Re: [css-d] help with responsive navigation
Looks like the class names are different, and open and close quotes are missing for class and id attributes Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris Kavinsky Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 11:59 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] help with responsive navigation I'm reworking a client site navigation to work better responsively and using a previous site as a model. I think I have the page code and css code correct, but I'm not getting the correct results. In short, the menu is collapsing when the screen is smaller but the link isn't toggling the menu, and I can't figure out why. Here are links: the site I'm working on: http://ipegstl.com/commercial/ the site I'm trying to mimic: http://otpnet.com/ here's the css code that works the button link for the toggling: /*Style 'show menu' label button and hide it by default*/ .show-menu { font-family: 'gandhi_sansbold'; text-decoration: none; color: #fff; background:#af292e; text-align: center; padding: 10px 0; display: none; } /*Hide checkbox*/ input[type=checkbox]{ display: none; -webkit-appearance: none; } /*Show menu when invisible checkbox is checked*/ input[type=checkbox]:checked ~ .menu-menu-1-container #menu-menu-1 { display: block; } @media only screen and (max-width : 1000px) { /*Make dropdown links appear inline*/ #site-navigation ul { position: static; display: none; } /*Create vertical spacing*/ #site-navigation li { margin-bottom: 1px; } /*Make all menu links full width*/ #site-navigation ul li { width: 100%; } #site-navigation li a { width: 100%; background:#af292e; } /*Display 'show menu' link*/ .show-menu { display:block; } } What am I overlooking? __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Issue with bootstrap checkbox
Make sure there is a folder called fonts in the root, with the icons fonts. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Larry Martell Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 9:52 AM To: CSS Discuss Subject: [css-d] Issue with bootstrap checkbox I have an app that's been dropped in my lap that uses bootstrap checkbox. On Chrome the boxes are blank - i.e. if you click on them they don't checked, although the action associated with checking or unchecking them is performed. In the console I see these errors: Failed to decode downloaded font: http://foo.bar.com:8000/fonts/glyphicons-halflings-regular.woff OTS parsing error: invalid version tag Failed to decode downloaded font: http://foo.bar.com:8000/fonts/glyphicons-halflings-regular.ttf OTS parsing error: invalid version tag Failed to decode downloaded font: http://foo.bar.com:8000/fonts/glyphicons-halflings-regular.woff2 OTS parsing error: invalid version tag On FF I don't get these errors, but the boxes still do not have checks in them - they have E067 then they're checked and E157 when they are unchecked. I looked in the bootstrap-glyphicons.css file and found this: .glyphicon-check:before{content:"\e067";} .glyphicon-unchecked:before{content:"\e157";} What are those Chrome errors and why don't I get them on FF? How can I get the checkmarks to properly appear on both browers? Thanks! __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Image won't scale
Add a style of width:100%; to the img tag. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of John J Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 10:20 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] Image won't scale I have the css below applied to an image at: john-a-johnson.com yet the image won't scale when view port resizes..can anyone point out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you! John .image-right{ float:right; max-width: 100%; height: auto; } __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] New website
Very confusing navigation. I clicked on a bottom link and all kinds of stuff flashed by very fast, and It took me a while to figure out how to get to them. On a Windows Phone 8.1 and IE the popup? is left aligned and covers the entire page so only the Graphic-Web-Media links are shown. The popup will shimmy left and right at random times, then settle down. Color and contrast look good to be. Page is huge at 14.9 MB. Tools.pingdom.com shows over 160 page requests, with a third of those having an error connecting. And for what it's worth ... if I see a countdown timer for a page load, I usually just leave. Not because it's a flash page, but because it's dead time that I can't do anything. Lots of potential, just needs some tweaking ... Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 4:22 PM To: CSS-D Subject: Re: [css-d] New website Yes, I sent another message with that in it. Must not have posted. Here you go. Thanks for asking. :) http://designdrumm.com Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On Feb 29, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Chris Williamswrote: > Link? > > > > > On 2/29/16, 2:32 PM, "css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org on behalf of Karl > DeSaulniers" k...@designdrumm.com> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> Got another website. This time it's my own portfolio website. It is an >> infinite loop horizontal scrolling responsive website. >> >> If you all don't mind taking a look at it and let me know if it >> breaks for you, I would really appreciate any feedback. Good or bad. >> Hopefully all good. (: )) >> >> Best, >> Karl >> _ >> _ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] >> http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d >> List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- >> http://css-discuss.org/policies.html >> Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > __ > css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- > http://css-discuss.org/policies.html > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] H6 tag is displaying "properly" in FF and Chrome but not in IE 11 using WIN 7.
