Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
glad to help…and to be clear…it's 10.7.2, Safari 5.1.2, and initially, I tried in FF 5 (just did a re-install and wrongly assumed it was the latest) tried again in FF 9.0.1, and the first two paragraphs are serif; the following 3 are SANS serif…yes, sorry about my earlier typo. J __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
On Jan 4, 2012, at 1:49 PM, John wrote: >> url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html >> >> Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with >> any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. >> (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a >> default). >> >> The test fails (displays a serif font) on my side; I already cleared all >> font-caches. >> Other browsers work correctly. > > in FF, the first two paragraphs are serif, the rest are serif. (only the first two paragraphs are serif, for the rest you meant sans-serif I guess) It appears to be fixed in Nightly builds; should work fine with Firefox 11. > In Safari, the first is serif and the second is sans, as are all the rest. really ? …… oh wait – let me test again. Indeed. WebKit nightly builds work fine, though, as do Chrome 16+. Thanks for testing John. Philippe -- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
On 1/3/2012 2:49 PM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: 1/ Confirm that the CSS and markup are valid, that it is not hanging on a CSS error, and that you have saved the CSS file before uploading it. It's not always possible to use valid css due to proprietary css markup such as -webkit, -moz, as I'm using CSS3 the HTML markup however is valid. 2/ Delete the CSS file from the server. Boot. Upload the CSS file from the hardrive to the server. I have tried this numerous time and even so the browser will still use the CSS stylesheet it has cached. Elli Vizcaino Oh, my. Now what we'll do? Perhaps a movie... Best, Robert -- A River Ran Through it __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html > > Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with > any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. > (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a > default). > > The test fails (displays a serif font) on my side; I already cleared all > font-caches. > Other browsers work correctly. > > Philippe in FF, the first two paragraphs are serif, the rest are serif. In Safari, the first is serif and the second is sans, as are all the rest. J __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
Elli Vizcaino wrote: 1/ Confirm that the CSS and markup are valid, that it is not hanging on a CSS error, and that you have saved the CSS file before uploading it. It's not always possible to use valid css due to proprietary css markup such as -webkit, -moz, as I'm using CSS3 the HTML markup however is valid. 2/ Delete the CSS file from the server. Boot. Upload the CSS file from the hardrive to the server. I have tried this numerous time and even so the browser will still use the CSS stylesheet it has cached. Don't know if it applies to CSS, but there are settings in web servers and web proxies that can have impact on whether or not a browser refresh gets the current page or not. In particular, some combination of MS IIS, the MS Proxy server, and various versions of IE makes the browser either never even check for an update (IE6, even when forced) or be informed that it already has the most current version (other IEs plus Firefox). It afflicts my employer's website, we still haven't gotten a good explanation or a fix for it that doesn't conflict with other server/proxy settings required for some enterprise apps we use. -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a default). The test fails (displays a serif font) on my side; I already cleared all font-caches. Other browsers work correctly. Philippe -- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Dan Kaufman wrote: > > >> 2/ Delete the CSS file from the server. Boot. Upload the CSS file from the > >> hardrive to the server. > >> I have tried this numerous time and even so the browser will still use the >> CSS stylesheet it has cached. > > I have used a simple trick in the past which has worked for me: I > "mis-spell" the css file reference on my index.html page, upload that page > and I will get a "file not found" error message. > Then I correct the mis-spelling and re-upload the file. It will now find > the "correct" css file and read it. > > For example: > is the > correct reference. > > I mis-spell it to > > And upload index.html. This gives me an error since there is no > OLD-global.css > > I then correct the mis-spelling and re-upload the file...and it is then > found and read. > > > Dan K. > > I've also done: style.css?v=1 then increment the number as needed... -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
> 2/ Delete the CSS file from the server. Boot. Upload the CSS file from the > hardrive to the server. > I have tried this numerous time and even so the browser will still use the > CSS stylesheet it has cached. I have used a simple trick in the past which has worked for me: I "mis-spell" the css file reference on my index.html page, upload that page and I will get a "file not found" error message. Then I correct the mis-spelling and re-upload the file. It will now find the "correct" css file and read it. For example: is the correct reference. I mis-spell it to And upload index.html. This gives me an error since there is no OLD-global.css I then correct the mis-spelling and re-upload the file...and it is then found and read. Dan K. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Erratic Hover Behavior in IE
