[css-d] 3 col layout problem
I have a problem at http://www.webdev-academy.com/test-layout/. The page validates. The main problem is that IE6 throws the layout on browser resize. It also has what looks like FOUC. Other browsers sort of keep the format on browser resize. Hoping someone can provide feedback or direct me to a similar layout that works (searched for ages without luck). Thanks! Mike A. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] click on link causes layout shift?? second click works fine. FF only.
Hi all, I am brand new to the list, which means i'm a bit bleary-eyed and flustered. Yeah, we've all been there. I'm not hearing voices or anything yet, but I am seeing the little wavy lines. So I hope you will excuse any patches of rambling incoherence that I might drift into. I thank you in advance for your civility. Now where was I? I'm making this site, it's retarded simple, and yet I came up against problems both when trying to lay it out with CSS and tables -- so i've settled on this hackneyed mix of the two. And it seems to work fine. It's all laid out now, and I'm just fiddling with the last details, like making the links live. And then BOOM. When I click on the links, rather than going to the specified url, the whole layout changes -- gets skinny. at this point, the links work. And for once in my life, it works fine from the start in IE6. I'm only getting the problem in FF. And it only happens in the divs that make up the body of the page -- no problems with the links that make up the navbar (a table with class selectors). Also, if you make the browser window skinny BEFORE opening the page AND THEN click on the links, they work fine the first time. I'm baffled. My assumption is that the problem is with something in my div styles. I'm hoping that it's not a result of a mixed table / css layout. But basically once you make the layout skinny, it always works. here's the html: (I'm talking about the links in the body NOT the navbar) http://minivanswebsite.com/testsite/index.html css is here: (I'm talking about links contained in div#rightcol and div#leftcol) http://minivanswebsite.com/testsite/steez.css Ok. time for beer. Any wisdom would be much appreciated. jo5h __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] click on link causes layout shift?? second click works fine. FF only.
snak detek+0r wrote:
When I click on the links, rather than going to the specified url,
the whole layout changes -- gets skinny. at this point, the links
work.
http://minivanswebsite.com/testsite/index.html
Tables work a bit different on the Gecko-side of the fence, so the whole
family seems to be a bit lost.
You can always stiffen up the table by adding...
table.main {width: 890px;}
* html table.main {width: 910px;}
...and maybe also add...
table.main {table-layout: fixed;}
...to replicate IE/win's table-handling in Gecko. It'll behave perfectly
stable then.
BTW: I think you should write proper HTML comments, if only to avoid
those cascading error-messages...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fminivanswebsite.com%2Ftestsite%2Findex.htmlcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inliness=1group=0
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[css-d] a tags and display:block
Hello,
So I'd like to have an a tag that looks like a button, I do it like this:
a {
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
display: block;
width: 120px;
padding: 2px 3px;
margin: 0 1px;
font-size: 12px;
border-top: 1px solid #CCC;
border-left: 1px solid #CCC;
border-right: 1px solid #666;
border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
link, visited and hover states after this...
But if I want that look, to line up NEXT to each other on one line...
pa href=One/a a href=Two/a a href=Three/a/p
It displays them in a column, not a row.
Is there a way to get the uniform width and line them up in a row?
Thanks
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Re: [css-d] a tags and display:block
Hi,
Try changing display: block; to display: inline;
Elli
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Hello,
So I'd like to have an a tag that looks like a
button, I do it like this:
a {
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
display: block;
width: 120px;
padding: 2px 3px;
margin: 0 1px;
font-size: 12px;
border-top: 1px solid #CCC;
border-left: 1px solid #CCC;
border-right: 1px solid #666;
border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
link, visited and hover states after this...
But if I want that look, to line up NEXT to each
other on one line...
pa href=One/a a href=Two/a a
href=Three/a/p
It displays them in a column, not a row.
Is there a way to get the uniform width and line
them up in a row?
Thanks
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Re: [css-d] a tags and display:block
Thanks, I got it to work form another email to try float:left, seemed to
work.