Add a space after the percent 125% 'Times New Roman',Times,serif Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Al Fresco Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 12:08 PM To: CSS-Discuss Subject: [css-d] H6 tag is displaying "properly" in FF and Chrome but not in IE 11 using WIN 7. Greetings, H6 tag is displaying "properly" in FF and Chrome but not in IE 11 using WIN 7. Can anyone see why? Screen shots http://wildwonderfulwv.us/julian/sb.jpg HTML: http://wildwonderfulwv.us/julian/index.php Validation: https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwildwonderfulwv.us%2Fjulian%2F=%28detect+automatically%29=Inline=0=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Fservices CSS: http://wildwonderfulwv.us/julian/julian_index_new.css Validation: https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwildwonderfulwv.us%2Fjulian%2Fjulian_index_new.css=css3=all=1==en Thanks, WV-Mike www.EpicRoadTrips.us __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] CSS only popup to stay in viewport
I have a popup that displays when you hover over an icon. It's a glorified tooltip, with descriptive information. When the icon is near the edge of the viewport it crossover into the area that is not viewable. Anyone have some CSS only tricks to have it stay within the container div? Example page is here: http://pastebin.com/FHbv8beC Greg __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello
I've been hoping for a return of the list. I've tried sending a few posts, but thought I was locked out for some reason ... glad to know it was only a software issue. Maybe keep it going for a while, and see if it picks up?? Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:35 PM To: CSS-D Discuss Subject: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello Hi, everyone, So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us really noticed until this month. Or, if people noticed, nobody mentioned it until this month. It took a while to get in touch with someone who could get the software restarted, but I'm told it's back up. If you're reading this, then yes, it's back up. This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue. There are a lot of other venues for discussing CSS these days, and most of the reason for this list existing-- to help people figure out how CSS worked, and fix problems-- is covered much more compellingly by sites like StackOverflow. The resources that used to support css-d, like the public archive and the wiki, have fallen into disuse or disrepair over the years. In general, there's a faded feeling here, at least for me. Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action: 1. Shut down the list. To all good things, etc. This obviously abandons those who still prize having a mailing list, but that number seems very small. Almost all the discussion in the months leading up to the hiatus was conducted between a small number of subscribers. Of course, a new list could be started by someone else. 2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit. This involves the very difficult task of finding someone who's interested, and making a good choice. This is the least appealing of the three, honestly, because of the possibility of getting things wrong. 3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use" to more general discussion about anything CSS-related. That would include theoretical musings, discussion of what CSS should or shouldn't be, where it should go in the future, the general theory of CSS, and so on. I'm less inclined to go this route, as there are other places to grapple with the deeper issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention blogs and social media). At this point, perhaps due to pride and ego but perhaps simply due to feeling that the time has come, I'm leaning toward option 1. January 24, 2016, will be the 14th anniversary of the list. That leaves a month to either settle on a different course of action, or else to plan a shutdown. If anyone has strong feelings that it should be one of the other two options, or a fourth option I didn't list, feel free to let me know off-list. I may not be able to respond to every message, but I will read them all. I expect to make a final decision on or before January 10, 2016. Whatever I decide, I'll announce it here. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Header disappearing in Mobile view
What part of the header is missing? Hamburger menu could use some bottom padding to get it off the line. Nice looking site Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Yazmin Media Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:16 AM To: css discuss Subject: [css-d] Header disappearing in Mobile view I'm having an issue with a site. http://wesco.dreamhosters.com/dev/ I've bene using the iPhone 6 emulation on Chrome Dev Tools to check the site. It looks great there and on other mobile devices. However, when I use http://mobiletest.me/ tool to check the site in iPhone 6, the Responsive version shows fine, while the header is missing in Mobile version. (This tool is free to use and quick to signup for, so no need to pay to view what I'm talking about.) This wouldn't be an issue, but the mobile version was triggered on my client's phone one time and now I'm curious what is the difference? Why would it trigger? How do I get the header to show at all times? My client is past it, but it's still bugging me and I'd like to know what's going on. Any insight would be grand. Thanks! -- Yazmin Wickham http://www.yazminmedia.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Responsive with absolute positioning?
