Re: [css-d] IE6 ruins Holy Grail Layout with innocuous javascript

2008-05-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Chris Hardie wrote:
 I've seen a lot, but this is a new one and a doozy:
 
 http://142.177.155.236/test.asp
 
 ...
 Now, click on the Change alt text of right-hand image button. The 
 left-hand column is now thrown over 375 pixels, and the alert now 
 indicates an x-position of 380px! ...

I did not check your page, but see if this helps.
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html

regards,

Ingo

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[css-d] Browser compatibility with basic background formats?

2008-05-23 Thread parag m
 My body background specific code is thus:

 body {
background-color: #D8BAEC;
background-image: url(images/bggradient1.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
text-align: left;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
color: #611E41;
 }


Hi,
I had run into a similar issue and faintly recalling what i did was club all
background parameters into:
  background: #D8BAEC
url(images/bggradient1.jpg)  repeat-y;

Can you try this, in case you havent, and let me know if it works

Thanks
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Re: [css-d] Latest Rounded Corners

2008-05-23 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Here's another list of several techniques:
http://www.smileycat.com/miaow/archives/44.php

Best regards,

Christian
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Chris Akins schrieb:
 I know there are many rounded corner techniques out there, and I'm not
 looking to start a war.  :-)
 But I was wondering if there are any especially good, newer techniques to
 the game.  I need my rounded box to be resizable, and kind of like the idea
 of using only one small circle image that gets offset for each corner.
 Prefer no javascript for this.

 I did start with Google, but quite a few of the promising link titles lead
 to pages no longer there, so I hoping this list could point me to recent
 improvements in this area.

 Thanks as always for the expertise here.

 Chris
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Re: [css-d] Latest Rounded Corners

2008-05-23 Thread maxxu !
There's another technique at:

http://www.cssplay.co.uk/boxes/krazy.html

By Stu Nicholls.
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[css-d] IE6 vertical margin and padding differences

2008-05-23 Thread James Smith

Hi there, this is hopefully an easy one, but I'm struggling to find a clean 
solution for IE6 without resorting to adding an extra div, floating the h1 
element, or removing the container's width (all of which are inconvenient for 
various reasons) - 

Problem here is that IE6 doesn't honour both the container's padding-top and 
the child's margin-top. Compare the following result in FF and IE6:

Markup:


Heading 1


CSS:

*{margin:0;padding:0;}
#content{
width:500px;
padding-top:100px;
background:red;
}
h1{
margin-top:100px;
background:blue;
}

any help much appreciated,

James
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Re: [css-d] IE6 vertical margin and padding differences

2008-05-23 Thread David Laakso
James Smith wrote:
 Hi there, this is hopefully an easy one, but I'm struggling to find a clean 
 solution for IE6 without resorting to adding an extra div, floating the h1 
 element, or removing the container's width (all of which are inconvenient for 
 various reasons) - 

 Problem here is that IE6 doesn't honour both the container's padding-top and 
 the child's margin-top. Compare the following result in FF and IE6:
   




Nothing is easy.
* html #content{
padding-top:200px;
}

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Re: [css-d] IE6 vertical margin and padding differences

2008-05-23 Thread maxxu !
What about adding the underscore hack ?

h1 {
...
_margin-top:200px;
}
That will get the same result in IE6 as the one in FF.

James Smith wrote:
 Hi there, this is hopefully an easy one, but I'm struggling to find a clean 
 solution for IE6 without resorting to adding an extra div, floating the h1 
 element, or removing the container's width (all of which are inconvenient for 
 various reasons) - 
 
 Problem here is that IE6 doesn't honour both the container's padding-top and 
 the child's margin-top. Compare the following result in FF and IE6:
 
 Markup:
 
 
 Heading 1
 
 
 CSS:
 
 *{margin:0;padding:0;}
 #content{
 width:500px;
 padding-top:100px;
 background:red;
 }
 h1{
 margin-top:100px;
 background:blue;
 }
 
 any help much appreciated,
 
 James
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Re: [css-d] IE6 ruins Holy Grail Layout with innocuous javascript

2008-05-23 Thread Chris Hardie
Hi Ingo,

That does seem to have quelled the issue, many thanks. FWIW, I applied 
display:inline-block to the innerwrapper to trigger hasLayout, and in my 
specific case it appears to work. I then created the following rule in 
case other browsers had difficulties with it: html  body #innerwrapper 
{ display: block; }

Many thanks Ingo!

