browser
take away from that 600px width.
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[css-d] Interesting problem in Firefox (latest) on Windows 2000

2006-08-10 Thread Phillip Smith

Hi there,

Hoping I might be able to get a little advice on this annoying issue  
that I struggled with (for too long!) this morning. I have a site  
with a simple horizontal tabbed navigation (http://www.copycamp.ca)  
and it look good across all (most?) major browswers _except_ for  
Firefox on Windows 2000. This is something I've not come across  
before, as I usually find that sites viewed in Firefox on OS X and  
Windows are often identical. The issue is the 2px space between the  
tabs and the #content div.

Any thoughts appreciated. And, if you could CC me, that would be  
super, as I'm on digest. Also, I suspect that there are many other  
improvements that could be made -- so please feel free to make  
them.  :-)

Many thanks in advance,

Phillip.



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Re: [css-d] mac/ie5.2 float drop :: resolved

2006-08-10 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote:
 Browsercam shows one of the center float columns (#nav) dropping in 
 mac/ie5.2 (osx 10.3 and 10.4) @ 800 screen resolution.
 browsercam captures:
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=275870
 site uri: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/
 css: embedded
 Seeking fix (or condolence :-) ).
 Thanks.
 ~dL
This has been resolved thanks to an off-list reply from Holly Bergevin. 
Holly's solution was to feed a narrower width to the column within a 
mac-only filter.
/*\*//*/
#nav {width: 14%!important;}
/* width adjustment for mac ie5.2 */
Thank you, Holly!
David

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Re: [css-d] Header not there on IE

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Stoneback
Cj - thanks for the help, I have fixed and uploaded the files to the same
address.  It still looks great in everything but IE.  The header is there,
but the layout has been devastated,  Any ideas?

Btw, I knew I needed to adjust the fixed size.  Thanks for the reminder.
Once I get all the other bugs worked out, I am going to scale down the 600px
section.

Thanks again for the help,

Matthew Stoneback


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[css-d] A floated column leaps leftward if IE window is resized

2006-08-10 Thread metasilk
Hey again,

I have a floated column that should appear on the left. It's less
important info, so in order that the content appear as high in sourcse
as possible, this left-col uses negative margins.

It works just fine in FireFox (haven't tested Opera yet, and have
trouble getting to Safari-running machines). On the other hand, if I
resize the window in IE/Win, the column leaps to the right, and stays
there unless I reload the page. Yikes!

Can you help?

One of the afftected pages:
http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/pubclient.php
the relevant CSS file:
http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/style/3s_basic.css

Thanks!

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Re: [css-d] Hover problems in IE

2006-08-10 Thread Tim Offenstein
I haven't resolved this but decided to let go of the nice hover 
background color for now. The whole effort works great on 
http://www.kch.uiuc.edu (another page I did). But on the ALS page 
there's a wild float somewhere messing IE up. I can't locate a 
reference to the IE hover/float issue that I read about some time 
ago, if anyone has a reference to pass my way, it would be greatly 
appreciated.

-Tim

I'm working with a page I inherited that is exhibiting strange hover
problems in IE.

http://www.als.uiuc.edu/default-1.htm

The Quick Links section hover is not acting according to the style
sheets. In Firefox it behaves correctly but in IE the Hover causes
the main photo to shift about 10px to the left and lines to appear
across the entire page.

Any ideas or hacks come to mind?

-Tim
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[css-d] ie css spacing problem

2006-08-10 Thread Melinda Odom
Hi,

Could someone please tell me how to fix this spacing problem in the left
menu for ie only?
http://www.landisbrewer.com/agents2.html

The css is #links for the link images.

Thank you!

Sincerely,
Melinda Odom
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Re: [css-d] ie css spacing problem

2006-08-10 Thread Melinda Odom
I just found this hack which seems to be working:
/* Holly Hack: Hide From IE5/Mac \*/ * html img { margin: 0px 0;
vertical-align: middle; } * html input { margin: 0px 0; vertical-align:
middle; } /* Holly Hack: End Hide From IE5/Mac */

Always seem to find the fix right after you mail to the list for help :)

Sincerely,
Melinda Odom
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To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: ie css spacing problem


Hi,

Could someone please tell me how to fix this spacing problem in the left
menu for ie only?
http://www.landisbrewer.com/agents2.html

The css is #links for the link images.

Thank you!