Little off topic, but the auto play on the video is a deal killer for me ... Another strange action, the page seems to reload when resized? This causes the video to restart too . Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of J.C. Berry Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:57 PM To: CSS-D Subject: [css-d] Responsive with absolute positioning? Hello all, I have this page http://go.xifin.com/connectivity.html and we are trying to make it responsive. Marketo has an editor that absolutely positions everything and every item is only a child of body. You can see that I have some of it working, but things like the vertical placement - top - just don't work consistently at various widths. Would I use some kind percentages? Something else? Also, the video sizing and the background TV is tough. Thanks guys! -- J.C. Berry, M.A. UI Developer 619.306.1712(m) jcharlesbe...@gmail.com http://www.mindarc.com This E-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This information is confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] I dont want to receive anymore the ..... Re: making a site responsive - first step: making it all fluid
Go here: http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d From: m.hofstet...@laposte.net [mailto:m.hofstet...@laposte.net] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:04 AM To: Greg Gamble Cc: Erik Visser; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: I dont want to receive anymore the [css-d] . Re: [css-d] making a site responsive - first step: making it all fluid I dont want to receive your [css-d] . I have ask how stop it ! I have no PSW to go out the list ! help ! ololamater De: Greg Gamble ggam...@sbctc.edumailto:ggam...@sbctc.edu À: Erik Visser e...@erikvisser.netmailto:e...@erikvisser.net, css-d@lists.css-discuss.orgmailto:css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Envoyé: Jeudi 21 Mai 2015 18:09:13 Objet: Re: [css-d] making a site responsive - first step: making it all fluid Nokia Lumia 928 with Windows 8.1 https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=8CC6289D78781182!37270authkey=!AAijgwhoBRaWByIv=3ithint=photo%2cpng Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.orgmailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Erik Visser Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:32 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.orgmailto:css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] making a site responsive - first step: making it all fluid Hi all, Thanks so for help and tips on making a site responsive. This is the site i have to make a responsive version for: http://www.utrechtsyogacentrum.nl Reading all information provided i thought making the existing site completely fluid would be a good first step. This is the result so far: http://beta.utrechtsyogacentrum.nl How does this look on your different systems? Any comments are welcome. Thanks, Erik __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] making a site responsive - first step: making it all fluid
Nokia Lumia 928 with Windows 8.1 https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=8CC6289D78781182!37270authkey=!AAijgwhoBRaWByIv=3ithint=photo%2cpng Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Erik Visser Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:32 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] making a site responsive - first step: making it all fluid Hi all, Thanks so for help and tips on making a site responsive. This is the site i have to make a responsive version for: http://www.utrechtsyogacentrum.nl Reading all information provided i thought making the existing site completely fluid would be a good first step. This is the result so far: http://beta.utrechtsyogacentrum.nl How does this look on your different systems? Any comments are welcome. Thanks, Erik __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Using Modernizr html classes
Are these browsers running on a touch-capable device? I thought 8.1 could auto detect if it's on one and act accordingly. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 12:58 PM To: CSS Discussion Group Subject: [css-d] Using Modernizr html classes List, This may be borderline off-topic, but I'm a little desperate. I am using Modernizr and it's html classes 'touch' and 'no-touch' in my CSS to add/hide functionality via such as a fixed menu bar on desktop and a relative menu bar on mobile, among other things. The issue I am having is that in Chrome 40.X and FF 35.0.1 in Win 8.1, I am getting a false 'touch' class (as opposed to 'no-touch') on a desktop setup. Googling hasn't been helpful yet and am wondering if anyone has over come this issue or has an idea. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Tom Livingston | Senior Front-End Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com #663399 __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] child width exceeding parents' ?!
Looks like the H4 header is styled, not the container, which is getting a width of 998px. 980px width + 16px from padding + 2px from border? Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of John Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 2:46 PM To: CSS-Discuss Subject: [css-d] child width exceeding parents' ?! at this page the bar that says new clothes at doubletake is set to max-width:980px and width: 100%, yet it exceeds the width of it's parent which is 980 how can this be? Thanks for clues! John http://coffeeonmars.com/W200/test/DTake_Index.html __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Bootstrap CSS...
You might want to add the menu collapse classes, and relevant media queries. They make things easier to use in a tablet or phone viewing. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Beaudoin Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:40 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] Bootstrap CSS... Hi all, It's been awhile since I've been doing front end work, but I'm getting back into it and learning Bootstrap in the process. I am putting together a sample UI and have come across some issues that I'm hoping I can get some assistance with. I'm sure it's a combination of rust and Bootstrap, but I've hit a wall and I'm not seeing the solutions. Frustrating. The sample page is located at: http://192.185.4.142/~badoyn/report_test/ Questions are: - In the left sidebar (Choose a Report) I would like the hover to extend the complete width of the sidebar and midway up/down between the items. I used display:block but I can't seem to get it fine tuned. - Footer: not sure why the color is not extending throughout the entire width of the footer. - The Reports Parameters box. Is there a way when this box is short (as shown now) the My Reports box beneath can tuck up beneath? Thanks all for the help. It's been awhile and glad to be back. Michael __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Will the unsemantic HTML elements B and I be soon phased out?
