Re: [css-d] table in a liquid layout

2008-06-28 Thread Suzie Henderson
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:16 AM, fede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone, I have a problem with a table in a liquid layout.
> The layout is made by a left column (200px) and a right liquid colum. Body
> has a margin (left-right 5%) to ensure the liquidity.
> Inside the right column I have a div (width auto) containing a table. When
> the table is rich of data and so it grows in width, It breaks the layout. So
> it'is no more contained in the box and the left part of the table has no
> background color (of table containing div).
>
> Is it possible that table enlarges the right-column?
>
> Here is the online code (incorporated css)
> http://www.fedegrafia.com/forum/tabella_css.htm


Fedegrafo,

I have an identical problem not with a table but with an oversize image.

My problem:
I have one known issue. There's probably a term for it but I don't
know it, so here's a .jpg of the intermittent behavior.
http://www.txfannin.org/problempage.jpg
Once I expand the window to full width, the background corrects itself
and stays corrected.

My page:
[Biographical Souvenir Page]  (where the intermittent problem shows up
on the .jpg above)
http://www.txfannin.org/book/souvenir/s325.html


Someone sent me this code this morning. I HAVE NOT TRIED IT YET, but
he says it works on my page. I will be gone to a meeting for 4 hours
or soso I can't test on my page until later today.

 His reply:
>
> I have played around with your page in FF and the fix is.
>
> body {float:left;}
>
> and for the contents change the padding from a percentage to pixels.
>
> #content {padding:3%;}
>
> to
>
> #content {padding:3px;}



Hope this helps you...and ME too.
Off to my meeting

Suzie
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Re: [css-d] table in a liquid layout

2008-06-28 Thread Suzie Henderson
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Suzie Henderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:16 AM, fede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone, I have a problem with a table in a liquid layout.
>> The layout is made by a left column (200px) and a right liquid colum. Body
>> has a margin (left-right 5%) to ensure the liquidity.
>> Inside the right column I have a div (width auto) containing a table. When
>> the table is rich of data and so it grows in width, It breaks the layout. So
>> it'is no more contained in the box and the left part of the table has no
>> background color (of table containing div).
>>
>> Is it possible that table enlarges the right-column?
>>
>> Here is the online code (incorporated css)
>> http://www.fedegrafia.com/forum/tabella_css.htm
>
>
> Fedegrafo,
>
> I have an identical problem not with a table but with an oversize image.
>
> My problem:
> I have one known issue. There's probably a term for it but I don't
> know it, so here's a .jpg of the intermittent behavior.
> http://www.txfannin.org/problempage.jpg
> Once I expand the window to full width, the background corrects itself
> and stays corrected.
>
> My page:
> [Biographical Souvenir Page]  (where the intermittent problem shows up
> on the .jpg above)
> http://www.txfannin.org/book/souvenir/s325.html
>
>
> Someone sent me this code this morning. I HAVE NOT TRIED IT YET, but
> he says it works on my page. I will be gone to a meeting for 4 hours
> or soso I can't test on my page until later today.
>
>  His reply:
>>
>> I have played around with your page in FF and the fix is.
>>
>> body {float:left;}
>>
>> and for the contents change the padding from a percentage to pixels.
>>
>> #content {padding:3%;}
>>
>> to
>>
>> #content {padding:3px;}

Success!

I stole a copy of Fedegrafo's code and added
body {float:left;}
and it was MAGIC!
Everything back in order.  I did not mess with the padding but the
float:left took care of getting the background to stay behind the
table. [You can start looking forward to Monday Fedegrafo!]

On my problem, I added:
body {float:left;}
The background problem disappeared but the padding did need adjustment
as predicted both in the main content section and in the left sidebar.
A quick fix by visually tweaking pixels and I was back in business.

Fedegrafo will have to post his fixed image on Monday for all of you
to admire. Mine will be up sometime later today. I'll leave the .jpg
image of the pre-fixed page up for late comers to see the problem.
http://www.txfannin.org/problempage.jpg
http://www.txfannin.org/book/souvenir/s325.html

Suzie
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[css-d] faux column has disappeared entirely

2008-07-07 Thread Suzie Henderson
I thought I finally had all the kinks worked out but now my faux column down
the left side has decided not to display at all in IE 5.5 and IE 7. It seems
to do fine in IE6.

I thought it was all working well a couple of days ago. I could be wrong.
(So many site checks...so little life.) The only thing I have done as a
major change to all pages since then was to add the 16x16 icon to the tabs.

If you notice anything else wrong I need to know about, please let me know.
This my first attempt at web design, so be nice.
I know my CSS has some wasted code and redundancy but it works and I'm
scared to muck with it.
Lots of broken links. Lots of pages still local waiting to be uploaded
pending the reappearance of the left column.

Site and CSS both validate.

