[css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread sfeldman

hey all,

Is there a good way to get a drop shadow on text using css? I've got something 
that seems to work in Safari, and in FireFox 3.6.8 on a mac, but I think that's 
about it.

I can't really fake this with an image or duplicated text - the site needs to 
work for people who will be increasing text size and also for those who will be 
using a screen reader.

http://sandyfeldman.com/ana/8test.shtml
http://sandyfeldman.com/ana/css_js/8test.css

any suggestions are much appreciated.
thanks!
Sandy
  
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Re: [css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Hi!
The CSS way is using text-shadow:

h1 {text-shadow: 3px 3px 3px #ccc}

Another way is using 2 wrappers:

h1spanText/span/h1

h1 span {
 position: relative;
top: 3px;
left: 3px;
color: #ccc;
}

Finally, you can use image replacement and graphics:

h1 {
   background: url(text.png) no-repeat 0 0;
   text-indent: -1000em;
   height: value;
}

HTH ^^/

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http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/  (English)
http://www.css-zibaldone.com/articles/  (English)
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Re: [css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread Climis, Tim
 Is there a good way to get a drop shadow on text using css?

You're using it.

 I've got
 something that seems to work in Safari, and in FireFox 3.6.8 on a mac,
 but I think that's about it.

Actually, it works in Firefox 3+, Safari 3+, Chrome 4+, and Opera 10+, on all 
platforms.  Only IE doesn't play ball.

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Re: [css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread Christian Kirchhoff

Am 09.08.2010 17:46, schrieb Climis, Tim:
 Is there a good way to get a drop shadow on text using css?
  
 You're using it.


 I've got
 something that seems to work in Safari, and in FireFox 3.6.8 on a mac,
 but I think that's about it.
  
 Actually, it works in Firefox 3+, Safari 3+, Chrome 4+, and Opera 10+, on all 
 platforms.  Only IE doesn't play ball.

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For IE you could take a look here:
http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/css/cross-browser-drop-shadows

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Re: [css-d] drop down menu help...

2010-08-09 Thread Michael Beaudoin
On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:34 PM, David Laakso wrote:

 Michael Beaudoin wrote:
 I am working on some css/javascript drop down menus and for the  
 life  of me I can't get the submenus to line up under the nav menu  
 item.  Right now they are down and to the right.

 The offending file is at http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/ for your  
 perusal.

 Thanks so much.

 Michael




 No guarantee. Try:

 Replace this declaration:
 ul.dropdown ul li  {
 color: #333;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;
 float: none;
 background-color: #CC;
 }

 With this declaration:
 ul.dropdown ul li {
 color: #333;width: 160px;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;
 float: none;
 background: lime;
 top: 10px;
 left: 0;
 }
And add the padding to this  
 declaration:
 ul.dropdown ul li a  {
 padding: 5px 0 /*add*/;
 border-right: none;
 width: 100%;
 display: inline-block;
 }

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David,

Thanks so much. Sorry for the delay, but I was unavailable over the  
weekend.

What you did was great. Now, if you don't mind, can you explain what I  
just did so I can understand?

Thanks,
Michael
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Re: [css-d] drop down menu help...

2010-08-09 Thread David Laakso
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
 On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:34 PM, David Laakso wrote:

 Michael Beaudoin wrote:
 I can't get the submenus to line up under the nav menu item.  Right 
 now they are down and to the right.

 http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/ for your perusal.


 Michael




 No guarantee. Try:

 Replace this declaration:
 ul.dropdown ul li  {
 color: #333;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;
 float: none;
 background-color: #CC;
 }

 With this declaration:
 ul.dropdown ul li {
 color: #333;width: 160px;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;
 float: none;
 background: lime;
 top: 10px;
 left: 0;
 }
And add the padding to this 
 declaration:
 ul.dropdown ul li a  {
 padding: 5px 0 /*add*/;
 border-right: none;
 width: 100%;
 display: inline-block;
 }



 David,

 Thanks so much. Sorry for the delay, but I was unavailable over the 
 weekend.

