[css-d] homogeneous horizontal arrangement of images

2008-01-21 Thread Ingo Chao


I'd like to know how to get a homogeneous horizontal arrangement of 
images. The number of images is sometimes 3, sometimes 4.

First I thought of display:table-cell, but that would require a 
inline-block-solution for IE lte 7 anyway. And it would force a 
table-row, a one-liner.

Here, I'm trying to solve with text-align:justify. Since any last line 
of justified text isn't justified, I had to insert a span to emulate a 
last line.

But I have the feeling there must be something much simpler. Did not 
test if it is stable.


!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;

html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
title/title
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
meta name=author content=Ingo Chao /

style type=text/css
#wrapper {
text-align: justify;
width: 100%;
overflow-x: hidden; /* IE hor. scrollbar */
}

img {
border: 1px solid red;
padding: 5px;
vertical-align: middle;
}
#wrapper span {
display: inline;
display: inline-block; /*Opera*/
padding-left: 100%; /*force a new line*/
}
/style
/head

body
div id=wrapper
img src=# alt=image /
img src=# alt=image /
img src=# alt=image /
img src=# alt=image /
span!/span
/div
/body
/html

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[css-d] Endnotes in CSS with alternate stylesheets and font-size: 0pt. Looking for a better way.

2008-01-21 Thread david riggs
Dear List,

Endnotes are one of the main hurdles to weaning academics away from MS 
Word to the freedom of open standards markup. I have worked out a way 
with xslt, but its really overkill, and I would like to find a simple 
way to do notes with just CSS, and help encourage friends to do things 
the right way.

The following is one rather clumsy technique, which works in Firefox 
2.0.0.6/Linux. I hope someone else has a better way.

Endnotes need to be auto-numbered, so you can add and delete them at 
will, and easy to enter and update. The following shows one easy way to 
mark them up (inside the n element):

htmlhead
link href=main.css  rel=stylesheet type=text/css /
link href=endnotes.css title=endnotes rel=alternate stylesheet 
type=text/css /
titleEndnotes with CSS/title
/headbodyh2CSS Comments/h2

pCSS is useful for many things, but applying it to academic writing is 
an exercise in frustrations.nBut see Eric Meyer, iCSS the Definitive 
Guide/i for a superb analysis of what can be done with CSS./n One of 
the practical problems is the difficulty of remembering the syntax of 
both CSS and XML at the same time.nI recommend the O'Reilly iPocket 
Reference/i series./n/p

/body/html


To display them with the main text, the main.css erases the note text 
with font-size 0pt, and adds a calculated number as the endnote number.

file main.css:
* { font-size: 13pt; font-family: Freeserif; }
body {counter-reset: n-num;}
n, n  i { font-size: 0pt;}
n:before {vertical-align: 50%; font-size: 10pt;
   counter-increment: n-num; content: counter(n-num)  ;}


To display just all the notes together, open another window, load the 
text and select View/Page Style/endnotes (which is put in your browser 
pull down by the second link...  line above.)

file endnotes.css
body {counter-reset: n-num;}
* { font-size: 0pt; font-family: Freeserif; }
n { font-size:14pt; display: block;}
n i {font-size: inherit;}
n:before {font-size:10pt; vertical-align: 50%;
  counter-increment: n-num; content:  counter(n-num) ) }


 
This technique has the advantage that you can look at the endnotes all 
at one time. If you want to see just one as you are reading the main 
text, you can alt-F4 to the other browser window. The common technique 
of href'ing to the note means that you have to jump around, and also it 
is not so easy to have automatic number. Seeing the notes all at once is 
crucial: I often start reading an article by going through the notes.

I used the font-size: 0pt; because the seemingly more appropriate 
display:none and visibility: hidden will not work here for various reasons.


So, thats what I have. Isn't there a better way than hacking around with 
font-size: 0pt? And I cannot find a way of embedding alternate style 
sheets in the  main file itself. The usual xslt hack of href'ing to an 
id (href=#mycss1) results in a garbled cascade, not a true alternate 
stylesheet.