Sincerely,
Melinda Odom
Design Hosting, Inc.
www.designhosting.biz
479-471-0891
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[css-d] IE7 - Extra bottom margin on flyout navigation items

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Cole
IE7 is adding, what appears to be, extra bottom margin to my navigation list
items.  I'm using a CSS flyout method that I found at
http://solardreamstudios.com/learn/css/cssmenus/


I've posted an example at:
http://www.stanford.edu/~aaronc/navTest.htmlhttp://www.stanford.edu/%7Eaaronc/navTest.html

There is a green background on the ul element to make the extra spacing more
obvious (it only shows up in IE7).

The source of the problem seems to be caused by the selector found at line
38 in the source code.

ul#navmenu li {
  display: block !important;
  display: inline;
  position: relative;
}

I'm open to using another method if someone has one.

Any ideas?

TIA,
Aaron
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Re: [css-d] Header not there on IE

2006-08-10 Thread cj
i don't remember what all i changed here, but you can look through it
and compare it to yours.  keep in mind that in order to change css on
my computer i had to save the page to my machine, so your image
locations are off in this paste.


#header {
height: 100px;
left: 50px;
position: absolute;
top: 25px;
width: 700px;
z-index: 1;
}
#header img {
border: 1px solid #00;
}
#completepage {
background-color: #cc;
border: 1px solid #00;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
}
#sidebar {
background-image: url(../images/sidebar.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
color: #ff;
float: left;
width: 200px;
}
#sidebar div.padding {
padding-left: 20px;
padding-right: 20px;
padding-top: 150px;
}
#main {
margin-left: 200px;
}
#main div {
padding-left: 15px;
padding-right: 15px;
}
#navigation {
padding-top: 150px;
}
p.navbar {
border: 1px dashed #00;
font-size: 1.3em;
padding: 5px;
text-align: center;
}
#content {
}
.clearfix:after {
clear: both;
content: .;
display: block;
height: 0;
visibility: hidden;
}
/* save ie/mac \*/
* html .clearfix {
height: 0;
}/* end save */
#footer {
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
text-align: center;
}
body {
background-color: #99;
color: #00;
font-family: Palatino, Times New Roman, Times, serif;
font-size: 1em;
}
p {
}
h1 {
font-size: 1.5em;
font-weight: bold;
}
h2 {
font-size: 1.3em;
font-weight: bold;
}
h3 {
font-size: 1em;
}

#leftnav {
width: 160px;
}
#leftnav ul {
list-style-type: none;
padding: 10px;
}
#leftnav li {
border-bottom: 1px dashed #ff;
padding-bottom: 5px;
padding-top: 5px;
text-align: center;
}
#leftnav li.top {
border-top: 1px dashed #ff;
padding-top: 5px;
}
#leftnav a {
color: #ff;
text-decoration: none;
}
#leftnav a:visited {
color: #ff;
}
#leftnav a:hover {
color: #66;
}
#leftnav a:active {
text-decoration: none;
}
.heading {
text-align: center;
}
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Re: [css-d] Is this doable using css? (align, margin, headers)

2006-08-10 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Erik,

 I have a tricky question.

 First have a look at this image http://dev.heureka.se/CSSProblem.jpg .

 Without changing the html markup I want to align the anchors along the
 red line (~100px from the left edge). The emphasized text can be of
 different lengths.

 div class=adblock
 h2
 ema class=adtype-40 href=# title=Säljes/a/em
 a href=#Dior skor/a
 span title=Inlagd(13 jul)/span
 /h2
 ...
 /div

Consider giving the EM element a fixed width corresponding to the
images' width and float it left.
To keep the text aligned with the following link also change the line
height to 1.2/0.7, which is approximately 1.71:

  .adblock h2 em { /* AdType */
font-size : 0.7em;
font-style: normal;
text-transform: uppercase;
display   : block;
float : left;
width : 100px; /* image width */
line-height   : 1.71em;
  }

Cheers,

jens
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[css-d] Class Won't Apply Itself

2006-08-10 Thread Chris Akins
I'm confused over classes that sometimes just won't apply.

Page in question:

www.springfieldmogov.org/founders/concerts.html

CSS:
www.springfieldmogov.org/css/founders.css

The list of concerts on this page should NOT be showing any bullets,
custom or otherwise.  But in IE it does, despite the UL having been
given a class=noBull  That class successfully negates the custom
bullets in other browsers.

But, even in other browsers, the bullets wouldn't go away by JUST
defining a class rule like:

.noBull {list-style:none;}

and then applying that class to a ul in my html code.

I couldn't get the bullets to disappear until explicitly defining the rule as:

#content .noBull {list-style:none;}

Why?