Something worth reading: http://html5doctor.com/i-b-em-strong-element/ i — was italic, now for text in an “alternate voice”, such as transliterated foreign words, technical terms, and typographically italicized text (W3C:Markup, WHATWG) b — was bold, now for “stylistically offset” text, such as keywords and typographically emboldened text (W3C:Markup, WHATWG) em — was emphasis, now for stress emphasis, i.e., something you’d pronounce differently (W3C:Markup, WHATWG) strong — was for stronger emphasis, now for strong importance, basically the same thing (stronger emphasis or importance is now indicated by nesting) (W3C:Markup, WHATWG) Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Philip Taylor Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:02 PM To: Robert A. Rosenberg Cc: CSS-Discuss Discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] Will the unsemantic HTML elements B and I be soon phased out? Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: The use of em and strong in lieu of i and b is aimed NOT at the visual presentation (ignoring screwing with the em-i and strong-b mappings via CSS) but at AUDIO (ie: Screen Reader) presentation. I would respectfully disagree. Whereas b and i were targetted specifically at visual rendering (since they denote bold and italic, which are not inherently meaningful for other media), em and strong are targetted at /all/ forms of rendering, since emphasised and strongly emphasised are media-neutral. They do, of course, work well with audio renderers but equally well with visual renderers. This is, I believe, an important point, because if it is not stressed, those writing for purely visual media may still perceive no need to use em and strong; it would have the unfortunate effect of relegating them to second-class citizens in the markup world, whereas in fact it is i and b (and their ilk) that need to be relegated, then deprecated, and finally forgotten. Of course, the text-to-speech mapping could in theory treat i the same way as it treats em, Yes, it /could/; but it would be guessing in the dark. There is no way to know whether an author who wrote iFelix domesticusi or iτέλος/i intended them to be emphasised or not from the markup alone. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Using :focus +
Nice ... helps to know what it's called when searching :-) Thanks ... Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Micky Hulse Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:00 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Using :focus + That is cool. Have you read much about adjacent sibling selector? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Adjacent_sibling_selectors http://meyerweb.com/eric/articles/webrev/27a.html -- git.io/micky __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order
Pages should have headers in order, with one H1 on top. Under the H1 you can have multiple H2 - H6's, but they should be nested correctly. Good: H1 H2 H2 H3 H4 H3 H4 H2 H3 H4 Bad: H2 H1 H4 H1 H4 H3 H2 There is an accessibility aspect to this too. If the text is visually not what you want, then change it for that instance. Header tags shouldn't be used for styling. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:00 PM To: CSS Discussion Group Subject: [css-d] Visual styling vs. source order List, Hopefully this is related to CSS enough for this list... Visually, the layout I'm looking at has a smaller line of copy, I'd call it a subhead, above a larger line of copy, what I would consider the headline. Is it wrong to have an H2 before an h1, which would lend itself to the visual look as well as the importance of the lines of copy, or should they be in a h1 then h2 source order and somehow arrange them with css to match the layout. And if the latter is more correct, what's the best way to just swap their visual order? The layout is just the two lines, centered horizontally, below a nav bar. I guess this is as much a semantics question as much of a CSS question. TIA -- Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Using :focus +
I ran across some CSS that I though was pretty cool, but can't seem to find much information on its usage. What do you think? Some simple code to show first: !DOCTYPE html head meta charset=UTF-8 / meta name=viewport content=width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0 titleTest Page/title style type=text/css input { width:200px; } .help { display:none; font-size:90%; } input:focus + .help { display:inline-block; } /style /head body label for=nameName (required):/label input type=text id=name name=name value= aria-describedby=name-format required span id=name-format class=helpFormat: Firstname, Lastname/span /body /html Clicking in the input field changes the class .help, although the input field has no class attached to it. Are there any other attributes that have this capability? Greg __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] CSS Progress Bar Help
Reset the indentation on the li class=progtrckr-current that sits within the ol data-progtrckr-steps=4 class=progtrckr progbox tag Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of SSC_perl Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:14 PM To: CSS-D Discuss Subject: [css-d] CSS Progress Bar Help Hello, I'm new to CSS here, so forgive me if this is a basic question. I just added a CSS progress bar to our open source shopping cart, SurfShopPRO. It looks nicer than the graphics we were using before, but it could be better. One of the things I need help with is that the progress bar is not centered left to right inside the border. Can someone see what's wrong? http://www.surfshopcart.com/cgi-bin/demos/2/shop.cgi To see the progress bar, just place a test order and check out. Choose I will mail my payment to go all the way to the receipt page without typing a credit card number. Thanks, Frank Setting up shop has never been easier! http://www.surfshopcart.com/pro.php __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Massive mouse over dropdowns--possible with CSS?
Looks to be a mega-menu http://www.sitepoint.com/mega-drop-down-menus/ Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:31 AM To: CSS-D Subject: [css-d] Massive mouse over dropdowns--possible with CSS? The following West Marine website has large complex dropdown navigation menus that change as mouse-over changes on a horizontal row of banner links. West Marine does this with javascript. Is the same thing possible with CSS? Examples? I'm familiar with vertical list-like CSS dropdowns (or popout horizontally) menus. But these are more like multi-column dropdowns. I'm not even sure I like this, design wise. But I have a customer who wants it. Is requesting it. So I wonder about how best to do it. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategories1_11151_10001_-1 -- /* Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh --oO0 */ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Massive mouse over dropdowns--possible with CSS?