Thanks,

David
Oberlin
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Re: [css-d] vertical-align property examples/info

2008-01-21 Thread Rob Emenecker
Thanks for that link Ernie,
 
After reading through I realize two things. First, that there are limits to
using it similar to table cells, because it only applies to inline elements.
Second, that to get it to behave like table cells, requires some amount of
CSS hacks. 
 
While I do believe that tables should be used for tabular data, or very
minimal layout aspects. At the point I am having to employ CSS hacks to
avoid using a table (or using indeterminant top/bottom padding, my
preference is to use a table. Afterall, hacks are less-likely to be future
proof than a basic table construct (or even falling back on top/bottom
paddings to achieve a similar result).
 
...Rob

Rob Emenecker @ Hairy Dog Digital
www.hairydogdigital.com
 

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Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:16 PM
To: Rob Emenecker; 'CSS Discussion'
Subject: RE: [css-d] vertical-align property examples/info


Hi Bob,have a look at
http://www.ibloomstudios.com/articles/vertical-align_misuse/
 
Ernie :)





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 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:16:36 -0500
 Subject: [css-d] vertical-align property examples/info
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone point me to good sources of info and simply examples for uses
of
 the vertical-align property other than TD elements? 
 
 I've looked at the CCS 2.1 spec at
 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-vertical-align, but don't
 quite understand what is considered a  inline-level element for applying
 vertical-align properties.
 
 So, I still end up falling back on table constructs in certain cases where
I
 am trying to apply a vertical-align. This usually happens in forms, and
I'm
 trying to get away from using tables for drop back and punt layout
 control.
 
 Best,
 Rob
 
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Re: [css-d] Please help me fix a DIV's position vertically but not horizontally.

2008-01-21 Thread Philippe Combes
Hi all,

Thank you, Georg, for having taken time to answer me.
It's a pity that what I desired is not possible, whereas I started to think 
that 
CSS makes everything possible :-)
I decided to place my left-side menu with absolute position and put the 
right-side of the page into an iframe.
Thus the menu is always visible when the user scrolls down, but also when he 
scrolls left, which makes him unable to benefit from the full width of his 
browser window to read the true content... unfortunately.

I would like to get rid of that iframe, though, but keeping the same effects.
I read of
   overflow: auto;
to make a scrollable div. This would be ideal for me if only I was able to set 
the dimensions of that div as follows:
  height: height of the viewport;
  width:  width of the viewport - width of the left-side menu;

If I use height: 100%; then my scrollable div (which has the longest content on 
the page) is taken as the reference for the total height of the page. And then, 
the left-side menu disappears when I scroll down...
I could use
   position: fixed;
for the menu, but then we are back to the original problem: when horizontal 
scrolling is performed, then the menu overlaps the content...

I have googled quite extensively (but not enough ?) about viewport dimensions, 
but I did not find any solution.
Has anyone any idea of how I could achieve with CSS stuff only the same effects 
as with my iframe ?
(I would really appreciate to avoid this iframe, because the content needs 
already two files, plus the - cached - images...)

I would like to avoid tables too for pure CSS, but that is another matter, and 
I 
guess I should post with another subject...

Thanks in advance,

Philippe

PS: The test page can be found at
http://graal.ens-lyon.fr/~pcombes/MUMPS_test/test.html

It is emacs-made and fully commented because it is ought to be maintained by 
people who do not know CSS (but with good experience of programming...)
So if anyone have time to have a look at it and give some comments, they would 
be very welcome.

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Re: [css-d] Endnotes in CSS with alternate stylesheets and font-size: 0pt. Looking for a better way.

2008-01-21 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
david riggs wrote:
¨
 Endnotes are one of the main hurdles to weaning academics away from MS
 Word to the freedom of open standards markup. I have worked out a way
 with xslt, but its really overkill, and I would like to find a simple
 way to do notes with just CSS, and help encourage friends to do things
 the right way.