C.

Ingo Chao wrote:
 Chris Hardie wrote:
 I've seen a lot, but this is a new one and a doozy:

 http://142.177.155.236/test.asp

 ...
 Now, click on the Change alt text of right-hand image button. The 
 left-hand column is now thrown over 375 pixels, and the alert now 
 indicates an x-position of 380px! ...

 I did not check your page, but see if this helps.
 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html

 regards,

 Ingo



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Re: [css-d] IE6 vertical margin and padding differences

2008-05-23 Thread James Smith

Thanks, I'll use one of those.

Do you know why this is happening? I thought I had encountered most IE bugs 
before, but this doesn't seem to fall under any I've heard of - it doesn't even 
seem to be down to the box model differences since I've not specified a height 
on anything. It seems that the margin and padding are collapsing together since 
IE6 will obey whichever one is higher in value, but not both.


 Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:05:11 +0300
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 CC: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: Re: [css-d] IE6 vertical margin and padding differences
 
 What about adding the underscore hack ?
 
 h1 {
 ...
 _margin-top:200px;
 }
 That will get the same result in IE6 as the one in FF.
 
 James Smith wrote:
  Hi there, this is hopefully an easy one, but I'm struggling to find a clean 
  solution for IE6 without resorting to adding an extra div, floating the h1 
  element, or removing the container's width (all of which are inconvenient 
  for various reasons) - 
  
  Problem here is that IE6 doesn't honour both the container's padding-top 
  and the child's margin-top. Compare the following result in FF and IE6:
  
  Markup:
  
  div id=content
  h1Heading 1/h1
  /div
  
  CSS:
  
  *{margin:0;padding:0;}
  #content{
  width:500px;
  padding-top:100px;
  background:red;
  }
  h1{
  margin-top:100px;
  background:blue;
  }
  
  any help much appreciated,
  
  James
  
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Re: [css-d] IE6 vertical margin and padding differences

2008-05-23 Thread Bobby Jack
--- James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you know why this is happening? I thought I had
 encountered most IE bugs before ... it doesn't
 even seem to be down to the box model differences
 since I've not specified a height on anything.

It definitely looks like a hasLayout problem - this is
probably the flavour of bug you're thinking of. As you
say, setting height triggers hasLayout, but so does
setting width (1). Looks like margin / padding is one
of the victims (2). I *despise* hacks, though it may
be your only option in this case. Are you sure you
can't make semantic use out of a wrapper div? That, to
me, would seem the lesser of two evils.

- Bobby

(1) See the 'classic':
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html#prop

(2) http://www.brunildo.org/test/IEMarginCollapseLayout.html


  
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Re: [css-d] IE 6 bug - thx for the help!

2008-05-23 Thread fat graffix
thank you gunlaug - writing in position: relative; to the 
problem div in IE 6 worked -

- http://www.fatgraffix.com/2008-test-01/index-fix.html

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[css-d] Table column width

2008-05-23 Thread Mary Ellen Curtin
I have a 2-cell table I am trying to style with css:
http://datagnostics.com/test/tablecells.html

What I want is:
1. table width is fixed
2. cell with image in it is just the width of the image, even if I don't 
know ahead of time how wide the image will be.
3. the other cell should adjust its width as necessary.

How do I do this so it works in both IE6  IE7, as well as 
standards-compliant browsers?

Mary Ellen, Doctor Science
http://doctorscience.blogspot.com 

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[css-d] Skin Test Request

2008-05-23 Thread Sohail Aboobaker
Hi,

We need help in testing whether the HTML found at
http://newwavecell.com/design/Index.html is skinnable. The goal is to
accomodate as many designs as possible without having to alter the
underlying HTML.

The designer should be able to make menus appear differently (vertical,
horizontal, drop down, multi-level etc.) and also be able to position the
site menu anywhere (may be on right side instead of left).

Is it possible for someone to examine HTML and may be try to create a
different skin for this HTML. You can reply with your CSS and/or Javascripts
and I can post it as alternate skins on the site.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

Sohail
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[css-d] Drop down Menu not clickable.

2008-05-23 Thread Sohail Aboobaker
Hi,

We have a CSS driven drop down menu but we have two issues with it:

a. The options which are falling in the content area of the page, are not
clickable.
b. Some options seem to be hidden under the content.

http://www.newwavecell.com/design/Index.html

Is this something that can be quickly fixed?