 What you did was great. Now, if you don't mind, can you explain what I 
 just did so I can understand?

 Thanks,
 Michael




Michael,

I don't know-- can't remember what I did 3 hours ago much less 3 days 
ago. I guess maybe top: 10px;
left: 0;  needed to be put on the relevant selector: ul.dropdown ul li. 
If you comment-out the padding on ul.dropdown ul li a  you'll see why it 
is needed.

Best,
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[css-d] CSS-only color picker

2010-08-09 Thread BPJ
The web is crowded with color-picker palettes using JavaScript
mumbo-jumbo. I wanted one working with css only + server-side
scripting and got the idea to use a select with optgroups
and options styled with display: block and display: inline
respectively. It works in Firefox 3.6 at least. What about
other browsers?

http://melroch.se/misc/palette.html

I would have liked for the selected color names to be shown
after the menu collapses, but can't find any way to get that
without breaking the menu itself.

BTW, what's up with the FF submit button?  It can't be styled!

/BP
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Re: [css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread David Laakso
sfeld...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 hey all,

 Is there a good way to get a drop shadow on text using css? I've got 
 something that seems to work in Safari, and in FireFox 3.6.8 on a mac, but I 
 think that's about it.
   


Others have answered your quesion.

 I can't really fake this with an image or duplicated text - the site needs to 
 work for people who will be increasing text size and also for those who will 
 be using a screen reader.
   


Then set no font less than default, and ditch the Verdana and MS stuff: 
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif will do. Letter-spacing content text is not 
helping their cause. You are dropping the right col with a heavy + 
hand-- and same if minimum font-size is set in the prefs at 24 in FF and 
32 in Opera. If you use em you'll need to declare font-size 100% on html 
or the fonts will go totally goofy in IE when scaled.



 http://sandyfeldman.com/ana/8test.shtml


 any suggestions are much appreciated.
 thanks!
 Sandy
  


Best,

Helen K.
Tuscumbia, Alabama

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Re: [css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread sfeldman

hi Tim, hi Gabriele,

Thanks for your help with my efforts to get some drop shadows going.
I think this is the best approach

http://sandyfeldman.com/dstest/dstest3.shtml
though it doesn't work with everything.
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=525331

I'm afraid I can't use repeated offset text, since this would be repetitive and 
confusing for the screen reader users, and I can't use an image, since it 
wouldn't always get bigger when the user increases text size.

thanks again for taking the time.

best regards,
Sandy
  
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Re: [css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread Sandy

 the site 
 needs to work for people who will be increasing text size and also for 
 those who will be using a screen reader.

 Then set no font less than default, and ditch the Verdana and MS stuff: 
 Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif will do.

 Letter-spacing content text is not 
 helping their cause.

 You are dropping the right col with a heavy + 
 hand-- and same if minimum font-size is set in the prefs at 24 in FF and 
 32 in Opera. If you use em you'll need to declare font-size 100% on html 
 or the fonts will go totally goofy in IE when scaled.

Hi Helen K. - or is this David?

Thanks for your input. I've made some changes
http://sandyfeldman.com/ana/10test.shtml

and I have some questions - why not Verdana or trebuchet MS?

letter-spacing on browser text is often really tight - a small bit of 
opening up seems to increase legibility to me. I can understand 
objecting to the kind of spacing that ends up looking like t h i s but 
a .1em just looks to me like it makes things better. Is there something 
I'm not thinking of?

I'm not sure what you mean by You are dropping the right col with a 
heavy + hand--

thanks again for taking the time to help me think about this.

Sandy

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Re: [css-d] drop shadows

2010-08-09 Thread David Laakso
Sandy wrote:

 the site
 needs to work for people who will be increasing text size and also 
 for those who will be using a screen reader.

 Then set no font less than default, and ditch the Verdana and MS 
 stuff: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif will do.

 Letter-spacing content text is not helping their cause.