Just CSS isn't enough for anything, since CSS needs a marked-up 
document to attach to. But there are several approaches to footnotes and 
endnotes even when using just HTML and CSS; see
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www/fn.html
The crucial question is the intended use: would it be on screen, on 
paper, or both? The second question is whether a particular presentation 
style should be used, as often dictated by publishers or academic 
institutions. If the

 Endnotes need to be auto-numbered, so you can add and delete them at
 will, and easy to enter and update.

Using just HTML or XML together with CSS, this restricts you to use on 
minority browsers, since IE doesn't support auto-numbering. If 
auto-numbering is essential, it could be handled using a preprocessor or 
using server-side techniques such as PHP. We don't need to do 
_everything_ in CSS.

 pCSS is useful for many things, but applying it to academic writing
 is an exercise in frustrations.nBut see Eric Meyer, iCSS the
 Definitive Guide/i for a superb analysis of what can be done with
 CSS./n One of the practical problems is the difficulty of

You seem to use HTML markup with a custom n element. This may work 
in a restricted environment, but you need not resort to custom markup 
if you accept some verbosity, such as span class=fn.../span 
instead of n.../n.

On the other hand, either approaches results in the footnote appearing 
in the midst of text, with no indication of its being meant as a 
footnote, when your style sheet is not used. If it is important to 
degrade gracefully, you would need added verbosity, at least something 
like

span class=fp(/spanspan class=fn.../spanspan 
class=fp)/span

with

.fp { display: none; }

(more or less in the spirit of Ruby markup). This shouldn't be an 
obstacle, if the markup is programmatically generated anyway, in order 
to generate the numbering.

 To display them with the main text, the main.css erases the note
 text with font-size 0pt,

That's a _bad_ idea for several reasons. Among other things, it fails on 
browsers with a minimum font size setting, as well as when using a user 
style sheet that forces some specific font size. I can see why you are 
not using the obvious  display: none here, and I don't see an obvious 
better alternative.

But I'm not convinced at all that this approach is adequate. Why would 
you scatter the footnote texts into the text, instead of putting them at 
the end of a document and inserting just footnote references (as links) 
into the text?

 n:before {vertical-align: 50%; font-size: 10pt;
counter-increment: n-num; content: counter(n-num)  ;}

For a footnote reference, especially for screen use, something like 
[42] is better for usability than reduced-size superscript-position 
number alone. Try clicking on a digit in 10pt font size.

Moreover, vertical-align: 50% may have unexpected effects on line 
spacing, even when a reduced font size is used: a line containing such 
an element may get larger height than other lines. I think you should at 
least consider setting line-height.

 This technique has the advantage that you can look at the endnotes all
 at one time. If you want to see just one as you are reading the main
 text, you can alt-F4 to the other browser window. The common technique
 of href'ing to the note means that you have to jump around,

You can just put the footnotes in a separate HTML document and make the 
endnote references refer to it. You might even consider using frames, 
since this is one of the rare cases where frames would be useful, but 
few if any people seem to use frames for footnotes or endnotes.

Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca)
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ 

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[css-d] a couple of questions: dif style sheets and min height??

2008-01-21 Thread Rob freeman
Hello again everyone..


Just a couple of questions...

I have built a little site which uses png's. These images sit slightly
off the wrapper div. The image have a drop shadow which all works in
the latest browsers. Now, if I want to keep the shadow in explorer 6
and below I have to use a alpha filter, which I need to look into.

Has anyone used this filter for older browsers? and does the it
validate properly?

Or, could you use different images without shadows but only display
these for IE browsers 6 and below...Is this possible?



also,



Because the my sites type renders different on certain screens
resolutions, where the image on the right has an absolute position,
the contents section's height gets very small, almost allowing the png
file to touch the footer. Is there a way I can set a Min size height
to the content div? I dont want set a total height if possible.. It
needs to stay validated in all browsers..??


URL:
http://www.precociouscollective.com/testfolder/


Thanks for all your help..this is a great list..!