Thanks
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Hi,
Try changing display: block; to display: inline;
Elli
--- Cyber Cog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
So I'd like to have an a tag that looks like a
button, I do it like this:
a {
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
display: block;
width: 120px;
padding: 2px 3px;
margin: 0 1px;
font-size: 12px;
border-top: 1px solid #CCC;
border-left: 1px solid #CCC;
border-right: 1px solid #666;
border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
link, visited and hover states after this...
But if I want that look, to line up NEXT to each
other on one line...
pa href=One/a a href=Two/a a
href=Three/a/p
It displays them in a column, not a row.
Is there a way to get the uniform width and line
them up in a row?
Thanks
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Re: [css-d] a tags and display:block
Good, I guess there are several ways to achieve what
you want. Either use {display: block; float: left;} or
{display: inline;} or frankly leave out the display
property all together since the a tag is by default an
inline element and what is giving your a tags the
button look is your other styles, i.e. the width and
border styles.
My suggestion would be to leave out unnecessary code
where it is not needed.
Elli
--- Cyber Cog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, I got it to work form another email to try
float:left, seemed to
work.
Thanks
On 11/5/07, Elli Vizcaino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Try changing display: block; to display: inline;
Elli
--- Cyber Cog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
So I'd like to have an a tag that looks like a
button, I do it like this:
a {
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
display: block;
width: 120px;
padding: 2px 3px;
margin: 0 1px;
font-size: 12px;
border-top: 1px solid #CCC;
border-left: 1px solid #CCC;
border-right: 1px solid #666;
border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
link, visited and hover states after this...
But if I want that look, to line up NEXT to each
other on one line...
pa href=One/a a href=Two/a a
href=Three/a/p
It displays them in a column, not a row.
Is there a way to get the uniform width and line
them up in a row?
Thanks
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Re: [css-d] a tags and display:block
On 11/5/07, Elli Vizcaino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good, I guess there are several ways to achieve what
you want. Either use {display: block; float: left;} or
{display: inline;} or frankly leave out the display
property all together since the a tag is by default an
inline element and what is giving your a tags the
button look is your other styles, i.e. the width and
border styles.
My suggestion would be to leave out unnecessary code
where it is not needed.
Elli
--- Cyber Cog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, I got it to work form another email to try
float:left, seemed to
work.
Thanks
On 11/5/07, Elli Vizcaino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Try changing display: block; to display: inline;
Elli
--- Cyber Cog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
So I'd like to have an a tag that looks like a
button, I do it like this:
a {
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
display: block;
width: 120px;
padding: 2px 3px;
margin: 0 1px;
font-size: 12px;
border-top: 1px solid #CCC;
border-left: 1px solid #CCC;
border-right: 1px solid #666;
border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
link, visited and hover states after this...
But if I want that look, to line up NEXT to each
other on one line...
pa href=One/a a href=Two/a a
href=Three/a/p
It displays them in a column, not a row.
Is there a way to get the uniform width and line
them up in a row?
Thanks
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I'm heading out now, but I'll play with this a bit when I get back.
Thank you!
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Re: [css-d] a tags and display:block
Umm not seeing your reply in this email. Resend?
Elli
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On 11/5/07, Elli Vizcaino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good, I guess there are several ways to achieve
what
you want. Either use {display: block; float:
left;} or
{display: inline;} or frankly leave out the
display
property all together since the a tag is by
default an
inline element and what is giving your a tags the
button look is your other styles, i.e. the width
and
border styles.
My suggestion would be to leave out unnecessary
code
where it is not needed.
Elli
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[css-d] Mysterious dissappearing content part 2!