How so? It's almost like a fat dropdown. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Melroch Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:43 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Massive mouse over dropdowns--possible with CSS? 2013-11-15 20:01, Greg Gamble skrev: Looks to be a mega-menu http://www.sitepoint.com/mega-drop-down-menus/ The latest fad which doesn't work for the motor-impaired? Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:31 AM To: CSS-D Subject: [css-d] Massive mouse over dropdowns--possible with CSS? The following West Marine website has large complex dropdown navigation menus that change as mouse-over changes on a horizontal row of banner links. West Marine does this with javascript. Is the same thing possible with CSS? Examples? I'm familiar with vertical list-like CSS dropdowns (or popout horizontally) menus. But these are more like multi-column dropdowns. I'm not even sure I like this, design wise. But I have a customer who wants it. Is requesting it. So I wonder about how best to do it. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategories1_111 51_10001_-1 -- /* Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh --oO0 */ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] The Simpsons in CSS
http://pattle.github.io/simpsons-in-css/ is 404? -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of COM Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:08 AM To: CSS-Discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] The Simpsons in CSS ..it also just dawned on me that illustration converted to code can be dynamically changed... some dizzying implications to that, eh? John __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Two classes, two conflicting rules, which wins ?
OK, I'll bite :-) What is origin, weight, and specificity? I hear the terms and I think I get it ... but, to hear it from the Master would be great. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 6:18 AM To: CSS-D Subject: Re: [css-d] Two classes, two conflicting rules, which wins ? On 1 Oct 2013, at 16:50, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: So you are saying that in a 'class=c2 c1' case, it scans the CSS defs, sees .c1 and applies it, keeps going and sees .c2 which overrides the c1 width? IOW: The order that you list the class in the HTML is ignored and only the order that the classes are defined in the CSS defs counts. That's correct. (Assuming the selectors have the same origin, weight, AND specificity, that is; in that case, then the order the rules are listed in the CSS matters. If two selectors don't have the same origin, weight, OR specificity, then the order they're listed in the CSS is irrelevant.) -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Two classes, two conflicting rules, which wins ?
Wouldn't the first div width = 30em, and the second div width = 20em? DIV id=i1 class=c1 c2.../DIV C2 overrides C1 DIV id=i2 class=c2 c1.../DIV C1 overrides C2 Greg Gamble SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris Rockwell Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:46 AM To: Philip Taylor Cc: CSS-D Subject: Re: [css-d] Two classes, two conflicting rules, which wins ? How you assign them in the class attribute has no bearing. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Chris Rockwell ch...@chrisrockwell.comwrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/cascade.html#cascading-order In your example, width is 30em; On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote: Consider : .c1 {width: 20em} .c2 {width: 30em} DIV id=i1 class=c1 c2.../DIV DIV id=i2 class=c2 c1.../DIV What widths do i1 and i2 have, and why ? Answers by reference to the relevant W3C specification(s), please, not by experiment or guesswork ! Philip Taylor _ _ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- Chris Rockwell -- Chris Rockwell __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Two classes, two conflicting rules, which wins ?
Makes sense when I see it in action ... thanks. !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; lang=en head title CSS Cascade /title style body { color: blue; } .c2 {background-color: green;} .c1 {background-color: yellow;} /style /head body div id=i1 class=c1 c2C1 then C2/div div id=i2 class=c2 c1C2 then C1/div /body /html Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris Rockwell Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:16 PM To: Robert A. Rosenberg Cc: CSS-D; Philip Taylor Subject: Re: [css-d] Two classes, two conflicting rules, which wins ? So you are saying that in a 'class=c2 c1' case, it scans the CSS defs, sees .c1 and applies it, keeps going and sees .c2 which overrides the c1 width? That's how I would explain it, but I'm not certain how the browsers actually compile it. I would **guess** that it is compiled and only the correct styles are applied, so there isn't actual overriding, or re-painting; but that's just a guess. IOW: The order that you list the class in the HTML is ignored and only the order that the classes are defined in the CSS defs counts. Yes, as long as specificity isn't a factor (and keep in mind the order in which you include your stylesheets). The StackOverflow link that was included in this thread showed cases where the order in the attribute would make a difference (using advanced selectors), but at a quick glance that seemed like an *extreme* edge case that I couldn't imagine ever using in practice. All that being said, for this situation, I think I would probably try to find a way to avoid doing what this discussion is centered around. I've been really trying to study up on oocss ( https://github.com/stubbornella/oocss/wiki) and smaccs (http://smacss.com/) and I plan on implementing these concepts in the refactor I'm getting ready to start. So, off the top of my head, something like this: /* layout stuff */ .boxNarrow { width: 5em; } .boxWide { width: 10em; } /* prettify */ .boxSkin { border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 1px 1px 5px #00; } div class=boxSkin boxNarrow.../div div class=boxSkin boxWide.../div -- Chris Rockwell __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Implementing Responsive Design