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[css-d] February 12th, 2008 - a Glorious day for web designers / developers

2008-01-21 Thread Jon Hughes
Microsoft is pushing an update on February 12th, 2008 that will
force-upgrade Internet Explorer to IE7.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946202 has the details.

Thank You,
- Jon Hughes
Phazm.com/notes
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Re: [css-d] CSS validates, but still can't get columns to work in IE

2008-01-21 Thread Pete Harrison
Thanks David, I have got it working better but still not correctly.

It seems that there is a bigger margin-left under IE6 than FF, and that
although I say 100% for the contentframe in my CSS, it doesn't fill the
parent container.

If you get chance to have another look, that would be great.

Regards
Pete 

-Original Message-
From: David Laakso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 January 2008 03:12
To: Pete Harrison
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS validates, but still can't get columns to work in
IE

Pete Harrison wrote:
 My page works fin in FF but fails to put the 4th column next to the 
 3rd in IE.
  
 The page is at www.biofuels-maritime.com/dev and the css is at 
 www.biofuels-maritime.com/bio.css
  
 Any ideas why this is?
  
 I know there are 4 lines of CSS that do not validate, but they are for 
 another page.
  
 Regards
 Pete
   



No guarantees. Holds to a window of approximately 630px width in IE6.0 
(local) no XP/Mac before float drop with these modifications:

th {
font-size:/*1.2em*/0.85em; --- reduce font-size  tweak
}
Delete these three selectors:
#c4 img {
max-width:98%;
}
#c3 img {
width:98%;
}
#c4 img {
max-width:98%;
display: block;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
margin-top:2em;
}
Add these selectors and tweak:
#c4 img, #c3 img {max-width: 95%; display: block; margin: 10px auto;}
* html #c4 img, * html #c4 img {width: 95%; margin: 2em 1%;}
Change the width of the table in the markup from 100% to around 90%.

Best,

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Re: [css-d] February 12th, 2008 - a Glorious day for web designers / developers

2008-01-21 Thread David Dorward
On 21/01/2008, Jon Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Microsoft is pushing an update on February 12th, 2008 that will
 force-upgrade Internet Explorer to IE7.

Sadly, it only applies to users of WSUS on XP or newer, and can be overridden.

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Re: [css-d] February 12th, 2008 - a Glorious day for web designers / developers

2008-01-21 Thread James Leslie

Microsoft is pushing an update on February 12th, 2008 that will
force-upgrade Internet Explorer to IE7.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946202 has the details.

---

Forgive my ignorance on server matters, but does this mean that all
machines running IE6 will be forced to upgrade to IE7?

Thanks
James
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Re: [css-d] February 12th, 2008 - a Glorious day for web designers / developers

2008-01-21 Thread Jon Hughes
 
 Microsoft is pushing an update on February 12th, 2008 that will
 force-upgrade Internet Explorer to IE7.
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946202 has the details.
 
 ---
 
 Forgive my ignorance on server matters, but does this mean that all
 machines running IE6 will be forced to upgrade to IE7?
 
 Thanks
 James
 __

That was my understanding, James, but it looks like it is just limited
to business-class customers.

Basically, the update is being pushed through a microsoft server
software that is for pushing updates to an array of computers (so the IT
dept. can install office on all computers on the network in one fell
swoop)

At least that's what I gather - I may be wrong (again)

 - Jon
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Re: [css-d] beginner's issues with spacing

2008-01-21 Thread David Laakso
Stuart Walsh wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
  
 I've got a homepage with a header which is a jpg. I'm using HTML Kit 
 to write the code and in that, and in IE there is no space above and 
 below the header jpg. But in Firefox and Opera there is space above 
 and below. I'm doing something wrong but I can't think what it is.
   

  
 Many thanks. I've implemented your suggestions. The page now works in 
 Firefox and Opera.








