Re: [css-d] browser rendering problem

2008-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tim Wolak wrote:
 Thanks for that guys!  A little tweaking and it worked perfect!  For
 some reason I have a nice nagging white border around the backround
 image that is repeating on the page Any ideas as to who the
 problem child/div might be? Thanks again for the help!

 http://dev.howsmykiddriving.org

Introduce body-styles again, and remember that the body-element is
body, not #body. The body doesn't have, or need, an ID.

So, it should be...

body {
margin: 0;
background: #000 url(/images/road.jpg) repeat-x;
}

...and nothing more.
You should then delete #container-styles and #container-element, since
it serves no purpose.

FWIW: you page is still severely broken in IE6 even at default, and
blows apart in all browser when subjected to font resizing.

regards
Georg
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[css-d] Can we create a newsletter in CSS

2008-11-30 Thread Carla Bruni

 
I  might be a bit late with my post. 
I think the best information about newsletters you can get by
subscribing and observing letter from the respectful companies of the similar 
business.
The safest is hybrid layout, the tabled one.
I saw that lots of companies are just slicing pictures with text and it looks 
good,readable and nice.
The chose should depend on what business you are in, what is more important in 
your newsletters 
the actual text(information) or the product display(pictures).
It reminds me of a book  Pattern Recognition 
http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/pattern.asp


  
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Re: [css-d] Can we create a newsletter in CSS

2008-11-30 Thread MEM
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Sent: domingo, 30 de Novembro de 2008 16:32
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Can we create a newsletter in CSS


 
I  might be a bit late with my post. 
I think the best information about newsletters you can get by
subscribing and observing letter from the respectful companies of the
similar business.
The safest is hybrid layout, the tabled one.
I saw that lots of companies are just slicing pictures with text and it
looks good,readable and nice.
The chose should depend on what business you are in, what is more important
in your newsletters 
the actual text(information) or the product display(pictures).
It reminds me of a book  Pattern Recognition
http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/pattern.asp



Thanks a lot. I'm still struggling with... well... the newsletter system.
(after give up from phplist and the encoding issues, I'm now trying to use
poMMo btw) :s 

So, I'm not even on the layout part so... yes, it's on time. The image
should be important, not the product image (it will have agriculture
products so, they don't sell by pretty) but the company image is
important. Since I was on my way to learn CSS I'm feeling this table
approach always like a drawback... but I know I know... we cannot control
the internet... :s

I will take a look of how other companies send they newsletters. That was a
good tip that I forgot. 


Regards,
Marcio


  

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[css-d] 2nd request -- help with IE issue on Navigation

2008-11-30 Thread Ambient Glow
I'm having a problem with the display on the navigation for this page in
IE6:

http://ambientglow.com/garage/jfogg/sample-home.html
css: http://ambientglow.com/garage/jfogg/_css/home.css
menu css:
http://ambientglow.com/garage/jfogg/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css

The menu bar appears outside of the footer div which contains it, and
the style below is not recognized -- instead the font displays as
black.

ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
{
   display: block;
   cursor: pointer;
   color: #EBEBEB;
   text-decoration: none;
}

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Peg
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[css-d] Problem with form in IE6 and IE7

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Bradley
Hi,

I have a form that I can't get to format properly in IE (6 or 7).  You
can see it at:

http://www.apvx95.dsl.pipex.com/SpanishIntensives/bookingPHP.html

The stylesheet is at:

http://www.apvx95.dsl.pipex.com/SpanishIntensives/styles/spanishintensives.css

All the selectors for the form are at the bottom of the stylesheet. 
Both the CSS and the XHTML validate OK.

It's basically a form cribbed from Simon Collinson's Beginning CSS
Development.  It looks fine in FF, Safari and Opera, but in IE6 and IE7
the form data entry elements line up underneath their labels instead of
alongside them.

Is there a technique for getting a form like this to look right in IE?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers


Peter

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Re: [css-d] Problem with form in IE6 and IE7

2008-11-30 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Peter Bradley wrote:

 I have a form that I can't get to format properly in IE (6 or 7).

It looks like you are using a definition list for the form fields. In 
addition to being illogical, it also causes trouble in styling. The dl 
element may have idiosyncratic rendering features in browsers, and using 
float often causes browser differences.

It would be _far_ easier (and more logical) to use a table.

If you have been forbidden from using a table, you could use simply label 
and input and div (or just br) elements, making the labels floated on 
the left with specific width, much the way you are doing now. (Using a table 
would be much more flexible, since then a browser would automatically select 
the width for the column of labels according to the width requirements of 
the longest label.) See a sketchy example at
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/tables.html#css

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Re: [css-d] Problem with form in IE6 and IE7

2008-11-30 Thread Alyda Gilmore
 From: Jukka K. Korpela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:24:09 +0200
 To: CSS-D css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Problem with form in IE6 and IE7
 
 Peter Bradley wrote:
 
 I have a form that I can't get to format properly in IE (6 or 7).
 
 It looks like you are using a definition list for the form fields. In
 addition to being illogical, it also causes trouble in styling. The dl
 element may have idiosyncratic rendering features in browsers, and using
 float often causes browser differences.
 