Mobile-First is a good idea, but the realities are that it’s a Desktop-First world. If you're doing any serious web browsing on a phone its capable of Mq's. And unless you put an extraordinary amount of work into it, the page performance is not much different than a desktop anyway. http://sixrevisions.com/mobile/responsive-web-design-not-the-future/ Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:25 AM To: Tim Arnold Cc: CSS Discuss; Mike O'Toole Subject: Re: [css-d] Implementing Responsive Design FWIW, what I do is repeat my styles without MQ's inside a conditional comment. Lo-fi, I know, but if you don't want to load a polyfil, this is another option. I use sass imports to do this in a neat way. Email me if you want any more info. — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Tim Arnold tim.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Mike O'Toole m...@risingwoods.org wrote: FYI only recently has the 'smart phone' (all MQ capable) sales passed the 'feature phone' in sales percentage. Many present day low end 'feature phones' and most older (sold in 2009-2012) 'feature phones' lack the MQ support. As of mid 2013 many high end 'feature phones' are MQ capable. FWIW they are much more powerful than the 'smart phones' of 2011 and before. Keep in mind, if doing a mobile first approach, that IE8 (not exactly an ancient browser) does not support media queries at all without a polyfill. Tim -- tim.arn...@gmail.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] navigate site
David, As you can see from below, I'm a big advocate of accessibility when designing web pages. It's easy to do and carries over to some good best practices. Please take that into consideration when reading my comments, that go beyond what you requested ... :-) Menu not working on WP8 ( Nokia Lumia 928 ) with IE10 Browser or with UC Browser. If you do a long press it will show, but is not sustained and ends up calling the save image context menu. Email, phone number and address links work correctly. Document outline is incorrect http://accessibility.psu.edu/headingshtml Alt tags are empty http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/altAttribute Navigation not viewable till you reach the bottom of the page. I would use media queries like you had in the previous rendition. Much better experience IMO. http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/C27.html Nice looking site but if any of your viewers are using any Assistive Technology (AT), as in a screen reader, they're going to have a hard time navigating the site. Put the Navigation on top. Add a skip link. Set your headings correctly, starting with a single H1. This not only helps AT users, but improves Search Engine ranking Looking forward to your next update. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:13 PM To: CSS Discuss Subject: [css-d] navigate site Seeking constructive comments and suggestions on the method used to navigate a responsive [desktop, tablet, and mobile] site. html http://ccstudi.com/russ/ css http://ccstudi.com/russ/r/r.css Best, David Laakso -- Chelsea Creek Studio http://ccstudi.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist
I believe content is king and should precede navigation in the html. ... unless you're using a screen reader, then you'll need to go to the bottom of the page to access the navigation. This is why they have skip links. As for the long words not wrapping, why not use: word-wrap: break-word; Greg -Original Message- From: David Laakso [mailto:laakso.davi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:59 PM To: CSS Discuss Cc: Greg Gamble Subject: Re: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Greg Gamble ggam...@sbctc.edu wrote: Curious on why you placed the Navigation at the bottom of the page? I believe content is king and should precede navigation in the html. Also, why are you using all of the soft hyphens ... #x00ad; ? Not all of them are necessary but primarily because font-scaling in mobile hand-sets causes long words to break the outermost containing block [producing horizontal page wiggle ]. In plain English one has to scroll both horizontally and vertically to read the text. And using -moz-hyphens:auto;-ms-hyphens:auto;-o;webkit-hyphens:auto;hyphens:auto; is not even close to being ready for prime-time. Best, David Laakso __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist
I wouldn't say its horrible, but you are correct in where the breaks happen, if they happen. It's usually not an issue if your container is sized to fit the text. And what is Western text embedded inside CJK text? Greg -Original Message- From: Philippe Wittenbergh [mailto:e...@l-c-n.com] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:02 AM To: Greg Gamble Cc: CSS Discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist Le 11 juil. 2013 à 22:54, Greg Gamble ggam...@sbctc.edu a écrit : As for the long words not wrapping, why not use: word-wrap: break-word; That is a horrible solution in general for 'western' text as it breaks words at any arbitrary point, without respect for grammar and word-breaking rules; it might work in very controlled environments, eventually. Or for 'western' text strings embedded inside CJK text. http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text/#word-break Philippe -- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Firefox the new pixel density ??