This is in reference to uri: http://www.revise-now.co.uk/A2Comms/

Good... on to bringing IE6 on board.  Please see revision of CSS and 
markup-- too many changes to note individually.

http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/temp.html

Cursory tested in compliant browsers at +2 font-scaling, and text-size 
largest in IE6  7.
G, I love to nit-pick.


Best,
~dL

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[css-d] Text rendering in FF

2008-01-21 Thread Mark Finney
Dear List,

This may be old hat, sorry if it is in the archives, but I have been unable
to find anything on it so far.

Basically I always use ems to specify font-size, and was re-doing a site
where the sizes had been specified in %s, out of force of habit i swapped
the measures to ems so I could better understand them. I discovered a vast
drop in quality in the rendering of the font in FF... Is it a known fact
that FF renders fonts defined in % better than ems? I have never picked up
on this before. Has anybody noticed this or know of any documentation on it?

TIA,

Mark
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Re: [css-d] CSS validates, but still can't get columns to work in IE

2008-01-21 Thread David Laakso
Pete Harrison wrote:
 Thanks David, I have got it working better but still not correctly.

 It seems that there is a bigger margin-left under IE6 than FF, and that
 although I say 100% for the contentframe in my CSS, it doesn't fill the
 parent container.

 If you get chance to have another look, that would be great.

 Regards
 Pete 


   


re: www.biofuels-maritime.com/dev and the css is at 


Dunno, Pete.
If IE6 is doubling the margins then adding display: inline; to the 
containers /may/ correct it (and not adversely effect other browsers).
Try adding this to your style sheet:
#c4, #c3, #c2, #c1 {
display: inline
}

Short of that (and a need to validate your markup and css files), I am 
afraid I have run out of suggestions.

Best,

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Re: [css-d] a couple of questions: dif style sheets and min height??

2008-01-21 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:47:13 +
Rob freeman wrote:

 Hello again everyone..
 
 
 Just a couple of questions...
 
 I have built a little site which uses png's. These images sit slightly
 off the wrapper div. The image have a drop shadow which all works in
 the latest browsers. Now, if I want to keep the shadow in explorer 6
 and below I have to use a alpha filter, which I need to look into.
 
 Has anyone used this filter for older browsers? and does the it
 validate properly?
 
 Or, could you use different images without shadows but only display
 these for IE browsers 6 and below...Is this possible?
 
 

Have you considered making the shadow a part of the original image. The
KISS rule applies here. Given it's position you could take a screen
snapshot including the edge of the background and resave it as a jpg.
24/32 bit PNG's are not really web friendly (very slow on dialup).

 
 
 Because the my sites type renders different on certain screens
 resolutions, where the image on the right has an absolute position,
 the contents section's height gets very small, almost allowing the png
 file to touch the footer. Is there a way I can set a Min size height
 to the content div? I dont want set a total height if possible.. It
 needs to stay validated in all browsers..??
 

min-height: is a valid css property but IE7 does not recognise it.

If you set your body font as a percentage then use EM's to scale it
(where 1em = 100%) you will resolve many font issues. Using percentages
throughout can result in trouble with nested font scaling (you get 90%
of 90%). To be honest i haven't taken the time to check if this is your
issue. Work beckons...

 
 URL:
 http://www.precociouscollective.com/testfolder/
 
 
 Thanks for all your help..this is a great list..!
 

Hope i have helped.

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Re: [css-d] a couple of questions: dif style sheets and min height??

2008-01-21 Thread Rob freeman
I'll have another look at 8bit png files. I'll check out the min
height css style too. I thought I had seen it somewhere but wasn't too
sure if ie understood it.

As for the navigation across the whole browser, well, I'm a little bit
restricted to the small amount of content, so i based the site on a
fixed width to contain what I had.

I'm still a novice when it comes to font styling using ems, though I
understand the upside of using them...


thanks for all your help so far,,

rob






On 21/01/2008, Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:47:13 +
 Rob freeman wrote:

  Hello again everyone..
 
 
  Just a couple of questions...
 