How can I get IE to eliminate the bullets on this page and respect the
.class=noBull?
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[css-d] Using a:active on the focus page

2006-08-10 Thread Spencer Ivery
CSS-D List:
 
Currently, I am trying to make pseudo-class selector e.g., .class a:active
work on a
page where the selected navigation link remains highlighted in a different
color. 
 
Does anyone have any examples of this?
 
Thanks,
 
~S
 

 
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Re: [css-d] Using a:active on the focus page

2006-08-10 Thread Don Miller
#act {width :120px; background-color : blue; color : white;} (placed on the
page)

a class=xyz id=act href=page.htmlYour Page Name/a

This is a simple example but it works.  The only problem is that it goes on
each page.  There may be better ways but this works in all the browsers I
have checked.

Don


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[css-d] Test Navigation Incorporated into Site - Doesn't Work

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Stoneback
Once again, hello to all.

 

So I have been helped out twice today and once again I wanted to say thanks.
My new problem is incorporating my test navigation into my site.

 

Test Nav URL: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/test_pages/navtest.htm

 

My index page with the about navigation added in:
http://www.eddysound.com/tams/index.htm

 

My CSS Document: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/style/help.css

 

As you can see, when I place the navigation into my HTML document and add
the CSS into my help.css file, something strange happens.  On top of
everything, the list style reappears in every browser but IE.. Weird!  Any
ideas on how to make this navigation function?

 

I want the navigation to sit flush against the left side navigation and
extend all the way across the light grey area.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Matthew Stoneback (Mr. I am full of problems today.)

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[css-d] Fluid layout problem IE

2006-08-10 Thread Dr. Martin Krumme
Is there a way to prevent IE6 from pushing the sidebar content under the 
maincontent when resizing the window to a small width? In FF the layout 
(please do not take notice of the colours) works, but I have that 
problem with IE.

http://www.bonn-castell.de/test/template.php

Thank you!
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[css-d] One floating li ? (Converting a table to li)

2006-08-10 Thread Henrik Jutterström
Hi All!

New to the List I'm looking for help on a problem with a td that has a
*-width..

I dont understand how this is supposed to be done i CSS for coding
Strict Valid html.

Hos is this done? Can anyone help me?

table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
tr
td width=100a href=/a/ class=menyLankA/a/td
td width=100a href=/b/ class=menyLankB/a/td
td width=100a href=/c/ class=menyLankC/a/td
td width=100a href=/d/ class=menyLankD/a/td
td width=*nbsp;/td  -- This is the one causeing me problems..
td width=100a href=/e/ class=menyLankE/a/td
td width=100a href=/f/ class=menyLankF/a/td
/tr
/table


Best Regards
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[css-d] Problems with header

2006-08-10 Thread Roy Anger
I am working on a site at http://dev.northernfarce.com/gammaone/news.php

I am having some trouble getting the header to look right. It looks right in
Firefox on both Linux and Windows, looks close to right in Opera and looks
wrong in IE. For clarity's sake I have this screen cap taken from FireFox.
http://dev.northernfarce.com/gammaone/header.png That is what the header
should look like.

Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] Test Navigation Incorporated into Site - Doesn't Work

2006-08-10 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Matthew,

 My CSS Document: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/style/help.css

 As you can see, when I place the navigation into my HTML document and add
 the CSS into my help.css file, something strange happens.  On top of
 everything, the list style reappears in every browser but IE.. Weird!  Any
 ideas on how to make this navigation function?

you make use of SGML comment syntax in your Style sheet instead of CSS
comments, e.g. you use

!--beginning of left navigation styles--

instead of

/* beginning of left navigation styles */

Please change your erroneous syntax and see if the flawed rendering
still remains.

Cheers,

jens

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Re: [css-d] Is this doable using css? (align, margin, headers)

2006-08-10 Thread Erik Dahlstrand
 Consider giving the EM element a fixed width corresponding to the
 images' width and float it left.
 To keep the text aligned with the following link also change the line
 height to 1.2/0.7, which is approximately 1.71:

   .adblock h2 em { /* AdType */
 font-size : 0.7em;
 font-style: normal;
 text-transform: uppercase;
 display   : block;
 float : left;
 width : 100px; /* image width */
 line-height   : 1.71em;
   }

 Cheers,

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Excellent! Vielen dank :-)

There is one more thing I forgot to ask about. In IE6 the divs are
moving around a few pixels when hovering the links. Any ideas?

/Erik
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Re: [css-d] Class Won't Apply Itself

2006-08-10 Thread Nils Kr. Falch
On 8/10/06, Chris Akins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why?

 How can I get IE to eliminate the bullets on this page and respect the
 .class=noBull?