Hello everyone, I am being asked to launch this site and while everything shows up in Safari and Firefox, and Dreamweaver is saying that it doesn't detect any browser issues, I am still faced with a blank page when I go to this url: http://bipster.com/html/order_credit.html http://bipster.com/html/order.css I know it's probably one of those Duh!(smack the forehead) things but if you are willing to lend a fresh pair of eyes, I would most appreciate it. Thank you, Jenn _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Glitch with Dean Edward's IE7 Script
Hey list, I am putting together a new website and using Dean Edward's IE7 Script at http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ - not sure how many of you have used this, but Eric is definitely a huge promoter of it (it was a big part of his speech at An Event Apart, Chicago). Anyway, with this Javascript applied I'm noticing a weird glitch - this is in a file also using Eric's reset styles, so there's no default browser behaviors interfering. If there are any background colors on elements, IE6 (but not IE7 or any other browser) seems to ignore bottom padding, margins, and height and has the background color going all the way to the very bottom of the element. This happens with both div and li elements, and is only fixable by either setting a background color to match the container (which is not ideal for expansive layouts) or by removing the script entirely (in which case, margins, padding, and height are all recognized by the background color). Any ideas for a fix? If you need a screenshot I can certainly set that up! Thanks! Tim IM: TymArtist __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] click on link causes layout shift?? second click works fine. FF only.
You can always stiffen up the table by adding...
table.main {width: 890px;}
* html table.main {width: 910px;}
...
table.main {table-layout: fixed;}
Well, of course it works, so I must say you're a total genius. :)
I gave up and went to bed when I posted, but I did suspect that forcing
a fixed table width would solve the problem. What threw me off is the
fact that I had to click *twice* before those links would work. I was
affraid that even if I fixed the width, I would still have to click
twice. But now that I've tried it I see this is not the case. I am
relieved, but still curious. Can you think why this might be?
Also, I tried each of those styles individually and only
table.main {width: 890px;}
actually works. Should I leave the others in there for good measure, do
you think? Or is this just creating unnecessary clutter?
Lastly, how did you decide on the values you used -- 890 910 ? I know
I was aiming for a width of 900, but do you have a tool that will
calculate widths for you? Or were you doing it in your head?
BTW: I think you should write proper HTML comments, if only to avoid
those cascading error-messages...
Good idea! I know that dreamweaver has been complaining, but now that
I've heard it from a human, I've gone and read about it. I'll start
making my lines out of =.
My sincerest thanks for helping me both with my layout AND my coding
style! And, btw, that's a healthy looking cow you've got there. Wish we
had more like that in this country!
jo5h
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[css-d] Disappearing Content issue
Hello everyone, I am being asked to launch this site and while everything shows up in Safari and Firefox, and Dreamweaver is saying that it doesn't detect any browser issues, I am still faced with a blank page when I go to this url: http://bipster.com/html/order_credit.html http://bipster.com/html/order.css I know it's probably one of those Duh!(smack the forehead) things but if you are willing to lend a fresh pair of eyes, I would most appreciate it. Thank you, Jenn _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] click on link causes layout shift?? second click works fine. FF only.
snak detek+0r wrote: Well, of course it works, so I must say you're a total genius. :) Geniuses sure come cheap these days ;-) Lastly, how did you decide on the values you used -- 890 910 ? I know I was aiming for a width of 900, but do you have a tool that will calculate widths for you? Or were you doing it in your head? I never trust any tools and _never_ my head, so I tested what the browsers could take and how they reacted on it. IE6 complains when given values below 910, while others were ok with as low as 890. So ... I gave each of them the lowest they could take, after comparing with your self-shrinking original. IE6 probably has a white-space problem, but I didn't bother to look further. BTW: I think you should write proper HTML comments, if only to avoid those cascading error-messages... Good idea! I know that dreamweaver has been complaining, but now that I've heard it from a human, I've gone and read about it. I'll start making my lines out of =. That's what HTML Tidy turned them into at my end. I don't decorate my source-code with comments, so Tidy rarely ever get a chance to correct them. My sincerest thanks for helping me both with my layout AND my coding style! And, btw, that's a healthy looking cow you've got there. Wish we had more like that in this country! Me too. You get what you ask for in this market-oriented world, so maybe you're not asking for the right thing in your country..? regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Mysterious dissappearing content part 2!