  I have built a little site which uses png's. These images sit slightly
  off the wrapper div. The image have a drop shadow which all works in
  the latest browsers. Now, if I want to keep the shadow in explorer 6
  and below I have to use a alpha filter, which I need to look into.
 
  Has anyone used this filter for older browsers? and does the it
  validate properly?
 
  Or, could you use different images without shadows but only display
  these for IE browsers 6 and below...Is this possible?
 
 

 Have you considered making the shadow a part of the original image. The
 KISS rule applies here. Given it's position you could take a screen
 snapshot including the edge of the background and resave it as a jpg.
 24/32 bit PNG's are not really web friendly (very slow on dialup).

 
 
  Because the my sites type renders different on certain screens
  resolutions, where the image on the right has an absolute position,
  the contents section's height gets very small, almost allowing the png
  file to touch the footer. Is there a way I can set a Min size height
  to the content div? I dont want set a total height if possible.. It
  needs to stay validated in all browsers..??
 

 min-height: is a valid css property but IE7 does not recognise it.

 If you set your body font as a percentage then use EM's to scale it
 (where 1em = 100%) you will resolve many font issues. Using percentages
 throughout can result in trouble with nested font scaling (you get 90%
 of 90%). To be honest i haven't taken the time to check if this is your
 issue. Work beckons...

 
  URL:
  http://www.precociouscollective.com/testfolder/
 
 
  Thanks for all your help..this is a great list..!
 

 Hope i have helped.

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[css-d] IE issues with element width

2008-01-21 Thread Douglas Peterson
www.captureintegration.com

I apologize for making this my first post. I hope I can make contributions to 
this community after I have a little more experience, but for now I am a lost 
newbie.

I have managed to style a Wordpress website to my liking after many months of 
experimentation (I am a photographer, not a web designer).

The website renders as I want it to in firefox and safari (both win and mac 
versions). In IE7 the main element is rendered too wide and is forced below the 
sidebar.  I've honestly tried googling to get an answer since I'm sure it is 
not complicated, but all I could find was references to quirks mode and I 
relatively sure I am not in quirks mode. Like I said, I am a photographer, and 
find it difficult to decode the gobbly-gook of cross-platform compatibility. 

Could someone give me a hand in figuring out why this element is wider in IE7 
than firefox/safari. I would really appreciate it!

Doug

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[css-d] Position image at bottom of cell containing text

2008-01-21 Thread John Nichel
Hi,

   With our company being between designers at the moment, some of the 
day to day tasks of our site have fallen into my lap (hey, you're in IT, 
you fix the web site).  What I'm trying to accomplish seems like it 
should be pretty simple, but the solution has escaped me.

   If you look at this page here: 
http://www.kegworks.com/product.php?productid=18754 you will notice that 
the Add to cart buttons under If You Like This, You May Also Like... 
do not line-up across the page.  I've been trying to force these input 
images to line up with the bottom of the table cell containing them, but 
nothing I've done seems to have worked.  I have tried using an 'inline 
style', tried creating a new style, etc.  I've used things like 
align=bottom, vertical-align: bottom|baseline|absbottom, etc.  However, 
the images stay in their current position.

   Can anyone give this old sysadmin some pointers, or point me to some 
documentation which will explain this to me (even if it cannot be done)? 
  Thanks.

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[css-d] menu box that floats with scrolling

2008-01-21 Thread brane
Hello lists.css-discuss.org

I have seen the effect on at least two sites, one of which is
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/display.html

For PPK's example, I saved the page in which
show site navigation, show page contents
stay visible as I scroll down the view.
Disabling the *.js file stops those menus from opening, but not from
scrolling, suggesting control is by the CSS.
His structure uses DIV to nested depth four.

Simple copy and paste into a new file did not work.
Please explain.

Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] a couple of questions: dif style sheets and min height??

2008-01-21 Thread Marten Gallagher
 I'll have another look at 8bit png files. I'll check out the min
 height css style too. I thought I had seen it somewhere but wasn't too
 sure if ie understood it.