I think it is an unexpected inheritance problem. where the more
generic list-style doesn't overrule the list-style-image property.

Anyway you can use this:
 #content .noBull {list-style-image:none;}

This should give you the expected result in IE.
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Re: [css-d] Test Navigation Incorporated into Site - Doesn't Work

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Stoneback
Jens -

Thank you for the help.  You were right; all I had to do was fix the comment
syntax and the navigation bar returned to normal.  I am starting to get the
hang of CSS slowly but surely.  Thanks!

Matthew Stoneback


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[css-d] DIV doesn't get heigt by content in FF, Opera etc.

2006-08-10 Thread Sebastian Dammark
In the link below i have 2 DIV's. (red and black border)

In IE the DIV's get their height from the amount of content.
But that doesn't happen in FF, Opera etc.

Any fix or explanation?

http://www.dammark.net/files/html/autoliften/

Regards
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[css-d] Selected and Hover Effect Using CSS

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Stoneback
Problem -

 

I would like my main navigation to be yellow on each page as it is pulled up
by the browser.  I currently am using an external style sheet with this rule
included in it:

 

#mainnav a:hover, #navigation #home a {

color: #00;

padding-bottom: 5px;

border-color: #00;

background: #cc url(../images/yellow_main_nav.gif) repeat-x
top left;

}

 

This works for making all of the #mainav to have a hover / image swap
effect, but only leaves the home tab highlighted on each page instead of
switching as each page is pulled from the server.  I know I can put a CSS
rule in each individual HTML file to have the correct button yellow per
page, but I was wondering if there was a way to do this effect from an
external style sheet.  I have been looking all over the web, and found some
diagrams on how to do this, but none are completed by using just CSS.  Am I
missing something?

 

Here is the URL: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/index.htm

 

Go from the home page to each of the other pages and you will see that
Home stays yellow on each page instead of switching to the proper tab.

 

Any help?

 

Thanks,

 

Matthew Stoneback

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Re: [css-d] Interesting problem in Firefox (latest) on Windows 2000

2006-08-10 Thread francky
Phillip Smith wrote:

Hi there,

Hoping I might be able to get a little advice on this annoying issue  
that I struggled with (for too long!) this morning. I have a site  
with a simple horizontal tabbed navigation (http://www.copycamp.ca)  
and it look good across all (most?) major browswers _except_ for  
Firefox on Windows 2000. This is something I've not come across  
before, as I usually find that sites viewed in Firefox on OS X and  
Windows are often identical. The issue is the 2px space between the  
tabs and the #content div.

Any thoughts appreciated. And, if you could CC me, that would be  
super, as I'm on digest. Also, I suspect that there are many other  
improvements that could be made -- so please feel free to make  
them.  :-)

Many thanks in advance

Hi Phillip,
On my Win98SE I see also a difference between FF and IE: FF (vs. 1.0.7) 
is showing the 3px gap under the tabs. Like the world is upside down: I 
thought IE had the copyright for the 3px bug! ;-)
My suggestion should be to fix the html-errors first, for the 
error-handling of browsers on different systems can be different.
The html-validator has some tips 
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.copycamp.ca%2Fnode.
After that, the css-validator can work too (1 error in 
copycamp/style.css 
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.copycamp.ca%2Fthemes%2Fcopycamp%2Fstyle.css).

If this doesn't work, you could try to add {margin-top:-3px;) for the 
#content, like you did for IE in the conditional comment (maybe some 
more padding-bottom in the tabs is needed for compensation).

Other suggestion: the font size of the #content tastes a bit too heavy, 
while the font-size of the side bar on the right side is a bit too 
small. I guess a better balance can be made. Example in screenshot here 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/screenshot-copycamp.png.

Greetings,
francky
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Re: [css-d] DIV doesn't get heigt by content in FF, Opera etc.

2006-08-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sebastian Dammark wrote:
 In the link below i have 2 DIV's. (red and black border)
 
 In IE the DIV's get their height from the amount of content.
 But that doesn't happen in FF, Opera etc.
 
 Any fix or explanation?
 
 http://www.dammark.net/files/html/autoliften/

FF, Opera etc. are behaving correctly: containers shall not expand 
beyond given dimensions - unless told to do so.

IE expands everything by default *when* we give an element dimensions, 
because of its 'hasLayout'[1] bug.


Solution: tell FF, Opera etc. to expand and contain what's inside, 
regardless of given dimensions - i.e.: make container behave like a table...

#topholder, #contentholder {display: table;}

...and allow contentarea to grow too...

#contentarea {height: auto;}

regards
Georg

[1]http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
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