that page aint there! you sure you have the document name spelled corretcly? etc...? tired eyes'll do that to ya. jo5h Jenn Mears wrote: Hello everyone, I am being asked to launch this site and while everything shows up in Safari and Firefox, and Dreamweaver is saying that it doesn't detect any browser issues, I am still faced with a blank page when I go to this url: http://bipster.com/html/order_credit.html http://bipster.com/html/order.css I know it's probably one of those Duh!(smack the forehead) things but if you are willing to lend a fresh pair of eyes, I would most appreciate it. Thank you, Jenn _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Stumped on Safari Float
Ok, you've shamed me into doing some clean-up work today. I've eliminated 60 of the 62 HTML validation errors (the 2 remainders are part of the Share-This plug in... and I can't quite figure out how to crush them)... I also cleaned up all the CSS and it now validates fully. So my Safari float problem remains. Anyone have any idea what the problem might be... Thanks again... - Matt On Nov 3, 2007 12:32 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: For some reason, Safari and me don't get along... at least with this project! Take a look at this: http://www.scienceprogress.org/ Look at the items under Science Progress Blog Under Firefox and IE-Win, the thumbnails float to the right as defined in the CSS, but in Safari, the float doesn't seem to apply at all. What am I doing wrong? Surely I'm missing something simple? I've spent an hour trying to rework the CSS six different ways, and no matter what I do, it looks perfect... just not in Safari... Thanks in advance, - Matt No clue here, either. Could any, among the 62, markup validation errors have anything whatsoever with it? Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] New url for disappearing content issue in ie6
Hello again! I am so sorry to bug everyone with this again, but it turns out that the IT people CHANGED the URL after I left for the day! Here is the correct one: http://www.bipster.com/beta/order_credit.html Mainly, my issue is that the page's side navigation and content is not showing up, just the top banner. This should be the path to the CSS: http://www.bipster.com/beta/order.css The page shows up in Safari, Firefox and IE7, but not IE6 on our monitors at the office. Any input would be greatly appreciated and thank you for letting me know that the previous url was incorrect! TIA, Jenn _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] New url for disappearing content issue in ie6
Jenn Mears wrote:
...
http://www.bipster.com/beta/order_credit.html
Mainly, my issue is that the page's side navigation and content is
not showing up, just the top banner. This should be the path to the
CSS:
http://www.bipster.com/beta/order.css
...
top_banner /
side_nav /
main_body /
#top_banner {
width: 100%;
...
float: left;
}
#side_nav {
position:absolute;
...
width:200px;
}
#main_body {
position: absolute;
...
}
Most IE disappearance bugs are related to floats and position:absolute.
IE cannot determine the correct placement of a a.p. element following a
float.
A fix could be to unfloat #top_banner (for IE-only if the float is
needed to contain floating child elements)
Another fix is not for sensitive persons: add clear:left to #side_nav.
The best fix would be to drop the usage of position:absolute as a main
layout principle.
But the book by Andy Clarke reads: choosing positioning over floats is
best practise. We should discuss this in more detail once IE6 is history.
regards,
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Re: [css-d] Stumped on Safari Float
On Nov 6, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Matt wrote: So my Safari float problem remains. Anyone have any idea what the problem might be... Thanks again... - Matt On Nov 3, 2007 12:32 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: For some reason, Safari and me don't get along... at least with this project! Take a look at this: http://www.scienceprogress.org/ Look at the items under Science Progress Blog Under Firefox and IE-Win, the thumbnails float to the right as defined in the CSS, but in Safari, the float doesn't seem to apply at all. The pics float:right correctly in Safari 2.04, WebKit builds and Safari 3.03beta. OS X 10.4.10. You don't say which version of Safari you are testing... Safari 2.04 and older can be quite stubborn in caching stylesheets. Reloading a couple of times usually solves that. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