There is a lot of continuous tone in that image. It should really be a jpg. I
experimented with your picture of the paint pots. Turned it into a 90% JPG
and it was 30kb rather than the 132kb png you have got there.

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Re: [css-d] beginner's issues with spacing

2008-01-21 Thread Stuart Walsh
David Laakso wrote:
 Stuart Walsh wrote:
  I've got a homepage with a header which is a jpg. I'm using HTML Kit 
 to write the code and in that, and in IE there is no space above and 
 below the header jpg. But in Firefox and Opera there is space above 
 and below. I'm doing something wrong but I can't think what it is.
   

  
 Many thanks. I've implemented your suggestions. The page now works in 
 Firefox and Opera.





 This is in reference to uri: http://www.revise-now.co.uk/A2Comms/

 Good... on to bringing IE6 on board.  Please see revision of CSS and 
 markup-- too many changes to note individually.

 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/temp.html

 Cursory tested in compliant browsers at +2 font-scaling, and text-size 
 largest in IE6  7.
 G, I love to nit-pick.

Right!! I've got a lot to chew on here. I could learn a lot form all 
this.  Very many thanks for this very detailed scrutiny.

Stuart Walsh





 Best,
 ~dL

 PS Please hit reply all when replying so it goes to the list, too.

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Re: [css-d] Site check please :Arun Dixit:

2008-01-21 Thread David Laakso
Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
  
 Re: www.arundixit.com
 Firefox displays as intended.
 IE6 and IE7 do not display header background.
 Additionally, IE6 does not center content.s of #inner.
 Appreciate advice/ suggestions for above.
 Also, a general site check please.
 Thanks.

   

 Thanks, as usual. I have implemented the suggestions (including 
 border: fuchsia ;-)), but as yet, no go in both IE6  IE7.
 Maintaining status quo...till I hear further?





Seems to work (more or less) in IE/6.0 and IE/7.0 on this end: xp/ie on 
mac os x 10.4.11.
Please see:
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/lj.html

Regards,
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Re: [css-d] Site check please :Arun Dixit:

2008-01-21 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
  
 Re: www.arundixit.com
 Firefox displays as intended.
 IE6 and IE7 do not display header background.
 Additionally, IE6 does not center content.s of #inner.
 Appreciate advice/ suggestions for above.
 Also, a general site check please.
 Thanks.

   

 Thanks, as usual. I have implemented the suggestions (including 
 border: fuchsia ;-)), but as yet, no go in both IE6  IE7.
 Maintaining status quo...till I hear further?





 Seems to work (more or less) in IE/6.0 and IE/7.0 on this end: xp/ie 
 on mac os x 10.4.11.
 Please see:
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/lj.html

 Regards,
 ~dL


...certainly does on IE/Win XP too.
Let me recheck /compare the CSS on your file with mine.
A million thanks, kind Sir.

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[css-d] Netscape/mozilla hacks?

2008-01-21 Thread Anne E. Shroeder
I'm not sure why this is the first time I'm having grief with netscape, but 
on this page http://www.language-works.com/NSTMF/home.php in XP/PC it is (a) 
not showing the background image in the main content region, (b) shoving the 
logo graphic (labelled #hpGraphic) up and under the navbar.  Also the top 
yellow 26px border is not showing no matter how I adjust the placement of 
this graphic.  And yet strangely enough I've gotten this border to work on 
this page http://www.language-works.com/NSTMF/internal.php.

Note:  Acc. to browsercam, this same problem is occurring on Mozilla 1.7.12 
on Win2000 and Mozilla 1.7.12 on XP. Now I'm really confused - I should 
think Mozilla and Firefox would yield similar results.

This is the CSS code for the hpGraphic:

#hpGraphic {
 height: 79px;
 width: 1008px;
 background-color:#2F201B;
 background-image: url(../images/hpGraphic.gif);
 background-repeat:no-repeat;
 background-position:70px;
 padding: 20px 0 0 0;
 border-top: 26px solid #E9A713;
}

TIA,

anne

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