Thanks in advance
Suzie

http://www.txfannin.org/
http://www.txfannin.org/styles1.css
There's a second style sheet but it doesn't have a left column so you
probably don't care.
http://www.txfannin.org/scrapbooks.css
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Re: [css-d] faux column has disappeared entirely

2008-07-07 Thread Suzie Henderson
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Suzie Henderson wrote:
> > I thought I finally had all the kinks worked out but now my faux column
> down the left side has decided not to display at all in IE 5.5 and IE 7.
>
> Hi Suzie,
>
>
> Good news: I can't help you because this site displays identically on
> IE5.5, IE6, IE7 and Firefox on my system.
>
> Interestingly, I don't see any 16x16 icons anywhere as you noted in your
> email.
>
> Hope that helps. Sorry I can't replicate your problem.
> --Bill
>
>
Thanks, Bill That IS good news that you are seeing the site correctly in all
browsers. I'm working on a Mac and was resorting to Netrenderer for a quick
IE site check. I thought it might be a Netrenderer problem but forgot to
mention it. I have access to a network of PC's twice a week and normally
don't rely on Netrenderer.

The tiny icons are the least of my worries. A nice touch but not critical to
getting the rest of the 2000 pages up! Thanks for your prompt reply.

Suzie
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Re: [css-d] faux column has disappeared entirely

2008-07-07 Thread Suzie Henderson
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:30 PM, David Laakso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Suzie Henderson wrote:
>
>> If you notice anything else wrong I need to know about, please let me
>> know.
>>
>> Suzie
>>
>> http://www.txfannin.org/
>>
>>
>>
>
> Em font-scaling bug in the Es.
> When setting fonts in em for IE a base in percent is needed on the body or
> html, or the fonts will go goofy when scaled.
> The correction for your site is to add this declaration at the top of the
> style sheet:
> html {font-size:100%;}
> As ever,
> Ozzie
>
> --
> http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
>
> Done! Added to both sheets and uploaded. Thanks
Harriet
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[css-d] Search box Woes

2008-07-29 Thread Suzie Henderson
I admit to knowing nothing about creating forms, so I blatantly "stole" the
coding for a Google search box and played with it until I got it to look
like I wanted it.  Although each browser handles it a little differently, I
can live with most of it.

Even though have added a  "text decoration: none"
to the Google image, it still shows a box around the Google logo pretty
consistently cross browser.

Safari 3.1.1 Mac seems to do the best job of displaying what I want.
Even IE (all versions)  does better than Firefox MAC.
I'm not sure how Mozilla handles it on the PC.

Firefox MAC 2.0.0.16 is the worst! and my biggest concern.
The Text box needs to get back inside the left  column div.
The original box started out being about that long and I reduced the length
to fit the column.
Now it's extra short in Opera and way too long in Firefox.

Everything validates.

http://www.txfannin.org
http://www.txfannin.org/styles1.css

Any advice appreciated!
Thanks, Suzie
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[css-d] Clearing problem...only on Vista machines??

2008-12-07 Thread Suzie Henderson
Every one of my "cemetery pages" has a left column of maps and links. Then
the main content starts with a Headline and a large photo at the top.  I
recently discovered that the large photos are sometimes being pushed down to
be even with the bottom of the content of the left column.  I suspect
something needs to be cleared but I am unsure of what clearing needs to
happen (clear the photo? clear the left right on the left column?) and I
can't test to troubleshoot.

I think it is only happening on machines running Vista.  I have been unable
to replicate the problem except on newer pcs running IE7 but I THINK I also
had the problem with Firefox on one Vista machine. (I may be confused on
that one.) I work on a Mac and only occasionally have access to a Vista
machine. Netrenderer displays the pages fine on all versions of IE so they
must not be running Vista.

Pages that have text entered below the headline but above the photo don't
seem to have the display problem.

Direct links to some sample cemeteries:
http://www.txfannin.org/cemeteries/ceme-blanton/index.html
http://www.txfannin.org/cemeteries/ceme-cedarhill/index.html
http://www.txfannin.org/cemeteries/ceme-hudsonville/index.html

http://www.txfannin.org/styles1.css

Home page: http://www.txfannin.org
Main Cemetery Page: http://www.txfannin.org/cemeteries (with links to more
samples)

Thanks in advance,
Suzie
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Re: [css-d] Clearing problem...only on Vista machines??

2008-12-07 Thread Suzie Henderson
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Suzie Henderson wrote:
>
>> <http://www.txfannin.org/cemeteries>
>>
>
>  I recently discovered that the large photos are sometimes being pushed
>> down to be even with the bottom of the content of the left column.
>>
>
> When window-width shrinks below a certain width, the wide image drops
> below left column. The content area then continues to shrink as the
> window is narrowed further.
> Happens in all IE/win versions, regardless of OS - tested in IE6
> (win2K), IE7 (XP & Vista) and IE5.5 to IE8b2 (IETester on XP).
>
> Only "cure" seems to be to declare a 'min-width' on #content or body -
> value depends on image-size, which saves IE7 and above. Doesn't help on
> IE6 and lower though.
>
> regards
>Georg
> --
> http://www.gunlaug.no


Thanks for the heads up on that one BUT...