Are these issue from setting the zoom with text-only option being checked? I see site layout being busted when zoom is set to text-only, but not when its unchecked. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Rob Crowther Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:27 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Firefox the new pixel density ?? On 09/07/2013 02:20, Janet Lynn Ford wrote: 1. Is there a way to target this with media queries (I read that now one can target dpi, but I am curious if any one is doing so, what the problems and/or negative effects of doing so will be. I think this is part of the response to the issue that media queries for physical widths didn't really mean much, because all browsers previously pretended that the display was always 96DPI. This made it difficult/impossible for media queries to distinguish between a 1280x720px 20 monitor and a 1280x720px 4.5 mobile phone. For some background: http://css-tricks.com/high-dpi-monitors-resolution-independance-the-web-and-you/ http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2010/04/a_pixel_is_not.html 2. Does this seem strange to others? I feel like I am back in 1996 and facing the IE/Netscape browser wars once again. There is a quite a lot of discussion about this on the Mozilla bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844604 3. Is this just the wave of the future and will all browsers be doing this as well? The relevant Chromium defect is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844604 From reading through the Mozilla and Chromium defects it seems that IE10 has already implemented a similar behaviour to Firefox. Rob __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist
No skip links Heading tags are not in order. You start with an H2, go to an H1, then to an H5 and an H6. Alt tags for images are empty. Do the images have meaning, or are they used for filler? Same image in multiple locations on the same page. Hovering over a link shows a line above the link text, which can be confusing. Looks ok on a Nokia Lumia 928 w/WP8 using IE10 and UC Browser. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:53 AM To: CSS Discuss Subject: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist Constructive comments and suggestions on this responsive layout appreciated. http://ccstudi.com/rum/ css http://ccstudi.com/rum/r/r.css Best, David Laakso -- Chelsea Creek Studio http://ccstudi.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist
Curious on why you placed the Navigation at the bottom of the page? Also, why are you using all of the soft hyphens ... #x00ad; ? Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 2:14 PM To: CSS Discuss Cc: Karl DeSaulniers Subject: Re: [css-d] site review: hydrogeologist On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Take a look at it on a phone browser. I have an iPhone 5 using safari. View portrait first then rotate to landscape. The top nav (for me) is overlapping the header text. Best, Karl http://ccstudi.com/rum/ css http://ccstudi.com/rum/r/r.css Karl, overlap not seen [behaves as intended] when rotating from portrait to landscape in this particular iPhone 5 simulator http://iphone5simulator.com/ . However, what one gets on a simulator dose not always match what one sees on an actual device. Anyone else see the problem Karl wrote about on iPhone 5 and/or have a fix for same? Note that the nav is the last item in the html source and is absolute positioned in the css to the top of the page; consequently, there may in fact be some overlap in some small screen devices. Best, David Laakso -- Chelsea Creek Studio http://ccstudi.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] background image AND background color?
Sorry Tom L. Sent this to you instead of the list. Anyway, you need an overlay div if you're trying to simulate layers. Makes for css that is easier to read, in my opinion. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:36 AM To: COM Cc: CSS-Discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] background image AND background color? You won't get PhotoShop multiply layer effects exactly, but using a 24bit png for your image with areas of alpha transparency to allow the bg color to come through is as close as u can get I believe. HTH — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM, COM j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote: On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:37 AM, David Laakso laakso.davi...@gmail.com wrote: For those among us who dwell in the visual world, one picture is worth a thousand words... a click able link to your coded page would help. A link to the page in question is here: http://coffeeonmars.com/test/flextest/flextest.html the part I'm talking about is at top, where it says heading one and heading two; behind them in the header is a jpg of what looks like some light texture. in the css is also a background color for that element: a red at 0.4 alpha. my goal is to have the texture image's color influenced by that background color, IOW, by varying the opacity of the color, the image would have more or less of a reddish cast to it. Thank you! John __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] How best to revise my style sheet? Reverse it?