 You are dropping the right col with a heavy + hand-- and same if 
 minimum font-size is set in the prefs at 24 in FF and 32 in Opera. If 
 you use em you'll need to declare font-size 100% on html or the fonts 
 will go totally goofy in IE when scaled.

 Hi Helen K. - or is this David?

 Thanks for your input. I've made some changes
 http://sandyfeldman.com/ana/10test.shtml

 and I have some questions - why not Verdana or trebuchet MS?



Use whatever does it for you and your clients /visually impaired users/. 
Neither of the above fits the bill in my book.
Verdana was designed in 1996 for low resolution monitors in use at that 
time. It is ugly at default and larger. Trebuchnet MS is not much better.

Why you should avoid the Verdana font
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/verdana.html





 letter-spacing on browser text is often really tight - a small bit of 
 opening up seems to increase legibility to me. I can understand 
 objecting to the kind of spacing that ends up looking like t h i s 
 but a .1em just looks to me like it makes things better. Is there 
 something I'm not thinking of?





Do whatever does it for you and your clients /visually impaired users/ 
with the content text.  Generally it is not a good practice to tinker 
with a type-designers text font.



 I'm not sure what you mean by You are dropping the right col with a 
 heavy + hand--


Hold the ctrl key [or apple key] and repeatedly bang the + key in FF.
Current accessibility requirements, of which the /visually impaired/ 
qualify, call for use and funtionality of typography at *twice default.*
You are also dropping at 24px minimum font-size in FF and at 32 minimum 
in Opera.



 thanks again for taking the time to help me think about this.




May be you should ask some of your clients users what they think before 
making up their mind for them?




 Sandy




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[css-d] Logo positioning with CSS?

2010-08-09 Thread Joe Jackson
Hi

How can I have the logo sit on top of the slideshow image?  At present the
logo pushes the slideshow image further down the page?  I have tried Z index
on the logo but it still pushes the slideshow down the page instead of the
logo sitting on top of the slideshow?

div id=mainheader

   div id=logo/div
   div id=navigation
ul id=navigs
 lia href=index.htmlHOME/a/li
 lia href=aboutus.htmlABOUT US/a/li
 lia href=classes.htmlCLASSES/a/li
 lia href=contact.htmlCONTACT US/a/li
/ul
   /div

  /div
  div id=slideshow-border
   div id=slideshow

div id=cycle-home
 img src=images/hp1.jpg alt=Dance Studios /
 img src=images/hp2.jpg alt=Music and Dance Studio /
 img src=images/hp3.jpg alt=test /
 img src=images/hp4.jpg alt=test /

/div

My CSS for these elements are

  #logo {
   width: 211px;
   height: 177px;
float: left;
   margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;
   background: url(../images/logo1.png)
  }


 #slideshow-border {
  width: 900px;
  height: 348px;
  padding: 10px;
  margin: 0 auto;
  background: #FFF;
 }
  #slideshow {
   width: 900px;
   height: 348px;
   overflow: hidden;
   position: relative;
   background: #222;
  }
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Re: [css-d] Logo positioning with CSS?

2010-08-09 Thread Duncan Hill
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:19:45 +0100, Joe Jackson priory...@googlemail.com  
wrote:

 Hi

 How can I have the logo sit on top of the slideshow image?  At present  
 the
 logo pushes the slideshow image further down the page?  I have tried Z  
 index
 on the logo but it still pushes the slideshow down the page instead of  
 the
 logo sitting on top of the slideshow?

Not sure if this is what you are trying for:


#logo{
  width:211px;
  height:177px;
  float:left;
  margin:0px 0px 0px 10px;
  background:url(../images/logo1.png);
  outline:1px solid red;
}

#slideshow-border{
  width:900px;
  height:348px;
  padding:10px;
  margin:0 auto;
  background:#FFF;
}