The first time I discovered the problem was on a 27inch monitor at full
window.  I design on a 15 inch screen to be sure not to go too wide with my
layout.

With the window filling the full width of the wide screen monitor, the
headline is at the top of the page and the photo is down even with the end
of the information in the left column. It's behaving just like something is
not cleared.

It happened on the Vista machine owned by the Wicked Step Mother (WSM). It
happened yesterday at the Library and it happens on a brand new machine just
purchased by a friend in the next county over.  None of these machines are
readily accessible to me to make a screen shot for you.

Here's one a faked to show you the alignment... it is consistently right at
the end of the left column content...

http://www.txfannin.org/screenshot.jpg

The only pages that display correctly are those that have text after the
headline but before the photo. Then it works fine. (I've considered typing
the word "hack" in a font matching the background color above every photo!
It would likely play hell with screen readers but would get my photos up
where they belong!)

Suzie
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Re: [css-d] Clearing problem...only on Vista machines??

2008-12-08 Thread Suzie Henderson
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Suzie Henderson wrote:
>
>  <http://www.txfannin.org/cemeteries>
>>>>
>>>
>  http://www.txfannin.org/screenshot.jpg
>>
>
> Can't reproduce that at my end, neither on or off line.
> A simpler and more friendly solution would be to add...
>
> #leftcol {margin-bottom: -1px;}
>
> ...which simply makes #leftcol take up no space - "removed float".
> regards
>Georg
>

Just got word from the next county over!  Worked like a charm!

Thanks, Georg
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[css-d] CSS for a Cemetery?

2007-09-10 Thread Suzie Henderson
I have recently inherited responsibility for maintaining an all volunteer
genealogy site managed by the same person for over 10 years. She did an
amazing job of collecting and posting genealogy information but taught
herself HTML as she went along. There are over 18000 items in ONE folder and
not one of them is a CSS.

I don't need to get "fancy" but I do want to clean up the code; base as much
as possible on CSS; and organize the site with a few sub-folders. I think I
can get the basic CSS and XHTML coding done before screaming for help with
the things that I find not working BUT...one thing that concerns me is the
cemetery transcription pages.

There are over 240 cemeteries transcribed on the site ranging from one grave
to over 5000 burials in one cemetery. Some are currently posted as tables
and others as plain text. The formatting is all over the map.  Many of them
have links to photos of the gravestones.

Here's a sample of one of the existing pages:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~txfannin/ceme-bigbee.html

The homepage is http://www.rootsweb.com/~txfannin/

I thought, at first, that I might just pre-format and paste the file as
 within a  but then I would not be able to add the hyperlinks to
individual lines within the .

I thought about adding the hyperlink to an image placed adjacent to the name
but if any lines wrapped it would throw off all the links.

I could make each burial an unordered list item  with a hyperlink???

I would LOVE to have a way to make the line read:

FRIENDLY, Fred 7 Jan 1856-   25 Nov 1934   "Beloved Father"
FRIENDLY, Freida 18 Feb 1872-   22 Dec 1947   "Beloved Mother"

...but I think that could only happen in a table.

I have yet to find another genealogy site which had a creative CSS solution.

I just hate to get started without some idea of what might be the best
solution. Is there a CSS solution? Any suggestions from those of you with
more experience?

Thanks.
Suzie in Texas
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[css-d] CSS for a Cemetery?

2007-09-10 Thread Suzie Henderson
When is a cemetery not a cemetery?
When it's a table.

Thanks to Rick Lecoat, Mark Finney, Fulko van Westrenen, and Chris Johnson
who all responded so quickly to my request for advice. [And thanks for the
pat on the back, Chris. I needed that today.]

I agree with Fulko that a database is probably be the best answer but I'm
pretty overwhelmed right now just dealing with xhtml and css. I've been
ignoring tables in html because I just KNEW there would be a better answer.
So much for what I know...

The thought of adding PHP and SQL and PERL to my already confused mind just
brought tears to the surface. The database will just have to wait until I've
written enough HTML and CSS to do that in my sleep. It might be quicker to
use PHP to dig out the information from the old pages, but not if I have to
figure out PHP first.

I'm off to study tables, unless somebody wants to trade some coding for some
genealogy research. (I'm really good at that!)

Thanks again to all of you.

Suzie
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[css-d] Safari 3 Beta for Mac and PC

2007-09-15 Thread Suzie Henderson
Mac OSX-Leopard will still not be released until October but Apple is
starting the hype. This includes offering the latest Beta version of Safari
for Mac and PC for free download in case anyone wants to play with it.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/safari.html

Just thought you might want to see if you have any new Safari Hacks to
write.
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