Hello CSS Discuss, Actually Im sure it's the norm in IE but basicaly what's happening here: http://www.e7flux.com/clients/sof/ is that some links are hovering and some are not. On hover most of the links should show a border-bottom: 1px dashed w the appropriate hex color or the reverse. Yet IE 7/8 are not showing the hover state in the footer nav section nor in the header titles Elli Vizcaino Helping artists, entrepreneurs and small businesses knock the socks off the competition! http://www.e7flux.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > > >> 1/ Confirm that the CSS and markup are valid, that it is not hanging on a CSS >> error, and that you have saved the CSS file before uploading it. > > It's not always possible to use valid css due to proprietary css markup such > as -webkit, -moz, as I'm using CSS3 the HTML markup however is valid. > > > >> 2/ Delete the CSS file from the server. Boot. Upload the CSS file from the >> hardrive to the server. > > I have tried this numerous time and even so the browser will still use the > CSS stylesheet it has cached. > > I use Safari mostly, and find that - on the Mac - I have to clear it's cache frequently, as you say. command-option-e > "ok" > refresh. Not sure if Chrome has an equivalent... -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
> 1/ Confirm that the CSS and markup are valid, that it is not hanging on a CSS > error, and that you have saved the CSS file before uploading it. It's not always possible to use valid css due to proprietary css markup such as -webkit, -moz, as I'm using CSS3 the HTML markup however is valid. > 2/ Delete the CSS file from the server. Boot. Upload the CSS file from the > hardrive to the server. I have tried this numerous time and even so the browser will still use the CSS stylesheet it has cached. Elli Vizcaino Helping artists, entrepreneurs and small businesses knock the socks off the competition! http://www.e7flux.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
I'm noticing that not every browser refreshes the CSS even when using shift + refresh. Based on this article: http://css-tricks.com/update-on-css-caching/ there is a way to make sure the browser gets the most updated stylesheet when requesting from the server. However, the article isn't' clear on how to implement this, as in, it doesn't provide an actual code sample. Plus some seem to require programming. Anyone know how I can get apply this so I can my CSS is also updated in the browser when I make changes? Elli Vizcaino 1/ Confirm that the CSS and markup are valid, that it is not hanging on a CSS error, and that you have saved the CSS file before uploading it. 2/ Delete the CSS file from the server. Boot. Upload the CSS file from the hardrive to the server. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
>In Chrome, go to Preferences > Under the Hood and then look in the Privacy >section. There's an option for "predict Network actions to improve page load >performance". I've theorized that this might be the issue, but I'm uncertain. >I haven't been paying close-enough attention, but I think the problem persists >with this unchecked... Don't think this is it, I have Chrome 16 and "predict Network actions to improve page load performance" checked and I've tried both shift+refresh and control+refresh and it still won't update to latest stylesheet and it's been about 2 hours since it was updated on the server. It took a couple of tries w shift+refresh in FF to update but Chrome won't budge. Don't get it. Elli Vizcaino Helping artists, entrepreneurs and small businesses knock the socks off the competition! http://www.e7flux.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
I've found that the latest version of Chrome(16) is doing this. In Chrome, go to Preferences > Under the Hood and then look in the Privacy section. There's an option for "predict Network actions to improve page load performance". I've theorized that this might be the issue, but I'm uncertain. I haven't been paying close-enough attention, but I think the problem persists with this unchecked... ….. and I have the problem even if I'm testing a local file. I haven't researched the issue much because I figured it must've been me, but now that you've raised it, it's time for me to get on Google. Frank M Taylor http://frankmtaylor.com @paceaux On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > > I'm noticing that not every browser refreshes the CSS even when using shift + > refresh. Based on this article: http://css-tricks.com/update-on-css-caching/ > there is a way to make sure the browser gets the most updated stylesheet when > requesting from the server. However, the article isn't' clear on how to > implement this, as in, it doesn't provide an actual code sample. Plus some > seem to require programming. Anyone know how I can get apply this so I can my > CSS is also updated in the browser when I make changes? > > > Elli Vizcaino > Helping artists, entrepreneurs and small > businesses knock the socks off the competition! > http://www.e7flux.com > > __ > css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
Elli Vizcaino wrote: I'm noticing that not every browser refreshes the CSS even when using shift + refresh. One reason for that is that some use Ctrl + Refresh. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?
Hello Everyone, I'm noticing that not every browser refreshes the CSS even when using shift + refresh. Based on this article: http://css-tricks.com/update-on-css-caching/ there is a way to make sure the browser gets the most updated stylesheet when requesting from the server. However, the article isn't' clear on how to implement this, as in, it doesn't provide an actual code sample. Plus some seem to require programming. Anyone know how I can get apply this so I can my CSS is also updated in the browser when I make changes? Elli Vizcaino Helping artists, entrepreneurs and small businesses knock the socks off the competition! http://www.e7flux.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE 7/8 Filter for CSS3 Mulitple Backgrounds Issue
Hello Everyone, Phillipe W, Jukka,
I'm using conditional statement to target an ie filter for multiple
backgrounds. When I first applied the CSS:
.entry-content {
background: transparent url('images/post-footer-bkg.png') bottom left
no-repeat;
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader
(src='images/post-bkg.png', sizingMethod='crop');
/*IE7-8*/
}
It was working fine but, now only the image in the filter property shows up.
Not sure what happened or what I might have changed.
http://www.e7flux.com/clients/sof/
Elli Vizcaino
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businesses knock the socks off the competition!
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