 It would be _far_ easier (and more logical) to use a table.
 
 If you have been forbidden from using a table, you could use simply label
 and input and div (or just br) elements, making the labels floated on
 the left with specific width, much the way you are doing now. (Using a table
 would be much more flexible, since then a browser would automatically select
 the width for the column of labels according to the width requirements of
 the longest label.) See a sketchy example at
 http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/tables.html#css
 
 -- 
 Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
 


Try giving input/textarea/select elements a left margin, and absolute
positioning to label elements. See
http://www.aroundtheblock.net/tutorials/forms/ for an example.

---
Alyda


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Re: [css-d] Problem with form in IE6 and IE7

2008-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Bradley wrote:

 http://www.apvx95.dsl.pipex.com/SpanishIntensives/bookingPHP.html

 Is there a technique for getting a form like this to look right in 
 IE?

For a somewhat logical and identical line-up across browser-land for a
flexible layout like yours, I think you simply have to give the browsers
more freedom to arrange elements to the conditions...

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/pb/test_08_1130.html

...as that avoids both squishing and/or expansion in a table, and the
risk for overlapping that absolute positioning causes.

Relevant CSS - all of it - for your existing source-code:

fieldset dl {
padding-bottom:1em;
border:1px solid #666;
background:#DDD;
}

fieldset dt {
float: left;
padding:0.5em;
clear: both;
}

fieldset dd {
margin: 0;
padding:0.5em;
clear: right;
text-align: right;
}

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[css-d] Column Height

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Ravenstone
Is there a way to have a 3 column layout, where the right and left are a
fixed width, the center is fluid, and all three columns are the full length
between the header and the footer, which are set at the full length of the
screen?  AND to do it all with CSS?
Thanks,
Paul




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Re: [css-d] Column Height

2008-11-30 Thread Christian Kirchhoff privat
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Paul Ravenstone
 Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:30 PM
 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] Column Height
 
 
 Is there a way to have a 3 column layout, where the right and 
 left are a fixed width, the center is fluid, and all three 
 columns are the full length between the header and the 
 footer, which are set at the full length of the screen?  AND 
 to do it all with CSS? Thanks, Paul
 
 
 
 
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 We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we 
 used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
 
 If you want the truth to stand clear before you, never be for 
 or against.  The struggle between for and against is the 
 mind's worst disease. ~Sent-ts'an, c.700 C.E. 

Hello,

take a look here:
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/companions.html

That should do the trick.

More here:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts

Best regards,

Christian

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Re: [css-d] Problem with form in IE6 and IE7

2008-11-30 Thread Bill Brown
Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
 Peter Bradley wrote:
 
 I have a form that I can't get to format properly in IE (6 or 7).
 
 It looks like you are using a definition list for the form fields. In 
 addition to being illogical, it also causes trouble in styling. The dl 
 element may have idiosyncratic rendering features in browsers, and using 
 float often causes browser differences.
 
 It would be _far_ easier (and more logical) to use a table.
 
 If you have been forbidden from using a table, you could use simply label 
 and input and div (or just br) elements, making the labels floated on 
 the left with specific width, much the way you are doing now. (Using a table 
 would be much more flexible, since then a browser would automatically select 
 the width for the column of labels according to the width requirements of 
 the longest label.) See a sketchy example at
 http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/tables.html#css

Hi Peter,

The DL.DT.DD family is a rare and unique jewel in the family of HTML 
tags and the only one I know of with such a relationship between the 
three elements in the sub-family. I've used it many times and been 
pretty happy with it. That being said, it doesn't fit in this case and 
there's already a set of tags for this.

I can understand Jukka's suggestion to use tables to achieve the desired 
effect and I've looked at his page, but I'd like to offer an 
alternative. One thing that is commonly overlooked is that the label 
element is permitted to wrap around it's associated input element such 
that instead of this:
label for=thingLabel Text:/labelinput name=thing id=thing
...we're also allowed this:
label for=thingLabel Text:input name=thing id=thing/label

When we make the label element display:block, we then get a row we can 
work with. Throw your label text into a span, add a little float and 
negative margin magic and we can very closely emulate what we could 
achieve with tables.

I've prepared a snippet of your form using this method and published it 
at this URL:
http://theholiergrail.com/cssd/spanish-intensives-form.html

I hope it helps.
--Bill



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Re: [css-d] 2nd request -- help with IE issue on Navigation

2008-11-30 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Ambient Glow [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm having a problem with the display on the navigation for this page in
IE6:

http://ambientglow.com/garage/jfogg/sample-home.html
css: http://ambientglow.com/garage/jfogg/_css/home.css
menu css:
http://ambientglow.com/garage/jfogg/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css

The menu bar appears outside of the footer div which contains it, and
the style below is not recognized -- instead the font displays as
black.

ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
{
   display: block;
   cursor: pointer;
   color: #EBEBEB;
   text-decoration: none;
}

Not seeing the menubar outside the footer, but once you put REAL href addresses 
in the links instead of the #, IE6 will play along and show your light 
colored text.

~holly 
 
   
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