Regards,
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Re: [css-d] site check please - WHIWB

2008-05-23 Thread Peter Hyde-Smith
 Would appreciate a site check/thorough vetting of 
 www.whitehouseinwestbend.com

 http://www.whitehouseinwestbend.com/whitehousebaseformatcss.css
 http://www.whitehouseinwestbend.com/whitehousepagecss.css

 Comments regarding ease of use/accessibility, fonts, colors, etc always 
 welcome.

 Thanks in Advance, and Cheers,

 Peter

 Seems to be working alright cross-browser except for a minor issue in IE/6 
 where the vertical rules are filling all the way up.

 Tweak both to -3 or -2px and test:

 * html #leftsidebar {
margin-right: -10px;
 }

 * html #side2  {
margin-left:-10px;
 }


05/23/2008

David:

Thanks. I set the margins to -2px; and I still lose part of the vertical 
rules in WIN2K/IE6 at work, although the floats stay in place. I have 
changed them to -1px. Would you please take a quick look and let me know if 
'that' has resolved the issue. Otherwise I will cut the width on the center 
column by a few px to see if that works.

I know the font size is a problem. Will tweak around a bit to see what I can 
improve. The fixed width 3-column layout cures some ills, causes others .. 
like this! What do you think about 3 equal width columns?

Best,

Peter

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Re: [css-d] Drop down Menu not clickable.

2008-05-23 Thread Chris Akins
I tried putting a z-index:50 on #mainnavul  and it now works.

The 50 part probably doesn't have to be that specific number, but I just
put some arbitrary thing in there that I figured would be higher than the
z-index of the content.  I only tested this in Firefox Mac.

Chris A

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Sohail Aboobaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,

 We have a CSS driven drop down menu but we have two issues with it:

 a. The options which are falling in the content area of the page, are not
 clickable.
 b. Some options seem to be hidden under the content.

 http://www.newwavecell.com/design/Index.html

 Is this something that can be quickly fixed?

 Regards,
 Sohail
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Re: [css-d] Skin Test Request

2008-05-23 Thread David Laakso
Sohail Aboobaker wrote:
 Hi,

 We need help in testing whether the HTML found at
 http://newwavecell.com/design/Index.html is skinnable. The goal is to
 accomodate as many designs as possible without having to alter the
 underlying HTML.

 The designer should be able to make menus appear differently (vertical,
 horizontal, drop down, multi-level etc.) and also be able to position the
 site menu anywhere (may be on right side instead of left).

 Is it possible for someone to examine HTML and may be try to create a
 different skin for this HTML. You can reply with your CSS and/or Javascripts
 and I can post it as alternate skins on the site.

 Thanks for your help.

 Regards,

 Sohail
   



*#panneltwo
{
float: left;
}
#pannelone
{
float: right;
}*

 





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Re: [css-d] site check please - WHIWB

2008-05-23 Thread David Laakso
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:
 Would appreciate a site check/thorough vetting of 
 www.whitehouseinwestbend.com

 http://www.whitehouseinwestbend.com/whitehousebaseformatcss.css
 http://www.whitehouseinwestbend.com/whitehousepagecss.css


 Peter
   


 David:

 Thanks. I set the margins to -2px; and I still lose part of the vertical 
 rules in WIN2K/IE6 at work, although the floats stay in place. I have 
 changed them to -1px. Would you please take a quick look and let me know if 
 'that' has resolved the issue. Otherwise I will cut the width on the center 
 column by a few px to see if that works.
   



In XP IE/6 (standalone) you are dropping both the left and right 
column.  We' ll both need to hear from someone with native IE/6 boxes on 
win/2k and win/xp for a proper cross operating system fix in IE/6.0.


 Best,

 Peter

   

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Re: [css-d] Table column width

2008-05-23 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On May 24, 2008, at 3:26 AM, Mary Ellen Curtin wrote:

 I have a 2-cell table I am trying to style with css:
 http://datagnostics.com/test/tablecells.html

 What I want is:
 1. table width is fixed
 2. cell with image in it is just the width of the image, even if I  
 don't
 know ahead of time how wide the image will be.
 3. the other cell should adjust its width as necessary.

 How do I do this so it works in both IE6  IE7, as well as
 standards-compliant browsers?

Is the cell containing the image always in the same column ?
Then this out to work, I think:
http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/tablecells.html

Basically, lock down the width of the column to something narrow; the  
cell(s) will expand to the width of the largest image. I use the col  
element to do this.

Philippe
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http://l-c-n.com/





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