#slideshow{
  width:900px;
  height:348px;
  background:#222;
}


div id=mainheader
 div id=navigation
   ul id=navigs
 lia href=index.htmlHOME/a/li

 lia href=aboutus.htmlABOUT US/a/li

 lia href=classes.htmlCLASSES/a/li

 lia href=contact.htmlCONTACT US/a/li
   /ul
 /div
   /div

   div id=slideshow-border
 div id=logo/div

 div id=slideshow
   div id=cycle-home
 img src=images/hp1.jpg alt=Dance Studios / img  
src=images/hp2.jpg alt=Music and Dance Studio / img  
src=images/hp3.jpg alt=test / img src=images/hp4.jpg alt=test /
   /div
 /div
   /div

Best wishes

Duncan
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Re: [css-d] CSS-only color picker

2010-08-09 Thread tedd
At 6:51 PM +0200 8/9/10, BPJ wrote:
The web is crowded with color-picker palettes using JavaScript
mumbo-jumbo. I wanted one working with css only + server-side
scripting and got the idea to use a select with optgroups
and options styled with display: block and display: inline
respectively. It works in Firefox 3.6 at least. What about
other browsers?

http://melroch.se/misc/palette.html

I would have liked for the selected color names to be shown
after the menu collapses, but can't find any way to get that
without breaking the menu itself.

BTW, what's up with the FF submit button?  It can't be styled!

/BP


Your color picker doesn't work for me. There are no colors in the 
selection options.

Safari 4.1.1  Mac OSX 10.4.11

Cheers,

tedd

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Re: [css-d] CSS-only color picker

2010-08-09 Thread William Gaffga
Win Vista, Chrome 5
Basically works ... is the color supposed to show up in the menu after
selection but before submittal? If so ... it doesn't.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:51 AM, BPJ melr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The web is crowded with color-picker palettes using JavaScript
 mumbo-jumbo. I wanted one working with css only + server-side
 scripting and got the idea to use a select with optgroups
 and options styled with display: block and display: inline
 respectively. It works in Firefox 3.6 at least. What about
 other browsers?

 http://melroch.se/misc/palette.html

 I would have liked for the selected color names to be shown
 after the menu collapses, but can't find any way to get that
 without breaking the menu itself.

 BTW, what's up with the FF submit button?  It can't be styled!

 /BP
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[css-d] sub-columns within floats

2010-08-09 Thread Peter Ankelein
Hi All,

I've been racking my brains regarding column control within a float. I'm
revising an event agenda that currently has two columns via a 100px left
float for the session times and a 425px right float for all the session
titles and associated content. The problem is now, many of the items in
the right float need to be divided into their own columns while some
span the full 425px. Some of these include the left span and some of
them don't. I've thrown together a quick table to show the various
scenarios:

http://www.mdsol.com/conferences/mug/emug2010/table_example.html

How do I nest two columns below the initial line of the right float that
spans the full float width? Also, how would I go about creating the
three-column version? I've included links to a test page and test css
that show the initial agenda format. In the CSS it's the #center .left,
#center .right IDs/classes.

http://www.mdsol.com/conferences/mug/emug2010/agenda_test.htm (Test
page)
http://www.mdsol.com/conferences/mug/mug_test.css (CSS)

I tried a bunch of things earlier but with no success. I'm just not sure
of the best way to go about this to cover all the scenarios...or if
maybe I should chalk this up as tabular data and just go the table
route. Any and all help/advice is certainly appreciated.

Thx,
Pete

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[css-d] Fwd: Clear Float? Help

2010-08-09 Thread css man
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I started a page at:

http://cssman.webs.com/testbuttons.html

I cannot get the orange box to mesh up with the Headline goes here...
line.

I tried using br style=clear:both / but it didn't seem to make a
difference.
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Re: [css-d] Fwd: Clear Float? Help

2010-08-09 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, css man wrote:

 I started a page at:

 http://cssman.webs.com/testbuttons.html

 I cannot get the orange box to mesh up with the Headline goes here...
 line.

 I tried using br style=clear:both / but it didn't seem to make a
 difference.

First, fix the HTML errors:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcssman.webs.com%2Ftestbuttons.html

Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01 Transitional!
Result: 6 Errors, 3 warning(s)

They may or may not be causing the problem, but fixing errors is
always the first step in getting a page to work.

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