Here's a nice little app to pull out all the available classes and id's on the page ... for a fresh start. http://primercss.com/index.php Greg Gamble SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Keith Purtell Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 9:08 PM To: css discuss Subject: [css-d] How best to revise my style sheet? Reverse it? I recently looked at the style sheet for my long-neglected hobby site. It's a train wreck. I started thinking about the best way to rebuild it from scratch. Remembered some comments I may have heard here about building first for mobile devices, then adding any CSS necessary for computers/laptops. Is that good practice? Didn't find any discussion of this via Google. Tips? -Keith __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] menu floating away from me
What style sheet is setting the LI class ( example class name hygiene)? Looks to me like a z-index issue. Greg Gamble SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Dan McCullough Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:55 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] menu floating away from me I have a test site where the top nav should be lining up however it has shifted off an to the right and I have looked at the code several times and now my eyes are crossed and I am pulling whats left of my hair out. Can someone take a look and tell me what I cannot see .. its normally something simple .. oh and yes the menu had been working until I made the content dynamic vs static. http://bit.ly/10Hm4xx THanks __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Bootstrap for big projects
I like it, and the span# tags , combined with the Row tag add a lot of flexibility in what you can do. As for size ... the user is only seeing one page at time, so it's relative. JMO Greg Gamble SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of trevor donahue Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:10 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] Bootstrap for big projects Hi list, quick question: Would you consider bootstrap for a big project? and for little ones? Personally I like the idea of not having to care about creating new css rules, instead just applying the already existent ones. I don't feel very comfortable using rules like span4, mainly I tend to think it's too much of a burden to rely it on html. What do you guys think? -- Thanks, Donahue Trevor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] z-index question
Curious ... what Browser are you looking with to get that image. Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:06 PM To: CSS-Discuss Cc: Debbie Campbell Subject: Re: [css-d] z-index question On Wed, 27 Mar 2013, Debbie Campbell wrote: In this site, in the footer, the links in the two boxes are clickable in all the browsers checked so far except Firefox: http://www.redkitecreative.com/dev/prairie/about-us/ I've tried a few different ways of stacking with no better results for FF, can someone help please? I see a lot of problems with the page: http://b.cfaj.ca/redkitcreative.jpg. Perhaps when those are fixed, the other problem will also be solved. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, http://cfajohnson.com/ Author: Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] z-index question
Take the z-index: -1 out of footer-container Greg Gamble SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Campbell Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:19 PM To: CSS-Discuss Subject: [css-d] z-index question In this site, in the footer, the links in the two boxes are clickable in all the browsers checked so far except Firefox: http://www.redkitecreative.com/dev/prairie/about-us/ I've tried a few different ways of stacking with no better results for FF, can someone help please? -- Debbie Campbell __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Page Resizing Tool
Little tool we use that lets you see a page in different sizes very quickly. Seems to be fairly accurate on the rendering too. http://lab.maltewassermann.com/viewport-resizer/ Greg -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:14 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] ADMIN: link ARGH. The customary kicking has been carried out, but as usual, it feels a bit like burning down the barn after the horse has already been shipped off to the glue factory. Or words to that effect. It comes as no real comfort that I've recently seen the same thing happen on other mailing lists, even ones with much more aggressive filtering (as in, stuff in addition to what you can do in MailMan) in place. It appears to be something we're going to have to live with, unless I start adding in really Draconian measures like requiring any mail from a yahoo.com account to be held for approval. No, I'm not going to do that. But I've been tempted. Anyway, sorry once more for the noise. Carry on. -- Eric A. Meyer (http://meyerweb.com/eric/), List Chaperone CSS is much too interesting and elegant to be not taken seriously. -- Martina Kosloff (http://mako4css.com/) __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress
You should check out Twitter Bootstrap: http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ Greg Gamble SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services p - 360-704-4376 think before printing -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Koen van der Drift Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:14 AM To: Tom Livingston Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org; Hakan Kirkan Subject: Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress No, what I mean does not have that type of menu. The 'hongkiat' tutorial that Hakan posted is more what I had in mind. - Koen. On Jan 24, 2013, at 12:04, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: This? http://tinynav.viljamis.com/ On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Koen van der Drift koenvanderdr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the pointers. I should have mentioned it is not for a WP page :-) - Koen. On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:35, Hakan Kirkan ad...@jump2top.com wrote: Here is a tutorial http://speckyboy.com/2012/08/29/10-responsive-navigation-solutions-and-tutorials/ and a plug in for WP http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/responsive-select-menu/ Hakan KIRKAN IT Manager http://miamirealestateinc.com Miami/ FL On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Koen van der Drift koenvanderdr...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to transfer a navigation list into a menu that many Wordpress pages have on a small screen. Not sure where to start, though, any suggestions? Thanks, - Koen. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] responsive not being responsive with images
For what it's worth, the main menus sub-menus are not usable on an HTC 8x Windows Phone. Taping or a short press causes a flash then it collapses, Long press works, but the phones context menu overrides it so again it's not accessible. I suggest a tap to open and a tap to close. Greg Gamble SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services p - 360-704-4376 think before printing -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Rob Emenecker Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:59 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] responsive not being responsive with images In that case, you would need to use table-layout: fixed. For grins and giggles I added this to the table style declaration of the mobile.css file. It fixed the problem! Thank you all for your input on helping to resolve this - from the validation errors that Philip pointed out through to this little gem above from Al, and everyone in between. It has been resolved. Rob Emenecker @ Hairy Dog Digital www.hairydogdigital.com Please note: Return e-mail messages are only accepted from discussion groups that this e-mail address subscribes to. All other messages are automatically deleted. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/